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9 April 2014

2012 in UFC events talk page[edit]

Hello Deryck, I see you deleted 2012 in UFC events, I am just wondering if the talk page should have been deleted, there was a lot of discussion there as to the merits of the article and attempts to build (and not build) consensus. There are quite a few archives for that page in particular, I think the talk page should probably be restored (unless there is nothing really on it), and perhaps the article title left as a redirect. Thoughts? --kelapstick(bainuu) 23:45, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Makes sense, thanks. --kelapstick(bainuu) 00:38, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

Hi, I was using the 2012 in UFC events and Future UFC Events in 2012 pages regularly, and there did not appear to be any sort of notice banner on the top of either page that they were under threat of deletion, or else I would have certainly weighed in. Not all of those events had sub articles either still in the wake of the mass-deletion effort earlier in the year. I really think it's unfair to the people who actually used those pages not to make the fact that those pages were under threat of deletion with a banner. The new page replacing it is comparatively worthless and has far less information. Beansy (talk) 03:54, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

I didn't realize the event pages for future announced UFC events had been restored. Deleting the omnibus articles makes a lot more sense now, so my bad. Beansy (talk) 20:33, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
Thank you for closing this :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 12:20, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
Hey, can you make the pages and unprotected please ? Or fix the redirect to their old event pages. Thanks a lot ! SiMntjMMA (talk) 15:12, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
I answered @ my Talk Page....SiMntjMMA (talk) 15:47, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

Past history of You didn't build that[edit]

Thanks for closing the AfD. I do have a question though. I see that the previous history of the redirect that was left from the article that was deleted and made into a redirect (unilaterally I might add) to the 2012 Obama campaign article has been deleted, per G6. I am wondering if that can be undeleted, and the history merged into the current history. I would like to give some WikiLove to that article creator, and cannot find a link to that editor. Thanks for the time it took to read this.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 01:27, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

Talk:You didn't build that#Infobox not approrpiate[edit]

You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:You didn't build that#Infobox not approrpiate. RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 23:06, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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For closing that monster You didn't build that AFD. Thank you. Go Phightins! (talk) 01:38, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

  • I not only second the above barnstar, but just quote you and your close in a current "slip-of-the-tongue negative spin campaign" AfD and used your thoughts to formulate my own.[1] Keep up the great work! -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 14:10, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

Bat Ayin closure[edit]

I am a bit concerned at your closing statement that If many editors from various backgrounds all prefer to use the "notability" argument to trump over the "not news" argument, then it is the latter guideline that needs changing. WP:NOTNEWS, a part of WP:NOT is Wikipedia policy, not a guideline. WP:N is a guideline. When a policy and guideline come into conflict, the policy trumps the guideline, see WP:POLCON. Do you think that the article in question failed WP:NOTNEWS? Then it should be deleted, no matter how many people say "it's notable". nableezy - 13:42, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

I understand that, however I think that if people attempt to address a policy violation by citing a guideline then that argument has to be considered invalid. I dont see anybody in the AFD addressing the issue with failing WP:NOT except by saying that some guideline allows for the article. I didnt vote in the AFD, mostly because it was destined to end with "no consensus", but I think that the closure improperly gave weight to arguments that are, in my view, invalidated by the policy argument offered in the nomination. nableezy - 15:42, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
I'm thinking of starting a discussion at the talk pages for WP:EVENT and WP:NOT because they are functionally completely useless. They have no teeth whatsoever. If articles are going to be kept on the basis that an event is notable if it kills a child, if it was committed by a Palestinian against an Israeli, or if it and dozens of other events like it collectively might have had an effect on something, let's codify that. Create a subhead that explains that articles that advance opposition to the Palestinian cause are exempt from the rules that govern other articles. I'm only partly sarcastic. –Roscelese (talkcontribs) 19:44, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
Ok so we are just going to ignore the heavy favour to Keep consensus for this AfD because you lot think it is still not notable? Talk about irony.--BabbaQ (talk) 22:29, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
I don't think Deryck Chan had any other option based on the way the discussion went; I just think the keep !voters were flagrantly ignoring policy in pursuit of an agenda, and if that's always going to happen (because it does), we may as well say so. –Roscelese (talkcontribs) 22:41, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
Who is really having an agenda here? Really?. Well, Im just going to leave this self-destruction business alone. Not interested in self-gain moves. Bye.--BabbaQ (talk) 23:20, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[edit]

Hi. Can you look at this and help the Editor to close and resubmit if you consider necessary. In ictu oculi (talk) 04:59, 26 August 2012 (UTC)


Nominator User:DBigXray did not advise the article creator (me) when he initiated Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Salim Suliman Al Harbi (2nd nomination) and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mohamed Anwar Kurd

You closed these {{afd}}, so I think you are entitled to know this. Geo Swan (talk) 22:29, 28 August 2012 (UTC)


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Thank you for your long service to the project, for quality articles such as Flag of Hong Kong, for admin coaching, for helpful reviews, - you are an awesome Wikipedian! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:42, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

A year ago, you were the 228th recipient of my PumpkinSky Prize, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:13, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

"unhelpful to the progress of this discussion"[edit]

BS. The only thing unhelpful to he progress of the discussion is Thom-293's complete lack of knowledge of how the project works.—Ryulong (琉竜) 19:44, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

HOly cow you even added in the HTML formatting instead of the Wikipedia formatting. How far did you go back?—Ryulong (琉竜) 19:48, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

The discussion now revolves around Tokyogirl79's analysis, so it'll be helpful to preserve the state of the article when she assessed it. I had a good laugh when I read "HOly cow". I reverted as far back as the edit which added the AfD nomination to the article. Deryck C. 20:02, 3 September 2012 (UTC)
You could have at least just reverted back to the last version before I edited. But now I had to get rid of the unnecessary bolding of people's names in the events section.—Ryulong (琉竜) 20:50, 3 September 2012 (UTC)
Lazy admin not caring enough to plough through every single edit in the history. My apologies for coming up with a suboptimal revert. Deryck C. 21:11, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

Fresher's fair[edit]

Hi Deryck. I'd certainly like to help out at the fresher's fair stall but will only be able to do a few hours, probably in the mornings. Let me know when you have more details. What kind of things are you planning for the society? the wub "?!" 20:55, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

Societies fair[edit]

Hi Deryck, sounds good! Could you email me at rp410 with the details just so I have it there? Thanks! Ezia (talk) 22:12, 7 September 2012 (UTC)


Hi Deryck, thanks for the invite. Unfortunately, I will not be available for Cambridge on those days. :( Hope to see you at another Cambridge meetup again, though! :) Acalamari 21:17, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

A bowl of strawberries for you![edit]

Erdbeerteller01.jpg Thanks for leaving that message on my talk page! Callanecc (talkcontribslogs) 08:49, 12 September 2012 (UTC)


Not a problem ... I'll remove it. Daniel Case (talk) 14:16, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Oh, I see ... you want to do the followup. Fine ... I usually leave followup on {{coiq}} to other admins anyway. I have restored it. Daniel Case (talk) 14:21, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Societies Fair[edit]

I have to bring the stall for the Go Soc on Tuesday, and take it away Wednesday; but they haven't required me to help otherwise. I can give you some help therefore. Charles Matthews (talk) 10:54, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

Geonotice (again)[edit]

Hi Deryck,

Glad to hear the fair's going well - I'm actually working in Cambridge today and tomorrow, but as I'm staying home due to an unsightly injury, I think it's best I don't come down to help out! I'd scare everyone off...

I've recently listed another BL event at Wikipedia:Geonotice - would you be able to put this through for me? (As always, I'd prefer to avoid doing it myself).

Many thanks, Andrew Gray (talk) 15:38, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Freshers' fair[edit]

Hey! It was nice to meet you today at the Freshers' fair; let me know of any upcoming events for the society. Though I am quite busy this term (4th year project & applying for jobs!) I hope to make it to some events and see the faces behind the nicknames! Bye, --Mark91it's my world 23:34, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Nina Power[edit]

I have counted 13 wikipedia pages where Nina Power is mentioned: her newspaper reviews, authored books, political campaigning. I did not weigh into the debates leading up to her page's deletion. I also see a French wikipedia page devoted to her, largely based on notable references in English. Obviously this is a matter for French wikipedia. But it seems to me there is case for rewriting a page. I feel I need hardly cite some of the many pages which fail the appropriate criteria far more decisively than her page did.Rachel0898 (talk) 21:28, 10 October 2012 (UTC)


There's no tone of voice to tell me, so I'm not sure if your comment was congratulatory or sarcastic. Either way, it wasn't a big deal - I went to remove the out of date event, and in passing noted the Americanism. To be honest, I considered also changing "meetup", but left it in case that's standard WMUK language. --Dweller (talk) 10:27, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

Inquisiq LMS has been deleted[edit]

Hello- I see that you have deleted the Article "Inquisiq LMS". I'd like to clean up the article and resubmit. Could you offer some advice as to how I might go about doing so?

Gilmore72724 (talk) 19:29, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

Hi again[edit]

A photo for you

Nice to see you again today at the Cambridge editing workshop! cmɢʟee 23:58, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2012 in UFC events (4th nomination)[edit]

2012 in UFC was deleted as a result of this AfD, I believe that the reason for the original article's nomination is not one for which deletion is a sutiable fix, the article can be fixed by editing. Can you please review the AfD and the two articles and see if you are willing to overturn the result and restore 2012 in UFC events and by extension 2012 in UFC. Mtking (edits) 08:00, 17 December 2012 (UTC)


What do you hear ? Fête (talk) 22:41, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

Do you hear the word chicken in Cantonese ? Fête (talk) 16:56, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

It sounds like what in Cantonese ? Fête (talk) 12:48, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

It sounds like the word low in Cantonese in the second syllable ? Fête (talk) 15:08, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

It sounds like the Chinese first name of Joseph Koo ?

It sounds like fight ? Fête (talk) 21:30, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

Does it sounds like the word kung fu in Cantonese ? Fête (talk) 13:00, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

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Jacky Cheung[edit]

Do you feel Jacky Cheung's voice is different in the video and ? Fête (talk) 14:25, 24 December 2012 (UTC)


Can you please look at the anon user ‎ who is reverting my changes on Tishma article. I found you already warned this IP in User_talk: . Thanks altaf 21:22, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

Zhu Jiang Delta[edit]

Hi, I've noticed you changed all the instances of Zhu Jiang Delta in Manufacturing in Hong Kong to 'Pearl River Delta' 'to conform with common usage' (, but I'd like to dispute that. I'm not sure how the names were put when you were in school, but all modern geography textbooks use pinyin for geographical names in China (except districts of Hong Kong, of course). The curriculum and assessment guide for geography also primarily uses 'Zhujiang', though 'Pearl River' is put in brackets. Do you think it would be better to change it back? Kayau (talk · contribs) 05:09, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

City vs. territory[edit]

[2] [3] I'm afraid the intro is supposed to be for the international audience. In common usage the word city may refer only to a built-up or a downtown area, instead of a whole metro or conurbation. And after all HK isn't a densely populated city if we are talking about the whole territory. (talk) 14:27, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

As mentioned, Hong Kong shouldn't be referred to be a city. It should be referred to as a territory. Further, English law specifically, namely, not other British law such as Scot law or old Welsh law, is in place in Hong Kong. Hong Kong wasn't just one village when the island was ceded by the Manchu Empire to the UK: Shau Kei Wan was its own village; Wong Chuk Hang was another, for instance. There were also many villages scattered all around other parts of the territory apart from the Hong Kong Island itself, such as, Tsim Sha Tsui, Lyemoon, Ng Tsin Wai, Ma Tau Wai, etc. Please don't undo all my edits in one go without any good reason. Comments like 'weird perspective' and 'make little sense' are simply meaningless and ridiculous. (talk) 19:59, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
Please register an account so we can have a coherent discussion. Deryck C. 21:27, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
116.49: Actually, it is, according to the most popular theory on the name of Hong Kong. I've written about that on Wikibooks.. Kayau (talk · contribs) 11:43, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
Deryck could you identify what were problematic, if there's any, in that edit? (talk) 17:53, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
Please specify which edit. The diff you posted above is a broken link. You may also want to look at the rewritten sentence about population density ranking which was done immediately after your first post here on 24 January. Deryck C. 17:59, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
Not sure why you'd want to link to my latest edit. Okay :) Deryck C. 18:08, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
The links have been fixed. As mentioned, the word 'city' is confusing to refer to the entirety of Hong Kong. Further, the area that constitutes modern HK (i.e., post-1898 HK) contained more than one village when British rule was established. The English legal system specifically, and not other British legal systems, is in place. (talk) 15:10, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Hello? (talk) 17:15, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

I've made another edit since your message on 6 February. I see little merit in pursuing further discussion on this topic. Deryck C. 17:22, 10 February 2013 (UTC)
Fyi: Talk:Hong Kong. Cheers. (talk) 15:23, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

wm2013:Hong Kong[edit]

(talk page stalker) - Also, there should probably be two 'a's in both 'bat' and 'dat', both in Cantonese pinyin and Jyutping. :P Kayau (talk · contribs) 12:47, 25 January 2013 (UTC)


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哋 deih as an associative plural[edit]

Hi! I noticed you removed an edit of mine to the article on Cantonese grammar, which said that 哋 could be used as a suffix for proper nouns: On the other hand, 哋 dei6 may be added to a proper noun, meaning "X and their group/friends/family/company".

I took that from Virginia Yip and Stephen Matthews' books on Cantonese grammar. For example, in Cantonese: A Comprehensive Grammar (2nd ed.) they give the example Bóulòuh-deih (that is, Paul-哋) in page 97 meaning 'Paul and his family', 'Paul and his friends', 'Paul and his colleagues', 'etc.'.

I find it very interesting that you said this is simply not true. Is this perhaps because it's not used among relatively young people age anymore? (The authors are admittedly in their 50s or something...)--Serafín33 (talk) 06:41, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Questions about adding "Garnet Capital Advisors" article[edit]


I am trying to figure out the best way to go about having an organization, in this case Garnet Capital Advisors (which is mentioned in other Wikipedia articles such as "Loan Sale", "Mission Capital Advisors", etc. I feel as though it would be a great addition to Wikipedia and would like some advice as to best go about it because it seems as though doing it myself might create conflict of interest issues. Any advice/direction would be greatly appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Garnetcap2013 (talkcontribs) 20:58, 10 April 2013 (UTC)


呢個音似"低"嗎? (talk) 14:27, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

Pan Changyao[edit]

You might be able to help me here. Pan Changyao was a hong merchant around 1800 in Guangzhou, and is well known under his trading name Consequa or Conseequa. He has come up for me in Charles Hampden Turner, in connection with wisteria. It seems that most of the wisteria we see in the West comes from a specimen he gave from his own garden. It would be therefore be good to get his name in characters: they are here. He is certainly also notable in his own right. Charles Matthews (talk) 08:39, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

So it seems I'm lucky today with Google. Is 潘長耀 correct? Charles Matthews (talk) 09:05, 9 May 2013 (UTC)


We need to act fast in order for the current RMs to be killed off. GotR Talk 17:53, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

I'm not convinced we can win the situation back. Unfortunately Wikipedia operates by the wisdom of crowds. Where the crowds prefer to misunderstand things, those who are correct can but snub from the sidelines. Also notice the trend that Chinese speakers tend to argue China != PRC whereas non-speakers tend to argue China == PRC. Deryck C. 00:01, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

Banc de Binary / Banc De Binary[edit]

As a result of this AfD, you deleted the article Banc de Binary. An article on the same topic, Banc De Binary, was created three months later. Could you either speedily delete this recreation on G4 grounds, or provide me with a copy of the deleted Banc de Binary article, as I think there was add'l info there that should be included, if the new version of the article is kept. Thanks. --Hobbes Goodyear (talk) 00:12, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

DYK-Good Article Request for Comment[edit]

Hi, would you like to elaborate your rationale in the General Discussion section?--Gilderien Chat|List of good deeds 09:41, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

Wikimania 2013 - see you again in London?[edit]

Hi Deryck. Yours was no enviable task having to be everywhere round the clock for everyone. I can't let this Wikimania go without taking the opportunity once more to express my heartfelt thanks for all your hard work and your particular special attention to my eccentric needs :) Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 23:08, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Hong Kong meetup 83[edit]

  In the area? You're invited to
   Hong Kong Meetup # 83
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  Date: November 15
  Time: 7PM
  Place: Think Cafe, Unit B, 19/F, Kyoto Plaza, 491-499 Lockhart Road, Causeway Bay
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SusanLai (talk) 09:51, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Hong Kong meetup 84[edit]

  In the area? You're invited to
   Hong Kong Meetup # 84
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  Date: December 13
  Time: 7PM
  Place: Think Cafe, Unit B, 19/F, Kyoto Plaza, 491-499 Lockhart Road, Causeway Bay
  prev: Meetup 83 - next: Meetup 85

SusanLai (talk) 06:53, 12 December 2013 (UTC)


TheBeachHH2.jpg Best wishes
for the holidays and 2014 from a warmer place than where you probably are ;) Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 11:44, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Britelite Technologies[edit]

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Hong Kong meetup 86[edit]

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   Hong Kong Meetup # 86
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  Date: February 22
  Time: 7PM
  Place: Think Cafe, Unit B, 19/F, Kyoto Plaza, 491-499 Lockhart Road, Causeway Bay
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SusanLai (talk) 06:33, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Matthew Schellhorn[edit]

Can we restore the page about the above? His Messiaen disc as referred to included a World Premiere recording, which indicates notability. — Preceding unsigned comment added by HFJ (talkcontribs) 00:13, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi – have replied at – not sure if you will see it? HFJ ( talk ) 17:12, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
I have now corrected the article. Does it look in a position to publish? HFJ (talk) 14:12, 13 March 2014 (UTC)


Has all the events concluded yet and the necessary maintenance done? I'm tempted to ping a dev and ask him to lock it on considerations of spam and whatnot. It'll still be available as a read-only archive though. TeleComNasSprVen (talkcontribs) 13:43, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sokratis Dioudis[edit]

You closed Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sokratis Dioudis and deleted Michalis Giannitsis. A few days late he made his professional debut, and the page was recreated. However the previous edit history hasn't been restored. Can you do this? Thanks, Nfitz (talk) 03:53, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

  • Thanks! Nfitz (talk) 14:50, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

The word 'country'[edit]

Hello Deryck I noted that you got several barnstars for improving HK topics. Would you be interested to take a look at Talk:Malaysia Airlines Flight 370, Talk:List of tram and light rail transit systems, Talk:List of metro systems and Talk:List of tallest buildings in the world too, as well as the recent edit history of World's busiest airports by passenger traffic? (talk) 19:50, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

Haven't got time for that. Have fun. Deryck C. 04:21, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

Hong Kong meetup 87[edit]

  In the area? You're invited to
   Hong Kong Meetup # 87
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  Date: February 28
  Time: 7PM
  Place: Think Cafe, Unit B, 19/F, Kyoto Plaza, 491-499 Lockhart Road, Causeway Bay
  prev: Meetup 86 - next: Meetup 88

SusanLai (talk) 04:56, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

Hong Kong meetup 87[edit]

  In the area? You're invited to
   Hong Kong Meetup # 87
Wan Chai 2008.jpg
  Date: March 28
  Time: 8PM
  Place: Think Cafe, Unit B, 19/F, Kyoto Plaza, 491-499 Lockhart Road, Causeway Bay
  prev: Meetup 86 - next: Meetup 88

SusanLai (talk) 05:02, 26 March 2014 (UTC)