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Copyright violations[edit]

Hello, please don't copy text – even short passages – off other websites or journal articles, as you did at Neonatal teeth. Write the content in your own words, keeping in mind that Wikipedia is written for a general audience, not for health professionals. I've done this at the Neonatal teeth article. I noticed your name on my watchlist when you edited the Apert syndrome article; I reverted your edit there because the article is already in Category:Genodermatoses, a subcategory of Category:Congenital disorders. Graham87 06:52, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for informing. A short while back, I have already got another message informing about a similar incident. I admit that earlier I erroneously thought that taking small portions of text from relevant sources would be allowable and that it was not be a problem if I did not copy it on the whole. I did not mean to violate copyrights and am a serious editor otherwise. I was only ignorant of the fact. I have already taken it in consideration for my present edits. But there might be some violations in the edits that I have already made. I would definitely try to find them and rewrite them. But before that please do not consider me a brat/violator. I would also be glad if you could look up my edits and help me in doing the same. I do not wish them to be reverted as they would cause unnecessary loss of useful information.DiptanshuTalk 05:15, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing, particularly the sections about correcting it, for some good advice. I don't know anything about medicine and I'm very busy so I'm a little hesitant about going through your contributions systematically, but I'll give it a go if I have time. Graham87 07:25, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
Not an issue. Sooner or later I would brush through my old edits as well as the cited contents and would remove or rewrite any content that may have been plagarised. I understand that you are really busy but I wonder how you find so much time to make so many edits. Moreover, I am keen to know the reason that made you watch my edits.DiptanshuTalk 10:32, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
Firstly, thanks for the change to my user page; I don't mind at all. I quite literally don't do much besides Wikipedia at the moment ... but I find so many issues on my watchlist and around the site that it keeps me very well occupied. I'm willing to do one or two reviews every now and then, but not to occupy myself with it constantly. To lighten the workload and get more eyes on this situation (because I've never done something like this before), , it might be worth asking the medicine WikiProject or Wikipedia:Contributor copyright investigations, but the latter option strikes me as extremely heavy-handed
For the answer to the question of how I found you, see the last two sentences of my initial message in this section; I found the Nenotal teeth article while searching for a word in your contributions (perhaps it was "Category"). Whatever it was, when I stumbled on the text you'd added from that journal article, it just seemed so discordant with the rest of the text I had to take another look.
While checking your contribs, I'd noticed that you'd ask me to review an article ... I'll go and do that! Graham87 11:41, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
Thinking about it some more, creating a Contributor copyright investigations (CCI) page to review your work might not be such a bad idea, especially if you're willing to co-operate, and we can get WikiProject Medicine on board. I'm suggesting this not as a punishment, but as a way for several people to systematically check your contributions and rewrite them if they can. Graham87 12:16, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
Dipanshu, thanks for your good work on en.WP. When you say "Sooner or later I would brush through my old edits ...", it's important to recast any text you recognise as being too close to a source. The alternative, of course, is to directly quote and cite; but there's a limit to the size of individual quotations, and the proportion of an article that WP editors feel comfortable with as direct quotations. Here's an opportunity to forge some collaborative relationships with other editors. Cheers. Tony (talk) 12:52, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
Thanks Tony for your cooperation. I would definitely look forward to forging a good, interactive and collaborative relationship with other serious editors. My answer to Graham will also answer your queriesDiptanshuTalk 15:00, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
Thanks Graham for your cooperation. I am a serious editor and am definitely willing to cooperate if a Contributor copyright investigations (CCI)page is created. An easier way may be be simply to review the list pages mentioned on my userpage, that I have contributed to. Systematically looking up those pages would be enough as the other edits might be irrelevant for you in this context. My availability often varies due to the nature of my work but I would definitely try to do my part.DiptanshuTalk 14:57, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
I have added back the contents at Neonatal teeth after I have paraphrased itDiptanshuTalk 02:23, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
Thanks, good job. I might have been a bit harsh there ... but one of my other concerns was that the source (written in 1978) may have been out of date. Yes, going through the articles on your user page systematically would be the best way to start, and there are not as many there as I'd feared, frankly, given your edit count ... like me, you seem to like doing maintenance edits. I've taken the liberty of moving this conversation to the end of the section. I noticed your reply to Tony last night, but I didn't realize you had also replied to me because of the position of your comments. Graham87 06:52, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
While at times I improve the contents of an article as I feel to be required, I often engage myself in enriching the references, copyedits and other maintenance edits. You can look up the edits that I have made today to Abetalipoproteinemia. The contents remains almost the same but a number of references have been added after cross checking. Although it may seem to be a thankless job as it might hardly get noticed, I believe it to be important.DiptanshuTalk 07:36, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
Indeed, this type of work is also very important. As you can probably tell, I'm up to Fontanelle (hey, that rhymes!); so far, so good. Graham87 13:14, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

Reply[edit]

Here is the deleted text for you to work on "Subconscious tracts function in maintaining subconscious regulation of balance, muscle tone, eye, hand, and upper limb position." Jimfbleak - talk to me? 18:54, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

subconscious motor tracts[edit]

This article should not exist on Wikipedia. The term "subconscious motor tract" does not appear in any book or academic publication, only in the college lecture notes that you cited, and they are not a usable source. We would effectively be inventing the term in our article, and we can't do that. I am going to add a "proposed deletion" template to the article. I hope you won't remove it -- if you do, we'll simply have to go through a more laborious process, and the article will end up deleted anyway. I'm sure you created it in good faith, so I don't cast blame on you, but one way or another the article has to go. Regards, Looie496 (talk) 05:18, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

After creating the article, I too am going through various books. Although it seems not to be a standard term, I feel that it is a functional grouping of the tracts. Incidentally, talking about the autonomic nervous system that originates primarily from the spinal cord, much of it deals with motor response involving our viscera. I do not have any intentions of disturbing the standard operations of Wikipedia and so the question of removing the "proposed deletion" template does not arise. DiptanshuTalk 06:36, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for the calm response -- based on past experience, I was afraid we would end up getting into a battle. Let me deal with the various points that are raised here:
(1) Removing a "proposed deletion" template does not violate any policy. That template can be removed by any editor who thinks that it should not be there. The only bad thing about removing it in this case would be that (in my view) it wastes time for people, because the article would end up being deleted anyway via the AfD process, which is much more laborious. However, if you can find a better name for the article that is supported by good sources, there might be a legitimate reason to remove the prod template.
(2) I completely agree with you that our coverage of nerve tracts is defective. Unfortunately I don't know very much about that topic. I know quite a bit about brain anatomy, but only the basics concerning the spinal cord. Regarding grouping the tracts together, you might have better luck using the term "involuntary" rather than "subconscious". Even "unconscious" would be more likely than "subconscious" -- you might look at our article on the Subconscious to see the way that term in ordinarily used.
Regards, Looie496 (talk) 15:15, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for your response. Though involuntary is a medically accepted term, the composite terminology has the same problems as the earlier one. I would try to look up an alternative term but by that time probably the article would be gone. I am userifying the article in my talk page for now. The link backs from the article pages of the four constituent pages and Spinal cord article page need to be modified after the aricle is gone. In the meantime, I would insist you to look for some serious editors (based on your past experience) who would be appropriate for the task on the spinal tracts.DiptanshuTalk 04:04, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
Hi Diptanshu.D! Just telling you I undid your good faith "subconscious motor tract" edits, with the following motivation: Very uncommon term. Please first create subconscious motor tract - and if it is accepted, you can revert this edit. Without the article it is only a confusing concept for our readers. (Readers will wonder what is meant and won't be able to find the answer in Wikipedia.) With friendly regards! Lova Falk talk 18:31, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

May 2013[edit]

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Re: Neonatal bowel obstruction[edit]

No worries; I've done a brief review of the new article and it sounds pretty good to me. Graham87 05:30, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

The Wikipedia Library now offering accounts from Cochrane Collaboration (sign up!)[edit]

The Wikipedia Library gets Wikipedia editors free access to reliable sources that are behind paywalls. Because you are signed on as a medical editor, I thought you'd want to know about our most recent donation from Cochrane Collaboration.

  • Cochrane Collaboration is an independent medical nonprofit organization that conducts systematic reviews of randomized controlled trials of health-care interventions, which it then publishes in the Cochrane Library.
  • Cochrane has generously agreed to give free, full-access accounts to 100 medical editors. Individual access would otherwise cost between $300 and $800 per account.
  • If you are still active as a medical editor, come and sign up :)

Cheers, Ocaasi t | c 20:14, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Request placed. Thanks. DiptanshuTalk 06:46, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
Removed request completely from the respective page as I later found that I already have access vide my country of residence. DiptanshuTalk 06:04, 20 July 2013 (UTC)

By the way thanks for the work you do fixing refs[edit]

Such as here [1]. Have started discussion about linking terms like symptoms at WTMED here [2] Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 13:44, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

I really appreciate that rather than expressing personal view you sought a global view by initiating the discussion on Wikipedia Medicine talk page. The views would help me shape my future edits. DiptanshuTalk 13:52, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
Glad that you appreciated my contributions fixing references. A better example would be ones like this. Do you think there is any other way to involve other people to expedite the process of such edits? DiptanshuTalk 13:58, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
Yes agree. I frequently encourage people to use the cite templates. I also think that we should have a more consistent referencing style (at least within medicine). We could then have bots or automated tools apply this more consistent style more widely. The first step would be obtaining a consensus for this. I have tried in the past but there was not previously much desire for this. Some of the little steps I have advocated for was placing refs over 1 line rather than dozens of lines. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 14:11, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
Is there a way that a bot could be set to tag the pages with references without any digital way of verification as in the unedited version of this? The references need to be verifiable and I think that like the refimprove, unreferenced, citation needed, etc. tags, if a similar tag could be designed and laid down by a bot (excluding the clumsy work that would have otherwise required human intervention), it would be much easier to take care of the issue of verifiability. DiptanshuTalk 14:35, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
It is acceptable to use references that can only be verified by going to a library. Thus getting consensus for this would be hard. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 14:39, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
I understand the validity of your statement. But when utilities like DOI, JSTOR and Google books have made life a lot easier, I was trying to find a way to make good use of such utilities. DiptanshuTalk 14:46, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
On a second thought, I felt that you might not be entirely right on this. In case of journal references PMID makes finding it a lot easier and in case of books ISBN serves a similar purpose. So, what I had been asking for, remains utilitarian. I am not saying that there is any harm if references are without them, I am only saying that its a lot better if these identifiers are present, its even better if they can be checked online. In case not everybody appreciates the view, a hidden category may still serve the purpose. DiptanshuTalk 15:06, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
I agree completely that all refs should have PMIDs and ISBN if available. Not all journal articles are pubmed indexed though. And not all ISBNs are accessible online. Would be great to have a bot that adds this if available though. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 17:10, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
I know that not all journal articles have PMIDs or DOIs. But the fact is that not all journals maintain authenticity or quality of the publication. As a matter of fact, apart from one or two, most Indian journals are neither authentic nor Pubmed indexed. So presence of Pubmed indexing or PMID adds to the authenticity journal articles (although lack of it does not mean that it is not qualitative). Most books however have ISBN but many are not accessible online. But let me come to the practical issue, I am not a programmer and cannot create a bot. How can we request someone to produce a bot in case one is needed. I would be glad if you can guide me through the process. DiptanshuTalk 13:46, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

Neonatal bowel obstruction[edit]

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I hereby pass the sacred missing article trophy on to you, in recognition for your work on Neonatal bowel obstruction. Congratulations and keep up the good work! Ochiwar (talk) 14:53, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Umbilical venous catheterisation[edit]

A tag has been placed on Umbilical venous catheterisation, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done for the following reason:

Wikipedia is not a dictionary.

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If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, you can place a request here. Dusti*Let's talk!* 02:43, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

Although the article Umbilical line already exists, it is underdeveloped and does not elaborate the specifics of the actual procedure involved in its insertion. Either the original article needs to be developed with a redirect from the terms Umbilical venous catheterisation and Umbilical venous catheterization. The importance of the terms can be found as in the emedicine article or the calculations involved.

Cochrane[edit]

Hi Diptanshu, Just saw your post on the page regarding the Cochrane Library Access. If you are interested in adding evidence to medical articles, please consider reading and signing up on this page. If you are new to EBM in general please have a look at [[3]] to get a basic idea. Please dont hesitate to contact me if you have any doubts/clarifications. Manu Mathew (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 13:43, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

Nomination of Umbilical venous catheterisation for deletion[edit]

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Umbilical venous catheterisation is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Umbilical venous catheterisation until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Dusti*Let's talk!* 22:44, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

Removing Redirect[edit]

Hello,

We are trying to set up recording artist Moses Stone's wiki page on wiki he is our recording artist signed with our company and he was on a tv show called the voice there is a redirec page we need removed so we can set up his page for his fans and bussiness personal online info can you please help us with doing this.

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Artskyent3 (talkcontribs) 23:14, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for asking for my support. Here are the things I would like to let you know.
  • A page cannot be redirected to itself. If you want to remove the redirect from the page, remove the #REDIRECT and replace it with the contents of the article you want to produce. Else it would be considered as an unconstructive edit and possible vandalism and would be reverted.
  • Try to form a contructive article on Moses Stone if you wish to remove the redirect.
  • In your message on the talk pages, you can wikilink it to the respective page by enclosing it in double square brackets as in [[Moses Stone]]
  • When you write on a talk page, please sign by leaving ~~~~ after your message.

DiptanshuTalk 16:00, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

Translation[edit]

Hey Diptanshu. The translation task force is currently only 80 articles. There is discussion here about adding more topics [4] but we are not there yet as these 80 are enough at this point. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 16:48, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

I would have loved to participate but I am on a wikibreak till September or begining of October and would be acting at a very low level or not at all. Would participate after coming back (if applicable). Till then email would be the preferred route of communication. DiptanshuTalk 13:21, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

"American diamond" redlink in "See also" section of Cubic zirconia[edit]

Hi. You recently added a link in the "See also" section of the article on Cubic zirconia, to the (currently nonexistent) article "American diamond". Are you about to create an "American diamond" article? If not, this link probably should not be included in the "Cubic zirconia" article — per WP:REDNOT, "Red links are generally not included in ... See also sections". If you believe there is a valid, pressing reason why this red link should be kept, I would be grateful if you could let me know what the reason is. Thanks. — Richwales (no relation to Jimbo) 18:27, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

Error[edit]

Kemon aschhis ? Kothay aschhis ? And the first edit in your user page was in error, I didn't even look what it was. Probably your user page is in my watch list since its creation? And somehow I touched some sort of revert button in that page. Some minutes later, I realized that error on looking at my contribution, and then self reverted. --Dwaipayan (talk) 23:51, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

References[edit]

Please use high quality references per WP:MEDRS such as review articles or major textbooks. Note that review articles are NOT the same as peer reviewed articles. A good place to find medical sources is TRIP database Thanks.
Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 14:38, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks pertains to these two edits. [5] Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 17:44, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
References added for the [edits. DiptanshuTalk 18:02, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

Systemic-onset juvenile idiopathic arthritis[edit]

Hello, Diptanshu.D, and thank you for your contributions!

Some text in an article you worked on Systemic-onset juvenile idiopathic arthritis, appears to be directly copied from http://www.uptodate.com/contents/systemic-onset-juvenile-idiopathic-arthritis-treatment. Please take a minute to double-check that you're following proper citing, quoting and close paraphrasing guidelines. The Help desk is always a good place to ask if you're not sure.

It's entirely possible that this bot made a mistake, so please feel free to remove this notice and the tag it placed on Systemic-onset juvenile idiopathic arthritis at any time. MadmanBot (talk) 14:36, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

Link[edit]

Have removed this link [6]. There are serious issues with this article Asperger syndrome and neuroscience. For one we are not allowed to reproduce the DSM criteria. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 18:12, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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Thanks for cleaning up those references in Cancer today. WhatamIdoing (talk) 23:30, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

Few comments[edit]

I am happy to have you add DOIs and PMCs. If the ref is only used once however <ref name="pmid22818936"> is not needed. Also I do not mind a few others listed by if there are a more than 10 do not wish them all there. People can click on the ref to seem them. I do not like the page numbers outside of the references. Thanks User:Jmh649Talk 12:28, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

The convention seems to list up to five authors, but if there's more than five then we just list the first three and then "et al". For the reader it is not that important that we list every author of every paper.
Of course I very much support the addition of DOI, PMID and PMC identifiers to references - they bring digital content to life. JFW | T@lk 22:01, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
As for me, I frequently look up the references, moreso if they are journal references. DOI, PMID and PMC gives me accessible links for the same and even marks the credibility of the articles. Moreover, in a subject like medicine where the accepted facts are likely to vary with time and newer data, verifiability of the sources can be an important issue.
By the way, the new |displayauthors of Cite journal template does not leave an et al. after it hides any additional authors. Please see if something can be done about it. DiptanshuTalk 03:43, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

Column width as per resoulution[edit]

I saw that Bloom6132, Götz, Muboshgu and Sasata reverted my edit(s) where I had changed the layout for the references section to a 2 column one instead of using the 30em format. But tell me something. I am on a screen with a resoulution 1024x768. I do not consider this to be of very low width, and yet my browser displays the references in one single column. I feel that for people using desktops, 1024x768 is still a standard resolution. And I feel that this screen size can adequately support a two column layout without looking clumsy. What alternative do you suggest so that it displays in two columns for a 1024x768 screen? DiptanshuTalk 15:33, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

This might help. Cheers! —Bloom6132 (talk) 16:17, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
What you said refers to setting my preferences. But this is not what I intended to ask. I spoke generally on behalf of other people who might be using a page width of 1024px. I feel that the two column layout should apply for them as well. DiptanshuTalk 16:29, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
Well, they can do the same as what I said above if they want two columns. Wikipedia can't satisfy everyone all the time, and I believe the 30em satisfies the majority of users. —Bloom6132 (talk) 16:37, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
I beg to differ. Refer to Global browser statistics which reveal that the although 19.73% users have a screen width of 1366px., the number of people using 1024px. screen width is comparable at 13.75% (as of October 2013). In other words on using the 30em. layout, while 13.75% users (of 1024px screen width) would be disadvantaged being forced to view a single column layout, it would provide an extra advantage of being be able to view a 3 column layout by only 5.98% of additional users (of 19.73% users in excess of matching 13.75% on both sides). I do not think that 13.75% can be put on a disadvantage for the extra benifit of 5.98%. Point me out if I am in a statistical error. I still feel that the 2 column layout helps the majority although the number of users of greater resolution screen is higher. DiptanshuTalk 16:58, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Hi, I agree with Bloom6132, setting customized CSS settings may be the best option. Those stats from w3counter include mobile users, which default to use the mobile version of Wikipedia. According to w3schools (doesn't seem to include mobile), display resolutions with a width greater than 1280px seems to be the majority, over 90%. This is the recommendations for number of columns by number of references. --Götz (talk) 17:16, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

I appreciate your views. Probably using em. layout is indeed better but this is not what I am fighting. I just suggest some format where the 1280px also displays a 2 column layout. It could well be that a 20em or 25em does the trick. I am not a technical person and need your inputs on this. DiptanshuTalk 17:22, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
I don't know why 30em was chosen as the "standard". Maybe, as you state, 20 or 25em could do the trick. But considering that the em unit is dependent on the height of the type size being used, not on the display resolution (but there is the relation between this and the font size being used); "for example, one em in a 16-point typeface is 16 points wide. Therefore, this unit is the same for all typefaces at a given point size". At the {{reflist}} talk page we might find an answer on the 20-25-30 or whatever value fits better. --Götz (talk) 18:04, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
I just tried out various combinations on my screen. I noticed that for 25-29em, it displays as 2 column but a 30em displays as one column. I think you should keep this in mind and use a number slightly lesser than 30 for the same. DiptanshuTalk 18:08, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
Please stop mussing with the column widths. 30 and 33em are the most common among well reviewed articles nowadays.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 09:30, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
I have taken the discussion further on Template talk:Reflist. I would request users to carry on the discussion there if they are interested. DiptanshuTalk 10:08, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
  • This has been discussed before. The reason that two formats are allowed is that it is not clear that the 30 format is better on most pages. It is worse on mine -- forces one column. As with date formats, where more than one is acceptable, don't edit war for the one you prefer -- go, as we do with dates -- with the prior format. If you want to force the project to prefer your approach, do that at MOS.--Epeefleche (talk) 02:32, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
  • Consensus has already been reached. In addition to the four editors listed in the first comment of this section, TonyTheTiger has also added his support for 30em. It's clearly the most supported format between the two. Any reversions back to the {{reflist|2}} format demonstrates an WP:ICANTHEARYOU and WP:IDONTLIKEIT attitude which is completely disruptive. —Bloom6132 (talk) 03:14, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
Other than with the objective of informing me, I would strongly insist proceeding with this topic on the Template talk:Reflist page. DiptanshuTalk 17:40, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Moved[edit]

Done Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 07:20, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

Ejection Fraction[edit]

Hello friend, I noticed you have tinkered with Ejection Fraction. I enjoy tinkering with this stuff as much as Wiki will let me. I am a 55 y/0 WM Cardiology PA. I'd appreciate your review of my edits over the years. If you look carefully you will notice there a few hundred missing. I named this lost article "Injection Fraction" thinking that if you mathematically invert Fick's principle for diastole this is not "original work". I polished it the best I could and it ran unchallenged for almost two years. I saw it as just holding up a mirror to the prior work, an isomer if you will. Perhaps "Invert Fick" would have been a better title. Boy was I ever wrong. Defining a volumetric for Heart Failure with preserved Ejection Fraction has proved to be as ticklish a topic as any mathematician could approach. I was once kicked off of Wikipedia for three months for skirting the edges of encyclopedic knowledge. My grandchildren find this hilarious. I read a lot of cardiac physiology. When one starts to edit the literature on this subject they soon learn where the edges are. As an editor, I am now on the straight and narrow. I welcome further correspondence. Lbeben (talk · contribs) 05:14, 17 December 2013 (IST)

Paragraph[edit]

Hi,I noticed that your paragraphs were not in an orderly manner so i decided to inform you about it--EB1999 02:39, 28 December 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eb1999 (talkcontribs)

--EB1999 16:49, 28 December 2013 (UTC)== wikiwiki ==

have you seen this article?

if yes i dont seem to understand its source--EB1999 16:49, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

You have not specified the article. I do not remember any article on 'copyright violations'. Please write back with the exact article name within double square brackets as in [[Article name]] so that a wikilink is generated automatically. DiptanshuTalk 19:10, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

Citation suggestion[edit]

Hi. Thanks for your contributions to growth hormone. When adding citations to an article such as growth hormone that uses the Vancouver system as the predominate format, I suggest that you use User:Diberri's Wikipedia template filling tool (instructions). Given a PubMed ID, one can quickly produce a full citation that can be copied and pasted into a Wikipedia article. This will insure citations within the article are consistently formatted. Cheers. Boghog (talk) 17:47, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

Citing[edit]

Please will you not "carry over" citations from other articles without actually reading the sources that you cite. You made a lot of errors on 30 December by doing this, eg: at Kundu. One Wikipedia article is not reliable as a source for another, which is effectively what you were trying to achieve. In particular, those for India-related subjects are often hopeless even when sourced, partly because too many of the sources are themselves unreliable but also because people have a tendency to misrepresent the sources etc in the interests of showing their particular community in a good light.

And jatland.com is never a reliable source because it is an open wiki. Thanks. - Sitush (talk) 05:58, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

Which you know. This is beginning to look like spam - in fact, the only reason I can think of to include the link within the book's citation is to publicise the wiki. Dougweller (talk) 22:02, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
Ah. It seems from Dougweller's note that there may be more to this than I thought originally. If you are affiliated with jatland.com then there is indeed a wider problem. Please can you confirm/deny. - Sitush (talk) 01:30, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
I have no affiliation or link ups with jatland.com. What I (or you people too) can do is to just remove the |url portion of the citation rather than reverting the edit altogether. DiptanshuTalk 06:57, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
@Dougweller: and @Sitush: Although you prefer to be deletionists, I prefer the principle of Inclusionism which probably makes more sense. I do not feel that what you have recently done to the article Agharia is right. I understand that you are making edits in good faith but is the information is not contested in any form, what is the point in removing it? Place a tag {{fact}} or {{unreferenced}} so that someone may take care of it at a later point of time. You may also browse the page history and try to leave a note on the talk page of the editor who had made the particular edit in the past (unless the edit is from an IP). There is less probability that the user would respond back, but the probability enriches Wikipedia. Also remember WikiLove is a rather important principle to be remembered and your actions may unnecessarily hurt new and inexperienced editors who could otherwise be stimulated to make better edits with appropriate citations. This is what I feel. Both of you are significantly more experienced than me and your edits would have more impact. But I strongly feel that unknowingly you are doing more harm than good. Point me if I am wrong. DiptanshuTalk 07:49, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for confirming you have no relationship with jatland.com and removing it from citations. Inclusionism and deletionism apply to what articles should be on Wikipedia and do not override WP:VERIFY and WP:RS. Any unsourced material that our readers can't see as obviously correct is likely to be challenged at some point and can be removed. The material in question was added all at once here[7] and is probably copvyio from [8] and in any case was badly sourced. It's a shame that edit wasn't reverted immediately but this article is only on 6 editors' watchlists now and it's possible most of them are no longer active. The editor in question added this in 2012 but did edit in 2013 removing unsourced material they thought from their own experience was wrong. Dougweller (talk) 09:18, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
Diptanshu.D, there is much unreliable information added to caste/gotra etc articles. Most stuff from the Raj period, for example, is considered to be unreliable, as are the glorifications found in caste association/.samaj histories and much of the "states" series of The People of India (which basically just copied stuff from Raj sources, often with little or no attribution). Of course, there may be occasional exceptions, of which one example is Kavalam Madhava Panikkar in the Nair article. This is just the way it is, sorry.
Now that we've cleared up the jatland issue, it is obvious that you meant well with your changes but you need also to be aware of WP:CITEVAR. Personally, I much prefer using some sort of citation template to none at all but you should really have sought consensus for most of your changes because that is the way the community has decided it should be. This is why you'll sometimes see me doing things like this, even on articles where I am the creator or by far the major contributor. I'm not going to revert your style changes but someone will need to go through what you've done to check for any more "carrying over" of citations from one article to another. You should never just copy cites from one article to another: I know that doing so implies good faith in the person who added the citation in the first place but it seriously damages the integrity of the project, especially in topic areas that are known to be troublesome anyway. - Sitush (talk) 10:10, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
@Dougweller: and @Sitush: Thanks for your reply. I predominantly edit medical articles where citations play a very important role. For example, If you follow my edits on Antenatal steroid today, you will come to know about the sort of work I do. Incidentally, similar sources for India related articles are hard to find. I prefer the cite book or cite journal template because of the consistency they provide. You can rest assured that I do not carry over the references from other articles, but in case of Kundu, I felt a logical connection and acted accordingly. The copyvio involved in India related articles are definitely a cause of concern. Elsewhere, primary sources might be an issue. But still I would strongly insist you not to drop information from the Wikipedia articles if there is a scope. Unlike medical articles, searching the internet for reliable references for India related articles is not very practical. But still trying to enhance the references rather than dropping the data seems wiser. Let me know if I can be of help somewhere. DiptanshuTalk 14:52, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

re:Indian childhood cirrhosis[edit]

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Height userbox[edit]

  1. You shouldn't move things in another person's userspace without notifying them
  2. You left a double redirect behind that broke the template for all users for several hours

All in all, you shouldn't have done what you did without notifying me, and probably without discussing it pbp 16:11, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

Pardon me if what I have done was not right. I thought that WP:UB encouraged people to move the userboxes under the respective template. The weight and height userboxes are important userboxes that many people use and I landed upon the Health section of the userboxes while pursuing them. I admit that I should definitely have provided you the information for the same but I did not know that there could be any issues with it. Since I am not quite experienced with this moving stuff, I might have screwed things up a bit. But since you are a more experienced editor, could you guide me in this regard. DiptanshuTalk 17:22, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
For starters, it is not necessary to change the coding on other users' pages if the coding is properly redirected. As for moving boxes, you should perhaps start a move request and/or notify the user rather than moving outright. Furthermore, moving a page once, then moving it again will create double-redirect problems, so you should only move pages once pbp 17:40, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for your response. I am not a starter 1 but I do not generally move userboxes or work with userboxes. Inadvertently I had not changed the move from userpage section to template section and therefore landed up creating a double redirect. DiptanshuTalk 17:52, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

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Physiology work group[edit]

Thank you for your invitation to join this group. Unfortunately, I must say that I would not be much help because the topic is well beyond my knowledge. If I have edited any articles on the subject, I have done so only to revert obvious vandalism. My knowledge is more in the area of history where I have made my substantive contributions to the project's articles. I do appreciate the invitation and wish you good luck on a very worthwhile project. Donner60 (talk) 05:42, 29 April 2014 (UTC)

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Pseudoganglion[edit]

Hi Diptanshu - would you have any objections to Pseudoganglion merging to Ganglion. It is such a short stub and cannot see much scope for expansion. Thanks Iztwoz (talk) 11:24, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

@Iztwoz: I have no objection in redirection of Pseudoganglion merging to Ganglion, but I do not feel it justified. The reason is that, although the entire text of Pseudoganglion may be copied into Ganglion in the form of a separate section, but as the information might not be deemed essential for the article Ganglion and may be soon removed by other users who are unaware of the fact. Rest is your decision. DiptanshuTalk 15:15, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
I think it would get a lot more attention on the more accessed ganglion page and see no reason for its future removal - thanks Iztwoz (talk) 15:27, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
@Iztwoz: Fine. Then proceed with the merge and redirection. I have no objections. Thanks for asking for opinion. DiptanshuTalk 18:12, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

Better source[edit]

Can you use a better source for [9] Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 18:23, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

@Jmh649: Yes check.svg Done DiptanshuTalk 05:18, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
Do you have a pubmed indexed source? Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 13:59, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
@Jmh649: Not as of now but I will try to find one. Running a bit busy at the moment. DiptanshuTalk 08:58, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

The Pulse (WP:MED newsletter) June 2014[edit]

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BMJ offering 25 free accounts to Wikipedia medical editors[edit]

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Proposed deletion of Indolent condition[edit]

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Medical Translation Newsletter[edit]


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Medical Translation Newsletter
Issue 1, June/July 2014
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This is the first of a series of newsletters for Wikiproject Medicine's Translation Task Force. Our goal is to make all the medical knowledge on Wikipedia available to the world, in the language of your choice.

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Spotlight - Simplified article translation


Wikiproject Medicine started translating simplified articles in February 2014. We now have 45 simplified articles ready for translation, of which the first on African trypanosomiasis or sleeping sickness has been translated into 46 out of ~100 languages. This list does not include the 33 additional articles that are available in both full and simple versions.

Our goal is to eventually translate 1,000 simplified articles. This includes:

We are looking for subject area leads to both create articles and recruit further editors. We need people with basic medical knowledge who are willing to help out. This includes to write, translate and especially integrate medical articles.

What's happening?


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I've (CFCF) taken on the role of community organizer for this project, and will be working with this until December. The goals and timeline can be found here, and are focused on getting the project on a firm footing and to enable me to work near full-time over the summer, and part-time during the rest of the year. This means I will be available for questions and ideas, and you can best reach me by mail or on my talk page.

Wikimania 2014

For those going to London in a month's time (or those already nearby) there will be at least one event for all medical editors, on Thursday August 7th. See the event page, which also summarizes medicine-related presentations in the main conference. Please pass the word on to your local medical editors.

Integration progress

There has previously been some resistance against translation into certain languages with strong Wikipedia presence, such as Dutch, Polish, and Swedish.
What was found is that thre is hardly any negative opinion about the the project itself; and any such critique has focused on the ways that articles have being integrated. For an article to be usefully translated into a target-Wiki it needs to be properly Wiki-linked, carry proper citations and use the formatting of the chosen target language as well as being properly proof-read. Certain large Wikis such as the Polish and Dutch Wikis have strong traditions of medical content, with their own editorial system, own templates and different ideas about what constitutes a good medical article. For example, there are not MEDRS (Polish,German,Romanian,Persian) guidelines present on other Wikis, and some Wikis have a stronger background of country-specific content.

  • Swedish
    Translation into Swedish has been difficult in part because of the amount of free, high quality sources out there already: patient info, for professionals. The same can be said for English, but has really given us all the more reason to try and create an unbiased and free encyclopedia of medical content. We want Wikipedia to act as an alternative to commercial sources, and preferably a really good one at that.
    Through extensive collaborative work and by respecting links and Sweden specific content the last unintegrated Swedish translation went live in May.
  • Dutch
    Dutch translation carries with it special difficulties, in part due to the premises in which the Dutch Wikipedia is built upon. There is great respect for what previous editors have created, and deleting or replacing old content can be frowned upon. In spite of this there are success stories: Anafylaxie.
  • Polish
    Translation and integration into Polish also comes with its own unique set of challenges. The Polish Wikipedia has long been independent and works very hard to create high quality contentfor Polish audience. Previous translation trouble has lead to use of unique templates with unique formatting, not least among citations. Add to this that the Polish Wikipedia does not allow template redirects and a large body of work is required for each article.
    (This is somewhat alleviated by a commissioned Template bot - to be released). - List of articles for integration
  • Arabic
    The Arabic Wikipedia community has been informed of the efforts to integrate content through both the general talk-page as well as through one of the major Arabic Wikipedia facebook-groups: مجتمع ويكيبيديا العربي, something that has been heralded with great enthusiasm.
Integration guides

Integration is the next step after any translation. Despite this it is by no means trivial, and it comes with its own hardships and challenges. Previously each new integrator has needed to dive into the fray with little help from previous integrations. Therefore we are creating guides for specific Wikis that make integration simple and straightforward, with guides for specific languages, and for integrating on small Wikis.

Instructions on how to integrate an article may be found here [12]

News in short


To come
  • Medical editor census - Medical editors on different Wikis have been without proper means of communication. A preliminary list of projects is available here.
  • Proofreading drives

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Interview for The Signpost[edit]

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Medical Translation Newsletter Aug./Sept. 2014[edit]

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Feature – Ebola articles[edit]

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During August we have translated Disease and it is now live in more than 60 different languages! To help us focus on African languages Rubric has donated a large number of articles in languages we haven't previously reached–so a shout out them, and Ian Henderson from Rubric who's joined us here at Wikipedia. We're very happy for our continued collaboration with both Rubric and Translators without Borders!

Just some of our over 60 translations:
New roles and guides!

At Wikimania there were so many enthusiastic people jumping at the chance to help out the Medical Translation Project, but unfortunately not all of them knew how to get started. That is why we've been spending considerable time writing and improving guides! They are finally live, and you can find them at our home-page!

New sign up page!

We're proud to announce a new sign up page at WP:MTSIGNUP! The old page was getting cluttered and didn't allow you to speficy a role. The new page should be easier to sign up to, and easier to navigate so that we can reach you when you're needed!

Style guides for translations

Translations are of both full articles and shorter articles continues. The process where short articles are chosen for translation hasn't been fully transparent. In the coming months we hope to have a first guide, so that anyone who writes medical or health articles knows how to get their articles to a standard where they can be translated! That's why we're currently working on medical good lede criteria! The idea is to have a similar peer review process to good article nominations, but only for ledes.

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