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Reply to "Clarification"[edit]

I'm replying to "Clarification," which you posted on my talk page at 06:35, 3 December 2014.

As I said to you once before, I understand your distress that everything is not in order, i.e., that I'm not following the rules, as you reasonably say. In fact, I recall telling you, at one point, that I would refrain from Wikipedia editing, simply so you would not be distressed. As time went by, I decided that had been an unnecessary pledge; and as you see, I reneged.

In an effort to eliminate your own distress, you say, on my talk page, that you "have less respect for the rules with every encounter like this." I imagine it pained you to say that, and I myself would say that the rules, in general, are quite good, as I'm sure you, too, think they are. Even so, this situation involving you and me has arisen because the rules are, in my view, not quite complete. They left me no satisfactory way—satisfactory to me, that is—of dealing with the contretemps that culminated in the block. (Without getting into detail, I'll tell you the matter prompted me to send Wikipedia a letter, which, unsurprisingly, went unanswered.)

Since the blocking of my account, my Wikipedia editing—which has been intermittent—has been done through whatever IP has been assigned to me by Verizon, my internet service provider. The IP seems to change from time to time; and in fact, on the talk page of the George Carlin article, you'll see "Big Nothing," a thread I initiated in 2011, when I had an IP different from the one I have now. (In the course of the said thread, I identified myself, by name, as a blocked editor.) Never have I created or used a sock puppet account. (talk) 20:24, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

The block was a very long time ago, and it was a reaction to an editor who was community banned. I have never had anything against you or your editing - it was always just a question of the block. I will not address you in a harsh or negative manner again, and I have no intention of interfering with your editing here. Sorry for any hard feelings! Cheers Doc talk 22:46, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
Yes—I understood that the block was your concern. Because you owe me no apology, I decline the one you've tendered. There are no hard feelings. I'm reminded of an anecdote in an interview of Ernest Lehman, who wrote the movie North by Northwest. During the filming of Somebody Up There Likes Me, which Lehman also scripted, Paul Newman, who had the lead role, of Rocky Graziano, told Lehman there was a line he couldn't say. Lehman, who thought there was nothing wrong with the line, said to Newman something like, "Just say it." Newman repeated that he couldn't say it, and Lehman, who was getting exasperated, as Newman and he went back and forth, was finally shouting something like, "What do you mean you can't say it? Just say it." I'm recounting that from memory; I won't try to see if I can find it on the internet. My point is that you and I were in a similar situation. You were saying, in effect, "What's the problem? Just withdraw the threat." (talk) 08:44, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

Best wishes for a happy holiday season[edit]

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Season's Greetings! This message celebrates the holiday season, promotes WikiLove, and hopefully makes your day a little better. Spread the seasonal good cheer by wishing another user an Awesome Holiday and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone with whom you had disagreements in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Share the good feelings! Joys! Diannaa (talk) 23:46, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
Ditto! Thanks Diannaa! Doc talk 06:23, 26 December 2014 (UTC)


Don't add fuel to the fire please: post elsewhere if you really have to, and don't rell me to fuck off again - I can guarantee I know many more naughty words than you do and I really don't want to have to show off by using them all. Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 09:28, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Do not revert my comments. You have no business doing it. This isn't some closed society, and you are no censor. Stop it. Doc talk 09:29, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
Maybe not, but it is my talk so now I'm asking you to fuck off. CassiantoTalk 09:31, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
Yep, count those words from me too Doc, call it grave dancing, baiting or whatever, just stop it. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 09:34, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
How funny it is that you take issue with an editor telling another to "fuck off" when you pick your spots as you do. Absurd. Doc talk 09:37, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
Yep, generally when I've seen you do it is superfluous, incendiary or wrong. Or all three. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 11:07, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
What's eventually going to bust up the "anti-civility/content creator" cabal is politically incorrect bullshit like Giano spews. "Autistic-like obsession"[1] talk is going to offend a whole bunch of people. You'll see. Cheers. Doc talk 06:18, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
Furthermore, the comment I made towards Giano was to call him out on his blatant ignorance and mischaracterization of autism in the way that he did. Shame on all of you for backing him up by reverting me and disallowing the conversation. He's a very rude editor by choice, and I was speaking in his language. You should not be defending such ignorance, whether from an esteemed content creator or a newbie. Doc talk 07:43, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
Possibly a better word was "obsessional" - it was used in an adjectival sense. I also didn't see that comment of yours and that was not the one I reverted. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 08:11, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
You I quite like and respect. You are very solid. I can't say the same for the others in this thread (especially in matters of "diplomacy"). The civility issue is boiling to a head in general. I hope you all see where the way to proceed lies. Doc talk 08:18, 29 January 2015 (UTC)


I've removed comments from my talk page; this isn't because I disagree with them, I simply prefer a conversation between folks who are not me occur somewhere than doesn't turn the top of my page red every few minutes. NE Ent 12:05, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

It's your talk page. It's better to archive stuff, in general, but I'm not offended if you want to remove my comments on your talk page. Cheers. Doc talk 12:06, 3 February 2015 (UTC)


I think I'd rather you didn't mention me explicitly at a discussion I obviously can't participate in. MaxBrowne (talk) 09:44, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

I am subject to no sort of interaction ban with you. I certainly can, and will, mention you in discussions here on Wikipedia. If you are tempted to violate your IBAN with another user: don't look at me. Doc talk 10:02, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
I prefer no red rags to bulls. MaxBrowne (talk) 10:34, 4 February 2015 (UTC) P.S. I asked nicely. MaxBrowne (talk) 10:50, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

Sunday March 22: Wikipedia Day NYC Celebration and Mini-Conference[edit]

Sunday March 22: Wikipedia Day NYC 2015
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You are invited to join us at Barnard College for Wikipedia Day NYC 2015, a Wikipedia celebration and mini-conference for the project's 14th birthday. In addition to the party, the event will be a participatory unconference, with plenary panels, lightning talks, and of course open space sessions.

We also hope for the participation of our friends from the Free Culture movement and from educational and cultural institutions interested in developing free knowledge projects.

10:00pm - 9:00 pm at Barnard College, 3009 Broadway, by W 118th St

We especially encourage folks to add your 5-minute lightning talks to our roster, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience! Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Pharos (talk) 21:58, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

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