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Hello, Please scan[edit]

I know you are busy and I am sorry to have to ask, but as I know that you have researched the history, please can you check my POV on Talk page South African Republic - You do not have to get involved if you do not want to, please just tell me if in your opinion, I am being neutral or not (obviously I think that i am :) but I do know that you will tell me if you think that I am not...- hence, me asking you, I think we have now a track record of honesty with each other and I have high regard your opinion...) Zarpboer (talk) 10:32, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

Hi Zarpboer, I think you're doing fine, moenie so baie worrie nie! I'll be less active here for a while as I have university exams in October. You can always ask for help or opinions at the wikiproject too. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 12:29, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
thank you! what are you studying? I am also thinking of studying something else, i have a b com, but no interest in using it... wikipedia is very cool! i am learning a lot and i am learning that i am quite a biased person, and i have to be careful whom i ask to balance my bias, cause many other people do not even know they are biased, never mind even considering it... and i know that you are not one of those people as i have seen you change your pov, i think you have seen me change my pov also? kinda cool that, the fact that one can learn and grow as a person, i think it was helenonline that said: that life outside wikipedia should be run on wikipedia culture, did not have a clue what she meant, way back then, all of two weeks ago :) Zarpboer (talk) 12:38, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
Hi again Zarpboer just between you and me, I think our colleague HelenOnline is a formidably competent editor. I'm busy with a BA in Communication Science at Unisa - not easy at my age, I'm 46. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 15:35, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
Thanks, BTW pinging only works if you sign in the same post (I had to use my psychic powers instead). Face-smile.svg HelenOnline 16:08, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
Psychic powers Face-smile.svg hey, old (46) Dude, can you pls give me your 2c on the new structure here: History of South Africahows u're exams? Zarpboer (talk) 10:37, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
One big problem immediately hit me in the face! The section headed "Griquas" is mostly about the Khoi and San, the Griqua people were/are a mixed (Coloured) group with Khoi and white (Trekboer) ancestry. The section heading should be changed to "Khoisan" and the material about the Griqua should be split out and moved to later in the timeline - mid-1700's onwards. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 10:49, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
@HelenOnline what do you think? Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 10:53, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
Sorry Roger, I haven't read the whole article (probably, maybe, ever) and don't want to get sucked into it. I am writing a new article as an antidote to try help pick me up a bit then I will go back to catching up on WLM for which I have missed the deadline partly due to ridiculous protracted editing disputes here. I need to avoid all disputes for a while or I will end up quitting WP altogether. I can only take so much time wasting. Not your fault, sorry for ranting. HelenOnline 11:03, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
Thanks anyway Helen, I too did not read the whole page, I stopped at the first problem I found. My time for Wikiediting is very limited this month due to the abovementioned exams. Sorry Zarpboer, maybe you should post a general request at WikiProject South Africa, it would in any case also be good to have someone other than we "usual suspects" review the page. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 11:21, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
Go well in your exams. Face-smile.svg HelenOnline 11:24, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
Man... ugh okay, did not know that about Griquas, i thought they were a San tribe, thank you so much Dude! - and no, as per the above, a simple nudge from a willing usual suspect, is worth gold. Thank you! - how are your exams? --> HelenOnline hehehe, Face-smile.svg you taught me not to take things so seriously, just relax, take a deep breath and hang in there, am now trying to figure out what a WLM is, seems to be the inverse of a massage? Zarpboer (talk) 11:39, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
Thanks, maybe that is why I am focussing on something humorous for a change. WLM=Wiki Loves Monuments. Face-smile.svg HelenOnline 11:50, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

Deletion of Jaco van Rensburg. Invalid reasons for deletion stated.[edit]

I do not understand your message. I have 4 citations, 2 in which I am mentioned by name. Explain. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jvrensburg (talkcontribs) 10:48, 27 September 2014 (UTC)

Hi Jvrensburg - A mere mention is not sufficient - you need to cite substantial articles that discuss you in considerable depth - articles that are directly about you and your work. Articles about shows you performed in are not adequate if they only mention your name in passing or in a cast list. The source articles must also be published by/in independemt and reliable sources - press releases, your own publicity or the publicity of productions you were involved in are not independent. Review articles by professional journalists in mainstream press are the best sources for actors. I'm afraid it's rather difficult to write an acceptable article about yourself here on Wikipedia. Please see WP:AUTOBIOGRAPHY and WP:PSCOI for some guidance and if you still believe you do qualify for an article you can get further assistance at the WP:TEAHOUSE which is a help desk for beginners. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 11:13, 27 September 2014 (UTC)


Sure. Sounds like red tape to me. Just delete the page. Less admin for everyone. More points for you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jvrensburg (talkcontribs) 11:23, 27 September 2014 (UTC)

Hi Jvrensburg, it seems you're under the impression that Wikipedia is just another social media site, but it's actually an encyclopedia that requires all article subjects to be objectively notable. A site such as Facebook may be more suitable for your needs at this stage. When there are published reviews about yourself and your work we can look at the possibility of an article again. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 06:41, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

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Category:South African military officers Suggestion[edit]

Hi. I have tagged this for deletion. Could you weigh in on the discussion? Gbawden (talk) 10:30, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

I'll take a look. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 10:47, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

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Adolf Fredrik's Music School[edit]

Hi Dodger 67! I was happy to see that the article Adolf Fredrik's Music School has been upgraded to B-class under WikiProject Articles for Creation. However, I have a few questions that you might be able to answer:

  1. Why is the article part of WikiProject Articles for Creation to start with? The article was written mainly in January 2014 and most of the contributors are registered users.
  2. It seems natural that the school should be part of WikiProject Education and/or WikiProject Schools. Why not? How are these things decided?
  3. Is the article far from being rated A-class? Do you have any suggestions as to what I could perhaps do to improve the article?

Klättermusen (talk) 10:17, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

Hi Klättermusen - The article is tagged by WPAFC simply because it was created through the AFC process, tagging it is part of the acceptance procedure. Please don't remove the tag, it help us to keep track of trends over long periods. Adding other relevant Wikiprojects is indeed a good idea, please do so. There's probably a music project that wil also fit, but I don't have any particular expertise in either education or music so I'm really not the right person to advise on this. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 10:41, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

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Wikimedia ZA AGM[edit]

Hi Dodger67, As one of the most active Wikipedians in South Africa I would like to invite you to Wikimedia ZA's annual general meeting on the 1st November 2014. It will be held in Cape Town but you can also join us digitally over Google Hangout if you like. Please let me know if you have any questions.--Discott (talk) 14:53, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

Hi Discott - Thanks. I'll definitely not be able to attend in person, I'll investigate Google Hangout and see if I can manage something. Unfortunately I have very limited bandwidth - I'm on a 3G connection, no ADSL (yet). Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 16:41, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
Sure, do you have a gmail or google + account that I can add you to for the Google Hangout on the day? --Discott (talk) 14:50, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
@Discott you've got mail! Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 15:37, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

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Inappropriate title[edit]

In this edit, why did you leave the inappropriately plural title intact? This sort of thing seems almost universally neglected when people approve articles like this. Michael Hardy (talk) 15:54, 1 November 2014 (UTC)

@Michael Hardy WP:SOFIXIT Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 16:28, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
I fixed this one before commenting here. I've fixed dozens of these new articles whose titles got no attention when they were moved to the article space. Michael Hardy (talk) 02:57, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

Submission declined on grounds of tone of information[edit]

Hello Roger Thanks so much for reviewing my article at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Ranveer_Brar. I went through the article language and structure intensively with a WIKI moderator 'Revent' before re-submitting it. Seems like more needs to be done...Could you pleae help me with an example of where the article appears biased and non-neutral? I can edit that bit accordingly. Moreover, I went through several articles written for other Chefs before putting this one together to get the tone right as much as possible. Is the problem in the Early life and Career sections? Also, wherever I have mentioned an achievement or aard, etc, I have given valid citations and other references. Looking forward to your reply so I can edit the article as soon as possible. Coolkrc (talk) 08:08, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

Hi Coolkrc - It's looking very much better now. Just one style issue that I notice; never use the subject's first name or title after the initial introduction. Don't use the title "chef" throughout the text - once his full name is given and said that he is a chef in the lead, you use only his surname/family name in the rest of the article. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 11:22, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
Roger Hey thanks Roger, OK noted. I'll try edit where possible. Would using the first name be a no-no again? Or will Chef Brar be ok? As using just Ranveer or Brar doesnt sound appropriate.. Coolkrc (talk) 12:04, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
UPDATE - Roger Have further edited repeat reference to his name with pronouns. hope it is OK now. Coolkrc (talk) 12:38, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
Roger Hey there, sorry to bother..could you take a peek at the article again when you can and possibly re-review it? TIA ..Coolkrc (talk) 05:19, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

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DYK for Disability in South Africa[edit]

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10:18:17, 11 November 2014 review of submission by Lilili00[edit]


Lilili00 (talk) 10:18, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

Hi Dodger 67 My wiki article is a translation of the german article https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suma_R%C3%BChrtechnik I thought a translation in other languages would be good because it is the first company which invented an electrical manure mixer. All references are given in the german article. i wanted to link them together after the review. Is it therefore necessary to get more references and so on? If it is accepted in the german wiki? the only references i could find are in german and only texts out of some magazines.

Hi Lilili00 - I have looked at the German article and see that its references are the same as your English draft. The references are all from the company's own website - except where the competitors are mentioned you reference their websites. The problem is that anything published by or on behalf of the subject itself does not help prove that the company is notable. (The German Wikipedia's standard for notability is quite a bit lower than what the English Wikipedia requires). What is really needed are references from independent reliable sources such as newspaper or magazine articles about the company (but not press releases as they are not independent). Look for business news articles in mainstream newspapers or in industry publications such as engineering or agriculture magazines. The company must be a major topic of the articles, not just passing mentions. Please see the specific notability standards for companies for further guidance. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 10:43, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

Diane Kingston[edit]

Many thanks for the additions Roger. I've amended the nee, because in fact it is a former married name. I've made the Mulligan element clearer by adding "formerly" in the intro. I hoe that clarifies things. I'm finding the whole wikipedia thing a little daunting so I'm pleased to have not made too many mistakes! Thank you again for your advice.NMintdev (talk) 12:10, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

@NMintdev If you can find her birth name and whether she was actually born in Barnstaple it would be a very useful addition. The history of her marriages (who and when) and whether she has children, would be perfect for starting a "Personal life" section. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 12:31, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

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Copyright checks when performing AfC reviews[edit]

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09:48:05, 19 November 2014 review of submission by 79.219.103.249[edit]


79.219.103.249 (talk) 09:48, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

Just declining an article without pointing out specific issues is not appropriate.

References have been added to verify statements made in the article. You have to explicitly mention the issues.

You have clearly not read the review posted on the draft - as instructed by the automatic message posted to your talk page. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 07:03, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

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FYI - An-178[edit]

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/ukraine/an-178.htm TW.188.95.211.222 (talk) 11:36, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

I don't know what you want me to do with this? Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 15:12, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Embraer_KC-390&diff=634205121&oldid=634203660 - to be more careful:-)
It was corrected two days ago in this edit - do try to keep up. (BTW please register a username so that you can be contacted properly.) Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 15:45, 25 November 2014 (UTC)
There is no separate article on An-178 at the moment. It is redirection anyway. Meanwhile article on An-148 says that An-178 is a cargo version. So it was useless moves.

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South African Defence Review 2012[edit]

User:Nathan121212, User:Gbawden, User:BoonDock, User:HelenOnline, User:Darren Olivier, User:htonl - I have just moved South African Defence Review 2012 to mainspace - please feel free to improve it - it's still a bit rough in places.Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 07:16, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

Thank you. Nice one! BoonDock (talk) 07:46, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

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