User talk:Donald Albury

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All of Florida does not have a tropical climate

Have you read the article? Most of Florida has a humid subtropical climate, while South Florida has a tropical climate.

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Thanks

Thanks for adding to Textile arts of indigenous peoples of the Americas. These broad, survey articles are overwhelming but we need more of them. Cheers, -Uyvsdi (talk) 18:29, 11 January 2012 (UTC)Uyvsdi

My ability to contribute to broad articles is limited, as my rather haphazard reading is about Florida, and to a lesser extent, the southeastern U.S. and the Caribbean. I do like to add details that help illustrate the complexity of the history of people in the Americas. -- Donald Albury 23:31, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

Part of our goal at the Wikifriends of Viva Florida 500 is to add more hidden information from the writings of early explorers about these indigenous tribes. A research project is planned to the archives in Seville Spain where students trained to read ancient Spanish documents will discover more them. My hope is that after they get this information they will share it with the Wikipedia community.--Ourhistory153 (talk) 14:31, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

Your input is needed on the SOPA initiative

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Deleting the WikiFriends of Viva Florida 500?

This is my rebuttal to your call to delete this project.

That is not the entire picture. I'm working with Viva Florida members who are archivists and history professors. One of which is Dr. Francis of UNF who is sending 4 students to Seville Spain on a research project. We will be obtaining new information on ancient topics and updating Florida history articles here at Wikipedia of which this Wiki Project is the Landing page for their members. As I mentioned in the beginning, this project is not so much about promoting Viva Florida 500 to the Wikipedia community, as it is about promoting Wikipedia to Viva Florida 500 members. And frankly you need more accuracy in many of the Florida History articles, as there is many errors and need for embellishment. If you pull the plug on this project then I will pull the plug with promoting Wikipedia to Viva Florida 500. Let me know ASAP, as I have a conference call coming up with Viva Florida 500 with close to a hundred historians and archivists around the state of Florida, and there will be no need to promote this project if there is no page for it.--Ourhistory153 (talk) 14:20, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

Please take discussion of the deletion proposal to Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Viva Florida 500 WP to allow the broadest possible participation. -- Donald Albury 14:31, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

Also you may want to note Mr. Danbury that I posted an inquiry back in Sept 2011 Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Florida about this project. I do all this work to it and you now want to delete it! I'm an author and a historian and I have better things to do with my time.--Ourhistory153 (talk) 14:44, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

Killian high graduation rate is subpar

Well Mr. Donald. Have you reviewed the cited source? Do you know the purpose of statistics especially when they are cited and verified by a cited source?

Statewideflorida touts a 95% graduation rate and Killian High(probably your old school) touts a substantiated 92% graduation rate. That is 3 full percentage points below the state average. When an average has been calculated and one of the participants has an average that is below the overall average that means that the average is drawn and pulled down by the subpar participant in the statistic population.

So, that brings me to my question...why do you insist on reverting edits that are 1) constructive 2) cited and verifiable 3) within Wikipedia's policy of NPOV and finally 4) why do you choose NOT to use the talk page and insist on reverting it until the cows come home?

Please address these questions and be constructive and a little open minded in your applying the rules and guildelines of Wikipedia.

Have a nice day.65.8.148.43 (talk) 19:32, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I read the cited source. I did not see in the source where it said that Killian pulled down either the district's or the state's average. Any such conclusion that you may have drawn from the cited source is original research on your part, which is not allowed in Wikipedia articles. In fact, though, I see only the statewide and district graduation rates in that article, and nothing about Killian's graduation rate. -- Donald Albury 19:56, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

DRV

A notification that the Templates for Discussion discussion (oy, repetition) has been taken to a deletion review discussion. The Article Rescue Squadron was notified, and as notifications to previous involved parties isn't normal practise, I and a few ARS members agreed that, in the interests of transparency and fairness, we should let everyone know...hence this talkpage message ;).

If anyone has an issue with me sending these out, do drop me a note on my talkpage. Regards, Ironholds (talk) 10:24, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

MFD

Please read the talk page at Wikipedia talk:Viva Florida 500 WP. Ourhistory has, not understanding how we work, removed the MfD notice. I'd appreciate it if you'd drop the MfD because I see no need for it anymore, as there is agreement on:"What I'd like to suggest has been suggested by someone else - keep this as a project but make it a subproject of Wikiproject Florida. Keep the current page but make it a redirect to the subproject. That way any links will still work, and the name is kept. I really think that is the best solution and shouldn't make any of the five months work lost in any way. I wish that this had been proposed earlier, particularly before any attempt to delete anything" Two editors including myself have proposed this, and OurHistory has agreed. Dougweller (talk) 18:33, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

He certainly does not understand how we work. It was this edit that led me to see the notice at the top of this page that attracted my attention to the project. I don't think that the project has benefited WP, but I will ignore it and him and let others enlighten him on the Manual of Style and related issues. -- Donald Albury 19:43, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. I've posted to him about the MOS, etc. And I didn't understand how Wikipedia worked when I started, so I can sympathise with others who don't. Dougweller (talk) 20:58, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

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Wikimedia Stories Project

Aloha!

My name is Victor and I work with the Wikimedia Foundation, the non-profit organization that supports Wikipedia. We're chronicling the inspiring stories of the Wikipedia community around the world, including those from readers, editors, and donors. Stories are absolutely essential for any non-profit to persuade new people to support the cause, and we know the vast network of people who use Wikipedia have so much to share.

I find stories that drive our annual fundraising efforts. It's important to convey the incredible diversity of people who've come to rely upon Wikipedia every day.

I'd really like the opportunity to interview you to tell your story, with the possibility of using it in our materials, on our community websites, or as part of this year’s fundraiser to encourage others to support Wikipedia.

I'm hoping you will elaborate on your story with me, either over the phone, by Skype, by facebook, by email, or any means you like. Please let me know if you're inclined to take part in the Wikipedia Stories Project and we'll set up a good time to discuss further.

Thank you,

Victor Grigas

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vgrigas@wikimedia.org Victor Grigas (talk) 22:21, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

The Shivers (New York City)

I'm sure it's crossed your mind, considering the nature of the material that was added to and deleted from this article, that User:Trizzat may be the same person as User:Shiversnyc. Why they would need to sock I don't know, considering that you unblocked Shiversnyc a couple of weeks ago, but the material Trizzat added was virtually identical to the stuff that Shiversnyc had in the article when that editor tried to usurp the original "The Shivers" article.

Do you think a warning about WP socking poicy might be in order? Beyond My Ken (talk) 01:35, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

I did assume it was the same person, or someone associated with him. I did advise Shiversync to choose another name, but Trizzat had 3 edits back in October (2 or which have been deleted). Yeah, I guess a warning is in order. -- Donald Albury 01:52, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

They're also using an IP to insert their legal claim [1]. Beyond My Ken (talk) 04:15, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

User talk:Shiversnyc

Hi Donald,

You may want to look into this edit and reblock the account and underlying IP. It does not seem as though they have heeded the warnings regarding the topic of legal trademarks nor their COI. N^oformation ^Talk 06:13, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Just FYI, Noformation is referring to the same edit I referred to in my last edit in the thread just above this one. I've put a non-templated message about socking on the user talk pages of the IP, Shiversnyc and Trizzat. I do think they've had sufficient warning now that their legal claims cannot go into the article that thought should be given to blocking all three, since there seems to be a case of WP:IDHT going on. Donald's unblocking of Shiversnyc presented that editor with the opportunity to contribute to the article in a positive way, but they clearly chose to keep on in the manner which got them blocked in the first place. Beyond My Ken (talk) 06:29, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Ah didn't your edit. I'm on the side of blocking. At best they're an SPA with no intention of contributing to wikipedia and at worst they're disruptive. Considering the total lack of heeding any advice (including content advice) I don't have much faith. I'm curious about the page too, I don't know music notability standards that well, is this a band that's notable enough to have a page in the first place? At times I felt like we were cutting them a lot of slack simple so as not to WP:BITE N^oformation ^Talk 08:25, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Well, I generally have inclusionist tendencies, so I'm not personally inclined to AfD the article, although I can certainly see how other editors might feel differently. It may be that the one article in the Guardian -- which really is specifically about the band's one single -- could well be sufficient to pass our notability requirements. Popular music is full of "one hit wonders" that add significantly to the musical zeitgeist and I don't think we should neglect them simply because they haven't manage to have a apectacular career in music. (Having been involved with a very talented songwriter who was never able to break through, I'm sympathetic to the difficulties of making that happen.) Beyond My Ken (talk) 09:01, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Fair enough, like I said I'm not too familiar with the music side of Wikipedia, mostly the science stuff for me. I interned for a woman in the early 2000s who had written songs for Bett Middler, Barbara Streisand, etc, and even she doesn't have an article so I can certainly share that sympathy. N^oformation ^Talk 09:04, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Perhaps she should have an article. What is her name? Beyond My Ken (talk) 09:07, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

		The Good Article Barnstar
		Thanks Donald Albury for helping to promote Lhasa de Sela to Good Article status. Please accept this little sign of appreciation and goodwill from me, because you deserve it. Keep it up, and give someone a pat on the back today. --Sp33dyphil ©hatontributions 06:57, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

I've only made 4 edits to the article in the past 3 1/2 years. Most of my edits were 5 to 6 years ago. It's nice to see an article I've worked on reach GA, but my contribution was mainly in helping to build a sourced and neutral short article. -- Donald Albury 11:49, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Well, this barnstar has to have an owner, and it's not me ;) --Sp33dyphil ©^hat_ontributions 10:13, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

Request to act as Mentor for HG252: Langauge, Technology and the Internet

G'day,

I would like to ask you to act as a mentor for our class project on Language, Technology and the Internet. Over the next 6 or so weeks, 13 groups of 3 students will propose a topic, write, edit, and maintain a page about it. The aim is for all articles to reach the level of good articles, although not necessarily within the time-span of the class.

We would appreciate your support,

Francis Bond (talk) 15:19, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

What kind of support are you looking for? I do not feel competent to help with content. I can help with the mechanics of editing and with understanding Wikipedia policies and guidelines. I also may not always have a lot of time to devote to the class. -- Donald Albury 02:13, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

References

Thanks. I agree, spending lots of time and working hard to do this. If you see one of my posts and it needs help, let me know.Deansmith750 (talk) 01:30, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

MSU Interview

Dear Donald,

My name is Jonathan Obar user:Jaobar, I'm a professor in the College of Communication Arts and Sciences at Michigan State University and a Teaching Fellow with the Wikimedia Foundation's Education Program. This semester I've been running a little experiment at MSU, a class where we teach students about becoming Wikipedia administrators. Not a lot is known about your community, and our students (who are fascinated by wiki-culture by the way!) want to learn how you do what you do, and why you do it. A while back I proposed this idea (the class) to the community HERE, were it was met mainly with positive feedback. Anyhow, I'd like my students to speak with a few administrators to get a sense of admin experiences, training, motivations, likes, dislikes, etc. We were wondering if you'd be interested in speaking with one of our students.

So a few things about the interviews:

• Interviews will last between 15 and 30 minutes.
• Interviews can be conducted over skype (preferred), IRC or email. (You choose the form of communication based upon your comfort level, time, etc.)
• All interviews will be completely anonymous, meaning that you (real name and/or pseudonym) will never be identified in any of our materials, unless you give the interviewer permission to do so.
• All interviews will be completely voluntary. You are under no obligation to say yes to an interview, and can say no and stop or leave the interview at any time.
• The entire interview process is being overseen by MSU's institutional review board (ethics review). This means that all questions have been approved by the university and all students have been trained how to conduct interviews ethically and properly.

Bottom line is that we really need your help, and would really appreciate the opportunity to speak with you. If interested, please send me an email at obar@msu.edu (to maintain anonymity) and I will add your name to my offline contact list. If you feel comfortable doing so, you can post your name HERE instead.

If you have questions or concerns at any time, feel free to email me at obar@msu.edu. I will be more than happy to speak with you.

Thanks in advance for your help. We have a lot to learn from you.

Sincerely,

Jonathan Obar --Jaobar (talk) 05:46, 9 February 2012 (UTC)