User talk:Doncsecz

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I've removed the Prekmurian language - what is published in popular magazines is not a reliable source. You have to provide references that have been published in peer reviewed sources. --Eleassar ^{my talk} 12:42, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

I'm using English because it is about the content of an article in English and I want the conversation to be available to other editors too. (Pišem v angleščini, ker gre za članek v angleščini, zato želim, da lahko prebere vsakdo.) --Eleassar ^{my talk} 12:47, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

I understand your point about Večer and Feri Lainšček getting the Prešeren Award. However, what counts as a reliable source in linguistics and any other science is only an article published in a peer-reviewed journal. "Where available, academic and peer-reviewed publications are usually the most reliable sources, such as in history, medicine, and science."[1] I have no doubt it's easy to find peer-reviewed articles treating Prekmurian in language, but it's up to you to provide peer-reviewed articles discussing Prekmurian as a language. Per Wikipedia:Verifiability, anything that requires but lacks a source may be removed. --Eleassar ^{my talk} 13:01, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Oprosti, ampak to ni tako. Čeprav zdaj ne najdem tiste strani, kjer je Toporišič menil o prekmurščini, ampak Vilko Novak tudi veš da je znan znanstvenik je bil, in zelo zadeven Prekmurec. On javno ni napisal, ampak sem slišal o njem, da je privezan bil tudi prekmurščini. Zinka Zorko in drugi tudi so napisali, da je prekmurščina ni vsakdanašnjo narečje. Doncsecz^talk 13:05, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Ampak ne razveljavi vse, kaj sem napisal! Ne morem tak hitro virov najdti. Doncsecz^talk 13:42, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Kot sem rekel, ne zanima nas, kaj je res, ampak samo poročamo o tem, kar je bilo objavljeno. Tvoje mnenje je zelo zanimivo, vendar ga najprej objavi v ugledni reviji, da ga bomo lahko uporabili in citirali kot zanesljiv vir. --Eleassar ^{my talk} 16:22, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. Users who edit disruptively or refuse to collaborate with others may be blocked if they continue. In particular the three-revert rule states that making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24-hour period is almost always grounds for an immediate block. If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the talk page to discuss controversial changes. Work towards wording and content that gains consensus among editors. If unsuccessful, then do not edit war even if you believe you are right. Post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If edit warring continues, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. --Eleassar ^{my talk} 14:24, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

Ok, Doncsecz, it seems there is no consensus about the inclusion of 'Prekmurian' in the article Languages of Slovenia (see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Slovenia#Languages of Slovenia) and at least four(!) editors (Doremo, Mhus, 89.212.243.255 and me) find it does not belong there. I suggest you show some good faith, remove the section from the article, and try to build consensus for its inclusion first by using dispute resolution processes, or I'll have to report you for disregarding the 3 reverts rule and for tendentious editing. --Eleassar ^{my talk} 15:11, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

Enough is enough. I've reported you at WP:ANEW.[2] --Eleassar ^{my talk} 21:32, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

In a 2007 arbitration case, administrators were given the power to impose discretionary sanctions on any user working on articles concerning the Balkans. Before any such sanctions are imposed, editors are to be put on notice of the decision. This notice is not to be taken as implying any inappropriate behaviour on your part, merely to warn you of the Arbitration Committee's decision. Thank you. Magog the Ogre (talk) 09:57, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks the warning. Doncsecz^talk 10:16, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

Please stop slandering me (or other editors)

Your comments in both English and Slovenian are unsupported ad hominem attacks: “Doremo ... be a stranger this informations”, [[3]] “you beforehand disbelieve” [[4]], “Doremo pa veliko stvari ne pozna” [[5]], and perhaps even racist: “Doremo moreover is not Slovene” [[6]]. Please engage in civil discourse on WP.Doremo (talk) 17:08, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

And you, on end query this informations with disused sources. No got it, that here formerly just in rascist- and communistic-wise abuse the Prekmurian? Now other things exist. In my country and in the Prekmurje in 1950s the Communists prohibit the Prekmurian. Vilko Novak in 1956 in Felsőszölnök deliver a speech in Prekmurian and in Yugosalvia the Communists suspect Novak. Doncsecz^talk 17:16, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Please stop insulting WP editors

Your comments referring to other editors as "dunce person" ([[7]]) and that they "scores cock" (whatever that means, it certainly sounds vulgar) are not civil. Please review Wikipedia:Etiquette and help contribute to consensus-based changes in a positive and constructive atmosphere. Doremo (talk) 16:26, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Prekmurje dialect template

I'm not really involved with the Prekmurje dialect article, but an Afd template is requesting total deletion of the article which does not appear to be appropriate since it is well developed, extensively cited, long standing, and exists in other versions on quite a few other language wikipedias (36 others by my count). My recommendation is to continue to engage other interested editors on the Prekmurje dialect talk page with your concerns. --Quartermaster (talk) 17:14, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

re:Hungarian Ostern

Hi. 1) The English is terrible, 2) It doesn't make sense and 3) it's completly unsourced. Lugnuts (talk) 18:24, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

Please stop insulting editors

You latest comment ("do not write stupid!") is insulting. Please find another way to interact with editors on Wikipedia. Doremo (talk) 08:13, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Slovene dialects

I deleted the text because 1) it is inaccurate (claiming that the Prekmurje dialect is the only dialect in which dialect texts are produced), 2) it gives undue weight to one item in an otherwise simple list, and 3) it is written in very poor English. I suggest that you delete your addition and instead seek consensus from other editors on whether it should be included in the article. Doremo (talk) 09:00, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Ferenc Marics

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Speedy deletion nomination of Ferenc Marics

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August 2011

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don't worry about it too much, it was a totally inappropriate nomination nomination for deletion.

As reviewing administrator, I removed the tag, and commented on User talk:Rabbitfang. We cover the entire world equally, and I encourage you as strongly as I can to continue to translate articles from other Wikipedias that are missing here. We need more people to do this. DGG ( talk ) 12:52, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Branko Pintarič

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Removal of speedy deletion templates

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Nomination of Branko Pintarič for deletion

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September 2011

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Slovene dialects. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Please be particularly aware, Wikipedia's policy on edit warring states:

1. Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made; that is to say, editors are not automatically "entitled" to three reverts.
2. Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. VQuakr (talk) 06:28, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

Your post at WT:SLO

There are several problems with this edit that I hope you will be able to avoid repeating. Please re-read WP:CIVIL, and note that communications on talk pages should be in English. Also please note that this request was posted at the suggestion of an uninvolved editor responding to a WP:3O request: [8]. Thanks! VQuakr (talk) 07:27, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

Request for arbitration clarification

A request for arbitration clarification involving you has been filed at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Clarification#Request_for_clarification:_WP:DIGWUREN_or_WP:ARBMAC. Regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 21:02, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

Typical terms

Prekmurian is a possible formation (as are Burgenlandian, Vorarlbergian, Tuscanian, Kordunian, etc.). Nonetheless, it is less typical in the literature on the topic. Wikipedia must rely on typical usage. This may help you: "The term most typically used in reliable sources is preferred to technically correct but rarer forms". Doremo (talk) 12:00, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

Typical usage should be followed, regardless of individual instances of variant names. Please review Common names. Doremo (talk) 12:25, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

Then Slovenian Wikipedia should use the word prekmurščina. That's OK with me; I don't contribute to Slovenian WP. Doremo (talk) 12:36, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

I do not understand your last comment. Doremo (talk) 13:21, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

Reply to latest comment

Wikipedia must rely on typical usage. This may help you: "The term most typically used in reliable sources is preferred to technically correct but rarer forms". Typical usage should be followed, regardless of individual instances of variant names. Please review Common names. Doremo (talk) 16:01, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

Međimurje

You falsely claimed that the form Medmürska žüpanija is attested in Slovar stare knjižne prekmurščine, page 241. It is not. That is why it was removed. Doremo (talk) 10:18, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

As I've already said, the form Medmürska žüpanija is not attested in Slovar stare knjižne prekmurščine. If you can cite an authentic source for the term, that's OK. WP requires reliable sources. Doremo (talk) 10:31, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

Your post at Talk:Prekmurje dialect

Please refrain from making talk page edits like this. WP Talk page guidelines state that "The basic rule ... is that you should not edit or delete the comments of other editors without their permission." Doremo (talk) 06:16, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

Many things are nonsense. Nonetheless, WP policy is not to delete the comments of other editors on talk pages. Doremo (talk) 08:13, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

Moravian language

As a native speaker of Moravian, I'm glad to see it having its own article also at this Wikipedia. The article is, nonetheless, written in a very poor English. I would like to improve it, but sometimes it's really hard to understand what it should actually mean – that's why I prefer rewriting it from scratch.

As for the article by Zbyšek Šustek, I suggest not to rely on the information stated therein. It has received a very negative review and, honestly, I don't find it very serious either. In order to preserve the quality of ‘our’ article, let's be pickier about the sources we base on. Kind regards, Määriläinen (talk) 18:01, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

Hello, I replied at my talk page. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 14:48, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

I replied at Talk:Moravia#Moravia_and_the_Moravian_language. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 15:20, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Slovene dialects: please revert your change and discuss it first on the talk page

Your recent edit at Slovene dialects has damaged the markup for the note format, as I noted in my earlier revision. The page cannot remain like this. In any case, the note was a compromise solution helpfully provided by User:Yerpo on 15 September 2011 to resolve a dispute. Because the point was previously an object of dispute, it would be appropriate for you to revert your change (including your deletion of the English-language source and replacement with a Hungarian-language source) and to discuss it first on the talk page. This will help achieve consensus on whether your change is a constructive addition to the article. Doremo (talk) 15:39, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

December 2011

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Slovene dialects. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

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Edit warring: warning

Your recent editing history shows that you are in danger of breaking the three-revert rule, or that you may have already broken it. An editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Breaking the three-revert rule often leads to a block.

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You have been reported at Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Edit_warring#User:Doncsecz_reported_by_Eleassar_my_talk_.28Result:_.29 --Eleassar ^{my talk} 12:25, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

January 2012

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 2 weeks for failure to adhere to WP:NPOV by editorialising in articles and edit-warring to reinstate it. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you would like to be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding the text {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}, but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 13:11, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

I not accept to this blocked. This was not edit war, this graffitys was provocations in 2009 in Murska Sobota. Doncsecz^talk 13:15, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

This blocked user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy). Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

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Request reason:

Admin HJ Mitchell me blocked with an expiry time 2 weeks, but not examine my case in the article Republic of Prekmurje, about a graffity, which was a provocation in 2009. Moreover a new user vandalised my personal user page and placed the template: You have been temporarily blocked from editing Wikipedia as a result of your disruptive edits. Please my unblocked! Copied from unblock-en-l due to a backlog. -- DQ (ʞlɐʇ) 12:32 pm, Today (UTC−5)

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