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Do not show me what else to write about my country Kosovo OK wikipedia Kosovo is filled with lies by Serbs byee from Peninsula Illyrians Ps. Sorry for bad english ;) — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheBloodyAlboz05 (talkcontribs) 08:27, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

Ok. I won't. No problem with the English btw. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 09:23, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

Talk:2014 Hong Kong protests#Requested move[edit]

Some editor is committing ownership and is accusing me of doing "ad hominem" attacks. Also, he told me not to come back. You're an administrator, right? If so, can you do something about this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by George Ho (talkcontribs)

@George Ho: Hi George. I was visiting ANI on unrelated business and I happened to see that the topic of the HK protests renaming had already moved there. From a cursory reading of the exchange I can see that you and the other editor are well on your way to resolving this matter. So I don't think that my advice is needed any longer. On the other hand, instead of offering any advice, I would just observe that amongst difficult topic areas on Wikipedia, AfD and contested move request discussions seem to bring out the worst in people. That's why I participate in those areas, only if I must. Any other time, I avoid them like, to use an old cliché, the plague. I'm not sure if you feel the same way, but if I had any advice for you, it would be to avoid this area as much as you can. In any case, don't hesitate to contact me if any other problems arise. And no, I'm not an admin. Take care. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 05:50, 1 November 2014 (UTC)

Please join in![edit]

If you're a frequent editor of kpop articles, feel free to join a new discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Korea/Popular culture. We're trying to discuss consistency, redundancy, over-fannishness, and other issues. BTW, your photos are gorgeous! :) Shinyang-i (talk) 20:48, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

Thank you very much Shinyang-i for your kind invitation and also for your nice remark about my pictures. I may join the conversation, but I am glad to see now that editors like yourself, Random86 and TerryAlex are knowledgeable and capable of addressing these widespread problems present in these articles. All three of you have my confidence and I agree and support your actions. I will make my opinion known if there is a need for it. But, seeing so many capable new editors in this area, whose actions I respect, makes me feel relaxed enough to say that I can live with whatever you decide.

After so many years of edit-warring conflict in this area and countless sockpuppet investigations, seeing new editors like you and the others get seriously involved in cleaning up these articles, makes me feel like my job is done, at least as far as K-pop is concerned. Aside from some veteran editors in that area like my friend Drmies and some great admin support whenever there was a need to protect an article, run an SPI, or block a sock, there were not many editors to provide support on the ground, at least in the early years. Thankfully this has changed. Certainly I will keep an eye on developments to provide my support if needed, and of course I will watch out for the ever-present socks. Regardless, if you think my input would be useful on a given issue please let me know. Take care. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 21:39, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

Random86Shinyang-iCan you provide an opinion on A Pink and Crayon Pop, Dr.K? Random86 and I desperately wanted that discussion to end, but it's so hard to change the K pop articles' mentality.--TerryAlex (talk) 21:50, 20 December 2014 (UTC)
Even after Drmies's comments, not all editors were able to realize the true underlying problem of K-pop-related articles.--TerryAlex (talk) 21:56, 20 December 2014 (UTC)
I feel like if we give in, more and more unnecessary details will keep on piling up to these K-pop articles and they will never end. And that is what we definitely don't want. We need to reset the standards, no matter how late, otherwise, the problem can never get better. Merry Christmas to you, Dr.K.--TerryAlex (talk) 22:20, 20 December 2014 (UTC)
I agree that there is a lot of non-notable fluff that has to be removed. I support your removals and those of Shinyang-i and Random86 and your rationales for doing so. I also see that you have encountered some resistance but let's see how the centralised discussion goes. I'm going to check the discussion at A Pink and try to see how I can help. As far as Crayon Pop I checked the foreign-language sources and they look like tabloids to me but since they are foreign I'm not sure what they are. Please let me know how good they are. Take care and Merry Christmas to you too. :) Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 08:54, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

If we can settle the current issue with Crayon Pop, then A Pink should be fine as well. Here are two roughly English translations for Crayon Pop, Doc. Similar outfits, tell me if it is such a big deal. The original band was even being accused once too. I read some Soompi's comments and most people don't care either. 1st article Soompi's article --TerryAlex (talk) 09:21, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

For the two incidents being discussed at Talk:Crayon Pop#Momoiro Clover Z, Google seems to indicate that Rocket News and Cyzo Woman are tabloids. I don't know about Newsen, but it looks ok. JoongAng Ilbo is a reliable source (used for the second incident). The question we are trying to answer is this: Are accusations automatically notable if reliable sources publish articles about it? Thanks for your help, Dr. K. --Random86 (talk) 09:29, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

That's a good question Random86 and also difficult to answer because it depends on many factors. One factor is the breadth of coverage, another is the importance of the subject matter. Coverage by a few serious sources may be not be enough for inclusion if the matter is trivial. So we have to decide, is this matter trivial? To answer this question, I read the two articles TerryAlex gave me and I just can't believe that people spend their time on superficial nonsense like this. Perhaps the image people for these groups have run out of ideas for the design of the group uniforms and the fans have nothing better to do but complain about the clothes the musicians wear. I just can't believe this stuff. The group members getting dressed like Christmas trees and people complaining that they look alike. Does this superficial fluff belong in an encyclopedia? I would say not, at least not in a serious one, even if it got picked up by a few serious sources. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 10:12, 21 December 2014 (UTC)
@Random86: That's a good question Random86 and also difficult to answer because it depends on many factors. Yes Doc, there is "an exception" to everything, but let me tell you what, 99% of the cases with K-pop is exactly the "nonsense" stuff that you just read. That is why Random86 and I have been arguing that "anything that comes out of the netizens should just be omitted".--TerryAlex (talk) 16:23, 21 December 2014 (UTC)
K-pop fans just think all K-pop artists are gods and everything, even a piece of dust about them, should be included on here. There is a separate article for every single endorsement deal List of Girls' Generation endorsements (and some users even told me that this is encyclopedic and they can use this for their research), their awards article is longer than "The Beatles"'s too. And have you read my recent talk page's discussion? People still argue with me on why I took out the MV section on the page. --TerryAlex (talk) 17:00, 21 December 2014 (UTC)
I'm going to take a look again at that discussion to get a better idea of what's involved but I need a bit of time. I'll let you know. Take care. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 19:00, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

Bad beginnings[edit]

Hey Dr.K.,

I think we had got off to a bad start (several times). I apologise for my behaviour towards you and on specific articles. I thought you were like the other editors, but you aren't, you are, at least, willing to compromise. Anyway I am writing this to apologise for my past behaviour and rudeness and hopefully relations can be normalised. It is holiday season. If you don't mind telling, what kind of doctor are you or is that just your username?

Kala Christougenna, Luxure Σ 07:11, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

Thank you very much Luxure for your nice words. It's no problem. For me the bad beginnings you refer to is just water under the bridge. It is normal in that area for editors to sometimes come into conflict with each other, so misunderstandings happen frequently. What saves us at the end of the day is seeing the other person/editor under the light of AGF. So thank you for that and you have also my apology if I ever spoke to you strongly. My username is the nickname my students have given me because of my Ph.D. degree in Engineering. I was surprised at first when they started calling me that, but, on reflection, I thought it sounded nice and I adopted it. G'day, Merry Christmas, and Happy New Year Down Under. Take care. :) Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 17:26, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

I edited your link[edit], I think that is a better way to direct people to the discussion, but i can understand why you want a permanent link, feel free to revert me if you feel permanence is more important than proper direction. CombatWombat42 (talk) 20:23, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

Yes, I know. Thank you for letting me know. I thought about that, given that when the link gets archived it is a hassle to locate it. But there is also an argument to be made about navigating to the current version. Since you think it's better I will not change it. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 20:31, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
Yeah, it would be really nice if you one could do both. CombatWombat42 (talk) 20:33, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
Perhaps next time I will include both links. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 20:40, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
I meant it would be cool if wikipdia had a way to link to a section that followed archives, that would be a neat feature. CombatWombat42 (talk) 23:04, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
Yes, I got that much. No worries. :) I knew you were talking in general and the personal pronoun "you" in your message did not refer to me. But since the software doesn't have the feature I did it manually, since I found the idea to be good. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 00:57, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

Wrong notification[edit]


You left me a message here [[1]] for edit warring, despite I have only reverted it once. So that's wrong.

- (talk) 23:43, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

Considering that in your edit-summary you mention: 3rd time reverting sourced, useful additions without a clear reason., I took your word for it. In addition you are edit-warring across many articles, so that's disruptive and you will do well to heed the 3RR warning in any event. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 01:15, 25 December 2014 (UTC)
Hello. I wrote that because User:Alexikoua started a reverting spree of large amounts of large edits I had made based on petty reasons (e.g, subsection titles I made, nitpicking over one-two words, sometimes he just reverted without even writing something, calling everything "disruptive IP edit") on 2 articles before I wrote that. Hence it was the 3rd time. Now I wonder, is it more disruptive to constantly revert someone's large sourced edits on multiple articles of the same topic based on the reasons I gave above, basically ruining all his work based on one or two words which could possibly be incorrect or not precisely formulated, or your claim that I am supposedly "edit warring" across "many articles" due to his reverts, with a notification you just sent me which isn't even correct per the policy to start with? (as I reverted it once) I might have made a mistake with writing that as a description in my edit summary, but still, I'd expect a more careful approach if I was given the power to give people warnings and such. If anyone is being disruptive here per the description of the scenaria I gave it's Alexikoua. Just saying ;) Anyway thanks for the warning to be cautious. A Merry Christmas btw! - (talk) 03:07, 25 December 2014 (UTC)
I'd expect a more careful approach if I was given the power to give people warnings and such: No-one gave me the power to give warnings, everyone has that "power", including you. You are adding similar information across multiple Greece-related articles which causes content problems and is being reverted for valid reasons. Instead of starting large-scale edit-warring across multiple articles you should discuss on the talkpage of the article, before you readd this information. The warning about edit-warring that I gave you has the right information for you to consider given that you were reverting, but you reverted it, which is not a good sign. If you had read it, instead of reverting it, you would have seen that to be blocked for edit-warring you don't need to break the 3-revert rule but only to indicate that you intended to keep edit-warring. Since your edit-warring was large-scale, which meant that you intended to edit-war, and also since your edit-summary referred to three reverts, which meant that you didn't know about the three revert rule, I gave you the standard 3RR message to inform you about it. It is up to you now to consider your edit-warring options. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 04:21, 25 December 2014 (UTC)
Just informing you that is long term abuser and a banned user, see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Beh-nam/Archive, you can remove this section if you like. Bladesmulti (talk) 22:43, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
I knew something was up with this user and my suspicions grew when he changed the 300 Spartans to "several few thousands". Thank you Bladesmulti for letting me know. Take care. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 22:50, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

Best wishes for a happy holiday season[edit]

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Season's Greetings! This message celebrates the holiday season, promotes WikiLove, and hopefully makes your day a little better. Spread the seasonal good cheer by wishing another user an Awesome Holiday and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone with whom you had disagreements in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Share the good feelings! Joys! Diannaa (talk) 23:47, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
@Diannaa: Thank you very much Dianna for the beautiful message. I was preparing to give you one also, but you beat me to that. :) Merry Christmas and Happy New year to you too. Take care. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 00:02, 25 December 2014 (UTC)
Hey, merry Christmas to the both of you. Y'all are valuable contributors and good colleagues. Drmies (talk) 00:04, 25 December 2014 (UTC)
@Drmies: To you too Doc. All the Best of the Season. Always nice talking to you. :) Take care. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 00:11, 25 December 2014 (UTC)
Thank you Dr Mies. Best wishes for the holidays! -- Diannaa (talk) 05:39, 25 December 2014 (UTC)
I see "the Dr. K" and Dr. Mies are in; well have a good relaxing Christmas time holiday and take care. Cheers, Kierzek (talk) 15:40, 25 December 2014 (UTC)
LOL, I guess I am in. Technically speaking, Drmies just paid a brief visit. :) Thank you very much Kierzek for the humorous moment, and for your kind wishes. Have a wonderful Christmas and a Happy New Year! Cheers. :) Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 17:10, 25 December 2014 (UTC)


This is the one and only article I plan to write (Church of the Creator) and I believe it was deleted in error -- possibly because the editor didn't bother to even read it.

I don't want to be involved in a "war," but I was told a year ago to write an article about the church so that the redirect could be changed, and now that I've done so, it gets deleted? That's not OK.

Forget the article. I won't touch it again (unless I can get the church leaders to authorize use of their written material).

Bohemian Gal (talk) 06:22, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

Incorrect Redirect[edit]

Since you won't allow my article, how's about changing the INCORRECT redirect that says "church of the creator" is the creativity movement. IT'S NOT, and the Supreme Court has ruled that the white supremacist group may not use the name Church of the Creator in any form.

This page: is NOT AFFILIATED WITH the Church of the Creator, but this is the page you get when you type in that search phrase.

If you guys would do that, the article wouldn't be necessary. I was simply doing what I told to do back in January to get this egregious error corrected.

Bohemian Gal (talk) 06:27, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

A second incorrect redirect[edit]

This page also needs to be corrected, as Church of the Creator is NOT AFFILIATED WITH the Creativity Movement.

Please make sure this is fixed, along with the other page -- it's the very least you guys can do.

Thank you.

Bohemian Gal (talk) 06:48, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

Redirect still exists[edit]

When I type in "church of the creator" it takes me here:

That's the problem -- ^^THIS is not Church of the Creator.

Bohemian Gal (talk) 07:09, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

"Edit War"[edit]

One more question, and then I'm done - I promise. Why is it a "war" when I don't talk with someone before reinstating an article that I spent a lot of time writing, but it's not "war" when someone deletes that article without, apparently, even reading it or providing an explanation? (Not your deletion, but the original one.)

Seriously -- if you folks are going to delete things, you should give the courtesy of an explanation to the author beforehand (or, at least, as soon as it's done). Simply wiping out someone's hard work is pretty "war-like", IMHO. If you want to encourage people to contribute, that's not the way to do it.

Bohemian Gal (talk) 07:30, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the exemption. :) The previous editor explained in his edit-summary that the article was not notable. So that was the explanation for the original deletion. Normally if something is deemed non-notable it gets swiftly deleted. But I can also see it from your point of view. Deleting someone's contributions, even for a valid reason, is not pleasant and can seem like a type of "war", but this being an encyclopedia, it is a necessary type of action, otherwise this place would be filled with articles of non-existing notability. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 07:50, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

Received a warning from you for an 'edit war'[edit]

What to do when my sourced additions are removed, without a reply to my discussion on the talk page? --Behzat (talk) 21:17, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

Edit-warring is not the answer, especially when your edits are controversial and in a controversial topic under Arbcom sanctions. You should wait for someone to reply or take this to WP:DRN. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 21:21, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
Thank you. There is a lot of knowledge I and fellow scholars have on this matter. Our edits CONSTANTLY get removed though, and unsourced and even worse, badly sourced information that is clearly non-sense is permitted to stay. When I had removed unsourced information the edit was reverted anyways. It seems like a different perspective than a certain one, or evidence that would indicate so, is not permitted. We have direct evidence from the Ottoman archives, as well as the French and British archives. Unfortunately the Armenian archives are not open for research, even though I personally don't speak Armenian anyways. The level of propaganda in the Armenian Genocide articles is simply too much. The fact that I defined the view as the Dasnak's view is just the other side of the spectrum of "scholarship", I know damn well the truth is somewhere in between. My apologies for that. --Behzat (talk) 22:10, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

Thank you![edit]

Just wanted to thank you for your effort to keep the article of Northern Cyprus clean and spotting violations that failed my eyes, and apologies for re-inserting the copyrighted material. If my rudimentary Greek is working, ευχαριστώ και ευχές για χαρά! --GGT (talk) 23:51, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

Don't mention it GGT. It was not your fault. The text was inserted at some time by someone else and it was hard to spot due to misdirection of sources. Thank you for your kind words and for improving the article. Your Greek is not that bad btw. :) Saygılarımla ve Yeni Yılınız Kutlu Olsun! Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 00:58, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

Potential Sockpuppets[edit]

Can you check "Lkgokpk34" and "Parabellum 999"? Thanks Doc.--TerryAlex (talk) 01:33, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

All taken care of by Materialscientist. Thank you for letting me know TerryAlex. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 01:39, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
Feels like that editor is back "UZI does it", "Colt Python does it" and "Anasapananas"--TerryAlex (talk) 00:00, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
MS has taken care of it :)--TerryAlex (talk) 00:03, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
I was responding and we had an edit-conflict. MS is really fast. :) Btw, Anasapananas doesn't fit the obvious profile as yet. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 00:07, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
  • Gosh. I think I have enough K-pop drama on wiki to need any book supplements. :) Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 03:33, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

Edit warring[edit]

What to do when this happens? Thanks Doc.--TerryAlex (talk) 00:45, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

Random86 has given the 3RRR warning at :11 past the hour. Therefore the sock needs one more revert to qualify for his 3RRN report. I'll watch for the fourth revert and then I will file the report. I would have opened the SPI but I don't have all the information I need yet. So the resolution will be via a 3RRN-induced block. Thank you for letting me know and Happy New Year to you! Take care TerryAlex. P.S. if anything comes up, don't hesitate to let me know. It may be New Year's Day/Eve but computers haven't disappeared. ;) Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 03:03, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
Thanks Doc, happy New Year to you too. It's still NY's Eve for me. I'm still learning how to do things properly, so don't hesitate to let me know if I happen to do something wrong.:) --TerryAlex (talk) 03:17, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
Thank you very much TerryAlex. Btw, you are doing a remarkable job. But in the unlikely case I see anything I'll let you know. :) Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 03:22, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

I noticed this editor "Kely123" is currently doing edit warring as well.--TerryAlex (talk) 18:26, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

Thank you Terry. I saw that. This has to go through 3RRN at this time. Perhaps we can wait for one more revert. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 18:35, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
Dr.K, this user "Anasapananas" kept on reverting, please keep a watch of him/her for me. I also happened to stumble upon another user "Aquamaraqua" (he/she has been reverting as well) and his/her reply on Shinyang-i's talk page. I try to avoid getting into an argument with other users. But how do you make the best "civil" reply when users make comments like that? Thanks Doc. :)--TerryAlex (talk) 16:38, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
Shinyang-i and Random86, Dr.K., I saw what happened with Shinee (and obviously Shinyang's talk page), should I actually try to explain further, or should I just ignore it. There is so much resistance. From your experience, what is the best approach when we are being "accused"? I feel like explanation will continue to be resisted no matter what, and some would even accuse us of playing favoritism (even though that has never been the goal at all). I honestly don't mind being "hated", but just want to hear from an experienced editor like you. Thanks Doc.--TerryAlex (talk) 23:05, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
Oh dear, I'm afraid to look at Shinee. When it comes to explaining things, many times there is very little point because when people are fueled by emotion they are often actually unable to accept even solid facts right in front of them. By that I mean their brain chemistry is keeping them from doing so. (This info is from my profession.) In a case like this that doesn't deal with solid facts, it's even harder. They are taking it all personally, as an assault on something they love; they actually believe not being able to list every group that even Koreans have never heard of will cause them real emotional pain. It's a contest. I could go on but you get the idea. I have no idea what to do about it. Shinyang-i (talk) 00:44, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
It seems you've decided to call it quits, which is unfortunate. I wish I had some profound advice to give, but I don't. Alakzi (talk) 14:07, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

Happy New Year Dr.K.![edit]

Thank you very much L235. Happy New Year to you too! Cheers. :) Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 06:10, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Les Mots bleus (album)[edit]

Harrias talk 12:01, 1 January 2015 (UTC)


Hi Starship. Nice to see you here. :) Thank you for your nice message and Happy New Year to you too. Take care. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 20:25, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

Happy new year ![edit]

Happy new year to you too Dr.K . Hope this year will be great for you . Regards , Gjirokastra15 (talk) 04:08, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

Likewise. Thank you very much Gjiro. Take care. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 04:20, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

How to tag a page?[edit]

Hello Dr.K., I'm writing you concerning the page The Fearless Vampire Killers. The page contents are mostly pulled from two review sites. I noted this on the Talk page, but still the page gets added to.

I don't know how to tag the page so a bot or Editor can look at the page and flag the sections for re-editing. Many thanks, --Mikepellerintalk 06:07, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

On it Mike. Checking. I'll let you know soon. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 06:31, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
I think I cleaned it up. Thank you for letting me know Mike. Happy 2015 btw. :) Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 07:42, 2 January 2015 (UTC)


I hope you had a great Christmas and a Happy new year! Please take a look at the articles Carolina Neurath and Karolina Olsson that I have created. When you find time for it! Regards.--BabbaQ (talk) 11:15, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

Sorry for the delay in replying BabbaQ. I'll take a look. Take care. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 19:00, 10 January 2015 (UTC)

Another sock?[edit]

What is your opinion of user:Binvoiler? One edit only, and it's to accuse someone of being racist. They are mad at an anon IP but somehow someone brought my name into it. Geesh, these people are weird. I think all the Got7 pages and now Shinee need protection; this is so absurd and unproductive. :( Shinyang-i (talk) 01:07, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

I saw the sock, but I don't think s/he was referring to you. As far as I saw, they were responding to the IP edit. You are doing an excellent job, but you should be prepared for backlash of this type from edit-warring socks and IPs. The amount of edit-warring and socking in this area has actually improved over the past few years, but it still is rather high. For protection, if this gets any worse, a request at RFPP may be the way to go. Many K-pop pages are already protected and admins at RFPP are very responsive about providing protection to K-pop articles, more so than they were in the past. The profile of this area has been raised considerably over the past few years and admin response, always good to start with, has now become excellent, so not everything is bad. :) Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 01:23, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for the background. It's good to know what kind of support is available behind the scenes. [comments about troll name removed]. Shinyang-i (talk) 04:34, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
Yes, it may seem at first glance that there is only haphazard protection of articles but actually there are many admins behind the scenes who help out, so thankfully, we are not alone. In any case, I also reported the last troll. It is best to just ignore, revert and report them any time they appear. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 05:16, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
Thanks again. I had the edit summaries and the user name removed because people just shouldn't have to look at that. By the way, do you know any other places to turn for getting comments from editors on reliable sources/establishing notability? The discussion at the wp:korea/popular culture is going nowhere and and some users are actually getting less logical the longer the discussion continues. They want to throw out all rules because kpop is ~*~special~*~. Or something. It takes all types, I guess. :) Shinyang-i (talk) 05:57, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
Good job on erasing the troll. Next step, you should go to WP:RSN. I don't think any of the editors who advocate using these weak sources can defend any of that stuff there. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 06:01, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

The Beatles Invite[edit]

AbbeyRoadZebraCrossingRevisited.jpg Hi! I've seen you around on The Beatles' articles... Would you consider becoming a member of WikiProject The Beatles, a WikiProject which aims to expand and improve coverage of The Beatles on Wikipedia? Please feel free to join us.
Abbey Road... You're not in this picture... yet!
In response to your thanks. Your welcome, and could you please help me with the article Lord Upminster. There may be a barnstar in it for ya!. All the best Joe Vitale 5 (talk) 14:23, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
Thank you very much Joe for your kind invitation. Although I'm not expert on music articles, I'll take a look and see if there is anything I can help with. Take care. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 18:58, 10 January 2015 (UTC)

Copyright issues[edit]

Thanks for writing on Jain Sculpture, every version of that page is violating copyright and also the current one. See User talk:Diannaa#Copyright issues. Bladesmulti (talk) 05:11, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

No need of this page anyway, we have Jain Temple. Bladesmulti (talk) 05:13, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
Thank you Blades. I have no position on the article's viability. I'm just removing the copyvios after I saw your comment on Dianna's talk. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 05:15, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
I cleaned it up. Now you can safely delete it if you think it qualifies. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 05:22, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
Enough is enough @bladesmulti, you are completely biased (nominating pages on Jainism for deletion). I am trying to explain you but you don't want to understand. Jain Temple & Jain Sculpture are two different things. Leave it as you are not an expert, let an admin who is part of WikiProject Jainism decide. Jain Sculptures are found at various places in Tamil Nadu (at more than 480 sites, but they are not temple)
Thanks Dr.K. for making me understand the copyright thing. I am a beginner and didn't knew this. Thanks for cleaning up the article. But can you tell that if a news is published relating to any wikipedia article, how should I add it to the article?. Like this news-, how should I add this to article Jain Sculpture. And in this news report, a scholar's comments are there, can I add them as it is?talk 13:00, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
@ProudJain: Thank you ProudJain for understanding my message. When you add details from a source you must use your own words. To do that, try to imagine what the main idea of the information is and, without looking at the source, put it in your own words, always trying to avoid copying the sentence structure, syntax and grammar of the source. As far as quoting people you can do that as long as you put quotation marks to indicate their words and you should also try to keep quotations to a minimum. I hope this helps. All the best. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 21:28, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

50 DYK medal[edit]

Dyk50CE.svg The 50 DYK Creation and Expansion Medal
You're more than entitled to this medal! This is to acknowledge your 50 (and counting!) contributions to DYK on the subjects of literature, film, culture, sports, and many other interesting topics. Keep up the good work! Yoninah (talk) 11:17, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
Thank you very much Yoninah for your kind gesture and encouragement. Coming from you, a DYK regular and an editor I greatly respect, it is an honour and a very welcome surprise. Take care. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 11:45, 13 January 2015 (UTC)


I'm not sure why you reverted my razzies edits? It is an award. Can tell me why you reverted them. (Atomic Meltdown (talk) 23:37, 14 January 2015 (UTC))

It's a rather long story. But check this discussion. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 23:56, 14 January 2015 (UTC)


I appreciate the note! I think I'm going to give myself a fresh start on Wikipedia (knock on wood). Cool Hand Luke 16:29, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

I am knocking on wood indeed! Your presence is really needed on the project. Your eloquence and calm demeanour have always impressed me greatly since very long ago and I am very glad for your return. Take care Luke. :) Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 16:43, 16 January 2015 (UTC)


Absolutely stealing the top of your talk page to put it on my own, provided you don't mind! Love it. Gloss 18:55, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

LOL. If that kind of compliment from a veteran editor can be called stealing, please feel free to steal anything I've got. :) Take care. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 19:01, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

Citation Barnstar Hires.png The Citation Barnstar
Nice job on Meryl Streep NeilN talk to me 05:56, 17 January 2015 (UTC)
LOL. I had no idea about this barnstar. :) It is a nice-looking barnstar and, coming from you Neil, it is an honour. Thank you very much. Take care. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 06:01, 17 January 2015 (UTC)
A well deserved barnstar. It's all too rare that someone actually steps up and adds citations. Thanks for making the point that it is possible! --Djembayz (talk) 21:18, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
Thank you very much Djembayz. I enjoyed your remark about making a point that it is possible to add citations. :) Yes, adding citations is not difficult in many cases, but somehow you see tags all over the place which could easily be removed with a few Google searches. Actually I did not intend to find twenty five citations, at least not at the beginning. But it turned out that with the right combination of keywords the references dropped out of Google like confetti. I couldn't ignore that, and it actually was fun anyway, so I continued to the end. Some tags were there from 2012, although a simple single string search through Google provided the reference in no time. Perhaps there should be an essay on how to find citations but I'm not sure if it would help increase citation-adding at the expense of tagging. Thank you for dropping by. All the best. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 22:01, 18 January 2015 (UTC)


Hey, I've opened an SPI to check for other accounts for Mr Wiki Pro. I figure that you can weigh in if you want to here. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 08:47, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

Separation of Regions from their Peripheries in Wikipedia (and new beautiful maps for them!)[edit]

Hello again my friend. I am happy to announce to everyone (and to you, first of all), that after some really hard work and many hours in my office, I finally managed to learn how to edit the .SVG image type of files which are used by Wikipedia for maps and charts.

This newly-discovered knowledge, enabled me to deal with a chronic issue of the English Wikipedia's articles regarding Greece and its provinces: Poor quality low-resolution maps. If you have been to various pages such as Epirus (Region in Greece), or Western Thrace, Thessaly and Peloponnese, you probably have noticed how all these pages had different map styles, often low-resolution. So, now, I learned how to edit .SVG files and re-create all of Greece's provincial and regional maps in high quality and high resolution!

To see the difference in quality, here I give you some samples of my work:

Previous, low-resolution map (used by Wikipedia) for Epirus:

My new high-resolution map for Epirus:

Previous, low-resolution map (used by Wikipedia) for Central Macedonia:

My new high-resolution map for Central Macedonia:

You can find all of my uploaded maps at WikiCommons:

The new maps are using the .SVG format which permits the users to zoom it for closer look, in contrast to the .PNG formats of the previous maps which wasn't zoom-friendly.

The maps I have uploaded, are two versions of each region of Greece - the Regional map, which is about the historical regions of Greece (Region of Epirus, Region of Central Greece, Region of Macedonia, etc), and the Prefecture Map, which is the Kallikratis Plan's Administrative maps of present-day Greece (Periphery of Epirus, Periphery of Attica, Periphery of Central Macedonia, etc).

Now I have run into a problem:

I found that the Wikipedia did not adopt a CLEAR policy regarding the separation of historical from the administrative articles - well, at least for Greece. For example, Wikipedia has two articles (one historical (click here), and one administrative (click here)) about Peloponnese, because the Periphery of Peloponnese does not have authority over the entire Peloponnese. But, at the same time, Wikipedia has only one article about Thessaly (click here) and its Periphery, merged into a single article, even if the Periphery of Thessaly is not limited to the region of Thessaly, but has extended authority over many islands of the Central Aegean Sea.

If things weren't bad enough in Wikipedia, some articles had a double name formula, such as this article, here, about Crete (click). In Crete's article, you may have noticed that the English name of the Infobox refers to the island (Crete), but the Greek name of the infobox refers to the administration (Periphery of Crete) which are two completely different cases. Islands and Administrations shouldn't be confused! With simple words, I am saying that the government of the island is NOT the same as the island itself! Right?

The Periphery of Crete, in fact, is not governing only the island of Crete, but also has extended authority over many other nearby smaller islands around Crete, and thus, proves my point that the separation of the islands from their governments in Wikipedia is required.

To end my message to you, and to summarize what I am trying to say here, is that I am looking into giving some professional attention to Greece's articles, so the regions to have separated articles from the administrative/governmental entities that govern these large regions. That could really help have things sorted out.

I am (almost) done creating the .SVG maps for the these Regions and also I am almost done creating maps for the Peripheries that rule over these regions. The maps are of the .SVG format and of high quality. Give a look to all files! What do you say? Couldn't Regions be separated from Peripheries (where this was not done yet, such as Thessaly and Crete)? --SilentResident (talk) 19:48, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

Thank you SilentResident. I'll check this in detail when I have some time. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 20:32, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

The Razzie situation[edit]

So what your take on the state of consensus? I have to say that there is so much use of the award in articles on performers that it's like playing wack-a-mole, but we must do our best. I assess the consensus of discussions so far as to "remove unless sourced." What do you think? Coretheapple (talk) 20:16, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

I agree completely. You have my support on that. I'll watch out for any reversals of consensus. Thank you Coretheapple. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 20:31, 17 January 2015 (UTC)
OK good! Well feel free to follow my contributions and I'll do likewise. However, it may be a few days before I can get started in earnest. Coretheapple (talk) 21:33, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

Corfu/ Greek History[edit]

I would appreciate more of an unbiased attempt from your writings/listings/ and edits that are viewed and accredited form ALL international institution and scholars as such. I could give you examples, but in particular this is a message pertaining to your comment on "minorities in Greek". I would have a good idea on the subject since my origins are Cham Orthodox from Janina, Filati, and Parga. Thank You. — Preceding unsigned comment added by IllyrianDodona (talkcontribs) 23:12, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

Surreal Barnstar Hires.png The Surreal Barnstar
The Surreal Barnstar is awarded to any user who adds "special flavor" to the community by acting as a sort of wildcard.
Yes, you Greeks are wild! YeOldeGentleman (talk) 23:51, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
Gosh, what can I say? Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 23:18, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

A Little Help Here....[edit]

Hey Dr.K., I was wondering if you'd be able to help me promote "Alexander O'Neal" to at least GA, I've created like four or five articles for his albums some minor work on his actual page etc. and I was wondering if you'd like to help. Joe Vitale 5 (talk) 21:00, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

Sure Joe, no problem. I'll participate in the GA process. Let me know when it starts. I'll also check the article anyway to see if it needs any copyediting. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 06:45, 24 January 2015 (UTC)


Thanks for your work with cleaning up the sources. I'll be getting her up to GA status. I have the Longworth Anatomy of an Actor book which I'll be using for starters. It's a great book which I highly recommend if you like Streep.♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:37, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

Thank you Doc. Thank you also for adding some new and very interesting material to her article. When this all started I was indifferent to her, but now that I got involved in her article I realise she is a great actor and an eloquent and intelligent woman. I'll get the book. I'll also try to help out in the GA process when it starts. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 19:29, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
Did you get the book? If not when I return it to wikimedia UK (I got it and anumber of other books including Althorp, Waldorf Astoria New York and Stanley Kubrick through a grant) I can ask them to send it to you. I'm sure Krimuk90 would love to get hold of that Streep book, but not sure if WMUK will send it across the world to him!♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:09, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
Oh, I would absolutely love to get access to that book! -- KRIMUK90  13:14, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
I found it in the local library! Yay!! -- KRIMUK90  13:23, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
No, I haven't had the time to look for the book yet. Thank you very much for the offer Dr.B., although I'm not sure how this can be worked out. Perhaps it would be faster and simpler to just order it from Amazon or, as Krimuk did, try to get a copy from a library. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 02:01, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

Miss Universe 2014[edit]

I thought the image I uploaded was copyrighted but used under Fair use on Wiki guidelines. No/Yes? Jeydo (talk) 06:26, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

No. It has to be a free image taken by someone who will upload it under a free license. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 06:30, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
Ok I understand that thank you. Since is considered a non-profit organization, they would be considered non-commercial then right? I will also read more into what you wrote on my talk page. Jeydo (talk) 06:49, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
Thank you and yes, Wikimedia is a non-profit organisation. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 06:53, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Don't get me wrong though, the 2nd time I added it I was just shrinking the picture down & didn't notice your earlier edit. So I know already they're non-profit - but that means they are non-commerical too then right? So then I will direct you here (Please read #2) & here. This would apply to the whole website then I believe. And in the end, I just wanted to add a picture to brighten it up too but how would I google such a thing that's allowed? I was considering asking for permission after you edited as well - but maybe I could arrange a event for her to visit my state. Where are you from? Because my wife is Colombian and she was completely stoked when Paulina Vega won! She jumped up and down turning in a circle, and it made my heart warm as I saw her reaction that I haven't seen since their progress in the World Cup last year. :) Just thought I'd share that, although I'm sure Ms Vega will become popular over the next year & I hope it's very beneficial to her country as well. You should visit there sometime if you haven't been yet. I've been over there about 5 times now.

Ok, so either way quite frankly - I'm glad you edited me in the first place. Because whether I was right or wrong doesn't matter to me, but that this happened at all in the first place. Life is too short probably to learn everything for as much time as I have on this planet, or even Google it each time - until we subject ourselves to the machine & putting microchips in us is a safe (well mostly anyway) commonplace practice. Anyway, just looking at your talk page, I get opened up to another world of creativity of photos I haven't seen before. You seem like a pretty cool guy & a guru at the Wikipedia or at least know what your doing. I wish I could probably watch you in action & learn somethings over a video chat, or how-to videos. Some of the conversational pieces seem like a script for a "Inception" sequel in fact - You could probably guess which one eh? So I'd like to thank you for the experience before I go to bed, and hope something else good comes from it too. Don't be a stranger. I edit as Jeydo over here on the other side of things, but I don't know a Wikia from a Wiki entry, except it's more fan & media driven IMO and less of a Encyclopedia entry to educate the masses.

If you have any personal Wikias, Wiki pages you'd like to share, or whatnot please do so on my Talk page when you have the time from your personal endeavors. I haven't been on a fishing boat in awhile since my dad sold his, so for now virtual fishing is a great escape when I have a few minutes or hours to myself & some great company around the world as well. Tight lines as they say there! Jeydo (talk) 08:09, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

A beer for you![edit]

Export hell seidel steiner.png Well, I thought your other one in the pic needed some company. This one's for you - don't worry, I brought my own! But now I'm tired & thirsty for real. What's your top 5 favorite brews? I like a good hard cider myself. But prefer champagne, wines & liquors like tequila & rum. Jeydo (talk) 08:34, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
Thank you very much Jeydo for this great glass. I enjoy British ales, although Belgian and German lagers are excellent as well, not to mention the Greek brands. Cheers. :) Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 17:51, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

A (few) questions[edit]

Hey Dr. K.,

Just wanted to know what you think of SYRIZA getting voted into government in Greece. It has even made news here in Australia!

Besides, I need to ask for one small favour. Due to my location, my IP address gets accused of regional bias. I just need you to search up into Google 3 things:

  • Port Douglas
  • Port Douglas -queensland -australia
  • Port Douglas -canada -british -columbia

Could you provide the number of results you get for that? For Port Douglas I get 14.1 million, for Port Douglas -queensland -australia I get 8.56 million (yet the location is still showing up as Australia), and for Port Douglas -canada -british -columbia I get 8.84 million.

I am not fussed if you cannot do this. Cheers, Luxure Σ 05:00, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

Hi Luxure. I get very similar results to yours for all three. As far as SYRIZA, I think it was a natural reaction to the unprecedented and longterm austerity measures. Only time will tell what will happen. I certainly can't. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 05:53, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
It is also interesting to note that the Greek Parliament has 300 seats, for 10-12 million people. The Australian Parliament has only 150 for 24mil.! Although we do have an upper house of close to 80 seats, still brings it no-where near to a size of 300. Why's that? Luxure Σ 10:03, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
That's a good question, but I'm not sure about the criteria for determining the number of constituencies in Greece, or for that matter, in any other country. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 22:39, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

Duplicate article[edit]

Hi Dr. I wonder if you'd have any advice on merging Eleni Theocharous with Elena Theoharous. The first is newer and unreferenced, but longer and more current. Alakzi (talk) 21:40, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

Hi Alakzi. I think one option you can try is to propose an uncontroversial move to the article that has the name version you think is the best. In the proposed move you can mention that these are duplicate articles and that history and contents have to be merged. You can then fine-tune the article after the merge. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 22:27, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
Thanks, Dr, I'll try that. Alakzi (talk) 22:51, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
You are very welcome Alakzi. Thank you also for your hard work. Take care. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 23:19, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
Thanks, Dr. It looks like I couldn't avoid the RM, so this is probably not getting resolved until next month. Alakzi (talk) 01:33, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
Too bad. I guess it must be technically difficult to process it through RM. What a mess. Thanks for persevering Alakzi. All the best. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 01:40, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

Thanks Dr.![edit]

Have a good day! Macedonian, a Greek (talk) 05:46, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

You are very welcome Macedonian, but it was no big deal. Btw, I hadn't noticed you were back until today. Welcome back. :) Nice seeing you around. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 15:20, 7 February 2015 (UTC)


Hey, Dr.K. thanks for your contributions to Alexander O'Neal, I may be asking as lot but could you please help me with the article Bruce Foxton. Joe Vitale 5 (talk) 09:11, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Hi Joe. No problem, I'll have a look. Take care. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 17:27, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

New photo for Topp Dogg[edit]

Hi Dr. K., I just attempted to upload a concert photo to the profile of Topp Dogg, File:Topp Dogg, World ToppKlass Tour, Houston 2015.jpg Is this acceptable to you? I didn't know what your message meant on the profile image line area. Do I leave your message from the prior deleted photo? This is the first time I am uploading it here, and I have sent an OTRS request with permission granted by the copyright holder Barry Tse. Thank you.--Bonnielou2013 (talk) 07:51, 13 February 2015 (UTC)THANK YOU! I understand now - it had a Watermark - I will correct and resubmit.--Bonnielou2013 (talk) 07:59, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

I tried to mark the file for deletion but can't quite get it right. File:Topp Dogg, World ToppKlass Tour, Houston 2015.jpg I've requested an unmarked file from copyright holder, thank you!--Bonnielou2013 (talk) 08:50, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

@Bonnielou2013: Hi Bonnielou. I see you have uploaded a new version without the mark. You can remove the deletion tags from the image if you have the OTRS permission from the photographer for the new version. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 19:37, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
Thank you! I uploaded the original version from Flickr instead, to Wikimedia Commons, after the copyright holder agreed to do that. I'm still trying to get the hang of it. This one can be deleted. Thank you for your help.--Bonnielou2013 (talk) 01:29, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
You are very welcome Bonnielou. I'm glad it all worked out. Take care. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 01:31, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
 :)--Bonnielou2013 (talk) 17:48, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

Jessica Watson[edit]

You set up an archive on Talk:Jessica_Watson. The section title of the last archive made for a timely editorial comment in the article history; the coincidence made me smile. Thank you for your input on the whole matter. SEC (talk) 04:17, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Haha! I just saw the title about the hype. That was really funny in the context of the recent developments. :) I take this opportunity to thank you for your expert opinion on the WSSRC definition, which I just saw in Archive 2, and for your kind comment about my input. Take care. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 05:22, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Reported for edit warring[edit]

You have been reported for edit warring here: (talk) 20:04, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Beatrice of England revert[edit]

Hi, you recently reverted an edit on the article Beatrice of England, and said it was a good faith edit. The editor you reverted changed her father from Henry III to Neil Patrick Harris and changed her mother from Eleanor of Provence to Kate Middleton. I can't how that's in good faith, so I'm just wondering why you said so in your edit summary, and I assume it was just a mistake so I'm just checking. Thanks, SamWilson989 (talk) 16:41, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

No, it was not a mistake. The user calls herself Princess Jessica of Palnovia and seems like an inexperienced editor. I will not assume she is a vandal until I have more evidence. She also went to Wgolf to ask him/her about advice how to improve her userpage. Her MO is not that of a vandal but of an editor needing guidance. Don't forget, the assumption of good faith works best when you stretch it a little, especially when you have valid reasons for doing so. Applying AGF only on obvious cases is rather useless. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 17:49, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
I admit that assuming good faith is something that should always be done, I mean that's the point of the policy, but this seems as clear as it can get as Beatrice of England was born several centuries ago whereas Neil Patrick Harris and Kate Middleton were born several decades ago, therefore biologically it is impossible for them to be her mother. It is 100% that they are not Beatrice's parents and so it makes no sense for that edit to be made. I think you're taking the assume good faith rule too far. I also think that you should treat this edit alone, and not base it off of editing history. There's a reason you don't argue ad hominem and there's a reason you shouldn't assume that an editor who is asking for guidance wouldn't vandalise a page. This is just my opinion and I don't think we need to discuss such an insigificant thing too much, but I just thought I'd throw in my two cents. Thanks, SamWilson989 (talk) 18:00, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
I know who Kate Middleton is and I know that the edit was unconstructive and that's why I reverted it, so no need for the ex post facto analysis thank you. But when you assume good faith, you assume good faith not for the edit but for the editor who made it. If you revert an edit, the edit is almost in all cases unconstructive. But AGF does not apply to the edit but to the intent of the editor. I cannot judge what the intent of that editor was based on the information I currently have. But based on AGF I will not assume her intent was vandalism. Perhaps she was daydreaming when she did that edit, I don't know and I don't care. But I will not label her a vandal due to the application of AGF in this case. I know she is an inexperienced editor who appears willing to improve herself, so I will give her the benefit of the doubt for now. That's what AGF is for. If you knew it was good faith, or you were certain about it, you wouldn't have to assume it. But that would not be AGF, it would be "Certainty of Good Faith (CGF)", a useless thing. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 18:12, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
The analysis was just my incredulity that someone could think that was correct coming through. As far as AGF goes, I'm gonna be honest, I never looked at it that way before. You honestly opened my eyes there. Thanks. It's a policy that I guess works in life as well as wikipedia. SamWilson989 (talk) 18:33, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
Oh and also your timing is impeccable, both times I tried to post this you created an edit conflict :P SamWilson989 (talk) 18:33, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
Lol. Sorry for the inadvertent edit-conflicts. I guess you have to assume good faith that I wasn't doing it on purpose. :) Thank you also for your enquiry. It is an example of how a good-faith enquiry can work in a wiki environment to elucidate certain concepts for the benefit of both editors. Putting my ideas about AGF in words clarified my understanding of it further. Thank you for that as well. Take care. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 18:51, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Calling All Stations...[edit]

Hi, Dr.K. could you please help me with the article, Chris Spedding. Many thanks an' all, yours truly Joe Vitale 5 (talk) 18:44, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

No problem Joe. I'll take a look as soon as time allows. Take care. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 18:55, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

I am truly out of words[edit]

Alexikoua just brought a source where it was proven without a doubt that you two were right and i was totally wrong . My certainty faded away , to be replaced by a strong feeling of shame and remorse . And i feel especially bad with the fact that i disrespected you when in fact you merit all my respect . In all honesty , i did not see your message in my talk page when you had written it because antidiskriminator had written another message 2 hours after you in my talk page ( you can check it ) which made me not see your comment. I am sorry for not assuming wp:goodfaith especially from you . Please do understand that my behavior was of a foolish man believing that he was 100% right and all the others were trying to manipulate the data . I am not trying to fix anything , as i take full responsibility , however i do want to make this clear , and offer 1 more time my apology , given your more than correct and very patient behavior towards me .Next time i will think twice before reverting you . Have a great day :) Gjirokastra15 (talk) 19:02, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

No worries Gjiro. My respect for you is great enough to withstand such misunderstandings. I had recognised your integrity early on and this incident proves to me that I was right. Thank you very much for your kind comments and I reciprocate the respect you show toward me. Take care. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 00:35, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Your edit revert message[edit]

Hi Dr.K.; Your edit message suggests that you did not see that the other editor you have posted regarding the Wikipedia article has decided to ignore your message. Here is a short summary of the history for easy access. He is currently edit warring against EngineeringGuy there and I posted my support there and requested Talk since he was reverting against two editors. Can you follow-up with him since I have done this to support another editor. The history of that editor is to first template tag material he is deleting and then to delete it in a week. Should it be set back to EngineeringGuy and await the tag-delete editor to start Talk to establish his consensus. Here is the revert in his he ignores your message:

(cur | prev) 12:54, 10 March 2015‎ Chealer (talk | contribs)‎ . . (206,358 bytes) (+66)‎ . . (→‎Wikiprojects, and assessment of importance and quality: challenge OR (see Talk:Wikipedia/Archive_22#Distribution_of_article_importances)) (undo | thank)

This is the short form history from the Wikipedia edit history page. LawrencePrincipe (talk) 13:42, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

Hi Dr.K.; Your edit message suggests that you did not see that the other editor you have posted regarding the Wikipedia article has decided to ignore your message. How is it possible that my edit message suggests that I did not see that the other editor decided to ignore my message when I posted my messages to you and him/her approximately six hours before his/her recent reversion at 12:54 UTC? I am also perfectly capable of reading talkpage histories without having them dumped on my talk. As far as the edit-warring, it must stop at this stage from your part because you are also at three reverts and the matter should be resolved through talkpage discussion and not through further edit-warring. You should follow WP:BRD and start a discussion on the talkpage of the article. Btw, I have opened a 3RRN report regarding the other editor. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 17:04, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

Hello Dr. K, may I ask for your help?[edit]

Hello Dr. K,

I notice that yesterday you placed a warning on the talk page of LawrencePrincipe (talk) for edit warring on (I assume) the Glengarry Glen Ross (film) page. He has continued to delete the material that is the subject matter of the RfC discussion. He has also posted a prominent Supplement at the very top of the RfC on the talk page, saying that because the RfC is poorly worded it may be closed immediately, and has also said that no changes to his deletion can be made in any case until the RfC is closed.

I am a relatively inexperienced editor; maybe I am in the wrong and he is correct in what he says. But I do not know how to respond, or what is the correct course of action. Any guidance which you could provide would be much appreciated.

Best, Xanthis (talk) 08:24, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

Update: He has re-implemented his changes a third time without discussing them on the talk page, and has gone ahead with his threat and closed the RfP according to "WP:SNOWBALL," even though there were many excellent and eloquent points being made on both sides. I have never before encountered such aggressive behavior on Wikipedia. Help! What should I do? Xanthis (talk) 14:27, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
@Xanthis: Actually my warning to the user was about the article on Wikipedia. In any case I saw that the editor's close got reverted by an admin at the film article talkpage so this matter seems to have been resolved. Best regards. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 23:46, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) Even more better resolved now, I noticed, Doctor; the user has been blocked by Swarm for edit warring and disruptive editing, with a very full and clear rationale about exactly the things Xanthis was concerned about — inappropriately closing the RfC, etc.[2] Glad it worked out, Xanthis. Bishonen | talk 22:12, 14 March 2015 (UTC).
"Even more better resolved now" LOL, thank you very much Bish for sharing your great sense of humour. Say hi to certain cute lizards, but don't talk to them about me very much, lest they get any ideas about remodeling my userpage or making it disappear altogether. :) Take care Bishonen, it is always nice talking to you. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 22:53, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
I'll certainly pass on your kind greetings, Dr K. They're not all lizards, you know. There's a Trojan princess (bit of a Greek connection there), and a romantic poet. All sorts! Bishonen | talk 00:37, 16 March 2015 (UTC).
My apologies. I wasn't aware that such dramatic and learned counterparts existed. In that case I'm feeling a bit more hopeful that destruction is not the only outcome when one encounters a member of the Zhilla family. I particularly like the names; Cassandra's description really pushes the envelope of drama while the poet's name is a really nice play on the name of the actual poet, or is it the other way around? One never knows with such beings. :) Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 05:32, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
"Glad it worked out, Xanthis." Thanks, Bishonen! That was my first time on an administrator noticeboard, and I had no idea what to expect. My faith in Wikidom has been confirmed... Thank you both! -Xanthis (talk) 02:22, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
You are very welcome Xanthis, although I didn't really do much. But your kind thoughts are appreciated. Take care. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 02:50, 20 March 2015 (UTC)


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A Request[edit]

Could you please help me with the article, Stephen Dawson. Joe Vitale 5 (talk) 09:05, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

Sure Joe. Sorry for the delay but I've been busy IRL. Take care. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 21:18, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

Likely BLP violation[edit]

Hi Dr.K.—hope all is well. Could you please take a look here? Alakzi (talk) 18:59, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

Hi Alakzi. I'm very well, thank you. I hope everything is well with you too. I tried to clean up that section. I think using youtube as a source for the BLP should be limited, especially when using channels dedicated to politically attack the subject. If you encounter resistance in the article during any cleanup, you should take it to BLPN for wider input. I'll keep an eye as well. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 00:45, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
I'm doing alright. Thanks for the cleanup, much appreciated! Alakzi (talk) 01:03, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
Glad to hear you are well. You are very welcome, as always. Thank you for your great work in this difficult area, as well as all the other great things you do for the project. It is always nice talking to you. Take care Alakzi. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 01:07, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

When you've got time, could you also take a look at Evelin Banev? I do get the sense that the only way it can be fixed is with a gas canister and a match. Alakzi (talk) 17:22, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

I did a small cleanup but the body of the article has a lot of details and many Bulgarian sources which make it difficult to verify the material. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 23:10, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
Thank you. Yes, I've had the same problem; mostly, I copyedited for style and tone, and removed the things I thought were obvious fabrications. Alakzi (talk) 01:33, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

Another request[edit]

Could you please help me with the article, Leo Sayer. Joe Vitale 5 (talk) 10:26, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

No problem Joe. Take care. :) Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 18:21, 31 March 2015 (UTC)


I like the satirical hatnote above this talk page. :  } --Kevjonesin (talk) 22:46, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

You are an admin that is making personal attacks[edit]

It is disappointing to see admins like you, engaging in personal attacks on users and try to take them out of Wikipedia, because they do not follow your own personal agenda on things and are adding value information with evidence. What a shame....Pampos40 (talk) 22:18, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

Giorgos, you know I supported you and tried to help you understand the operating principles of Wikipedia. Instead you chose to become a sock. I am disappointed, very disappointed. By the way, I'm not an admin. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 22:28, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

I will ask Giorgos, but I don't think that he will have something good to say. You have being proven to be the number one personal attacker of the team, that is trying to enforce their agenda on anything related with Cyprus. You could have done otherwise, yet not only you let this team to be trying to enforce Cyprus to look, like the worst criminals house in Wikipedia, but as I see you are leading it as well. What a shame.... By the way, if you think that in this country we will not do anything, and we are going to let you and a few other propagandists enforce a portraying of as, as 100 time worst than what we are, you are mistaken.Pampos40 (talk) 22:37, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

Και σ' ευχαριστώ![edit]

I really appreciate the thank you notes you have sent me from time to time. Coming from an experienced editor like yourself, I feel they do mean something. I am thinking of creating a new SMS language acronym for such occations: BMHHIA - bowing my head humbly in acknowledgement. I take this occation to wish you Χρόνια Πολλά (and, if applicable, Χριστός Ανέστη). Kind regards! --T*U (talk) 09:10, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

Happy Easter![edit]

Xristos anesti and may you have good luck for the rest of the year! Happy Easter! Luxure Σ 11:37, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

Alithos o Kyrios. Happy Easter to you too Luxure, and thank you very much for your kind wishes. Take care and all the best to you too. :) Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 16:32, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

New proposal[edit]

pls see Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#Ban Chealer from Wikipedia altogether -- Moxy (talk) 16:13, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

Thank you Moxy. I'll have a look as soon as time allows. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 19:37, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for your kind advice.[edit]

I am merely informing people who i know are interested in the topic, who are experienced editors to examine the article themselves and to place input. Your right right though, wording may be a bit excessive ! There is nothing that says that contact between wikipedians is forbidden.

Resnjari (talk) 06:05, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

Not if the heading is: "IMPORTANT DELETION OF SOURCES IN THE CHAM ALBANIANS ARTICLE BY ALEXIKOUA- Need assistance:" and the identical POV message is pasted across multiple user talkpages. That's called WP:CANVASSING and even spamming. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 06:12, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
Like i said, i thank you for your kind advice. I have taken it on board. I was not familiar with those procedures. Its good that you pointed that out for me. Resnjari (talk) 06:18, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
No problem. Thank you for understanding. All the best. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 06:31, 20 April 2015 (UTC)