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Mama Dear Kids[edit]

Are you thinking that it's a role account for Mama Dear's children? Just trying to understand you better. Nyttend (talk) 17:21, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

@Nyttend: Yes, that's what I was thinking. It implies that there could be several people accessing the account per WP:NOSHARE, and therefore the account's edits cannot be reliably attributed to the same individual. --Drm310 (talk) 17:27, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
You're right, and I will block the account momentarily. Thank you for raising the issue, as it hadn't even crossed my mind. Nyttend (talk) 18:03, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
Thanks. I have other concerns about the page itself, so I've nom'd it as MfD per your suggestion. --Drm310 (talk) 18:07, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
Account unblocked; the user requested unblock with a rationale of I am respectfully requesting to have my access unblocked due to the fact that I am the sole contributor. This is not a group account despite the username I've suggested a WP:CHU request. Nyttend (talk) 20:17, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
Fair enough, WP:AGF is the rule. Let's hope they can quickly get up to speed about WP:BIO, WP:V and WP:RS. --Drm310 (talk) 21:09, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

Pilgrim Paths of Ireland[edit]


I recently put up an article on the Pilgrim Paths of Ireland, a national organisation for the promotion of ancient Pilgrim Routes around the island of Ireland.

I'm not terribly IT savvy and, to be honest, have never used Wikipedia before, but I was asked to put a page about the organisation on the site. I obviously got something, or a whole lot of somethings, wrong as both the user (PilgrimPath) and the page on the Pilgrim Paths of Ireland were deleted immediately.

As suggested I've changed my username but I'm terrified to put anything up now in case it is deleted again, I'm permanently banned from Wikipedia and I prevent the Pilgrim Paths from getting any page.

I would just like to know what part of the page was in contravention of Wikipedia rules so that I could have a stab at it again and, hopefully, not have it deleted again.

Kind regards,

Diarmaid Deasy66 (talk) 17:32, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

(sorry if that's wrong, I'm not sure how the tilde signing works).

No worries, you got the tilde signature right! Before I make my usual long-winded reply, I'll give you a helpful link: Wikipedia:Everything you need to know. This summarizes just about every important principle and policy on Wikipedia.
I'm not sure why you weren't told about the reasons the admin blocked your account, but they should have stated that Wikipedia has a policy against usernames which give the impression that the account represents a group, organization or website. Wikipedia accounts can only represent a single individual, and cannot be shared or even imply that they might be shared. Your new account name looks much better, so you don't need to worry about that anymore.
It also appeared that your former account was intended to be used for the purpose of telling the world about an organization, person or cause that you consider worthwhile. Unfortunately, many good causes are not sufficiently notable for their own Wikipedia article. Wikipedia is selective about the topics it includes, and has particular notability guidelines concerning organizations and companies.
You also placed your writing on the account's userpage, which is not an encyclopedia article. Userpages are for users to introduce themselves to the Wikipedia community and include very basic biographical data.
Finally, all users are discouraged from editing in any area where they have an inherent conflict of interest. If you work for or otherwise represent the organization, you would be in this position. Wikipedia has a plain and simple conflict of interest guide to help you understand what kind of editing is and is not acceptable in this circumstance. There is also further explanation at Wikipedia's frequently asked questions for organizations.
If you would like to try again, I'd recommend you follow the links that I left in this reply, as well as those in the welcome message I placed on your user talk page. If you believe this subject could be notable enough for a future article, then create a draft article here, in your user sandbox: User:Deasy66/sandbox. This is outside of both the main article space and user space, and is an acceptable place for you to work on your article.
As a show of good faith, I would also advise you to declare any connection you have to this organization on your userpage. Being transparent about your connections will help establish trust with other editors here, and they will be more willing to help you.
Good luck to you. --Drm310 (talk) 18:39, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

Hi DRM310,

thanks for the comments, much appreciated. No, nobody said anything to me about anything, so I was pretty much stumbling about in the dark. I've read some of the stuff about posting, editing, etc. but most of it appears to have been written by people very familiar with Wikipedia and how it's supposed to work, but not life in general, certainly not mine. I can't make head or tail of most of it. When I start clicking on links it just gets more and more complicated and I just get depressed at my dearth of knowledge. It is a nationwide organisation in Ireland, so I would presume fairly notable.

The reason for creating the page was at the suggestion of the National Heritage Council of Ireland, which has its own page - Pilgrim Paths is run under the umbrella of the Heritage Council, which is a government run body for the promotion of Heritage and Culture in Ireland.

I'm not actually a member of the Pilgrim Paths, but I do put info on their Facebook page and posts on their website, which is why they asked if I would take on the Wikipedia page. I did so thinking it was fairly straightforward, but was apparently completely wrong about this.

Anyway. I've tried another stab at it in the Sandbox. Would you mind taking a peek to see if it's any better.

Again, many thanks for your assistance.

Kind regards,


Deasy66 (talk) 22:50, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

@Deasy66: Certainly, Diarmaid. I'd be happy to look at it and offer some suggestions. I might not be able to reply right away, due to various real-world commitments (work, etc.) and the obvious time difference between Ireland and western Canada, where I am. But I'll do my best to help you out without overwhelming you. Just so you know, new editors often have a rough start because of their unfamiliarity with Wikipedia policies and culture. But if you can persevere, I think you'll find this quite an enjoyable and rewarding experience!
I'll make my comments on the talk page of your sandbox, which is here: User talk:Deasy66/sandbox. I look forward to working with you. --Drm310 (talk) 23:50, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the very useful hints, much appreciated. I've had a stab at the references, I'm not sure if they're as they should be. They look fine to me, but I don't know if that works for Wikipedia. Any comments greatly appreciated.

I understand where you're coming from with work commitments, same here. I hadn't budgeted for becoming an editor in my spare time.

All the best,

Diarmaid. Deasy66 (talk) 09:41, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

Hi again,
I've had another shot at this, would appreciate your feedback if possible.
I'm presuming that 'ping' thing tells you that I've posted here, if not and I'm using it incorrectly, apologies.

Deasy66 (talk) 19:10, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

@Deasy666: - You're correct, it does notify me of your post. I just got back from a vacation, so I will review your changes soon. --Drm310 (talk) 18:46, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

Hi DRM310,

Do you reckon this might be worth re-submitting? I presume you put the official website link at the end, I don't remember doing it.

Again, many thanks for your assistance.

Deasy66 (talk) 11:47, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

@Deasy66: Hi again,
Yes, I added that external link when I had a few spare minutes - sorry for not letting you know! I was trying to make it a little more like the standard article layout.
I think it might be ready for a resubmit now. The only thing I'm still a little uncertain about is the paragraph that mentions all the media coverage. That in itself might not be notable... but I'll let the reviewer make the call about it.
Overall, it looks pretty solid to me. I recommend that you resubmit it, and let's see what happens. Good luck!! --Drm310 (talk) 22:00, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

Duke of Weselton[edit]

Hey I think I see what happened on that Duke of Weselton AfD discussion you started. I made it a redirect right before you tagged it for AfD and that made it collide with Frozen, heh. RegistryKey(RegEdit) 22:31, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

@RegistryKey: Yeah, LOL. I just left a note on your talk page about it. :) --Drm310 (talk) 22:33, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

Mendel Art Gallery[edit]

Hello Drm310, Thanks for the welcome. I'm finding it really interesting learning how Wikipedia works. I've added several suggested updates (with sources) to the Mendel Art Gallery page. If you have any suggestions about the information or sources I've added, please let me know. Is there anything I should do to notify editors of my suggestions?
Many thanks, Jmc881 (talk) 16:48, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

Hi Jmc881. I'm currently on vacation and my Internet access is limited. I'll review your changes on the weekend, when I should be back home. Thanks! --Drm310 (talk) 22:07, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
Hi, and thanks. I've gathered sources and started two new articles - one for Remai Modern and one for Gregory Burke (museum director, writer and curator). Can you let me know where to add these to get feedback? Jmc881 (talk) 17:05, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
@Jmc881: I would make a userspace draft - these are subpages of your main userpage. I've created two for you:
These don't necessarily need to be the titles of the eventual articles. However you will need some kind additional identifier for Gregory, as there is an existing article for a Gregory Burke, a playwright. I just chose "curator" to keep the title short. --Drm310 (talk) 20:55, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

I've started the userspace drafts. I'll keep working on them in the next couple weeks. Feedback is appreciated!Jmc881 (talk) 19:48, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

@Jmc881: I noticed! I left a note about something on your talk page, too. --Drm310 (talk) 20:42, 24 February 2015 (UTC)