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I will not be here from the 23rd of December to the 26th of January.


That was some fast editing on that article of mine. Thanks for the pointers :) hif


Thanks for pointing me to the style manual. I actually take issue with the points about quotation marks. The point is not that we should use curly quotes because they look nicer. The point is that ’, etc. have a different meaning. A left quotation mark indicates the beginning of a quotation—the plain old ASCII ' character is so ambiguous as to make it wrong to use. Even the Unicode spec says so. See http://www.unicode.org/unicode/reports/tr8/ (4.6 Apostrophe Semantics Errata).

Alexander


Thanks for obviously needed the edit on Playgirl - Davodd 00:57, Dec 1, 2003 (UTC)


Hi, thanks, this is my pleasure to have massage from you. Keep smiling. Regards karkikailash


Hi! Would you like to protect the last edit by Morwen of the Silesia article, as User:cc continues to revert to his version, although we have a consensus agreed by all other users, both Germans and Poles? -- Nico 01:42, 18 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Okay, done.... Dysprosia 01:49, 18 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Could you please insert a note that the content of the Silesia article is disputed - Nico's edits are very controversial. Thank you. CC, 06:03, 18 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Nico's edit are the consensus version, written by Szopen and Nico, and accepted by all other contributors, even the Polish, in the discussion except User:cc. "Very controversial"? - Nico 06:21, 18 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Please don't get me too involved in this. You and cc go discuss your issues on the talk page, and when you both have a consensual agreement that the article is not disputed the header can be removed. Otherwise I don't feel comfortable being piggy in the middle of this... Dysprosia 06:23, 18 Nov 2003 (UTC)


Hello, Dysprosia. When deleting images, make sure to click the del link next to the image, NOT the Delete this page link at the bottom. The former deletes both the image and its description page. The latter only deletes the description page, but leaves the image on the server. See for example Image:Lightning-Protector-US1266175.png. I've gone ahead an deleted the actual images that were left behind. --Minesweeper 03:14, Nov 18, 2003 (UTC)

Ohh, so sorry about that. Yes I was wondering why there was still a link to the things and such. Thanks for letting me know :) Dysprosia 04:31, 18 Nov 2003 (UTC)

No problem. :) --Minesweeper 06:42, Nov 19, 2003 (UTC)


Thank you for the wikification of the Tianjin article; woulda done it myself but I was stumped as to where to start! --Merovingian 13:03, Dec 9, 2003 (UTC)~

nonsense[edit]

Hi Dysprosia.

Could you move the deleted NONSENSE page to Wikipedia bad jokes and other nonsense, I found it rather amusing. Thanks, SableSynthesis 06:17, 20 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Ok, sure. Dysprosia 06:18, 20 Nov 2003 (UTC)
Thank you, SableSynthesis 07:53, 23 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Hi Dysprosia, it looks like you helped handling the, erm, theory that the linearly-challenged 211.28.xxx.xxx anons keep adding everywhere. I would just like to say thank you and it would be nice if you kept an eye open. Cheers, Kosebamse 14:18, 24 Nov 2003 (UTC)

 ;) Sure, no problem. I've been a bit busy these last few days but now I should have some more time to...these sorts of matters... Dysprosia 14:25, 24 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Thanks. And by the way, I have a theory that time is actually green with pink dots, not colourless as professors say... erhm... Kosebamse 15:21, 24 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Hi Dysprosia, Should the list of 4gls be moved to Categorical_list_of_programming_languages? What do you think? --davidzuccaro 04:13, 26 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Hmm... Perhaps, but the other generations of languages should be classified first so the 4gls don't look out of place. Dysprosia 04:30, 26 Nov 2003 (UTC)



Thanks amigo. To be honest this looks like donkey-work to me that could be scripted. I mean: if there is a style rule which says something as straightforward as "bold the first occurrence of text XYZ where subject title is XYZ" then that shouldn't be done by humans like me and you, it should be automated. But I take your point in the meantime. If we can precisely define the style rules, then we have some chance to automate them. T0ky0 05:27, 28 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Yeah, I know. But there are some tricky cases some software would need to handle... for example if we have something like Orange and the first line says Oranges are fruit... and otherwise. Anyway, thanks :) Dysprosia 05:29, 28 Nov 2003 (UTC)

I do not know C, so I just keep writing "In C++" Lirath Q. Pynnor

That's okay :) I hope you don't mind me clarifying... Dysprosia 00:28, 1 Dec 2003 (UTC)
Not in the least. Lirath Q. Pynnor

In regards to my pathetic stub on the Skunk Ape, it was better than nothing. Yes, it was poorly written, but it does smell. Would you prefer I say that it has an unpleasent odor? :)Iamthecheese 23:04, Dec 2, 2003 (UTC)


Yes. That would have been an appropriate wording. The edit is yours, my friend. :) Dysprosia 23:05, 2 Dec 2003 (UTC)

You must be following me. I was about to ask Zanimum the same question about Musketeer. :) Angela

I thought I'd chip off a few from Wikipedia:Most wanted stubs when I saw it pop up in Recent Changes :) Dysprosia 01:24, 3 Dec 2003 (UTC)

I don't think it's necessary to create a century article just to mention what years are in that century. Do you? Dysprosia 05:09, 4 Dec 2003 (UTC) :

I think it is necessary, because some students might need to know. Though of course we will all be dead by the next century, it's still important.

I've replied on your talk page. Dysprosia 05:18, 4 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for letting me know. So, always make sure I have a extra comment. Maybe it may help for me to make account also. How do you even know that I added it? <moved from User page by Cyan>

Have a look at Special:Recentchanges :) You may want to discuss what major events may happen in the 29th century or something.
You can make a new account by clicking here.
Thanks Dysprosia 05:27, 4 Dec 2003 (UTC)

What's about moving that exciting news to Republic of China? In article Taiwan, it says: This article is about the geographical island of Taiwan. --YACHT 14:45, Dec 4, 2003 (UTC)

k, done. By the way that whole RoC/Taiwan thing was confusing :) Dysprosia 14:52, 4 Dec 2003 (UTC)
Wow, In my opinion, Taiwan==ROC. BTW, there is also an article Homosexuality in China#Taiwan about that. ;) --YACHT 15:11, Dec 4, 2003 (UTC)
Well, I'm totally out of the loop with the whole Taiwan/China thing :) Dysprosia 15:13, 4 Dec 2003 (UTC)
Don't worry, someone's keeping watching them (not me) . :) --YACHT 15:19, Dec 4, 2003 (UTC)

Hi, I like what you've done with Once in a Lifetime. Maybe I was too hasty in blanking it, but I guess I have this idea that if I'm going to be an admin (which now seems possible, if not likely) I should keep an eye on all the anonymous edits in recent changes to show that I'm able to stay on top of things, and I'm feeling more than a little stressed out about that now. Maybe it wasn't the best idea. -- Pakaran 07:16, 5 Dec 2003 (UTC)

That was a very borderline case in my opinion. Sometimes you can salvage a bit of info from an odd edit and piece it with some stuff from What Links Here and you can end up with a decent stub, but don't feel to bad about blanking :) You know even if you do get admin you can restore del'd pages Dysprosia 07:23, 5 Dec 2003 (UTC)~
Good point, thanks. -- Pakaran 07:24, 5 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Yeah no problem. I didn't think to re-add the notice as I actually deleted the page and recreated it. Thanks for making the page into something sensible. Angela. 04:15, 6 Dec 2003 (UTC)


"Encyclopedic"[edit]

Hi Dysprosia and Muriel,

Thanks for your encouragement and patience with me.

Perhaps I am in for a bit of a paradigm shift here.

Bear in mind that before I came to Wikimedia last night and logged in for the first time, I had put a lot of thought into what my team's encyclopedia would be.

For those that might be reading this without a context, let me refer you to a project I am founding called PureEnergySystems. It is an open sourcing of technology related to alternative energy, and would include an encyclopedia to reflect the latest and best thinking on any topic related to alternative energy (specifically free energy).

What I had in mind for my own encyclopedia was to be both comprehensive and concise.


All entries would be stored for retrieval, but the editorial process would present the main contents in a clean fashion, and with preference.

That way, discards of info someone thought to be irrelevant or wrong, which were in fact very relevant and very right, would still be accessible to the diligent searcher needing just the right clue to take his/her next step in their research and development.

My encyclopedia idea was built with the idea of fostering the advancement of technology while also reporting on its advancements.

Mine wasn't a free-for-all (anyone able to make changes instantaneously), but would be an editor-screened submission process.

All submissions would go into a pool for retrieval by anyone, but only the editor-approved submissions would become a part of the featured listing.

After working with Wikipedia for a day, I can see advantages to allowing anyone to do just about anything by way of submission and review. I can also see disadvantages. I'm guessing that overall it is a better model.

Is there any way I could have audience with the founder of Wikipedia and discuss together some of the basic concepts and tactics?

I doubt that the editing model of the Wikipedia will change in the way that you describe here, unless there was considerable groundswell. Perhaps you need to start your own project. You seem to have a lot of initiative which is commendable, so you might want to seriously look into that.
If you're looking for the "founder" (don't know if this is what you mean), but User:Jimbo Wales is the Benevolent Dictator for the Wikipedia. Seek his user page and leave him a message if you so desire.

I don't see any appeal process built into Wikipedia. There should be a "hold" before delete. There should be an appeal allowed when someone is blocked from editing a page (e.g. I cannot edit the fire extinguisher page)

Precisely for what the Wikipedia:Votes for deletion page is. You get five days holding. See Wikipedia:Deletion policy.
As to fire extinguisher - if you have a problem with reversions and so on, you should bring it up on the talk page or with the editor in question.

It seems the idea of top notch conciseness and quality could be paired with the idea of comprehensiveness.

Why not have the encyclopedia list every person alive on the planet? Are we not all equal in God's sight?

Because that's not what an encyclopedia is for - it logs historical events and people and ideas. To be all koanesque - if an idea forms in someones mind, and there is no one there to hear it - is it an important idea? Anyway, logging everyone there is and was is just not technically feasible.

What makes Monica Lewinsky "better" than me? In my opinion, my listing is of value and benefit to mankind. She played her role in our nations country, and it deserves an entry; and so have I, and so do I.

No, I've not been published; but not because my work is not of value. Rather, because it is so far-reaching, most won't touch it.

I have a quote on my website: "He who is one step ahead is a genius. He who is two steps ahead is a crack pot." There is a lot of "rough around the edges" when you are a pioneer out in front breaking new ground.

Call me an egomaniac, but I have lived more than a dozen years as an activist for causes in which I believe; and though I might get the Media's attention, I am making a big difference.

Who was Monica Lewinsky before she was noticed? Monica Lewinsky.

Who was she afterward? Monica Lewinsky -- but with some fame upon which she could ride, illicit as it was.

Who is to judge what person deserves and entry and who does not?

Entry into the Wikipedia? The Wikipedia community. Cf the What Wikipedia is not link above: Wikipedia will report about your work once it becomes part of accepted human knowledge.

Think of the great artists and composers who died in poverty and broken hearted, only to have their music or art become classics beloved by the world.

They were not hardly worth a footnote in their day -- or so those around them thought.

They are great because they were great. If you believe you can change the world and be great - you should do so - and if you are as great as they are, the Wikipedia will acknowledge you. Perhaps not now - perhaps you are "not hardly worth a footnote" in your day, but perhaps this may change.
The key point now is, unfortunately, for now, the Wikipedia cannot recognize you. What have we to go on? What kind of resources do we have to acknowledge you? For the Wikipedia to be an academically respected work, we work in the manner of academia. Predominantly, we acknowledge the well-known great work of others before our times. We acknowledge the peer-reviewed great work of others in our time today. We cannot acknowledge your work since it is relatively unknown, and it is not peer-reviewed.
Do not take this all as discouragement. All I have tried to do here is let you realise the concepts and process underlying the inclusion of content in the Wikipedia. I am sure you have much to contribute to the Wikipedia, and I hope that the manner of your contributions will be more acceptable to the Wikipedia community. Newton said that he got where he was because he stood on the shoulders of giants - if you are truly great then you too stand on the sholders of the giants and you are well acquainted of them. I think this is an excellent place to start your contributions :)

I should probably get to bed. I only had three hours of sleep last night I was so excited to get up in the morning and explore the power of Wikipedia.

I guess the question I ask at this point is, Will Wikipedia consider a change of focus -- if only for the Free Energy portion of its site -- complete with disclaimer if it prefers -- and allow a combination of comprehensiveness and conciseness? Or do I need to start looking at maybe discussing the use of your source code so we can save some time in the creation of our own system?

I doubt it. You can create your own system sure. The Wikipedia software is free software. You can download the system yourself: Here's the SF page.

Let me mention that I know of several free energy technologies that are about to break out (they have working models but are preparing a more refined edition for release to the world), and the reason I created www.pureenergysystems.com was to provide a home for an open sourcing site; and along with that came the idea of the encyclopedia and academy and library and PAC, etc. When those break out, it will change the way the world looks at energy. No longer will it be scarcity. It will be abundance.

By the way, where do I go to edit my personal profile for review?

I'm not sure what you mean. Dysprosia 10:47, 6 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Sterling Sterlingda 10:21, 6 Dec 2003 (UTC)


Dysprosia - the Chaos Computer Club (CCC) is not a stub, it's a redundant article, as Chaos Computer Club already exists. What's the procedure for correcting this? - Isomorphic 11:49, 6 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Merge nonredundant information to the correct article and redirect the old to the newer. If the older just duplicates the newer you can generally just redirect the older to the newer without merging. Done so with the above - thanks for pointing itout :) Dysprosia 11:56, 6 Dec 2003 (UTC)
No problem. Thanks for doing the correction. I'll go look at what you did, for future reference. Isomorphic 12:01, 6 Dec 2003 (UTC)

How was 195.92.168.177 able to post after you had banned him? RickK 03:05, 7 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Timing. I blocked *.177 at 3:03 WST and that person posted at 3:01. I thought I'd give this person one last chance to saddle-up-and-fly-right but after that comment I decided it's best that they be blocked. Any further *.17x edits popping up I'm going to block today also. Haven't got time for nasty mess. Dysprosia 03:07, 7 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Thankyou, and I don't mean to interfere with admnistrative issues, but isn't it reasonable to institute some sort of more permanent ban, considering the nature of what he did? After all, should a logged in user do the same thing they would most probably recieve a permanent ban, and I don't see any reason why there should be any difference in the response. I do truly thank you for your prompt response. His comment deeply offended me. As I said on the vandalism page, I can tolerate many things and insults, however I am understandably sensitive when someone makes an attack based on a disability.Leumi 03:13, 7 Dec 2003 (UTC)
Unfortunately it doesn't work like that. All anonymous IP blocks expire after 24 hours, even if the vandalism they performed was light or heavy. Even for known vandals (such as Michael who occasionally use anon IPs this is the case). I am sorry to hear that the user offended you and do not worry that if this person continues to vandalize articles they will be repeatedly blocked.
Anon IP blocks expire like this to give the user a chance to reform their activities and principly to allow legit users on a shared IP to use the Wikipedia normally. Dysprosia 03:19, 7 Dec 2003 (UTC)
Ah. I understand. Well, hopefully the issue won't occur again. Thankyou for taking action so quickly. Leumi 03:20, 7 Dec 2003 (UTC)
No problem :) Dysprosia 03:22, 7 Dec 2003 (UTC)

¡Sorry!

Formating is not my forte.

?alabio 04:15, 7 Dec 2003 (UTC)


My bad, I never stumbled across that rule. I figured it was a newbie markup mistake. Thanks --Pakaran 05:14, 7 Dec 2003 (UTC)

No problem. I don't think it's quite a rule, per se, but a general unspoken guideline, it seems :) Dysprosia 05:16, 7 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Thanks for your answers Sterlingda 07:42, 8 Dec 2003 (UTC)


Oh- I get it now. My bad. Is Pascal's Triangle any better? Mit2b 07:57, 8 Dec 2003 (UTC)~


Much better, but there's already an article at Pascals triangle. Don't worry, I'll merge the two. Dysprosia 08:00, 8 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Are you confused? Did you miss what just went on there? -- Tim Starling 08:44, Dec 8, 2003 (UTC)

Text communication tends to be ambiguous without smileys :) Subtle humour is very difficult. How about ;)? -- Tim Starling 08:52, Dec 8, 2003 (UTC)
I think that's a good idea, as stuff seems so funny to me when I think of it Dysprosia 08:55, 8 Dec 2003 (UTC)



Thanks for editing my Blanche Bruce article. Im new to wikipedia and can use all the help i can get. Greenmountainboy 03:44, 9 Dec 2003 (UTC)


Hi Dysprosia, thanks for editing my Basingstoke edit :-) Like the user above, I'm new so help is always welcome. Just a quick note that the underscores in the link were the previous editor's (though I didn't spot them myself!) - my underscore was buried in a non-text link ... is there any style guide on these or doesn't it matter? On another point, I want to add my location to the wiki-user list - do I just edit the page containing the list or should I be doing it another way? Thanks. Spellbinder 5:20, 9 Dec 2003 (UTC)

No problem. Sorry bout that, thought it was your edit :) And, yes indeed there's the style guide at Wikipedia:Manual of Style.
Of course you can add your location/name/etc at the wiki-user list! That's what it's all about :)
Thanks, Dysprosia 05:24, 9 Dec 2003 (UTC)
Thanks for the quick reply; I feel part of the community already :-)
Spellbinder 5:35, 9 Dec 2003 (UTC)

It was indeed me - note I claimed the edit right below. I was testing that proxyweb showed as that IP number. -- Pakaran 05:53, 9 Dec 2003 (UTC)

I thought you were the one doing the vandalism! :) Dysprosia 05:54, 9 Dec 2003 (UTC)
No, I have a life :) was getting ready to ban the addy. Pakaran 05:55, 9 Dec 2003 (UTC)

I have an idea how to perma-block that proxyweb IP, but I probably need to unblock it first. OK with you? - Hephaestos 06:20, 9 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Go ahead, though I don't like the idea of perma-blocking. Dysprosia 06:24, 9 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Big indeed! Thanks for catching my format goofs. Aside: Reading through all this must be a bother. Sorry -- am trying to be consistent with the Metaweb entries, One amusing thing about Playgirl is one editor and I had similar snail mail names and addresses. In 1977 -- I got the mockup for the lifesize nude Peter Lupus bedsheets delivered to my home. Intimidating. Sparky 08:32, 9 Dec 2003 (UTC)


Hi Dysprosia,

See vote to delete page Dec. 8 > Free Energy Project.

I've added a neutral comment you made on my talk page as a neutral comment following Angela's pro comment.

Presently the vote is 6:4

What would be your vote? I'm curious.

Sterlingda 08:57, 9 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Thank you for welcoming me. Greenmountainboy

I never checked my talk and started, so I am here to say sorry, you can add me when it comes out, but it is still coming out, that's what matters! Jack Zhang


Thanks for the note on 'links' vs 'link'. I sit corrected :) Salsa Shark 21:09, 10 Dec 2003 (UTC)


-

Hello Dysprosia

thanks for your input...I didn't know about wikibooks. I'll put the entry in there (can regular wiki entries point to wikibook pages?)

Robinh 22:41, 11 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Make sure you link it in properly. There's already some prelim content there. Wiki entries can link to wikibooks pages, sure. Dysprosia 22:44, 11 Dec 2003 (UTC)



dvorak keyboard[edit]

hi Dysprosia,

on the dvorak keyboard page, i think there are these issues:

  • certain application that has key commands based on the qwerty arrangement will be screwed on the dvorak arrangement. For example, vi's "jkl;" for cursor movement will no longer be under the home row of right hand, or that 'w' 'a' 's' 'd' for games will no longer forms a inverted T on the left hand side. (For vi, this present no problem. For vi, the cursors movement is on the 'cvpj' location of the qwerty keyboard. Possibly less conveient, but one gets used to. (vi shouldn't hard code things in the first place. I use vi fine, though i'm mostly emacs user (in emacs, you can define your own keymap or command combos in anyway you like. But i use default fine.)))
  • when switching to dvorak, the combination key shortcuts will have to be relearned separately from the touch typing. (for this reason, there exist mac keymappings that comes with mac os that types qwerty when modifier keys are down.)

in your edit of the article, the first point is not clearly stated, and last info is lost.

this website http://www.mwbrooks.com/dvorak/variations.html the second on "command and controls" has a good explanation. (when i switched about 1993, i had the same experience. But eventually switched to full dvorak.)

Xah P0lyglut 08:05, 2003 Dec 12 (UTC)
I don't quite understand: the issue as I see it is that is not that one can get used to newer layouts, it is that for a QWERTY user wanting to switch to Dv will take longer to get the same level of proficiency under QWERTY. I can add the bit about changing mappings (under vi it's not exactly hardcoded, either) if you like? If my edit's unclear, how can I fix it? Dysprosia 08:17, 12 Dec 2003 (UTC)

For the dovrak, i'm thinking that there are two things that may surprise a potential switcher: 1) the pressing of key-combination or key-shortcuts needs to be learned separately from touch-type dvorak. 2) on some apps, a rearrangement of keyboard may disrupt certain positional advantages of the keys presses that surves as commands. (e.g. vi's 'jkl;' or the inverted T of 'wasd' in games.)

how do reset the cursor keys in vi? Perhaps vim? as far as i know, the cursor kesy are hard compiled in vi.

thanks for the encarta note and edit.

In vi, you can use :map. I'm not sure if all vi clones support it though. You can set up an .exrc file to fix it. I haven't seriously tested it, though.
Re the dvorak, I did mention that in my edit, but I'll write something about the games. Dysprosia 04:29, 13 Dec 2003 (UTC)


thanks for the vi note. For the games, it often override OS keymaps anyway. Xah P0lyglut 05:11, 2003 Dec 13 (UTC)

hi Dys, is there a way to rename images? just upload single-handed dvorak, but got the name wrong. thanks. Xah P0lyglut 05:56, 2003 Dec 13 (UTC)

Not obviously, but I can delete the image for you and you can upload it again. Would you like me to do that? Dysprosia 06:08, 13 Dec 2003 (UTC)
thanks. Xah



thanks for cleaning up after me :-) Mike 08:01, 2003 Dec 14 (UTC)



Thanks for your help with Snowflake Paladin 11:40, 14 Dec 2003 (GMT)

Um...the "Big Blue Machine" that I meant on the Recent Changes page was the Ontario Conservative party political machine that ran the province until 1985...not a hockey team. Vancouverguy 03:56, 15 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Don't look at me, I didn't fill the stub :) You want me to back-disambig it? Dysprosia 03:57, 15 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Feel free :)...the only reason I put this on your talk page was because the person who created the stub probably doesn't know about the political meaning of the term. Vancouverguy 04:00, 15 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Wikilinks (and wikitext) in MediaWiki: pages work on a case by case basis. It depends on whether the source calls the addWikiText or the addHTML function. Unfortunately this is not documented, so you'll have to go with trial by error.—Eloquence 07:28, Dec 15, 2003 (UTC)

Thanks! Very interesting :) Dysprosia 07:41, 15 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Please take a look at Jafa[edit]

Could you please take a look at Jafa, and especially note it's original entry. I suspect you may have a better idea what to do than I (I'm your typical stay-at-home US American), but I'm fairly certain it's not appropriate as it is. Thanks.

-Anthropos 15:47, 15 Dec 2003 (UTC)
Fixed up. No problems :) Dysprosia 22:37, 15 Dec 2003 (UTC)

External links[edit]

Regarding the article about AMORC's Respected Grand Master Julie Scott, S.R.C.: Actually I don't care much whether the External links section will be a header (==External links==) or subheader (===External links===) but I need to know which one is preferred. Also discussed at Timwi's talk page here. Because right now all of the articles I am maintaining are formatted with External links as a subsection under See Also, I always use this way for consistency. Consistency and structure is important for me. In my idea External links should be a subheader under See Also. It's more logical, especially if the article is converted in XML where structure is crucial and may be processed by special software. Suppose that I create some software for automatically removing See Also and External Links sections from all articles. it would be much easier to do that if External links would be under See Also (the software could just delete See Also and all subsections under it, instead of running two iterations of the deleting-code to delete See Also and External Links, so it could be more efficient). If there is some formal policy about External links, please let me know and give me its URL, I will follow it. If there is no formal policy yet, I suggest to start a special talk thread and take some decision on this issue.

It's ==External links==. See Wikipedia:Manual of Style. Dysprosia 05:22, 17 Dec 2003 (UTC)
Yes! Thank you for letting me know about the policy. I am changing all the articles I maintain to the ==External links== style. Best wishes and Peace Profound, Optim 05:34, 17 Dec 2003 (UTC)
No problem :) Dysprosia 05:39, 17 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Eastern Freshwater Cod[edit]

done the links and taxotable on the above... and added a whole lot more cod that aren't cod to the cod page, if you see what I mean, and if you were hoping to get that lot tidied up... seglea 07:59, 18 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Looks like you done a good job, no need :) Dysprosia 09:03, 18 Dec 2003 (UTC)

crimen[edit]

Thanks for the pretty formatting of the crimen article (which I just created)!

No problem :) Thanks for creating it! Dysprosia 09:52, 18 Dec 2003 (UTC)

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in your welcome messages or should I not even bother trying?—Eloquence

Yes, you can convince me. And you have :) Dysprosia 11:20, 18 Dec 2003 (UTC)
Great! I hope eventually this gets so much exposure that it becomes a challenge for everyone to try their hands on completing the tasks of the day.—Eloquence

Thanks for the welcome[edit]

Stanly Phanly from Manly says thanks for the welcome. just love the concept of Wiki's. Told my son about Wikipedia but he already knew becasue he had been looking up info Black Flag, a band. Phanly


"The edits you are making to the Feminism article are not adhering to our Neutral point of view policy, and are likely to be removed.

Please try and write criticism that adheres to the NPOV policy."

On the contrary, my edits adhere fully to the NPOV policy - whereas the article as it was was completely uncritical and almost celebratory

Thanks for moving US poetry. Thats what I get for coming back here before my flu-ridden fever fully cleared up. Bmills 09:29, 22 Dec 2003 (UTC)

*grin* No problem :) Dysprosia 09:59, 22 Dec 2003 (UTC)