User talk:Eccekevin

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Sorin Hall (University of Notre Dame)[edit]

I have removed your AfD template fom the top of this article, and deleted WP:Articles for deletion/Sorin Hall (University of Notre Dame), because those would only be appropriate if you were proposing that the article should be deleted from Wikipedia, and it is plain that that is not what you want. (If I have completely misunderstood, tell me and I will restore them both, and complete the AfD nomination process by adding it to the daily log).

If what you disagree with is the conversion of the article into a redirect, that is simply a content dispute, and the guideline for what you should do is WP:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle. User Ansh666 (talk) boldly made it into a redirect; you have reverted him; if he disagrees with that, the next step should be a discussion on the article talk page.

However, I should say that a hall does not become notable just by saying so: the test is whether there is evidence of "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject," including from outside the local, University environment.

Halls of residence are not often considered notable in Wikipedia's sense. A number of other articles about UND halls have been discussed at AfD, resulting in redirects, e.g. Alumni Hall, Stanford Hall, Dillon Hall, Siegfried Hall. I think that would be the likely result if this one went to AfD; the best thing you can do to protect it would be to find independent references. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 21:04, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

I should add that reverting was OK here because this redirect was not the result of an AfD discussion. In cases like the four I listed, where the redirect is the result of an AfD (you can tell from the history), you should not simply undo the redirect. If you disagree with the result of an AfD, you should first approach the administrator who closed it; then, if you are still not satisfied, there is WP:Deletion review. JohnCD (talk) 21:24, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

Re your comments on my talk page: Alumni Hall (University of Notre Dame) and Badin Hall (University of Notre Dame) were both redirected as the result of AfD discussions, which JohnCD was kind enough to link above for you. These should not be undone without taking the steps he outlined above. Just be glad that I haven't taken the rest to AfD either. I won't be reverting you anymore, but know that what you are doing goes against established Wikipedia procedure. 6an6sh6 02:06, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

That you found additional sources has no bearing on the fact that the articles went through an AfD discussion. You still need to carry out the requisite procedures before they can be reversed. 6an6sh6 02:24, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
You may wish to comment [1]. 6an6sh6 21:56, 19 February 2014 (UTC)