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Welcome![edit]

Hi Epa101, and a warm welcome to Wikipedia! I hope you have enjoyed editing as much as I did so far and decide to stay. Unfamiliar with the features and workings of Wikipedia? Don't fret! Be Bold! Here's some good links for your reference and that'll get you started in no time!

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Oh yes, don't forget to sign when you write on talk pages, simply type four tildes, like this: ~~~~. This will automatically add your name and the time after your comments. And finally, if you have any questions or doubts, don't hesitate to contact me on my talk page. Once again, welcome! =)

- Mailer Diablo 16:27, 17 July 2005 (UTC)


Miners[edit]

Thanks for your help with the miners article, you too obviously have some very good source knowledge, maybe , like me,lived there at the time etc. Your information about the police asking about political affinity is spot on!

Ukbn2 10:06, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Immanuel Kant and great philosophers[edit]

Hi Epa101. Thank you for your recent contribution regarding Immanuel Kant and the great philosophers in the Obsessive-compulsive disorder article. It would be great if you could provide a source/reference for this information in the article; there have been some problems in the past in the famous/celebrity section regarding verifiability (See for example Talk:Obsessive-compulsive disorder#The Celebrity List Again). I do not doubt the validity of your edit, but it would set good precedent for other editors of this section if you could include a reference for the information. If you need help, see Wikipedia:Citing sources or you can reply below with the information and I can put it in for you. Thanks again!--GregRM 21:17, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

While searching for a source to support your addition, I came across this reference which seems to suggest that Kant did not have OCD. In light of this information, I removed your addition to Talk:Obsessive-compulsive disorder#Unsourced famous potential OCD sufferers. You are welcome to discuss the issue and contribute your knowledge regarding this matter in this section if you desire; if you have a suitably strong reference/source we may be able to return this information to the main article.--GregRM 23:16, 19 July 2006 (UTC)


Utilitarianism[edit]

Hi - I notice you added 'This argument has been revived by Richard Rorty's work' to the section in Utilitarianism on Marx's argument about human nature. It wasn't clear what argument you meant or how Rorty is relevant, to be honest, so I've cut your addition for the moment. I'm happy to be shown how I'm wrong, though, so feel free to reply at my talk page. Cheers, Sam Clark 10:36, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Hello again. Thanks for your response. I now see what you were getting at, and you're right that it'd be worth mentioning, but perhaps in the body of the section (and, as you say, with a reference). Cheers, Sam Clark 13:18, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Articles on accents[edit]

When you add material to articles on accents, could you add references to the article at the same time? Most of your additions seem plausible (though I'm sceptical that RP is based on Northamptonshire accents, given what the people I've met from Kettering sound like) but it would be nice to have sources.--JHJ 17:25, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

I've heard the thing about the South-East Midlands many times.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/northyorkshire/voices2005/glossary/barrie_rhodes.shtml "Standard English is nothing more or less than a particular dialect from the South East Midlands". The three counties that I specifically identified were based on B.B.C. Voices: the book "Talking for Britain", Simon Elmes, p.114 I can't say that I've ever met anyone from Kettering. As it is in north Northamptonshire, it seems peripheral to the Standard English area that was described in the book, and probably not too big a problem. Epa101 17:51, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the sources.--JHJ 18:46, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Mill Town[edit]

Hi, many thanks for the contact.

I do agree with your view - and I believe (though am unsure exactly) that Sky and the BBC (and I suspect some of the middle-class national papers) have used the expression Mill town in this way.

However, I know for certain that someone will come along in the near future and challenge it on the grounds that they may never heard of this; a reference (or ideally two/three), would simply prove this statement and back up this view.

I'm uncertain of your level of experience on Wikipedia, but I would say that there are a few policies which dictate why this should be. WP:V is one, another is Wikipedia:Citing sources. As I say, you may however be familiar with these.

I'd take a look at Oldham Riots (which is very much linked to this article and one which I've contributed significantly to) which indicates roughly the amount of sourcing which would be expected for a B-class standard article, and how to present such a topic.

A source wouldn't necessarily need to be found imminently - but it is best to keep the tag in place whilst one is found, as this would help say a serious researcher who is unfamiliar with the topic to know that it has not been checked.

I'll try to take a look for a source, though if you could aid in this I'd be very grateful.

Thanks for contributions, keep up the good work! Jhamez84 00:27, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Accents[edit]

Excellent work on the Mill town article. I knew sources would exist for this as I remember vaugley the term being used in such a way! Great stuff - thanks for that contribution!

With regards to accents - my immediate concern is that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia based upon verfiability and other such ideals. However, accents are not an exact science.

There are also issues of say, what constitutes an Oldham accent, is it based upon the exact town proper, or the wider Metropolitan Borough of Oldham (which includes other towns and even parts annexed from Yorkshire itself!). Also, as you no doubt are aware, Oldham and other such towns have high ethnic minority populations - do their accents legitimately form part of or influence what is an Oldham accent?

I'm not challenging such articles, but I am thinking outside of the box, so to speak/type (!), and these could be pitfalls which one may face.

I guess that I could confirm to an extent that (broadly) Oldham does have a Rhotic accent. Though I would add that it's unusual proximity to Yorkshire, Cheshire, Manchester and Derbyshire means that the accent for the area is not strictly a Lancastrian one. Indeed, I'm lucky/unlucky enough when travelling to be assumed to be Mancunian because of my accent - which happens rather consistently!

I'm certainly interested in your projects and ideas for this, and would like to work closely on it if you feel I could help? Hope I have done so, so far. Thanks for the contact and support. Do please get back in touch! Jhamez84 23:48, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Fair use image in user namespace[edit]

Hello!

You have used a fair use image in your user namespace (Image:Augusto Pinochet official portrait.jpg in User talk:Epa101). Criterion 9 of the Wikipedia:Fair use criteria states that "Fair use images may be used only in the article namespace. Used outside article space, they are not covered under the fair use doctrine." I have replaced it with a free image (Image:Augusto Pinochet.jpg).

Sincerely, --Oden 20:48, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Trap-bath split in the South-East[edit]

I removed your bit about Sussex and the trap-bath split from English English because the links you used do in fact show it: they show a long [aː] (like a lengthened form of the Yorkshire short vowel) in the BATH words, whereas TRAP words have a short [a] or [æ]. This isn't quite like RP and similar accents, which have a long back [ɑː] in the BATH words, but it still shows the split. I noticed you added something similar to Estuary English; was there another source?--JHJ 17:15, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Untagged image[edit]

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Survey of English Dialects[edit]

Thanks very much for creating the entry in the first place. Last autumn, I wrote my master's thesis on paradigms of to be in the SED and I would have loved to find a kickstart on the topic at wikipedia. I decided to create the article as soon as I would have finished my exams, but they are still going on. Now I won't have to do that, will I? Symkyn 07:08, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

secular islam[edit]

Epa101, the "secular islam" video is available on youtube and warraq is featured in the video as well. I am 100% it is him. Do a youtube search for secular islam and you'll see him and all the other infamous islam bashers.

xad —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xad (talkcontribs) 10:38, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

About the ISIS website[edit]

Thanks to you. Interestingly enough is the second link, where Ibn Warraq graciously quotes Michael Leeden, a peaceful hardworker in the innocent cause of "war on terror", and who is very likely particularily well documented on that subject. Wikipedia has quite interesting articles on these matters. TwoHorned (talk) 12:11, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Dialect Test[edit]

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Elsecar[edit]

Hi Epa101. Thanks for raising the issue with the pronunciation of Elsecar. I'm not familiar with that part of the country, but Rhotic and non-rhotic accents would support some Yorkshire accents being rhotic. Just thought I'd mention it. --Northernhenge (talk) 19:28, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

List of names in English with counterintuitive pronunciations is being considered for deletion[edit]

Since you've contributed quite a bit to the list, you may be interested in joining the discussion. Thanks. Afasmit (talk) 03:03, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Apparently, I was a bit late with my notification to other contributors, but it didn't hurt: the article has survived based on "no consensus". The proponents for deletion were not too sure about it anyway. I'll make some improvements in the near future (hide mere non-obvious pronunciations and add non-IPA pronunciation guides as I'd done for the personal names). Cheers, Afasmit (talk) 17:15, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Largest village article - similar claims[edit]

Hi, please can you reference your source for list of largest towns without railway stations. This article is generally suffering from a lack of references to claims being made, and hence the claims could be just made up with no basis. It doesn't matter to the article that the claims are untrue (only one village can be the largest, only one town without a railway station can be the largest), but the fact the claim was made needs to be referenced. I'm afraid without a reference, this can only be taken as own research and will be deleted. Thank you. (I will check here for any responses) Halsteadk (talk) 12:24, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of List of collieries in Yorkshire 1984-present with dates of closure[edit]

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Cannibal Holocaust[edit]

Such information is hard to come by from a reliable source. This statistic, although plausible, is very dubious; the stat apparently comes from Deodato, but I've yet to encounter an interview with him in which he mentions this. As for the countries that did ban the film, these countries:

  • Australia
  • Italy
  • The Maldives
  • New Zealand
  • Norway
  • Singapore
  • UK

...are all confirmed by reliable sources as to have banned the film at some point. Other countries that are believed to have banned the film but lack an immediately ready and reliable source are:

  • Finland
  • Germany
  • Ireland
  • Malaysia
  • South Africa
  • Sweden
  • West Germany

This list of countries is unfit to be included on Wikipedia, as they have not been confirmed. Other countries where it has been rumored that the film was banned include:

  • Iceland
  • The Philippines

These two are even less fit to include.

As for films that weren't banned, the most significant would be Japan for the film's supposed box-office success. However, that statistic has yet to be confirmed. Helltopay27 (talk) 17:07, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

The United States doesn't ban films for censorship reasons, unless it falls under extreme exceptions that fall under the obscenity clause. Films that are banned in the United States for obscenity have mostly been extremely violent or perverse fetish pornography (i.e. the feature film version of 2girls1cup). As for conventional films, they can only be banned (i.e. barred from distribution) for civil reasons, such as slander, libel, or copyright infringement. Cannibal Holocaust was never banned in the United States (such an action would be impossible under the First Amendment) and in fact had a rather successful run on the grindhouse circuit in 1985. Helltopay27 (talk) 17:52, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Ethnic cleansing[edit]

I agree that the entry on settlement dismantlement should either be removed or altered to reflect other POVs which do not view it as ethnic cleansing. Making changes to that page is highly problematic however. I don't know if you noticed, but I did have an entry for Palestinians there that I spent days working on only to have User:IronDuke delete it. He didn't delete the entry for the Jewish exodus from Arab lands which we were also discussing and which is, in my opinion, much more problematic given the lack of scholarly sources discussing it in terms of ethnic cleansing. I haven't been able to discuss it with him since, because I'm frankly still angry about it.

Many thanks to you for re-adding the entry in a simpler form. If you do wish to work on those other entries, I will pitch in what I can. Be forewarned however, that people tend to let their POVs rather than reliable sources determine what goes into that page. Cheers. Tiamuttalk 11:19, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

All thanks go to you Epa101. Your fair approach to the article and the high quality sources you brought to the discussion are very much appreciated. I hope we can continue to improve that article and others together in the future. Happy editing. Tiamuttalk 09:34, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
Funny. I have that book in my library somehwere. I'll dig it and read those pages again. Perhaps we should add something to the entry on settlements from Pappe, if not remove the entry altogether. Tiamuttalk 13:41, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Expulsion of Germans after World War II[edit]

In the category "Death toll", I already placed the Expulsion a few hours before you, and it seems you didn't notice it and placed it too. Now the Expulsion appears twice (!) on the list. Should you correct it or should I do?--Justice and Arbitration (talk) 10:17, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Noticed your considered edits at some Romani related articles[edit]

RashersTierney (talk) 20:00, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

history of List of wars and disasters by death toll[edit]

I did not remove it as my comment in the edit history says "reviewed and edited the expulsion of Germans from Eastern Europe" -- PBS (talk) 23:33, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Not a problem, it can be difficult to see changes sometimes. BTW you are not correct on Hamburg and Dresden. There have been others particularly when the popular estimates for the number killed at Dresden rivalled those of the A-bombings. Frank Chalk and Kurt Jonassohn wrote on page 24 of their book The History and Sociology of Genocide "[our] definition of genocide also excludes civilian victims of aerial bombardment in belligerent states. In this we differ from Jean-Paul Sartre and Leo Kuper". Leo Kuper was give a metaphorical kicking over this by Telford Taylor, (a Counsel for the Prosecution at the Nuremberg Trials) when he wrote a review of Kuper's book for the NY Times in which he basically told Kuper to get back in his box ("When people kill a people", The New York Times, 28 March 1982). -- PBS (talk) 00:08, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
That article was written in 1982, the Americans ratified it in the late 80s and as the last member of the UN security council so to do, it allowed for the UN sanctioned International Tribunals of the 1990s and 2000s. As for Srebrenica genocide, for back ground reading see Bosnian Genocide and the Bosnian Genocide Case particularly the ECHR interpretation of the ICJ decision on Serbia in their judgement on Jorgic v. Germany. Basically Ethnic Cleansing under international law is not genocide unless it involve the biological destruction of a significant part of a protected group. What will be interesting given the ICJ and the ECHR rulings, is if the German courts will still use the wider definition of genocide that they used before those International courts made their rulings.
That is not to say that genocide scholars will not continue to use different definitions from that of the Genocide Convention, and therefore conclude that some events are genocide even if under international law it would not be, however I think that the body of international law built up in the late 1990s and 2000s will have a an affect on academic research (just as the term Ethnic Cleansing has been used in analysis of historical events like the Cromwellian conquest of Ireland since it became common coin 18 years ago). -- PBS (talk) 09:52, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Ward Churchill is discredited as a reliable source.

A problem we have a lot on Wikiepdia is ediots make up their minds that such and such is the correct definition for something and then go around adding people or events that fit their own view on the subject. See the very long debate on what is or is not terrorism, (specifically at WP:WTA, but it spills out onto the talk pages of terrorism articles). Also see the deletion debates over List of massacres.

Genocide is an unusual crime because it requires the prosecution to show what was in the mind of the person accused of genocide. Not only do they have to prove mass murder, but they also have to show that the motive for that mass murder was to destroy a protected group. So for it to be genocide one has to assess the what part means and the intent of the perpetrators. So for the examples you gave the My Lai massacre would fail the "in part" and the Allied bombing of Germany probably fails both but most certainly fails intent. Bosnia bought the Bosnian Genocide Case partly because they could not bring Serbia for crimes against humanity. But if you look ruling and those of the ITCY several times they find that crimes against humanity and war crimes have been committed or to put it in legal jargon there was actus reus they did not find enough evidence that the accused possessed genocidal intent mens rea. With crimes against humanity one only has to prove actus reus as it would take a real exception (like insanity or coercion) for there to be no mens rea.

But all this is academic because we do not have to decide whether it was or was not a genocide all we need to do is report that such and such an notable person thinks it was a genocide, and hopefully be able to show which one of the many genocide definitions they are using. If we do that then we can report on the UN general council finding that Sabra-Shatila, Lebanon or that the Ethnic cleansing in Bosnia was a genocide Bosnian Genocide#United Nations even if they are both highly controversial. It is covered by WP:ASF. The problem is that the list we have been looking at is a list and it does not easily lend itself to shades of grey that things like genocide need. -- PBS (talk) 06:32, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Talkback[edit]

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Porajmos[edit]

Re the new section Porajmos#Recognition, perhaps it should appear closer to the start, for benefit of readers not entirely familiar with the concept. Maybe immediately following 'Using the term'? What do you think? RashersTierney (talk) 11:48, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

You're Getting Old[edit]

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BBC Pronunciation and BBC English[edit]

Hi, thanks for your message. I hope I am following the right procedure to send you a reply. I am, as you can see, very new to this, though keen to learn. My main concern at present is the "Accent" section of "Norfolk Dialect", which needs some sorting out.

For some reason I thought the change back to "BBC English" had been made by someone called Q Chris, so I sent a reply to him or her. Sorry about that!

It is true that in the English Pronouncing Dictionary I make use of the term BBC English, but I also use (and prefer) BBC Pronunciation and BBC Accent. In the latest edition, the 18th (2011) on p. vi, I wrote " The accent of British English that we describe in this dictionary is called BBC Pronunciation ... It is also sometimes referred to in this section as BBC English or BBC accent ...

Now that I have had this brought to my attention, I regret having used "BBC English", for the same reason that I regret "The Queen's English" is used in the Wikipedia article on Received Pronunciation. These terms could also apply to grammar and vocabulary, and I should have used the term which refers exclusively to pronunciation. I will change this in the dictionary.

Thanks and best wishes,

Peter RoachPeter (talk) 18:08, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

Norfolk Accent[edit]

Hi, I mentioned that I was hoping to tidy up the material on "Accent" in the Norfolk Dialect entry. I have now finished the rewriting, in consultation with Profs Trudgill and Lodge of UEA. At the moment it's in ordinary text, and I must put it into a form where I can edit it into Wikipedia. If you had time to look at it before I start work on that, it would be much appreciated. I think the simplest thing would be for you to let me have an email address I could send a PDF version to, but if you have a different suggestion I would be happy to follow. Peter — Preceding unsigned comment added by RoachPeter (talkcontribs) 11:06, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

Hello, yes, the feature of glottalization is very noticeable in Norfolk, and I have spent some time trying to write it up correctly. I have decided to leave doing my major rewrite of the Norfolk accent until I am back at base in Norwich, as I am away in my holiday home in France and separated from my books. I will be returning next Wednesday. There is a lot I could say about glottalization in general - many years ago I did my PhD on the subject! It is very difficult to disentangle glottalization, glottal reinforcement, glottal replacement, glottalling and pre-glottalization, unfortunately. Just at the moment I seem to be getting a bit overwhelmed by all the information about English phonetics scattered around Wikipedia, and the number of things that need correcting. Peter Roach. RoachPeter (talk) 17:56, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Yorkshire accent[edit]

The material on Yorkshire accents looks good. It's quite nostalgic looking at it, as I taught at Leeds Univ. from 1978 to 1994. I'll go through it at leisure and make a few comments. The main comment I have just now concerns the devoicing of voiced consonants. I don't think it is parallel to the final devoicing in German, Dutch and Polish, as it is, I believe, conditioned by the following consonant being voiceless. So the word 'wide' in isolation ends in /d/, but in 'wide trousers' the first word ends in [t] and there is no difference between 'wide trousers' and 'white trousers'. I remember being shocked hearing a local in Bridlington order a crab sandwich in a cafe! On other matters - I'm sorry to say things have not been going well for me on Wikipedia. I got busy on a number of topics, and also tried to get some other professional phoneticians to join in. Unfortunately I tried to make some wide-ranging changes to the article on Reduced Vowels in English, which seemed to me to have some serious weaknesses. This seemed to bother an editor called KwamiKagami who kept turning down the draft changes I was putting in my sandbox, and in the end his counter-arguments seemed so unhelpful that I told him that I was quitting and leaving the article unchanged. I had decided that I wasn't going to do any more editing, and it's just by chance that I noticed a message from you. I think perhaps English accents are less controversial topics. RoachPeter (talk) 16:46, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

Alternative transcriptions[edit]

Thanks for your message (i'd much rather be called Peter). The subject is much on my mind at the moment, and I risk going on for hours about it. Geoff Lindsey's work is very well reasoned and backed up by careful observation. I have been meaning to ask him if he is going to put his ideas in a "proper" publication. BTW, your link to his article didn't work for me, so I'm not sure which of his postings you are thinking of. As for a WP mention, I think it would be quite appropriate to have a section on the subject of why the transcription system used for RP/BBC has been more or less fixed for so long (I would date the unofficial agreement to the 1970's). This could mention various published mentions of this agreement and point to some recent attempts to modernise it, mentioning the OUP dictionary innovations, Geoff's ideas and one or two other authorities that I have noticed.

There is no doubt in my mind that change is due, and I feel a bit guilty that my 'English Phonetics and Phonology' textbook is helping to hold back such a change. Everyone would prefer a situation where we all agree to change together, but it's hard to see how we could manage it. It would need to be put forward by someone with the clout of John Wells, backed up by established names in the subject, and debated at a major conference. The major publishing houses would have to brought on board. I remember CUP turning down the transcription system I proposed to use for my book and insisting that I use the "Gimson system".

Just at the moment I am up to my ears in work producing a new edition of my CUP book (an enhanced ebook to run on iPad, with all examples of sounds, words, sentences etc. having audio when you tap on them), but when I get a break from that (I have just recorded 2500 audio files that have to be checked) I would be glad to cooperate in a suitable section for WP.

Best wishes, Peter — Preceding unsigned comment added by RoachPeter (talkcontribs) 12:55, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Hello,
Yes, Geoff’s blog articles are meant to provoke discussion, I think, and in places he sticks his neck out quite a way. BTW, the Geoff Lindsey page in WP is not for him. His own website is http://englishspeechservices.com/home.htm
I do think that discussion of the current “de facto” standard is worth a mention in the RP page. The subject comes up such a lot in John Wells’ blog, and in Jack Windsor Lewis’ “phonetiblogs”. In my English Phonetics and Phonology I wrote (in the 1980’s)
A problem area that has received a lot of attention is the choice of symbols for representing English phonemes. In the past, many different conventions have been proposed and students have often been confused by finding that the symbols used in one book are different from the ones they have learned in another. The symbols used in this book are in most respects those devised by A. C. Gimson for his Introduction to the Pronunciation of English, the latest version of which is the revision by Cruttenden (Cruttenden, 2008). These symbols are now used in almost all modern works on English pronunciation published in Britain, and can therefore be looked on as a de facto standard. Although good arguments can be made for some alternative symbols, the advantages of having a common set of symbols for pronunciation teaching materials and pronunciation entries in dictionaries are so great that it would be very regrettable to go back to the confusing diversity of earlier years.’ (EPP, 4th Ed., p 5).
There is a book written about the symbolization issue by a former student of mine (Systems for the Phonetic Transcription of English: Theory and Texts (Linguistic Insights: Studies in Language & Communication) Rafael Monroy-Casas (Author). I didn’t have many proposals for symbol change when I submitted my book to CUP. As far as I remember, I wanted (still do!) to use ‘a’ instead of ‘æ’, and /əː/ for /ɜː/
A bit off this subject, could I ask your views about the WP transcription proposed in ‘IPA for English’? When I first looked at it, I thought it was rather a mess, and it took me quite a while to understand what the transcription was actually designed to do. I now appreciate that it is an extremely difficult undertaking. I feel that if it is to be useful to everyone, it needs some sort of user-manual style introduction so that readers don’t write it off as too complicated, as I did. I feel the idea really needs some further development. Unfortunately that would, I think, bring it close to OR. That’s what makes me reluctant to start making suggestions for reworking the presentation.
Best wishes, Peter RoachPeter (talk) 14:40, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

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Received Pronunciation - Help![edit]

Hello, you have previously helped me with advice on contributing to WP in the area of phonetics. I am in a difficult situation at the moment - I contributed a recording of Received Pronunciation for the WP article on RP, and I have just been told it is going to be deleted because I didn't submit it with the right copyright declarations. I find the rules for such things terribly hard to understand. A friendly editor is trying to help me with this, but I really need some backup from someone who understands how things work. You will find all the relevant discussion on my Talk page. I would be grateful for any help or advice. RoachPeter (talk) 17:14, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

The relevant section on Peter’s talk page is here. —LiliCharlie (talk) 19:30, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

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