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Adding or changing to "Administrative republic"[edit]

Anyone doing this is almost always someone, or a small group of editors, from Rio de Janeiro adding terms from the video game Europa Universalis. There are other government related labels they add, but I note that this is one you reverted recently. Dougweller (talk) 11:30, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads-up; this certainly puts those edits into a new perspective. I'll keep that article on my watchlist for a while longer. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); March 9, 2015; 12:29 (UTC)
Thanks. They are editing from a couple of IP ranges. They use various other terms. Any Rio IP is suspect, to be honest. Also occasional copyvio. Dougweller (talk) 13:49, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
Posted this to another editor: For several years socks from Rio de Janeiro have been trying to add various terms from this videogame to articles, often (like the last few weeks) changing "autonomous republic" to "administrative republic". See [1] - now I'm not accusing you of being one of those, obviously, but you did add the wiki for Europa Universalis III to Administrative republic, which until mid February was Autonomous republic until a brand new editor came along and changed it. Since then a number of IP socks have been editing it. I'm not happy with that. It still contains a couple of country names which use 'autonomous' and not 'administrative', and although for Yugoslavia 'administrative' is sourced, most sources call them 'autonomous'.

I generally don't like undiscussed name changed, and this one was immediately jumped on by obvious socks. I'm tempted to revert, any comments? Dougweller (talk) 20:19, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

I moved it back. Such moves change the scope and should be discussed.--Ymblanter (talk) 20:48, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

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Thanks, guys. I'm trying :) Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); March 12, 2015; 18:39 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of Kalino, Russia[edit]

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The page is not a disambiguation page; it's a set index, so G6 does not apply.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); April 8, 2015; 13:27 (UTC)

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One from your home territory[edit]

Chapaevka, Kamchatka Oblast (Holm, 87th Motor Rifle Division, 2015.) The Chapaevka vehicle/equipment stores were located at 53 03 19N, 158 49 35E. There does not appear to be any disambig stub for Chapaevka en generale, which may be an oversight considering it seems like it might be a relatively common Russian name. Would you mind taking a look? Kind regards Buckshot06 (talk) 22:45, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

I guess the proper spelling is Chapayevka--Ymblanter (talk) 08:17, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
Over a thousand miles away from my home territory, but OK, close enough :) I've created Chapayevka, Russia, but please note that the place in Kamchatka Krai is currently a microdistrict of Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky (which is confusingly called a "settlement" of Chapayevka) and seems to have been merged into it at some point before 2001 (I couldn't find an exact date). Also seems that it was established in Yelizovsky District around 1959. Hope this helps.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); April 27, 2015; 15:10 (UTC)
Thankyou very much Ezhiki, and apologies for not saying so earlier. Now I've just located a picture of Stab DVO - closer to home, Kharbarovsk ;) - on the DVO page on Ruwiki. Could you remind me who the expert was on moving Ruwiki pictures to Commons? Buckshot06 (talk) 04:53, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
I can easily move a file.--Ymblanter (talk) 10:58, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
You are welcome, and no thanking is expected :) I quite enjoy digging these up. As for the images, Yaroslav should be able to help you. I haven't been following what's going on on the Commons for a while, and it seems all of my contacts there are wikidead.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); May 4, 2015; 13:12 (UTC)
The file in question for moving is http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Дальневосточный_военный_округ#/media/File:Штаб_ДВО.JPG ; moving all the pictures on the DVVO page would also be helpful. Ymblanter (talk · contribs), thankyou for your help with these!! Buckshot06 (talk) 05:18, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
File:Штаб ДВО.JPG is actually on Commons since 2012, will have a look at other files now.--Ymblanter (talk) 12:07, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
I transferred File:Штаб 5-й армии, Уссурийск.JPG and File:Хабаровск, 301-й окружной военный госпиталь.jpg. Everything else either was already on Commons, or is non-transferrable because of the freedom of panorama limitations.--Ymblanter (talk) 12:17, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
Very many thanks Ymblanter. I appreciate this a great deal. Buckshot06 (talk) 02:55, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

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Voronezh[edit]

Hey, Ezhiki, maybe you can help me with this? (I see you have made occasional edits to the Voronezh page) Is this piece really as grotesque as I make it (I am by no means fluent in Russian)? What's the deal with this Polyakova woman (I found her here posing with the Book of Veles)? Surely she isn't an actual historian? The Indo-European "water-deity" stuff goes back to this edit which added much to the confusion, and I have a hard time figuring out what is actually in the sources cited, what is contorted by journalism, and what is made-up for Wikipedia. I get the vibe that there is some local thing going on here with people trying to come up with a mysterious past, but I am confused. here, "Тайна имени Воронежъ" is listed as a novel, so perhaps this is innocent historical fantasy, and it was just some on-wiki foul-up that made this into an etymological study invoking Varanasi and Brian the Blessed?

Btw, woman from Voronezh once told me there is a local joke or fake etymology translating the name as "Ворон + Ёж". I thought based on your username maybe you know something about this? --dab (𒁳) 10:55, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

The piece from Polyakova is fringe and based on the Book of Veles which is a proven hoax. Polyakova seems to take it seriously and derive smth from it. There is absolutely no fucking way there was a Russian settlement in the area in the 12th century.--Ymblanter (talk) 11:01, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
I fully concur with Yaroslav. I also added a couple comments on Talk:Voronezh#Name and early history. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); May 4, 2015; 13:33 (UTC)

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Please comment on Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (definite or indefinite article at beginning of name)[edit]

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Wikidata weekly summary #157[edit]

Wikidata weekly summary #158[edit]

Signature date stamp[edit]

Hi Ezhiki,

I noticed that your signature inserts the date/time stamp in a non-standard format, using a <span> tag around the date followed by a semicolon before the time, e.g.:

Wikicode <span class="nowrap">May 20, 2015</span>; 18:33 (UTC)
Produces this May 20, 2015; 18:33 (UTC)

You may not realise that doing this breaks the Comments in Local Time gadget (enabled in Preferences), the Unclutter gadget (which customises the appearance of signatures) and customised style sheets, as they cannot recognise the Wikicode as a signature.

For example, signatures may appear to a user using these features as follows:

Wikicode
  • <small>—'''[[User:sroc|sroc]]''' [[User talk:sroc|💬]]</small> 16:11, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
  • --[[User:EncycloPetey|EncycloPetey]] ([[User talk:EncycloPetey|talk]]) 02:36, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
  • --[[User:T.seppelt|T.seppelt]] ([[User talk:T.seppelt#top|talk]]) 13:14, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
  • —[[User:Ezhiki|Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky)]] • ([[User talk:Ezhiki|yo?]]); <span class="nowrap">May 20, 2015</span>; 14:41 (UTC)
Produces this

Note how your signature appears differently from the others, the different time zones make it difficult to follow the relative times of each post, and the date isn't shown as "Today" or "Yesterday" where applicable. Note, too, that it is possible to customise the appearance of your signature for those who aren't using these gadgets (see how my name and talk link are formatted) without sacrificing this functionality for users who wish to take advantage of them.

Would you consider amending the formatting of your date/time stamp so that these features will work with your signature? sroc 💬 20:06, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

Hi, sroc! This actually came up before, and my answer is always the same. My philosophy is that if a tool does not work properly, the proper course of action is fixing the tool, not asking users to change their preferences (and a choice of a date format is a very personal preference). My signature, after all, uses a pretty standard date format; it's not like it's an ancient Egyptian calendar using hieroglyphics! Accounting for this programmatically can't possibly be a difficult task, especially considering that I am not the only user with a non-dmy preference in the signature and that my signature hasn't changed in years (and years, and years).—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); May 20, 2015; 20:19 (UTC)
Well, apparently it is very difficult because of the way the wikicode works. You could always set your preferences to MDY format and then everyone's dates will appear like that, unless they've hard-coded their date stamps in some other format the way you have, of course. sroc 💬 04:24, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
I had my preferences set to mdy format since the day that option became available :) It affects how system messages are displayed and the date formats on dynamically generated pages such as Recent Changes and Watchlist, but it has nothing to do with how the timestamps in user signatures are displayed (nor should it). Yours, for example, shows up exactly the same way it does in the edit window.
Regarding it being "very difficult" to fix the gadgets and such, I'm not buying that for a moment. Humanity can send a probe to land on a comet, but detecting a string of text containing a date in mdy format is beyond the 21st century technology? :) Pardon me for being skeptical, especially in light of the fact that !vote-processing bots never have a problem with accounting for my entries, and while the page-archiving bots did run into a few snags years ago when they stumbled upon my signature, the problem has long since been resolved.
All in all, the gadgets are just toys which some users find helpful (I myself have half a dozen enabled). With that perspective in mind, it is not acceptable at all to bug other users to change their preferences just to keep one's favorite toy running the way one likes it. If fixing the gadget is not an option, let me make you a counter-proposal of equal value—you can go to your Preferences, and turn the gadget off. This way all dates will consistently show up the way their owners intended and the problem will go away.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); May 21, 2015; 13:21 (UTC)
The Comments in Local Time gadget would allow you to have the times and dates in signatures appear to you according to your preferences—which is, after all, the point of having preferences—but it would not work when reading signatures such as yours which are not recognised. Since I don't have NASA under my command to work on this issue, I thought I would politely bring this to your attention in case you were unaware of the impact of your customisation. I don't find your suggestion to simply turn the gadgets off at all helpful as it presents no advantage over the current state of affairs. sroc 💬 14:23, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
I have no problem with the times and dates in signatures of other users showing up the way the owners of those signatures intended and simply ask that other users respect my preference in return.
The gadget code was not written by NASA; it's simply JavaScript (or maybe Lua?) code wrapped up as a gadget so it can conveniently be turned on and off from one's Preferences instead of having to insert it manually to one's common (vector, monobook...).js file. Whoever wrote the code should also be able to fix it for you; alternatively you can add your own code to your .js file to deal with non-dmy timestamps, if they bug you so. And while there is no harm in asking someone politely to do something that benefits you at the expense of the preferences of the person you are asking, it also helps to recognize when the answer is "no".—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); May 21, 2015; 14:41 (UTC)
P.S. It looks like you could use this gadget to solve your custom signatures display problem. It changes all signatures to default format, so any code assuming the signature dates are in dmy format should work flawlessly.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); May 21, 2015; 14:53 (UTC)
That's the Unclutter gadget I mentioned in my first post which, once again, does not work with your signature. Note that there's nothing special in the wikicode to distinguish signatures from the surrounding text other than a predictable format (e.g., they're not wrapped in <sig>...</sig> tags); it's because you don't use the predictable format that these gadgets can't recognise your signature as such. sroc 💬 15:03, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
I am not sure how using mdy format instead of dmy is "unpredictable". We seem to start wandering in circles. All of the problems you mentioned can be fixed with a bit of JavaScript (be it via editing the gadget code or editing your own .js page), and that's how you should proceed. Like I previously said, my signature stayed stable for years, nor do I have any plans to change it any time soon—that makes it quite predictable in my book. And like you said, anything predictable can be accounted for in code.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); May 21, 2015; 15:29 (UTC)

Please comment on Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Japan-related articles[edit]

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Renaming Historical city of Russia article[edit]

Ezhiki, Thanks for participating in the CFD discussion. They can be a little jargon-y but it's good to get new opinions. Regardless of my nomination, I don't think Historical city of Russia is well named. If you speak Russian, would Soviet Historic City Heritage Register be a reasonable translation of исторические города и поселения? (BTW, if the category survives, I agree with you that it should be renamed to whatever the new name of the article is.)

Thanks, RevelationDirect (talk) 01:24, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

I do speak Russian. The problem with the current title is that it is actually just as ambiguous in original Russian as is its translation in English, which is what the source of all the confusion in the CfD is.
"Soviet Historic City Heritage Register" would not be the best option. While the list (register) was first compiled in the Soviet times, it is currently regulated by a post-Soviet (2002) law. "Russian Historic City Heritage Register" might work, although this will still need to go through an RM in case someone can think of an even better option. Whatever the title ends up to be, the category will need to be re-created (and hopefully it won't be something like "inhabited localities in Russia included into the Russian Historic Cities and Settlements Registry" :)).—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); May 26, 2015; 15:16 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #159[edit]

I have unreviewed a page you curated[edit]

Hi, I'm Rhumidian. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Kacha, Russia, and have un-reviewed it again. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you. Rhumidian (talk) 15:33, 27 May 2015 (UTC)