User talk:Fadix/archive6

Thanks for deleting it

It is much appreciated. Fadix 01:56, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

I did not get it deleted because of your request or rfc (which I did not care to read). It would probably survive a vote but to my suprise the RfAr was closed. --Cool Cat ^Talk 14:36, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

It was 15-7(71% delete), so I would not be so quick. But anyways, thanks regardless. Fadix 16:26, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

Armenian language

Hi, usually I deal with turkish nationalism at Armenian_quote or de:Diskussion:Völkermord_an_den_Armeniern (de: talk on Armenian Genocide); today its with the Armenian kind, I guess. You may want to have a look at this . Nothing serious, but annoying: somebody wants to negate the last millenium's foreign linguistic influence on the Armenian language, namely Turkish influence on its phonology, only some merely lexical interchange with the Greeks seem acceptable to him: Greek seems to be the most closely related to Old Armenian with some Greek words borrowed from Armenian. I should be surprised to see that there's more Armenian words in the Greek language than viceversa... I don't speak Armenian, but the IP editor doesn't cite sources, his predecessors did. --Tickle me 17:15, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

I hate languistic discussions. :(

One form or the other, neither version is really NPOV, it presents a thesis as truth anyway. Proper way would be "according to Mr. blabla, this is..." Now, about the phonetic, there is two major Armenian phonetics, Western and Eastern Armenians, there is also the old Grabar. While Western Armenian phonetic has been influenced by Turkish,(but more from Ottoman Turkish, which is different than modern Turkish, and had mixtures of other languages like Arabic). Eastern Armenian phonetic, has been much more influenced from Persian. In the beggining of the last century, Armenian was classified by specialists as a form of Persian. Zazas, on the other hand, were considered Armenian dialect by some. "Hurro-Urartian Borrowings in Old Armenian" by Diakonoff(Journal of the American Oriental Society, 1985), provides also examples of Urartian influences. I would suggest the book, The Phonology of Armenian by Bert Vaux; Oxford University, 1998. About the Greek word stuff, some barrowed words, are neither barrowed from one or the other, but more to do with the Indo-European structure of both languages.(but, it is commonly accepted that there are more Greek words barrowed in Armenian, than the other way around, more particularly religious terms etc.)

I am always suspicious of anonymous(IP), participating in discussions. They don't bother registering but will confront others. I don't know what to propose to you here, I hate debating over language related topic, because there are clear oppositions between one specialist and the other,... and it would be a very difficult task to write an encyclopedic text. I'll see what I can do, maybe invite someone that knows the subject, that will be willing to participate.

Sorry to bother again with Armenian_language, but this has nothing to do with a linguistic discussion at the moment; the IP is turning wild, keeps on deleting any reference to Turkish influence and vandalises the talk page deleting old contributions it doesn't like. Besides, the IP seems not to be responsive to arguing or thought, to put it politely. Do you know a admin that could tell him how we handle stuff? He doesn't believe me a word and doesn't read anything anyway, besides he keeps calling for monitoring himself. --Tickle me 10:22, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

There are two Admins that do handle such articles pretty well. You could maybe contact dab and El C.

Also, I am really tired explaining to those that don't understand what Neutral point of view means. I advance again my position that someone that doesn't understand what it is, should refrain editing articles. Also, again, this confirm my theory, that those that refuse to register an account are not interested to justify their edits, neither read users comments. Fadix 17:23, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

Barnstar

Thank you Fadix for the barnstar. I really appreciate it, and I will add it to my userpage soon :-).--Wiglaf 07:30, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

The pleasure is all mine. You are in my top 5 lists of exceptional contributors. Fadix 19:06, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

Merci encore Fadix.--Wiglaf 21:58, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

Encyclopedic standards

Thanks for the note. Wikipedia:Forum for encyclopedic standards is still active. It's just that there hasn't been a discussion started on it in a while. But if you have any ideas, many people have the page on their watchlists, so you should be able to get a lot of feedback. 172 | Talk 09:04, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks, I will. Fadix 18:43, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

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Hi Fadix, I am an Armenian, I was reading your page and I saw that you are interested in the denial of the Armenian Genocide. And Vahakin Dadrian. And I must say that your entry on Armenian Population, and Casualties, are very useful.

Now I wanted to ask you, is your research about "specific" revisionists, or the Denial in general ? If specific, who are the revisionists of your interest ?

Both, there are revisionists that I have read any materials about the subject they wrote. Justin McCarthy, is the one, I have done the most research about, of course there are others like Shaw and his wife Ezel Kural, but Shaw is a clear fraud, having plagiated from a Turkish scholar, and claiming it being his 20 years research, and since he doesn't really publish new materials, I am not really interested in him anymore. If you have any questions about McCarthy, I don't want to be an arrogant :), but you can hardly find anyone as knowledgeble as me about his "researches." Fadix 18:43, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

Old Generation

Interesting, I'll make sure to turn to you if I have any question about McCarthy. You were saying that Shaw isn't producing any new stuff, well it seems that almost all of this revisionist's Generation isn't producing anything new, just copying on others before. So if one revisionist say something, they all go use it in there books without bothering to check or find how strong or weak that argument is.

I learned that you had few words with that holdwater thing. I was wondering do you have any idea who in hell is he ? I mean as you learned the revisionists styles. I'm suspecting someone, but I'm not sure.

Thanks,

Maral

Who he is, isen't important at all. I have debated with him in another forum, and the debate was brought here too.(he has an account at Wikipedia, with the lias "Torque") Fadix 18:31, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

More personal attacks by User:Cool Cat

Please see: Wikipedia talk:Requests for arbitration/Coolcat, Davenbelle and Stereotek/mentorship#More personal attacks by User:Cool Cat. — Davenbelle 06:16, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

I'll trust his mentors dealings with him. I'm not wasting my time again. He has wasted enough of my time, sorry. Fadix 18:29, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

OK,OK=

Let's just be Wiki-friends, please. icut4u

Barnstarification

Thanks! I'm thrilled to see likeminded contributors come to Wikipedia and work very hard to produce the articles I've always felt Wikipedia should have (see WP:MCOTW). I'll move the barnstar to the relevant area on my userpage. JFW | T@lk 02:05, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

RFC re Tony

Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Tony Sidaway 2. — Davenbelle 07:57, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

RfA

I thought that you might be interested in a specific RfA, which is avaliable for your consideration here: Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Cool Cat -- Karl Meier 20:39, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

And BTW, I was "stalking" you the other day, and this looks really interesting. I look forward to see it finished someday, and to translate and add the article into my own Danish Wikipedia. I don't know enough about the topic to write anything myself, so it's nice to be able to leech from the works of the experts in this area! -- Karl Meier 20:49, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

It will take some time to complete it I'm afraid. Fadix 21:28, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you very much for you know what. ;) --a.n.o.n.y.m ^t 01:30, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

French translation request

Hi. As you speak French I thought that you might be able to help me translate a few words and short sentences. These were taken from the inner sleeves of a French compilation called V.I.S.A. Present and I’m about to publish an article about it, but first I need to understand a few lines of text so that I can go ahead. I will also publish an article about V.I.S.A. (the record label). So here I list what I need to know:

• Beauvais: (I don’t know whether this is a name or what)…
• Lee Mee: (I have the same doubt as above)…
• Pile & Face:
• Actuellemente sur Androidia Flux on trouve:
• Épuisée:
• À …xxxxx…. pour nous avoir aidé a mettré sur pied les concerts V.I.S.A.:

That’s all. I would be very grateful if you could help me with this. Kind regards, User:Luis María Benítez

Beauvais is not a word, but a family name, or a place(actually many places, like a cathedral, somewhere in France etc.)

I doubt Lee Mee is anything French, it seems to be some asiatic name or something.

There is Pile et Face, and Pile ou Face, if it is Pile & Face, it is a film by Peter Howitt, or maybe it is a band, an album name(trying to put it in context). Pile ou Face in its litherary meaning, it is the two faces of a coin, that one throws.

Actually, on Androidia Flux we find...

Épuisée can have many meanings. It can mean, someone really tired, it can also mean, when there is a product sold, that all have been sold and there is no left. We can use it when selling tickets for a concerts and that all the tickets have all been sold.

To xxxxx. Thanks for having helped us to prepare the V.I.S.A concerts.

Regards Fadix 17:19, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

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I'll take care next time,if there is one. Thank you anyway --Maral79 18:34, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

It's OK!, removing what was already posted was not a good thing though, just be cautious of not copypasting long texts in future, unless they are not comming from the web. Fadix 18:39, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

Changing vote

Hi Fadix. Absolutely fine for you to feel the way you do. No problems with that, but I just want to point out that a lot of the evidence posted on the talk page is misleading. For one thing it was mostly reverting pov material and not actually adding it. The editor who posted the material has done a good job of making it biased, for what reason I don't know. Trust me, it usually takes a lot of pov pushing to get me to lose my cool. ;) See my contribs if you want or the links posted as evidence. I suggest looking at the links in the correct context, which is to see the edit history of the articles and the editor who I was having a conflict with. Thank you once again --a.n.o.n.y.m ^t 00:36, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

Don't worry, I've been controversial myself and know how to deal with those stuff. I don't think less of you in anyway, being an nontheist/agnostic, your faith vs others faith won't change the direction of my thoughts. I just maintained neutrality, until things evolve a little bit. Just to let you know, that I have never supported anyone before you. Also, I do believe that you will be an OK admin, because of the controversies, which will force you to be more causious than the average admins. Fadix 00:53, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the comments

I thought I moved them under the section dissolution. These issues can be easily expended under dissolution page, WITH your help ofcourse. I do not remmember what happaned to specific text later on. Just a reminder; these conflicting issues needs a lot of space, and Ottomans deserve an introductory page that is consize and clean as much as Armenians have. This does not mean I disapprove discussion of conflicts, but I disapprove at least doing it on the main page. ps:Ottomamns have 900 years of history, I bet I can fill that page without you text. I hope you can appreciate what I'm saying. Thanks. I will check on that later tommarrow, for a curtesy to you.

My RfA

Thank you for your comments. I was going to universally thank everybody afterwards, but wanted to tell you that I adjusted the content of my user page a little bit (I didn't want to change it all because I don't want to be seen as desperate or anything). Let me know if you have any more thoughts. I honestly didn't think my user page was that virulent, but you are probably right in retrospect. Shadt Shenoragalem... Ramallite ^(talk) 20:58, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

Merci - yete gernam oknem (hayagan-turkeren) batmutyouneh, eseh inzi oor! (Ayo Hayeren kitchme ge-hasqunam paytz chem gartal yev chem kurell) ! Ramallite ^(talk) 21:59, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

One of the three languages of Jerusalem- how could I not? :) But I can only understand light conversation, and cannot read or write characters (don't even know what the letters are). But I'm constantly trying to expand. Next target: Greek! Ramallite ^(talk) 22:14, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

Treaties

I noticed that the entery for "Treaty of San Stefano" and "Treaty of Berlin, 1878" , barely mention the Armenian issue. Can't we add some info. about that, i.e. articles of both treaties that concerns the Armenians of Ottoman Empire ? --Maral79 12:46, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

In the current shape of the article, we can not because it will be misleading. Those two Treaty were much, much much more than covering the Armenians, both articles need to be expended, then perhaps we could add the Armenian cases. If we add the Armenian cases in its current shape, it will misrepresent both Treaties and fool the reader into believing that the Armenian issue was more incorporated in those Treaties then it really was. I'd probably expend those two articles if no one does it, but there are things that are before this in priority in my must do lists.

My RFA

Thank you very much for supporting my rather contentious request for adminship, but now that I've been promoted, I'd like to do a little dance here *DANCES*. If you have any specific issues/problems with me, please feel free to state them on my talk page so that I can work to prevent them in the future, and thanks once again!  ALKIVAR™ 07:33, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks again for your support on my RfA, which finally passed today. I greatly appreciate your vote and your responses to some of the opposition. Kisher pari, Ramallite ^(talk) 03:56, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

Robert Smigel

re: "get a life" — not sure if you meant this as a quote, but many readers would think of this. See the 3rd paragraph. Best, Davenbelle 09:17, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

Hmmm... I don't understand. Fadix 19:39, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

I was referring to this post of yours. I thought you might be interested in what others might well have read into it. — Davenbelle 03:50, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

Hehe, how the heck you find such articles. :)

I saw the original broadcast and have known who Smigel is for as long. Chevy Chase was a Trek-Fan dressed up as Spock — William Shatner#Post-Star Trek career tore-off the cheesey fake-ears and told the bunch of fans to "Get a life" (and to find girls). — Davenbelle 04:10, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

P.S. I'm reading Middlesex (novel) which includes an account of the The Burning of Smyrna. I've also just read your article on Armenian genocide denial; I look forward to it moving into the main article space. Best, Davenbelle 04:35, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

It will take some time to finish that article. Fadix 21:24, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

If you'd like, I'll work on it a bit. — Davenbelle 04:10, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

Got _change opinion?

Hi, sorry to bother with something unrelated to your subjects of interest, but I'd like to have a clearthinkers view on this: category needed?, maybe I'm wrong or overly sensitive there. --tickle me 06:55, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

my RFB

yeah I figured you wouldn't hold it against me. I hope you feel comfortable supporting me when I try again in the future. Jtkiefer ^{T | @ | C} ----- 07:52, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

Languages - hy

Hi there! Can you tell me what language hy stands for on your talk page? I am interested to know more about it, the script looks interesting! --HappyCamper 18:18, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

WikiThanks

WikiThanks

The WikiThanks may be awarded as a way to say thank you to other Wikipedians.

Thank you for fixing spelling and grammer on my user page. I encourage you to do more fixes if you think they are necesary. Further more feel free to use/steal anything on my userpage ;) --Cool Cat ^Talk 18:57, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

Thanks Cool Cat

But there is nothing surprising in correcting grammar when I see them. Fad (ix) 01:43, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

True but cleaning articles from spelling and grammer errors (copy editing) should be encouraged on every opertunity.

If you have the time, I welcome you to "copyedit" my userpage and/or this article Oh My Goddess!

Thats all I got for now. --Cool Cat ^Talk 10:03, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for supporting me for adminship. The RfA passed today. I look forward to working with you to make Wikipedia a better place. --Nlu 04:06, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

fighting POV at Armenian language

Hi, fighting POV at Armenian_language is getting a full time job lately. To fight it off and to ease tensions alike, I made these changes today, using info & sources already present at the talk page:

Old:

According to Hans K. Vogt's article in the 1997 Britannica, "Whereas Old Armenian was rather close to ancient Greek in many respects, Modern Armenian is typologically much closer to Turkish".

Armenian is an Indo-European language, its phonology has been influenced by Persian and Caucasian languages.

New:

According to Hans K. Vogt's article in the 1997 Britannica, referring mainly to Western Armenian, "Whereas Old Armenian was rather close to ancient Greek in many respects, Modern Armenian is typologically much closer to Turkish".

Differing from classical Armenian and versions of Modern Armenian, which, according to Bert Vaux, where purefied due to political considerations, Western Armenian phonetics have been influenced by Turkish, mostly from Ottoman Turkish, whereas Persian affected Eastern Armenian. As result of the Caucasian Sprachbund, Caucasian languages had an impact as well, which explains that Armenian has the most peculiar phonology of all extant Indo-European languages.

It might be helpful if you could give something like an short Imprimatur at Talk:Armenian_language, correcting errors, if needed. Else, the vandals might start again. --tickle me 06:37, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

I am just viewing my talk page right now, I am on a wiki vaccation for a week or so, when I come back I'll take a look. Regards Fad (ix) 15:20, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

Greatings! I agree on your changes in the armenian language sctions. Thanks for refrasing that owful scentence about Armenian being typologicaly like Turkish. I still am in doubt about in what way did Voght mean typologicaly, knowing that typology could mean anything in this mather. I shall do my own reasearch though and upgrade that page a bit, becouse it still is a bit "misty" the aria about armenian being influenced by Caucasian languages. I my self come from Abchazia (west Georgia), so from the Caucasus it self. I heared a lot of languages thare but still can't pick any that sounds or writes even remotely like Armenian. But I'll see what I can find. --Pensamiento

categoty tags/subpage

Hi, your subpage is visible in Category:Genocides, could you please disable the categorisation like this [[:Category:Genocides]], thank you--–Gnomz⁰⁰⁷(?) 06:31, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

Did it myself–Gnomz⁰⁰⁷(?) 20:33, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

Thanks. Fad (ix) 15:21, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

Hi Fadix

GREAT that you are fighting this Turkish nationalist basterds. If thare is any way I could help PLEASE let me know!!! I'm not that good in English, but I can do good reasearch, know scientific refering and can be very annoing at times. I also have about 500 IP's at my disposal. :) Also I probably could find a way to block my IP, so I can Irritate some Turkish nationalists without me being kicked. Or is this all illigal hehe? But ok man, THANKS for fighting for our couse hehee! Shout if need any help from me!! --Pensamiento

Such behavours are unwelcome here. Either you're just a teen or an unmature adult, in both cases I don't want to be associated with your future conduct(which according to what you wrote, would cost you a ban, and being considered as a vandal). The next time you answer with the same crap, I will delete your posts from my talk page. Fad (ix) 15:26, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

HEHEHE No I'm not a teener (am 22), but you could call me a bit imature if mature is speaking with inhibitions of your feelings. You could also just say it's illigal, there is no need for hostilaty. I'm just talking, I don't intend to put it in action if that would be something undesirable by you, even for the good couse. Just wanted to make that clear. No need to block me or somthing like that! I reason first befor act just so you know. I would think it's mature to ask before judge. But I understand your point either, you might not be taken seriously if you'd take on my offer. I understand No need to say anything! I see now it wouldn't make anything easyer for our couse. Sorry Dude won't hapen again!! Still thanks for your fight!! Bye!!! --Pensamiento

Thank you!

Hi Fadix,

Thank you very much for your involvement in my my RfA. Although you didn't support at first, I'm glad you voiced your concerns. And I really appreciated your last comment on my talk page. I hope I won't disappoint you! If I can ever help with anything or if you have any comments about my actions as an admin, please let me know! Regards, JoanneB 23:36, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

Islamofascism

Howdy, Fadix.

The same folks who don't like books critical of Islam are now trying to delete Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Islamofascism (term) which has over 500 Kilogoogles (in various forms). Perhaps you could take a look and give your input. Klonimus 00:57, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

Reverting talk pages

Hi there. Noticed you recently did this edit, reverting two horrible and aggressive comments on the Armenian Genocide talk page. I understand this is a heated argument (hell, most of the discussions on AG are!), so I wont meddle in it. I would like to suggest strongly that the comments be put back though; for one reverting other people's comments is rather unelegant imho, and secondly, both posts gave ample insight into the characters of the authors ;-). Two reasons to keep them in plain sight if you ask me. On the whole i think you do a good job keeping things real in there.

Greets, The Minister of War ^(Peace) 20:15, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

• Grin* Precisely the reason i'm NOT reverting :-) I'm supposed to be on a Wikibreak myself! But i think i see your point, though its not something that archiving doesnt solve. Personally, when getting acquianted with a topic, i usually read through all the comments to see who are pushing what POV (and how badly), and these posts are certainly helpful in that respect!! But like i said, i wont get in the way; just a thought, but perhaps you are right to delete on sight. Greets, The Minister of War ^(Peace) 08:49, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

My RfA

Hi Fadix! Merci, Choukran and Thank you for your kind support on my RfA. -- Szvest 17:29, 25 December 2005 (UTC)  ^{Wiki me up™}

Dayr az-Zawr

Hi Fadix,

I am looking for someone who can tell me what Dayr az-Zur is called in Armenian. I put a transliteration of the Armenian name (Ter Zor) on the page for it because I have seen it referred to as such and it's quite important in Armenian history of a certain period. Checking on google after a couple of recent changes to the page, I find that another Armenian version, Der Zor, is twice as common on the internet. Should we include both?

What is the letter used in Armenian (if there's a standard Armenian version of the name), is it the inaspirate "ta"?

All the best, Palmiro | Talk 01:45, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

"Der Zor" and "Deir el-Zor" are usually the most accepted transliterations online and in books.--MarshallBagramyan 08:59, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

A question of Armenian

Hi, I checked out your user page and you speak Armenian! Cool :) I was wondering if you could check something out for me, is the Armenian translation here accurate, or might there be a better way of wording it? If you have comments you can leave them on the talk page. Thanks :) - FrancisTyers 18:29, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

It really depends what you mean by fking it. :) Do you want a literary translation? If so, the Armenian text there doesn't really represent it. Fad (ix) 21:25, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

Rfa thanks

Hello Fadix. Thank you for supporting my Rfa! I will try my best to be a good administrator. --a.n.o.n.y.m t 17:43, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

Fadix, come back...and thank you!

Fadix, I see you are on a wikibreak...well, when you return please note my thanks for your support of my RfA. It is much appreciated and I will do my best to be a good admin. Thanks again! Babajobu 00:38, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

WMC's RFA

I believe that the conflict that FZ etc. are talking about is at Talk:Aetherometry, and it goes all the way to the start. You might also want to have a look at the link that Natalinasmpf provided in his/her reply to FZ's Oppose vote. Guettarda 19:30, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Which forum?

Sorry, can't remember which one... - Ta bu shi da yu 02:23, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

Khmer Rouge

Just in case you are interested, arbitration has been proposed on the Khmer Rouge article. Do you care to make a statement? WP:RFAR CJK 23:08, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

Wikimedia Canada

Hi there! I'd like to invite you to explore Wikimedia Canada, and create a list of people interested in forming a local chapter for our nation. A local chapter will help promote and improve the organization, within our great nation. We'd also like to encourage everyone to suggest projects for our national chapter to participate in. Hope to see you there! -- user:zanimum

Nagorno Karabakh

Hey Fadix. I wonder what your position is on including Staravoitova's USIP link on the Karabakh page. Your input will be appreciated.

In my opinion, that person isen't any less credible than Atkinson. We can not decide ones credibility here in Wikipedia, the source exist, and if there is no published answer to the source, we can not include our personal critics and dismiss a link. Fad (ix) 16:59, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

Well put, Fadix. I did invite others for input on the talk page, so feel free to post this on the talk page, unless you object.--TigranTheGreat 23:38, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

Celine Dion

I've replied to your comments on Talk:Céline Dion. Oran e (t) (c) (e) 21:31, 21 January 2006 (UTC)