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Gosh, crumbs!

Thank you for your lovely edit summary. I'm pink all over, radiating smugness!

(And all that for an insufferable talking head. Hmm, I'll now have to restore my reputation by coming to the aid of some porn star or similar.) -- Hoary (talk) 03:51, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Porn star? You wouldn't mean this, would you? Fg2 (talk) 11:10, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
Yup, her and also another one now appearing in the list of J-related deletions. (The trouble is, I lack the knowledge to write more on this exciting subject.) -- Hoary (talk) 14:33, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Manga Peer Review

Just to let you know that I've replied to the suggestions you made when you peer reviewed the manga article. Timothy Perper (talk) 20:18, 7 January 2008 (UTC)


Thanks Fg2 (talk) 22:16, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Photos

Excellent photos —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fdws (talkcontribs) 06:47, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Thank you! Fg2 (talk) 08:05, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Another Japanese horse breed article

Can you peek at Miyako Pony for a review of info? Thanks! Montanabw(talk) 07:08, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

It looks really good! I couldn't add anything to it, so all I did was general editing. Also added a link from the Japanese article to the English. Nice work! Fg2 (talk) 08:04, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

This time it wasn't me, I just added a sentence. Thank the article's creator! Montanabw(talk) 23:24, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Tokyo earthquakes

Replied on my talk page. Calliopejen1 (talk) 04:32, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Fg2 (talk) 04:33, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

The Herbert Keppler Page

Thanks for creating this page! I wanted to do it myself but this photographer needs a lot of research so I just put his name in the "Page Requested" site of Wikipedia. Maybe I'll contribute to it later. Again, thank you! He inspired me a lot!--MurderWatcher1 (talk) 22:55, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks to you for expanding it! Fg2 (talk) 00:23, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

UCFD relisting

Hi. Recently you commented at Wikipedia:User categories for discussion#Wikipedians in x prefecture. Although the debate started as a discussion on whether to rename the category, it later broadened to encompass upmerging the categories to Category:Wikipedians in Japan. I have left the debate open a little longer because the suggestion came quite late in the debate and I am not sure if all participants had seen the suggestion. If you have an opinion on this upmerge, please comment at the debate above. Thanks for your time. Hiding T 11:11, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Hi Hiding, and thanks for notifying me. I don't have a strong opinion on this, since categories on user pages are internal documents, so other than commenting on it I'll sit out the voting. But I do appreciate the alert. Fg2 (talk) 11:31, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
You're welcome, and thank you. Hiding T 12:48, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Link

Hi Fg2 Sensei! What is the principal of the language order to interwiki link? I reverted this and left a message to the editor. And the replies are here on my talk page. I'm really confused and do not know where to add the ja link from now on. Please give me your advice. Best regards. Oda Mari (talk) 08:16, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Hi Mari,
I don't know the guidelines. I found this page: Help:Interlanguage links#Sorting. However, it discusses "local names of languages." I don't know what that means.
Maybe the best thing is to look at Japan. It's a featured article, so the language links should be in the correct order. It has links to very many languages. When you are editing an article, you can find one language that is before 日本語 in Japan and one language that is after 日本語. Then you can put 日本語 between those two languages.
The editor who left the message on your page said that sorting according to two-letter code has more votes. Maybe that's true, but I don't know. My solution to this problem is not to worry! I just put the links in, and then let other people sort them differently if they need to.
I hope that helps!
Best regards, Fg2 (talk) 09:50, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
It helped a lot. I saw this. Seemingly either way would be OK. But I take ja as Nihongo and put in after Nederlands as before. Thank you always. Oda Mari (talk) 10:15, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Takarazuka Revue

You redirected, but the information was not identical, that's not a proper merge. Please merge them properly. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 05:03, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

ps-your photos are beautiful! Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 05:04, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
I understand that you want to be correct when merging articles and that - WP:MERGE lays it out nice and clearly (just that you link the title of the merged article in your edit summary), but there is also a template that can be used on talk pages, if you want to make sure - {{Merged-to}}. I would appreciate your help copyediting the Takarazuka Revue article - my initial edit was largely a copy-paste, in order to be as faithful as possible to the spirit of WP:MERGE. I hope knowing about the template helps you in the future. :) -Malkinann (talk) 09:36, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Onsen(s)

Actually, the 1994 update to OED provides two alternative plural forms for "onsen". One is "unchanged"; the other is made by adding an "-s". Words in English are usually pluralized by adding an "s", so most users would intuitively recognise "onsens" as the plural of "onsen". Snocrates 06:50, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Interesting. I completely missed that when I looked yesterday, but it is there, plain as can be. Thank you. Fg2 (talk) 10:14, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Moving article (Puccho to Putcho)

I see that you've moved the article to Putcho because of the Wikipedia:Manual of Style. However, the official name is actually Puccho (Official site is http://www.puccho.jp/). So if the official name doesn't follow to Wikipedia's manual of style, we have to fix it so it follows? That is stupid.. Nothing related to this product can be found on any search engine with the search keyword, "Putcho". --Sτaκa 15:33, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

You can discuss it on the talk page of the manual of style. Fg2 (talk) 21:21, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Just because you don't want to have conflict moving back the article to where it was... I will in few days. --Sτaκa 22:50, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Nue - "in-universe"

In universe is not restricted to modern works of fiction. It is a writing style that comes from the perspective of the fictional concept it is describing. The article is written as if the folklore was true. This is an inherantly unencyclopedic tone. This is not an issue for deletion, but a matter for editing. But my point was that once the offending content is removed, there is nothing left. See you at AfD. JERRY talk contribs 02:25, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

OK, no problem Fg2 (talk) 03:07, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
Hello, I have no complaint about your most recent edit to Nue, but I don't understand your edit summary: "removing one macron is a correction; removing the other is Wikipedia romanization". What does that mean? Does it mean that the little accent marks on the Japanese word are not supposed to be there? Is there some policy about this? JERRY talk contribs 14:34, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
Well, nevermind... I found in the manual of style: "City names should include macrons in all cases, except for Tokyo, Osaka, Kyoto, and Kobe. These cities are well-known around the world already." I really don't understand most of that section of the MOS, so I'll just have to trust the judgement of those who say they do. JERRY talk contribs 14:39, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
Here's an explanation anyway. Japanese has long vowels and it has short vowels. The mark (macron) over a vowel indicates a long vowel. The article had the name of the city written as Kyōtō. That has two marks indicating long vowels. However, it's incorrect because the actual name of the city has only one long vowel. If it were written with indications of long vowels, Kyōto would be correct. Removal of that macron was a correction. You can see the correct writing with the single macron in the first line of the article Kyoto. Additionally, as you found, Wikipedia follows widespread English-language practice and writes the name of the famous city without indicating the long vowel. So removal of the other macron was a change to Wikipedia's writing system.
Now about the four named places. They're so famous that they're known in English without macrons. Their names are in standard reference works without macrons. The names have become English words that are separate from the native Japanese words. This is analogous to the names of European cities: the capital of Italy is Rome (in English) but Roma (in Italian). The capital of the UK is Londres (in French) but London (in English). The capital of France is Parigi (in Italian) but Paris (in French). It's quite common for cities to have names in foreign languages that are different from the native names. Pronunciations are also different: the English pronunciation of Paris is quite different from the French, even though the spelling is the same. Likewise, the English pronunciation of Kyoto is different from the Japanese, and does not have a long vowel-short vowel distinction in the Japanese sense. Wikipedia writes these names in the English manner, rather than Tōkyō, Ōsaka, Kyōto, and Kōbe. To alert readers to the difference between English and native names, we show long vowels in the first line of the article, but otherwise we use English.
I hope this is helpful. Best regards, Fg2 (talk) 01:51, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

No offense, but that is bogus. It has nothing to do with English vs. Japanese. It is just one style vs. another. And a lot of it has to do with typographical restrictions and ease of input. Spelling and pronunciation are two entirely different issues. Here are articles from another English encyclopedia:

Surely you've been to many of these places and have seen English signs with these spellings. It is due to this single issue which I think Wikipedia fails so poorly. We've had this discussion many times and will continue to have it many more times. Bendono (talk) 03:28, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Bendono, let me clarify to Jerry that you and I agree about the incorrectness of a macron on the final vowel in Kyoto. And we agree that the romanization Kyōto more accurately represents the Japanese name than does Kyoto. The disagreement is over whether English uses a macron over the first vowel. Fg2 (talk) 04:22, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Changing user name

I've begun a process of changing my user name. I flatter myself that you'd likely recognize my "voice" under any circumstances. Perhaps this becomes a mere formality, but nothing convinces me that you think that way. We'll see .... An alternative name I considered for a time would have been a bit like someone else's, a nod to "Bendono" in the contrived user name "Jōō-dono" .... I also considered a nod to you, emulating "Fg2" in a name like "Jōō-dono2" .... Instead, my user name choice was bland, almost trite, obvious, plain. I didn't feel BOLD enough -- not yet. Maybe in the future?

User:OoperhoofdUser:Tenmei?
  • Current name: Ooperhoofd (talk · contribs · logs · block log)
  • Requested name: Tenmei (other projects?) (rename user)
  • Reason: During the past year, my primary focus has had to do with Japanese era names (nengō). These time-period names were changed periodically, but not regularly -- some lasting only months, and others lasting for decades. I want to adopt one of these Japanese era names as my user name. As it happens, my initial user name, "Ooperhoofd," was a deliberate mis-spelling of the Dutch word for the chief trader on the island of Dejima in Nagasaki harbor. In Japan, the title Opperhoofd had significance during the 300 years in which all but the VOC merchants were excluded from Japan as part of a deliberate, "country-in-chains" policy (sakoku). Now that I'm beginning to feel more comfortable in the Wikipedia environment, I think I can cast aside a user name which serves me less well than it did some months ago. A new vista of perceived opportunities is beginning to open up for me, and I want to mirror something of a nengō-informed approach to a what I'm doing as a Wikipedia editor. In that context, the nengō which means "dawn" seems an attractive alternative, a good step in a constructive direction. "Tenmei" is short ... and, yes, I know that I need to learn to write in shorter sentences. The other users whose opinions I most value will have no difficulty in adapting to this name change -- and, in fact, I flatter myself that they would likely recognize my contributions even if I were identified by an unfamiliar IP-address. My prose has been charitably called "a dense, overly-academic" writing style -- as you can see for yourself here. I wonder if a user name change will help me "find my own voice" -- assuming, of course, that I still have it in me to grow a little bit. --Ooperhoofd (talk) 03:27, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Who knows how this will unfold? --Ooperhoofd (talk) 19:26, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi Ooperhoofd, and congratulations in advance on your change of user name. "Tenmei" is short and memorable. The meaning is nice and it accords well with your editing interests. Don't worry about tributes to me; my user name isn't personal (the one I wanted was already taken). If I were to choose one now, I don't know what I'd select. Best regards, Fg2 (talk) 01:58, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Question

Hi, urashimataro here. Is there a reason you so accurately eliminated references to the Kamakura Gozan? I was planning to write an article about that. Cheers. Urashimataro (talk) 11:45, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi urashimataro. I didn't intend to remove references to the five temples. Simply, the term "Gozan" is not English, so I explained it in English. That's all. It would make a nice subject for an article. Thanks Fg2 (talk) 11:51, 16 February 2008 (UTC)


More about the Kamakura Gozan

Well, Kamakura Gozan is a proper name like New York Times, it seems to me. Is it OK if I put it back in leaving your explanation? That would also help making sense of the rankings.

Urashimataro (talk) 12:13, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Of course, my permission is not necessary.
As alternatives to treating the expression as a proper name, the explanation you wrote, "Kamakura's Five Zen Temples," sounds like English that ordinary readers of English would understand. You might find similar phrasings in articles on the temples, the city, and tourist guidebooks written in English by native speakers. Consider some other, similar expressions: Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse, French Third Republic, Noble Eightfold Path and Gang of Four. The capital letters indicate that they are proper nouns, yet they're generally translated. Writers would not expect a general audience of English speakers to understand the originals. So I'd suggest translating and capitalizing. Fg2 (talk) 09:29, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi Fg2! How you've been? Brrrr...I'm freezing. Please take a look at the article. Isn't it terrible? There is no such Japanese meaning of the word. I checked Kojien and other 2 dictionaries but couldn't find the meaning the article says. What is the best way to do? What do you think? Thank you. Oda Mari (talk) 17:09, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

P.S. There is the same article in Wiktionary too. I notice these mistakes at here. Oda Mari (talk) 17:15, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi Mari. Ohisashiburi desu! I'm longing for warm weather too.
About nanori. The dictionaries I have at hand do not list the meaning that's in the article. Oddly, the Japanese Wikipedia does; see 1. at 名乗り. I found it once in Wiktionary with this meaning: 象#読み. I'll bring it up at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Japan and see what the community has to say about it.
Best regards, Fg2 (talk) 01:51, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

While I do not see it in Nikkoku either, it is #2 in Daijirin: 名前に用いる漢字の訓, although this is not a very detailed explanation. A better explanation is given by Taishūkan's glossary (I should note that they are the publishers of Morohashi Tetsuji's famous 『大漢和辭典』) here:

名乗(なのり) 漢字の中には、日本人の名前に用いられたときに特別な読み方をするものがあります。そのような読み方のことを「名乗」といいます。字によっては名乗の種類は非常に多く、たとえば小社の『新漢語林』の「一」の項では、名前に使われる読み方として、「い・いち・いつ・おさむ・か・かず・かた・かつ・くに・すすむ・ただ・ち・のぶ・はじむ・はじめ・ひ・ひさ・ひじ・ひで・ひと・ひとし・まこと・まさ・まさし・もと」を掲載していますが、これらのほとんどは「名乗」です。名乗の存在は、日本人の名前の読み方を複雑にしている一因であるかもしれません。

There are many, many web references as well. A few include:

  • 1: 漢字には音読み、訓読みのほかに、名乗りといわれる名前に使用するときにのみ使用される読み方がある漢字があります。
  • 2:漢字は音、訓、名乗りの3とおりの読みかたがあり、その読み方でふりがなをふれば出生届はかならず受理されます。たとえば「美」の字を例にとれば、 音=ビ 訓=うつくしい 名乗り=うま、きよし、とみ、はし、はる、ふみ、み、みつ、よし、よしみ であり、これらの読みかたが、名前では正しい読みかたです。美の字のばあいは、圧倒的に名乗りの「み」の読みかたが使われているわけです。

FYI Bendono (talk) 02:59, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Just for reference, from Nikkoku:

なのり‐よみ【名乗読】 漢字の人名用の読み方。

*玉塵抄〔1563〕五「業はなる心ぞ。日本に名乗(ナノリ)よみに業(なり)ひらなどとよむぞ」 Bendono (talk) 03:09, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, Bendono. Those references and the extensive quote from a reliable source are very helpful. Fg2 (talk) 03:12, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Thank you Fg2 and Bendono. My! It was really illiterate of me. But why don't Kojien and other major dictionaries have the definition? Thank you very much and forget about the matter. Oda Mari (talk) 10:12, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
This was a learning experience for me. I knew that Ariwara no Narihira has 業 as nari, but I didn't know that unusual readings like this were called nanori. Best regards Fg2 (talk) 10:29, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Japan National Roads

If we were to create a scope for Japan National Highways, which would you prefer to create? A Wikiproject or a task force, and why do you think your choice would work out better than the other? ^_^ AL2TB ^_^ 00:42, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi AL2TB, and thanks for inquiring about Japan National Highways. I confess, I don't know the benefits of task forces and Wikiprojects. Another editor explained the benefits of a task force for television. See Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Japan/Archive/January 2008#Creation of Japanese television task force. Not sure what became of it... . What's your thinking? Fg2 (talk) 01:51, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
I'd say WikiProject, so we can link all the national highways together via talk page banners. ^_^ AL2TB ^_^ 02:20, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
I'd recommend a task force, as they could still be linked together using the banners. It would just require adjusting the {{WPJ}} banner a little to accommodate it (which has already been done for several other task forces). ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 03:31, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Question

Hi. I would like to ask a question. I noticed you added a WikiProject Japan tag to the discussion page of an article I started. I would like to know what it is, what are its consequences, and if can I add it myself when I think it's the case. Thanks in advance.

Urashimataro (talk) 05:45, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Hey Fg2, I was inspired by your new article G-Men '75. I went ahead and translated Key Hunter, which is an older "prequel" of sorts for G-Men '75.

I copied some of your format for Key Hunter. Thank you for your inspiration!--Endroit (talk) 19:02, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Hey, I enjoyed the article -- thanks! Fg2 (talk) 21:11, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Deletion sorting lists

There is now a bot that will move completed AfDs from lists such as Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Japan‎ to the corresponding archive, so it is no longer necessary or useful for individual editors to remove completed AfDs from a deletion sorting list. --Eastmain (talk) 03:33, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Hidaka Interwiki

Thanks!imars (talk) 11:56, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Haibutsu Kishaku

Hi, FG2, and thanks for cleaning up the Haibutsu kishaku article. Some days ago I rewrote and expanded the Shinbutsu bunri one, which you don't seem to have noticed yet. If and when you have time, it could use a cleanup too.

Urashimataro (talk) 13:08, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for the pair of articles! Fg2 (talk) 11:00, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Interpersonal World

Thanks for the tip about the entry concerning the interpersonal world. I accidentally created two seperate entries. I saw that you corrected it already, so thanks for your help.

Kind regards, DaphneSwiebel (talk) 10:24, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

You're welcome, and thanks once again for your contributions! Fg2 (talk) 10:32, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Gorilla

Thanks! Proof that some days it's better to be lucky than good. In case you didn't know, I've moved down from Sendai to Chiba. That's the reason my contributions have been in very brief and random spurts lately. If there's ever a Tokyo meetup, let me know. Neier (talk) 14:02, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Over Japanese occult unit

Hello,i am josl22,the author of allegued "hoax" Unit 831 and others related with this.sir at final you are poses reason in thinked why "All legend or myth poses some roots in your origin" and such articles more near to Conspirance theories why any invented hoax or lies

My original interest in exposed such information if provocated discussion and depht research over such material,isn t not for cominzed one common and current destructive deleting council,one tipical thing in place,when if any article no understand/no sense for some authors and causing angry between theirs.for fortune not all thinked in such form,for this i present this comentaire at respect

my pourpose if present one serie of facts and sucesses about one secret Japanese WWII unit under led of Japanese Army/Navy Intelligence.such facts are very difficult in explain in simply terms among liked to archeologist,palenothologist or police investigations i can to attempted the reconstruct some suceses bases in scarcies dates and pieces or inclusive based in my own suposes and deductions

I am making little personal research about German-Japanese WW2 occultist connections and obtained some links related with this.my pourpose if sended this information for your analisis and for yours started one detailed research at respect.

this if a possibly explained some Japanese advanced and strange tecnologies in wartimes (thermal and energy rays,possibly foo figthers or acase the japanese-german discs,etc between others);the nexts links are related with such topic:

Some links mentioned about the existance of one inner occultisr and exoteric circile inside of Black Dragon Order,so-called the Green Dragon Order at same time guided by Tibetan/Agarthian Green Mens order.if allegued why the Green Dragons poses heavy black Magic powers since much time also contacted with German Thule Gesselschaft and later SS Ahnenerbe and Karotechia unit. between the few westerns enter in Green Dragon Order stay Karl Haushofer when if stayed in German diplomatic posts in Japan.

for less in two of such links if related over one secret section Unit 831 created along the knowed Unit 731,both with pourpose of constructed destruction mass weapons.other sources related why such unit remainded independent and realizing your own proper research alone,under direct command of Japanese Army/Navy Intelligence.

When read over Unit 831 and your wonders,i analized the possibility of such unit guided al secret weapons development among the exoteric researches in country,for attempting one reconstruction of such sucess.other inusual details if the knowed japanese tests of Energy rays weapons and some leaders how Hideo Iwakuro poses interest in such research or other Isoge Taro mantain contact with occult German officers as Johanes Sprech in wartimes among the relate making by Hiroshi Oshima to Germans in Berlin over allegued space-race gods from space.

In accord with Jan Van Helsing one VRIL 7 disc arriving to Japan in lasts staged of conflict among why in some sources related of arriving of one advanced type of submarine (acase Type XXI sub?) with some secret German unit or in other version one fleet of such submarines arriving German personel and Japanese Ambassador and your group from Europe in lasts days of war.

isn t coincidence why at Japan arriving such disc (if occured),if in country are reported the suppose development of such tecnology or why Japanese designed one advanced sub how I-200/Sen-Taka type as near to Type XXI German sub in lasts days of war.

I encounter why Germans sended no only one or two Mercury sendings,withouth various Mercury transfers was trasladed by Italian and German subs among others can to arriving to some occult fligths along other secret equipment and documents.if no equivoqued,the Mercury was important in development of suppose German Vril/Thule tecnology.

If in Germany as designers of EMG discs craft and your tecnologies,the lasts goal of such craft if one Channeled space fligth craft,if possibly why in Japan poses similar ideal in same way I now understand why Vladimir Terzinsky related over allegued Japanese participation in suppose German SS "Raumflug" (spacefligth) plan,when previously if for occultists contacts or for secret subs transfers Japanese receiving related advanced tecnologies.

Inclusive i making some reconstruction draws over allegued Japanese Unmmaned discs crafts and Flying discs based in ampled Tietsin and Los Angeles reports.

According to Dr Michael Wolf, who claims to have been a member of the secret National Security Council body that oversees ET affairs in the US, "The first UFO came down in 1941 into the ocean west of San Diego, and was retrieved by the Navy." [25] Another date for this discovery given by the now deceased Colonel William Brophy was Feb 25, 1942. [26]

I am curiously in last affirmation,acase Americans recovered one UFO during February 25,1942,just same day of "Battle of L.A." incident?,as possibly Americans captured badly damaged for heavy AA fire and interceptor figthers the allegued Japanese disc why previously flying over Los Angeles for later falling over Pacific Ocean near San Diego coasts?

[25] Richard Boylan, “Quotations from Chairman Wolf,” http://drboylan.com/wolfqut2.html

[26] Personal interview of Colonel’s Brophy’s son by Dr Richard Boylan,“Air Force Colonel's Son Reveals 1940s U.S. UFO/Star Visitor Encounters,” UFOfacts, July 21, 2003 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/UFOFacts/message/10345

Other curiosity if related at Fieseler Fi 103 cruise missile and Aggregat 4 medium range missile sended to Japan.the first served to developed the Kawanishi Baika manned suicide plane and if uhknowed over fate of two sendings (6 in each voyage) of V2 crates and engines to Far East.i supposed why this served to future medium range missile or possibly native space rockets.

Among exists other strange coincidences with German and Japanese tecnological secret researchs why as possibly encounter if making one depht research at respect.

More thanks for your amably attention. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Josl22 (talkcontribs) 19:45, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

SS Kiche Maru

Please take a look at the 洞爺丸事故 on this page. I think it helps to delete the Kiche Maru article but I don't think that I can explain well about it in English. So please help me. Thank you. Oda Mari (talk) 17:20, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

P.S. See also Toya Maru. Oda Mari (talk) 17:24, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Links to Municipalities

Hello Fg2, and thank you for the help with the links to municipalities. I am still getting used to Wikipedia, and any advice would be useful. Thanks again, Mmuroya (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 23:41, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Hi, Fg2! The deleted talkpage had absolutely no history or content - my deletion was just routine housekeeping. Yours, east.718 at 08:46, April 13, 2008


Image Deletion

Hi, you removed the proposed deletion tag from Image Dr_david_ellsworth.jpg. Well, it was me to upload the image and it turned out, that I could not verify if the person on the image is really the person in question. So it must be deleted. Can you help with this issue, please?Scip (talk) 22:10, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Hi Scip, I have no objection to deleting the image. However, proposed deletion is not for images. You can use Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion to request deletion of an image file. If it's something you really want to hide during the deletion process, you can take a photo of a blank wall, and upload it by clicking the "Upload a new version" link (I've done similar things at Commons). I hope that helps. You can also check out Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion to see if anything there applies to your situation. Best regards, Fg2 (talk) 07:27, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Many months ago, you edited something I'd created which incorporated internal links in a sub-heading (as I've done here). I don't remember the context, but I was persuaded that mine was an inelegant strategy. I took your point to be suggesting that it would have been better to place any useful links in an introductory sentence. Whether or not it was your intention, this is the lesson I took away from a minor edit which is long forgotten.

I've now encountered a similar pattern in the body of two articles User:Tadakuni created for lists of rōjū and tairō. As I scan what he has wrought, I'm reminded of a dimly-recalled point-of-view I once held. The page looks just fine and the links do work well enough ..., but I suspect that there was something more to whatever it was you suggested in circumstances I can't bring to mind now. Whatever it was I thought you explained did seem convincing to me at the time.

Do you recall something about the reasons why this might matter one way or another? Why not? Why would it be better to avoid inserting a link in headings? Since then, my thoughts have been focused elsewhere and I can't remember why this small point could possibly matter -- if indeed, it matters at all.

If I've simply remembered something incompletely or incorrectly, then I guess I need to invite you to join me in chuckling about a curious misunderstanding? Does any of this ring any bells? Can you help refresh my memory? --Tenmei (talk) 01:38, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Hello Tenmei, and thanks for asking for clarification about links in section titles. The change I made was not solely for personal preference, but also for conformity with Wikipedia's manual of style.
Although the manual of style has undergone major revisions in recent months, it still has advice about this point. In Wikipedia:Manual of Style#Article titles you'll find the guidance "Links cannot be used in article titles, and should not be used in section titles; instead, link the first occurrence of the phrase in the body of the text." I don't know where the discussion that led to the adoption of this provision can be found, but I'd guess one reason for avoiding links in section titles is that the blue link is more distracting in the boldface and large type of a header than it is in body text. But rather than take my guess for it, you may prefer to check the talk pages of the manual of style (and the pages that were merged into it), or ask at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style.
Additionally, traditional style guides recommend avoiding using a pronoun to refer to a noun in a heading, but instead repeating the noun. As a result, there's a natural place for the link in the opening sentence of the new section. To illustrate, if a header says "==Shikoku==," the first sentence does not say "It is Japan's fourth-largest island." Instead, one repeats the noun in the heading, writing "Shikoku is Japan's fourth-largest island." The link can be in the opening sentence just as easily as in the heading, so the "no links in headings" principle doesn't add needless complexity to writing.
I hope this helps you understand my editing. Best regards, Fg2 (talk) 10:29, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Photo of Lake Shikotsu

Hey there Fg2,

You took this picture of Lake Shikotsu and uploaded it to Wikicommons. Can you tell me where you took the picture from? I would be interested in trying to identify the mountains on the far side of the lake. I am updating the articles for Mount Tarumae, Mount Eniwa, and soon to be Mount Fuppushi.

Thanks! imars (talk) 13:13, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Though now that I look closer, this looks more like looking out into Lake Toya at Nakajima. Perhaps here? imars (talk) 13:27, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
Hi Imars, and thanks for the question. I was in Hokkaido in 1992 (I think) and traveled from Hakodate to Sapporo, stopping at various places along the way. My guess is that when I scanned the photo a few years ago, it was labeled Shikotsuko. It's possible I had mislabeled it, and that it's Toya-ko. The next time I get the chance, I'll look for that photo and see if I can find out more. (I've got ten or twenty thousand prints and slides so it might take some doing.) Meanwhile, I'd say you're right based on comparison with the photo below. One thing I've started doing with digital is photographing signs when I arrive at a place. That way I have a record, and all the photos have time stamps and serial numbers.

Fg2 (talk) 20:51, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Hey, you were there the same time I was. :-) I lived there from 1991 to 1993 in southeastern Hokkaido. I need to go back and scan some of my pictures. imars (talk) 13:44, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
What a coincidence! I bet you have great photos. Mine are limited by the weather that one day... Fg2 (talk) 03:07, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Onna bugeisha

Hi. If the links you found only came from a fiction writer I see a problem. If there is to be an article on a single term it needs a decent amount of academic use. Maybe it should be deleted to be on the safe side? John Smith's (talk) 10:33, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

original research

Hi. Original Research is anything that is unpublished. So then what did you mean here? Best, --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 05:12, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Hi Brewcrewer, and thanks for asking about my removal of a deletion proposal from a synopsis of a television episode. The policy you linked proscribes several specific types of things: "This includes unpublished facts, arguments, speculation, and ideas; and any unpublished analysis or synthesis of published material that serves to advance a position. This means that Wikipedia is not the place to publish your own opinions or experiences." A television show is a publication. Since the synopsis lists things that were published in the TV show, those things are not original research. The synopsis is unpublished, but that would only violate the policy if it were an analysis or synthesis to advance a position. The synopsis does not serve to advance a position, so it's not a problem.
Let me give an example of analysis or synthesis to advance a position. If someone's thesis were that U.S. television shows present college students as fun-loving free spirits whose callous disrespect for law and order leads to serious crime, and the researcher tried to support this thesis by using this CSI episode as one example, Wikipedia would not be the place to publish it. In contrast, a synopsis that says "this happened; then that happened" is not an attempt to prove a thesis. Fg2 (talk) 05:39, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but I disgree. A television show cannot be considered a publication. It is just an event that happended to take place in front of a video camera. Therefore, the synopsis, unless published somewhere, is original research.
Original research doesn't require that the "original researcher" try to advance a certain position. Agreed that "advancing a position" is a worse type of original research, and is probably one of the main factors behind the original research rule, but anything that is unpublished, whether trying to advance a position or merely reporting what was percieved to be taking place on TV - is original research. --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 06:58, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
No problem. Best regards, Fg2 (talk) 07:26, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Japanese cultural portrayal page

Fg2, I admire your determination in creating the page entitled Japanese historical people in popular culture, but it is important to properly understand the circumstances before rashly enforcing a course of action that will not bear any benefit. First of all, with this page's growth, the demand for co-related references to justify the information told will become an immediate necessity, which of course presents a detriment that would have been largely unneeded if such information were left alone in the biographical article of its respective historical figure. Second: Wikipedia requires that only a minimum number of images are applied to a single article, which will subsequently result in the removal of the greater majority of the images I have taken the time to upload and distribute within the past. Third: If you realistically believe that each historical figure from Japanese history can have their respective cultural portrayal distributed to a single page, then you will need to re-evaluate the situation and see that it would be impossible and consistently open itself to unnecessary expansion and criticism. Fourth: The trivia represented within each historical figure's biographical article can co-exist with all other information stated, only that it is simply unfavored due to constituting variable lengths of original research and an uncecessary degree of references. With these four points of reasoning, there is obviously nothing to be gained by what you are doing, and I request that you comprehend such rational suggestions and forthwith cease from such a detrimental and largely unforsightful course of action. User:Exiled Ambition 29 April 2008 (EST)

Hello Exiled Ambition, and thank you for the thoughtful reply. Since this is about the article Japanese historical people in popular culture, and you posted similar comments on the article's talk page, let's discuss it there. Best regards, Fg2 (talk) 20:49, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Hi. I see you removed my PROD and suggested transferring this to Commons. Could you advise me or, better, advise Stephengough19 (talk · contribs) who produced it, how to do that? He is a fairly new editor, who is evidently "into" images in a big way. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 09:56, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

I don't really know the process; it's something called "transwiki" and it can be done to another Wikimedia project like Commons but not to Wikitravel. On the other hand, since it's a one-editor article he can simply copy it (and the photos) to Commons. I'll let him know. Fg2 (talk) 09:59, 5 May 2008 (UTC)


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Bugaku merged into Bugaku (ballet)

As I am the sole author of both Bugaku (ballet) and Bugaku, the latter an accidental creation, I have merged them (into the former, as bugaku — in the Japanese, not the balletic, sense — is a proper topic for its own page. Thank you for catching my mistake! — Robert Greer (talk) 19:14, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Great! Glad that's all straightened out. Thanks Fg2 (talk) 22:09, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Busume?

Ouch -- thank you! Hoary (talk) 11:03, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Kamakura Mouths

Changed Mouth to Entrance, as you wanted, and moved main article. Urashimataro (talk) 00:30, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. That reads more naturally. Interestingly, the Japanese Wikipedia article 鎌倉七口 describes them as 「入口」so it seems reasonable in English to call them "entrances" too. BTW, I like the article! Fg2 (talk) 01:54, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Dear Fg2, this new article I created could use your trained eye. I'm not sure all my rōmaji is correct. I'm also having trouble finding articles to link to it. Thanks in advance for your help! Brian Adler (talk) 08:23, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Brian, thanks for letting me know about the new article. I took a close look at it, but could only find a few minor points, mostly matters of Wikipedia style. It's an interesting and informative article, with attractive illustrations. And it puts the English Wikipedia ahead of the Japanese. Thank you! Fg2 (talk) 10:19, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for cleaning it up for me. I nominated it for DYK and it's being promoted soon, so that's nice! Brian Adler (talk) 13:26, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Dear Fg2 (二八様)

Hajimemashite.

You edited (undid) the article "Japanese name" (Undid revision 212743071 by Jbgjbg) and commented "That topic's already mentioned a few paragraphs up in the article." But I don't understand the comment. (I'm not very good at English.) Please let me know what you mean in other words.

Yoroshiku Onegaiitashimasu.--Jbgjbg (talk) 15:23, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Dear Jbgjbg-sama,
Hajimemashite. Thank you for contributing to Wikipedia.
The addition you made to the article was "Sometimes surnames are written in all caps to avoid confusion." However, if you look at Japanese name#Japanese names in English you can see that someone already wrote "As this differs from the ordering used in many other parts of the world, some, particularly academics, adopt the convention of writing the family name in upper case when the name is romanized: for example, Takuya MURATA or MURATA Takuya." (I added boldface formatting to make the words easy to find. Note that "all caps" and "upper case" here mean the same thing.) So the subject you wrote about was already part of the article.
I hope this makes my change clear.
Best regards, Fg2 (talk) 22:27, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Dear Fg2 (二八様)

Thank you for your reply. I'm sorry (as you thought) I didn't know the word "upper case" has the same meaning of "capital". But now I understand.

Arigatogozaimashita.

Best regards--Jbgjbg (talk) 00:09, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Related?

Hi Fg2.. just a question, is an article really "Japan-related" if it is a general list that happens to contain one or two Japanese items? Seems to be stretching it a bit... If the same logic was applied to every list then the X-related deletion discussion lists would be pretty packed. Deiz talk 11:06, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Good question. You must be referring to my adding List of largest suburbs in the world to Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Japan. My thinking there was that Japan has three in the top 14 on the list, including the lone top entry. Does listing the article cause a problem of some sort? Fg2 (talk) 11:15, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
That's what I figured, and indeed no, no problem. The only issue would be if there were a cabal of die-hard Japan-loving inclusionists who automatically flood every discussion on the board with keep votes out of sheer Japanishness.. Japanesity.. well, there must be a word. Assuming that doesn't happen, no worries :) Deiz talk 11:39, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
Nah. Browse Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Japan/archive — you'll see the group is pretty much in the middle on the inclusion/deletion scale. More interested in articles than ideologies. Drop by the Project page. The more the merrier! Fg2 (talk) 12:05, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

An editor I need help with

I found you through Wikiproject Japan. I was wondering if you knew someone who maybe could adopt User:Electric Japan. I don't speak Japanese, and he doesn't speak English very well. It's difficult for me to explain things to him. He has conflicts with other editors about material he's been adding to various articles. Let me know. Thanks, Enigma message 20:47, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Pawsox Radio Network deletion

Thanks! I'll check into it!Stereorock (talk) 00:39, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Bidou Yamaguchi's name

Dear Fg2 - Thanks for your editing of my recent article "Bidou Yamaguchi." It was very helpful. There is one thing that I would like you to reverse. You changed Bidou, the artist's name that Yamaguchi uses, to Bido with a macron. This would be technically correct as far as form is concerned, but in terms of correct usage in a Wikipedia article Bidou seems to be the correct form. I base this on the Wikipedia Manual of Style (Japan), Names #3, where it says, with regard to the macron, that the form of the name used in the English language world is the correct form. In everything I have read about Bidou in English, such as articles, museum brochures, and even his own website and his signature in Western script all use "Bidou" rather than the macron. So rule #3 and consistent usage in our English language context both point toward eliminating the macron form. Again, thanks for your good editing. Mitakadai (talk) 16:34, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Added note about Bidou Yamaguchi

Dear Fg2 - I had to locate the reference to macrons in the text of articles and the use of Names of modern people. It is located in Wikipedia: Manual of Style (Japan related), at Names, Names of modern people, #3, and it says: "Use the form publicly used on behalf of the person in the English-speaking world." Thanks again Mitakadai (talk) 17:18, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

I understand. Thank you for the explanation, and for the article. Fg2 (talk) 21:19, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Sarakin

hey there. i noticed from your page you seem to edit many Japan-related articles. Feel free to make Sarakin more accurate/better than it currently is, if you are familiar with the topic. Information was hard to come by (in English), and my Japanese is terrible so I did not get anywhere with getting content from the ja.wiki page. I think my article might be a bit misleading in terms of characterizing all sarakin as 'loan sharks'. It may have been the case a few years ago, but it seems they've all gone mainstream these days and some have even been bought out by the banks. Am i on the right track here? Indeed, is sarakin mainstream enough to simply be merged into consumer finance, under a Japan heading? Cheers and arigatoo Suicup (talk) 06:19, 27 May 2008 (UTC) Also, if you are able to put in the hiragana/kanji script into the page (like other Jap related pages) that would be awesome, as I don't have the computer knowledge to do so... ;) Suicup (talk) 06:21, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Done. Thanks for the article! You mentioned merging sarakin into consumer finance; a different possibility is to rename the article Consumer finance in Japan and make a major section for sarakin. How would that sound? Consumer lending must have an interesting history in premodern Japan (I don't take jidaigeki as history lessons, but they provide inspiration for topics to read about, and today I watched a show in which the guest star's role was a petty lender). There must be more developments as Japan industrialized and urbanized, and in the Occupation. I'd say it's good reason to keep the article on CF in Japan separate from the global article. Fg2 (talk) 04:15, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
Sounds good to me. I don't have time right now to do it, but will do so if someone doesn't beat me to it. Cheers Suicup (talk) 11:33, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Colon?

Hi Fg2, I noticed you edited my comment on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of scientists opposing the mainstream scientific assessment of global warming (2nd nomination). I can see that your edit hasn't been detrimental to my original comment, however I fail to see what adding a colon actually achieved? Any chance you could elaborate? Don't worry, I'm not moaning or anything, I'm just hopingn you can satisfy my curiosity that's all. Deamon138 (talk) 11:34, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi Deamon138, and thanks for asking. I wrote in the edit summary, "Added a colon to Category:Global warming skeptics within Deamon138's comment to make it visible and to prevent putting this AfD (and WP:AFD) in that category." That is, prior to the addition of the colon, there were two problems: (1) the text "Category:Global warming skeptics" did not appear (look at the last sentence of your text and you'll notice it missing: it should follow "as well as" in "However, we have this article here as well as, which are both articles about on solely skeptics ..."), and (2) the Articles for Deletion discussion became included in the category (check the Categories line at the bottom). (In fact, even Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2008 May 29 was in the category as a result.) After I added the colon, as you can see here, the text appears (notice it after "as well as" in "However, we have this article here as well as Category:Global warming skeptics ..."), and the Articles for Deletion discussion is no longer in that category. More information about linking to categories is available at Wikipedia:Categorization#Links to categories. I hope that helps! Best regards, Fg2 (talk) 11:52, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
AH yes I see. Thanks for that, that's great! Deamon138 (talk) 13:21, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Re-thinking what I've written?

Fg2 -- I'd like to invite a little feedback on a couple of minor problems, please:

  • I've created a list of African heads of state attending the Tokyo International Conference on African Development. This list of TICAD-IV attendees is alphabetized by the names of these national leaders, but I wonder if it might be better to re-alphabetize the list by country? Maybe it doesn't matter? Do you have a suggestion about how I might have construed this list so that I might have answered this question myself without bothering you?
  • In a quite different realm, I'm wondering if any glaring problems leap out from what I've created concerning Aozora Bunko? Does anything strikes you as over-reaching? My earlier efforts to achieve a neutral stance produced insipid prose, but now I can't quite tell whether I've over-compensated.

In both these articles, I'm just a little unsure of my balance. --Tenmei (talk) 00:20, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi Tenmei, and thanks for asking. I've glanced at the first article and I think there's an answer to your question, although I don't know the technical details. If you use a sortable table, you can put names in one column and nations in another, with buttons in the column headers. When a reader clicks one of the buttons, the table sorts by that column. See Prefectures of Japan#List in alphabetical order for an example. Regarding Aozora Bunko, I'll take a look, perhaps today or soon. Thanks as always! Fg2 (talk) 01:24, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for that suggestion about using the table format. This "sortable" wikitable not only resolves the questions I thought I had, but it inspired a number of unanticipated ways of viewing the resultant data sets. Nice step in a constructive direction -- elegant. I've also tried to use something you suggested Urashimataro might want to use in Kamakura, Kanagawa. The article about Tokyo International Conference on African Development is doesn't really need the distraction of a list of attendees -- although it turns out to be an important aspect of TICAD-IV's perceived success. So, I've linked to TICAD Delegations using the template.
As for Aozora Bunko, I'm withdrawing from further edits to that article for the time-being -- just not worth the trouble. The questions which seemed relevant can lie un-addressed for a few months without causing harmful consequences. Perhaps I'll re-visit these it in the autumn. --Tenmei (talk) 02:03, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Satake Corporation

Thanks for adding the Nihon name to the page I created. Curious, how did you know I just created it, and that it was about a Japanese company? You have a bot that searches out the word Japan?

I have added more to page since you contributed to it. Mata ne ^_^ --Flightsoffancy (talk) 22:22, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

No, no bots for me! I was looking at Special:Newpages, which lists all new pages, and scanning by eyeball for anything that looks related to Japan. Low-tech approach! Fg2 (talk) 02:35, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Yaesu VX-150

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Requested move of ume

You previously participated in a move request of ume. I have revived the request so please visit Talk:Ume#Requested move if you care to contribute. — AjaxSmack 16:11, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for catching the infobox goof. That's what I get for writing things when I'm tired.

On a related note, we should get news of her death and the Akihabara massacre onto Wikinews. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 09:34, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

And DYK? Thanks for the edits to Akihabara massacre. Fg2 (talk) 09:40, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
No problem. Yes, DYK would be a good place, too. I've never really done anything with DYK. It would be good to include Yoshiaki Hoshi and Himekami, too, if possible. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 09:48, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
Himekami meets the minimum length of 1500 characters of plain text (not counting headings, references etc.). It may be difficult for me to achieve but I'll see what I can do... Hoshi needs more text to make it too. Fg2 (talk) 09:51, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

FA-class for Toyotomi Hideyoshi

Hi, I'm from vi.wiki and we just have translated whole article. I really want to classify it as a FA there. We have got into some obstacles, however , due to the reason that it didn't hold a FA in en.wiki, wondering if you could help us to fulfill that achievement by taking time for its improvement. Thank you.Hanzo2050 (talk) 19:11, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi Hanzo2050, and thanks for the information about translation of the article on Toyotomi Hideyoshi into Vietnamese. Unfortunately, I have only a limited amount of time to work on Wikipedia this summer, so while I'll be glad to make some improvements to the English article, I won't be able to put in the effort necessary to raise it to featured quality. I suggest listing it at Wikipedia:WikiProject Japan#Top importance articles → FA and also Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Japan. That will get as many members of the WikiProject Japan team as possible on the project. You can also ask other relevant WikiProjects, such as Biography, History, and Korea. I wish you success in making it a featured article on the Vietnamese Wikipedia. Best regards, Fg2 (talk) 20:46, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for your speedy response. We will do everything for its FA acceptance because Japan related topic is one of my best favorites also.Hanzo2050 (talk) 04:30, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

ITN

Current events globe On 15 June, 2008, In the news was updated with a news item that involved the article(s) 2008 Iwate earthquake, which you created or substantially updated. If you know of another interesting news item involving a recently created or updated article, then please suggest it on the In the news candidates page.

--BanyanTree 00:10, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Featured articles on Arabic Wikipedia

It happens that I read Arabic, therefore I just check the Arabic FA page. If you want, you can click on the links and try to guess the articles (hint: look at the interlanguage link). Eklipse (talk) 23:03, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

I've rescinded the multiple nomination on this AFD and am now suggesting that it runs on this one particular article with a view to gauging community thoughts on individual phone articles. I'll then use that as a basis to decide how to approach the other ones. You may wish to change or add to your contributions here as the basis of the AFD is changed - this is a courtesy notice to allow you to do so if you wish. Exxolon (talk) 23:34, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I appreciate both the change and the notice. Fg2 (talk) 09:42, 25 June 2008 (UTC)