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ePLAR[edit]

This page will showcase the new echo parameter ePLAR. The first public showing of supporting clinical data data will be at the American College of Cardiology conference in San Diego on Monday 16.3.2015. There will be two referencable presentations/publications at that meeting. A paper is in review at Journal of the American Society of Echocardiography. Once these publications and presentations are released, the ePLAR will certainly be noteworthy and referencable and valid. Please allow the page to stay live until those supporting data can be added in 2 weeks time. Cheers Greg Scalia — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.58.60.7 (talk) 22:50, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

As noted on a comment a few minutes ago (before I logged in), supporting presentations and publications for ePLAR will be in the public domain in 2 weeks. Please allow the page to stand until that time, as it will certainly be noteworthy and referenced then Greg Scalia — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gmscalia (talkcontribs) 22:53, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

ePLAR is being presented at ACC meeting on the 16.3.2015. Greg Scalia is well published author/researcher on the subject of echocardiography. http://www.pubfacts.com/author/Greg+Scalia Not unfeasible to await the 2 weeks for the publication and subsequent peer review. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheMikol23 (talkcontribs) 08:28, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Gmscalia and TheMikol23 you both have a clear conflict of interest and should refrain from editing the article. Please see WP:COI. Flat Out let's discuss it 06:00, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
User: Flat Out i have no conflict at all. There is nothing overblown or self promoting about the ePLAR article, it simply outlines a new echocardiogram parameter which is in development, enlisting the source of the theory to validate my work and add references. As it is will not be text books for many months, wikipedia is the appropriate place. It is egregious use of you to be pushing for deletion of information which will be used in the education of medial diagnosis. Simply because the article is partially edited by the original source the ePLAR theory, whom has more than ample credibility as source in in the field or echo cardiology. TheMikol23 (talk) 01:01, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
TheMikol23 you fail to understand how wikipedia works. Until independent, secondary sources have written about the subject it doesn't meet wikipedia standards for notability. You might also have another read of WP:COI and WP:SOCK. Flat Out let's discuss it 05:32, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

User Name[edit]

Hi Flat Out, I went through the username policy but was unable to understand why my name is in violation of it. Could you help me further on this please? Thank you! Also, thanks for the response to my query. Teamyoddhas (talk) 06:38, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

Teamyoddhas Team Yoddhas - it implies you are representing the organisation. 09:23, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

Promotional content[edit]

Hi, how can I write about Tennis Academy without promoting it? thanks for advice.. it's about EMPIRE Tennis Academy... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leonard Popovic (talkcontribs) 00:18, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Leonard Popovic you can't unless you have independent secondary sources that have writtwen about the academy. Flat Out let's discuss it 00:21, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Hi Flat Out, I don't know why you have deleted all the informations about the tennis coach Miloslav Grolmus, the players like Jozef Kovalík and Filip Horanský are notable, they are in the ATP rankings... and they have own profiles... another informations about Grolmus were also sourced but mostly in Slovak language... there are no other sources.. please, explain in to me, I was publishing this article for 3 hours and now is all my work gone... thanks

Kovalík: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jozef_Koval%C3%ADk Horanský: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filip_Horansk%C3%BD — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leonard Popovic (talkcontribs) 07:25, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Leonard Popovic every edit I made has an edit summary to explain why. Flat Out let's discuss it 10:59, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

The Links on Mushtaq Pahalgami are working again. Could you please unmark them dead now. 116.202.32.100 (talk) 14:33, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Deletion of Privacy and Search engines[edit]

I am aware of the deletion notice, I am making adjustments necessary that would aid my defense to have it included. Is there a deadline for this notice before deletion takes effect? Can I also switch to articles of creation to offset the deletion process, while I am working on getting all content areas up to scratch. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kaelox (talkcontribs) 15:16, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Kaelox, please read WP:NOTESSAY. Flat Out let's discuss it 21:23, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Notability[edit]

I wouldn't call that heavy editing, you simply deleted all of them... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leonard Popovic (talkcontribs) 17:54, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

You can't write about living people if you dont have a reference. Flat Out let's discuss it 21:31, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

So, if these players (Kovalík, Horanský) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jozef_Koval%C3%ADk Horanský and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filip_Horansk%C3%BD are not notable, why there are articles about them on Wikipedia? do you use double standard on Grolmus? The same thing with Platenik and Molnar... who are these persons on wikipedia for example?

One of them won a major title, not sure if that meets the standard. The other is unsourced and I have marked for deletion. Just because you find articles on Wikipedia that are also poorly referenced doesn't mean yoyurs can stay as it is. There are hundreds of thousands of articles here and I am only commenting on those I have read and edited. Flat Out let's discuss it 21:31, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaun_Thompson_%28fitness%29 (backup dancer for Mariah Carey?!) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jillian_Michaels_%28personal_trainer%29 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Harper_%28personal_trainer%29 (celebrity client Jennifer Jason Leigh)

I suggest you read WP:BLPNOTE. Jillian Michaels and Bob Harper have extensive coverage in the media by independent, secondary sources. They clearly meet the standard. Shaun Thompson is a close call but you can see it has been heavikly edited by User:Cult of Green for the same reason.Flat Out let's discuss it 21:31, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

and etc... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leonard Popovic (talkcontribs) 18:00, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

OK, you said that Filip Horanský will be deleted... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filip_Horansk%C3%BD... but you are wrong because he met the standards, by the way..

I didn't say Filip Horanski will be deleted, I said that you didn't provide any reference for his inclusion in your article.Flat Out let's discuss it 02:13, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

You send me this: This guideline applies equally to singles and doubles players. Junior players are presumed to be notable if they have won at least a junior Grand slam title, have been in the top 3 of the junior ITF world rankings or can be shown to meet the wider requirements of WP:GNG. And: Horanský became No. 3 in the ITF rankings in May 2011 when he won singles title at the 52nd Trofeo Bonfigli tournament in Milano. - so he was No. 3 in the world... you deleted this, too..

Yes, Horanský is notable udner that definition. That doesn't necessarily make his coach notable, because one person can not inherit notability from aother person. Flat Out let's discuss it 02:13, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

So can we agreed that I know little bit more about these players and coaches than you? I have no idea why I can't write about Platenik (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladim%C3%ADr_Pl%C3%A1ten%C3%ADk) that he was a coach of Dominika Cibulkova or Nadia Petrova, well-known tennis players.. you left just this sentence - In 2014, it was announced that Pláteník had begun working with the WTA player Patricia Mayr-Achleitner from Austria.... it's very odd... Cibulkova @ Platenik cooperation: http://www.foxnews.com/printer_friendly_wires/2009Jun02/0,4675,TENFrenchOpen,00.html... Petrova & Platenik cooperation (by the way, there is mistake, he is not her coach for a long time - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nadia_Petrova) - early life section: Petrova says that hard courts are her favourite surface, but she has been most successful on clay courts. She is currently coached by Vladimir Platenik (wrong information - if I will change it, you will delete it, too?).

Wikipedia needs you to write articles for other readers not yourself - and you need to supply references so that other editors can verify that what you are writing is correct and fair. You haven't done that. Flat Out let's discuss it 02:13, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

for example see Nick Bolletieri: NO source for a lot of players: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Bollettieri Nicholas James Bollettieri (born July 31, 1931), is an American tennis coach, born to Italian parents, who is credited with developing many leading players, including Andre Agassi, Jim Courier, Monica Seles, and Mary Pierce. He also has worked with Maria Sharapova, Daniela Hantuchová, Jelena Janković, Nicole Vaidišová, Sabine Lisicki, Sara Errani, Tommy Haas, Max Mirnyi, Xavier Malisse, Venus Williams, Serena Williams, Martina Hingis, Anna Kournikova, Marcelo Ríos, Kei Nishikori, and coached Boris Becker for two years.

Nick Bollettieri is tagged at the top of the article because it doesn't have enough sources and it also needs some sections removed because they breach [WP:BLP]]. Flat Out let's discuss it 02:13, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

Flat Out, you have deleted all my articles (Grolmus, Molnar, Platenik) without any possibility to talk about edition of this articles before (I have no problem with that).. I don't think that this is correct and fair and let's talk about all of three coaches what we can publish again and what not... thank you.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leonard Popovic (talkcontribs) 23:21, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

[[User:Leonard Popovic|Leonard Popovic]I haven't deleted any articles, I have edited them. You dont own the articles. Anyone can edit them. I deleted sections of the articles because they were in breach of WP:BLP. Everything you write about a living person must be supoorted by a reliable source. You should read that policy.
I'm not able to delete articles but I can edit them and I can nominate articles for deletion if I don't believe they met the required standard. Nominating articles is not a personal attack on you, its to ensure articles are of an encyclopedic nature. When you write an article about a topic, you need to make sure that you supply reliable sources to support those articles so that other editors can verify that what you are writing is correct. We don't just take your word for it. Thanks for your contribution. Flat Out let's discuss it 01:48, 3 March 2015 (UTC)