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Sergio Busquets and Míchel Salgado[edit]

Hi there FO, AL "here", can you tell me exactly what is wrong with the Sergio Busquets section that was removed (you seemed to be against it being removed, now you are FOR it being removed, as you did to that anon user)? Where does it need to be reworded, i'll do it? Same goes regarding Míchel Salgado, that user Panhead is really being annoying in my humble opinion. Attentively --AL (talk) 15:09, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

  • For trying to help out (i am not pro/anti Juninho/Salgado/Motta/Busquets), was called a vandal and accused of having an agenda. Just like you last week, i was accused of stalking the aforementioned user. To show i wanted to work as a team with him, i even removed the Juninho incident in Salgado's page altogether and added more refs and a "neutral" storyline (since the last one was "biased" according to Panhead), served exactly the same, i am not even allowed to do anything in said articles other than removing the Juninho incident, other than that i'm summarily reverted.

I repeat, for wanting to help i got this --AL (talk) 16:20, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

Well this is all very cosy. Busted! Panhead2014 (talk) 16:25, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

  • Busted? And what's the penalty? And you accuse other people of stalking... --AL (talk) 16:37, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

Absolutely gutwrenching idiocy, he's totally and uttely convinced i am stalking him. I have started a discussion at WP:FOOTY and notified him also per WP rules (please drop a line here --AL (talk) 16:47, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

You can still partake in the discussion of course, but i'm leaving after eight years. Too bad i had to leave on this note, but the insults and the aggravation were just too much, no kind words, only belittling and akin. Keep it up, happy vibes. --AL (talk) 19:02, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

AL there are discussions on the article talk pages of the articles in question that would be a better place for discussing the content in question. I reverted my own edits at Sergio Busquets based on discussion at AN3 which showed there was an issue with a section that Panhead2014 had removed and I had reinstated. I am happy with where it was left and that is why I haven't been back to that article. I was also having trouble getting a discussion on content rather than the contributors so I moved on. In terms of the Míchel Salgado article I made an edit - it was reverted and I'm also happy with where that is at. If you believe there is a case for rewording the sections then please put up a proposal on the article talk pages and seek consensus. I don't know enough about the subject to make a good call about whether the reference was being given undue weight or not, so I left it alone. Flat Out let's discuss it 00:15, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

The Signpost: 23 July 2014[edit]


HI, I am returning you message regarding the tag on the Page SCAN Spanish Contemporary Art Netwrok. Could you please explain why it might be erased? — Preceding unsigned comment added by SCAN-ARTE (talkcontribs) 10:56, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

SCAN-ARTE it's an advertisement, not an encyclopedic article. See WP:ORG. Your username is also promotional and not allowed. Flat Out let's discuss it 11:00, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
I don't understand. See this entry for example, an oil company. Is this not promotional? The page you are about to erase is a NON COMMERCIAL NON PROMOTIONAL iniciative and aims inform about culture and Knowdleg. SCAN is not a company, not an organization, is an cultural iniciative widely vetted by experts in the field. I will have a very clear and different view of this encyclopedic source if an OIL company like ARCO has a place and an important art iniciative. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SCAN-ARTE (talkcontribs) 11:28, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
SCAN-ARTE - ARCO is an article that details what independent, secondary, reliable sources have to say on the subject of a notable company, yours is an article on what SCAN says about itself. If SCAN has been "widely vetted by experts" then you should write about what those experts said and use those sources rather than your own website. Also read WP:42 and conflict of interest Flat Out let's discuss it 11:35, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

Flight 772 BLP?[edit]

Forgive me for sounding stupid, but how was that a BLP violation? That's the actual name of the passenger as listed in my sources. DaL33T (talk) 13:29, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

Hi DaL33T, its covered at WP:BLPCRIME. Cheers Flat Out let's discuss it 13:31, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
Ah, I see. Sorry. DaL33T (talk) 13:32, 26 July 2014 (UTC)


Can you explain what I did wrong? Earlier QME had a single meaning, now two meanings occur in Wikipedia. It seemed reasonable to turn the redirection into a disambiguation page. What should I have done? Ann1573 (talk) 14:32, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

your edit is fine and I have reinstated it, thanks for the question. I'd explain but I'm on a mobile device. Flat Out let's discuss it 06:38, 27 July 2014 (UTC)


hello flat out, can i ask a question? Wtbm — Preceding undated comment added 11:12, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

Wtbm how can I help you? Flat Out let's discuss it 11:18, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
thank you flat out, how can i talk to you? email? whatsapp? viber? is there any solotion to ask my question in private? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wtbm (talkcontribs) 11:41, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
Wtbm you can ask me here. Flat Out let's discuss it 11:44, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
ok, thank you, i want to create an article about my brand? i have several refrences about my brand, but i'm sure when ever i create my article it would be deleted, because its about a company. but in wikipedia are thousands of company articles. can you show me a solotion that what i have to do before creating my article? thank you so much.
Wtbm the article needs to meet this standard WP:CORP and because you have a conflict of interest you shouldn't be writing the article. Flat Out let's discuss it 11:52, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
ok mr flat out, you are right. but a part of my company is educating, ( i educate jewellery designing with software). can i create my article just abut this part of my company, because i saw in CSD A7. that educational institutions are not eligible under this criterion. thank you for your kind. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wtbm (talkcontribs) 12:05, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
Wtbm it isn't an educational institution. Flat Out let's discuss it 12:14, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

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