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The Don Valley Parkway is a controlled-access six-lane municipal expressway in Toronto connecting the Gardiner Expressway with Highway 401. North of Highway 401, it continues as Highway 404 to Newmarket. The parkway runs through the parklands of the Don River valley, after which it is named. It was the second expressway to be built by Metropolitan Toronto (Metro). Planning began in 1954, the year of Metro's formation. The first section opened on August 31, 1961, and the final section on November 17, 1966. The parkway operates well beyond its intended capacity of 60,000 vehicles per day and is known for daily traffic jams; some sections carry an average of 100,000 vehicles a day. Planned as part of a larger expressway network within Toronto, it was one of the few expressways built before the public opposition which cancelled many of the others. (more...)

Congrats Floydian on having played a big part in getting the article to this status. -papageno (talk) 21:30, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

Pre-RFC straw poll

There is a brief straw poll to see if conducting a RFC on the question of coordinates in road articles is worthwhile. Your input would be appreciated. --Rschen7754 08:19, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

Genre Change

so,you're saying as if everybody's going to rely on only one song,thats utter nonsense. Metalvayne (talk) 16:06, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

I'm saying that rock is all encompassing for a band that is not strictly metal. To Bid You Farewell is a good example of the extreme opposite of that spectrum. - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ ^τ _¢ 23:54, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

Ferguson Highway

Follow up on Talk:Ontario Highway 11. Volcanoguy 18:48, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

Re: road message

Thanks for the heads-up. Working on road lists for Lanark and Brant, shold be up by Sunday. Jeremicus rex (talk) 02:21, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

Bad speedies

I was shocked that an admin accepted your speedy tag on Faraday - did you see how many incoming links it has? By all means convert this into a disambiguation page, but you certainly do not tag it for deletion. In the case of Emergency Detour Route, by all means tag this for deletion but you must fix the two incoming links before you do so. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:10, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

Please go back and delete them. You have undone the first steps necessary to convert them into A) a proper hatnoted page for a disambiguation of two items and B) the proper capitalization. This is why the speedies were for a page move, not to just delete the target of said moves. - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ ^τ _¢ 21:44, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Ontario Highway 71

Materialscientist (talk) 00:03, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

hey

Hey. Are you a SOAD member?

TejaswinG (talk) 16:33, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

...No... What would give you that impression? - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ ^τ _¢ 20:09, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

Lists of roads by county

I had to move List of numbered roads in Grey County, Ontario back... There was a Grey County in Western Australia and one in New Zealand. Since the Ontario location isn't the primary topic, the road list needs to be disambiguated as well. Imzadi 1979 → 21:33, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

No, only if another List of numbered roads in Foo County exists, as per WP:CANSTYLE and the standard setup for road lists in Ontario divisions (which isn't necessarily the same setup that'd be used Down Under. - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ ^τ _¢ 23:16, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

File:Dark side of the moon mobile fidelity cd FUI.jpg listed for deletion

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401 FA?

Want to give the 401 another shot at the FA nomination? It's been sitting in A-class nomination forever. With a past FA evaluation, ongoing promotion to A class and your FA success with the DVP, I think it's worth another go. The article has also improved vastly since the last FA review. Haljackey (talk) 02:10, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

Yeah its been itching at the back of my mind for a while now. I'd get far more constructive feedback out of a failed FA than out of a stagnant A-Class Review. I'll probably go for it on my study break in mid-October. - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ ^τ _¢ 04:14, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) I apologize about the ACR; I've tried to get that going again, but it's been difficult. --Rschen7754 05:00, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

Awesome, let me know of you need any help. Haljackey (talk) 19:59, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

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129.15.x.x IP vandal

Before you re-post this to AIV or ANI, I'd recommend seeing what WP:ABUSE can do. In a case like this, with a 65,000-address pool, we can't really rangeblock effectively. m.o.p 19:23, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

Thanks :) Just posted there. I had assumed AIV was the place for Ip vandalism of all types. - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ ^τ _¢ 19:32, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

So I assumed. I'll weigh in on AR as well. Cheers, m.o.p 19:39, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

I've created an edit filter to deal with our little problem. See here for more details. So far, it tests successfully - I'm going to unprotect all the protected pages and see how we hold up. m.o.p 20:37, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

Sockpuppet investigation is here. m.o.p 20:19, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

Just for reference...

That wasn't a template, it was a politely worded message. Being polite is a generally nice thing to do, and doesn't need a template, even though some people seem to rely on them! Jeni ^(talk) 22:38, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

Being polite means working politely. This includes collaborating with your fellow editors rather than serving as a bouncer of edits. The links and all caps currently in the article are against the manual of style, which is policy. I have no problem with them being in all caps on the regional destinations section (the target of the redirects), but on the junction list we are not attempting to replicate signage. It's not a huge issue to fix a few links instead of reverting the article to a policy-breaking state. - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ ^τ _¢ 22:42, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

Canada's Wonderland

Please look at Canada's Wonderland's talk page.--Dom497 (talk) 20:40, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

Talkback

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Haven't seen you on IRC for a couple days, so I thought I would ping you here. –Fredddie™ 05:23, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

Canada's Wonderland

Hello, just thought it was best to let you know that I may not be able to add the info you stated to the Canada's Wonderland article for a few days (maybe even over a week). I'm kinda busy outside of Wikipedia right now so I won't have much chances to add the info. If you really want to get the info added soon, you can always ask one of the other editors that edit the article (see history tab on article). Sorry.--Dom497 (talk) 21:40, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

No problemo. I was in no rush, I just wanted to provide the information and source that I had come across while doing research for highway articles. Cheers, ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ ^τ _¢ 22:40, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

WP:RFPP

Hello Floydian. Regarding your recent edit, "don't archive incomplete requests..", the archiving script does *not* remove incomplete reports. Unless it sees a response containing the string 'RFPP' (i.e. an admin answer) under the report it stays there forever. If it does see 'RFPP' then it removes the request from the board if more than 12 hours have passed since the last time it was edited. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 21:46, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

It was less than 24 hours... Maybe 90 minutes since the admin replied and three hours since I had initially posted it. - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ ^τ _¢ 23:59, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

The above diff does not show your request being dropped. Look again. It is still there, in both versions of the page. EdJohnston (talk) 03:26, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

Not strictly related, but starting a new thread seems silly; was File:Downtown Waterloo.png the only file in question, or were there others as well? I notice that Good Olfactory hasn't been active for a few days, so if it's just the one image I'm thinking we might as well unprotect so that you can upload a local copy, and deal with any disagreements that may arise at a later date. – Luna Santin (talk) 20:06, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

It is just the lone image. To be honest I don't even really want a local copy of the file itself. I just want to add a category to the image that is strictly on enwiki, as it is a category that is being used with the Ontario Roads wikiproject. Unfortunately that doesn't seem possible without having the file on en.wiki as well. - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ ^τ _¢ 20:26, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

Understood. I've unprotected the page at this time. – Luna Santin (talk) 22:54, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

• Bulleted list item

thanks for helping me editing this page. and i would like to get your more help if you can — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sayali bharambe (talk • contribs) 08:24, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

File:An Earthbound Misfit I.jpg listed at Redirects for discussion

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ONint

I moved ONint out of my userspace today. I also added the rowspans you wanted to the core, so you should review it. I did not pass through any of the new spans to ONint; I don't know what you want/need. –Fredddie™ 01:42, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

UPDATE OK, core update today. I added |primary_topic= and set it so that the only entry that will work is no. That being said, it's only really intended for the US, since we almost exclusively use City, State. So, we can now remove some of the workarounds added to ONint that were put in place because of primary topics. Unfortunately, a few links, like those for London, Ontario, now point to the other London... I added |ldab= to ONint to fix that.

The good news is that we can start creating country-specific templates, such as {{DEUint}} or {{GBRint}}. –Fredddie™ 00:20, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

Toronto school photos

Hi! I might add some Toronto school photo requests soon.

Do you take photos in suburban municipalities as well?

WhisperToMe (talk) 17:39, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

You may be best asking there as well as on my talk page, because I don't really check the request page very often. I can take pictures throughout most of Toronto, but I rarely head out to Etobicoke or Mississauga/Brampton. Vaughan is iffy, while Markham and Richmond Hill are no problem. I'll be out towards Pickering in the coming days, so if you have a request that-a-ways, fire away now! - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ ^τ _¢ 17:48, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

So far, here are my photo requests within Toronto:

Conseil scolaire Viamonde head office - 116, Cornelius Parkway, Toronto ON, M6L 2K5

Toronto Catholic District School Board head office - 80 Sheppard Avenue East, Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Conseil scolaire de district catholique Centre-Sud head office - 110 Drewry Avenue Toronto (Ontario) M2M 1C8

Have you already gone to Pickering?

WhisperToMe (talk) 05:36, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

Not yet... but the frost may mean I'm too late...

Anyways, is the first one the same place as Centre De La Jeunesse Maison Montessori‎ that is listed at that address on Google Maps, or is it a specific area of the building? The other two I will try to get this Tuesday or Wednesday when I can go by well after school has let out (thus not looking like a creeper). - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ ^τ _¢ 05:44, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

For the first - Whatever building the district administration is located in. In Houston I have some examples:

File:Hisd-hmw-008.JPG, File:StaffordMSDAdmin.JPG, File:DonaldsonSonnyAdminBuilding.JPG, or File:FBISDAdmin.jpg

However images of additional facilities at the site (like Centre De La Jeunesse Maison Montessori‎) would be appreciated too :)

For Pickering, I have some ideas:

Durham District School Board HQ: 400 Taunton Rd E Whitby, Ontario L1R 2K6

Durham Catholic District School Board: The Catholic Education Centre: 650 Rossland Road West Oshawa, Ontario, L1J 7C4

Thanks,

WhisperToMe (talk) 06:40, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

Alright, going to head out to take these today... Hopefully I don't get looked at as a pedophile or creeper, but by the time school is out and the kids gone, its dark out! - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ ^τ _¢ 18:28, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

FYI, RFU v. DFU

If an item fails WP:NFCC#1, you can tag it with {{subst:rfu}} instead of {{subst:dfu}}. It eases the process on you (you don't have to type the rationale), and the item is deleted more quickly. Cheers. Magog the Ogre (talk) 05:27, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up :) - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ ^τ _¢ 06:33, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

Wilson Lake Road

Sorry for the long delay. I just replied on Talk:Wilson Lake Road. Volcanoguy 12:35, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

Occupy Toronto edit summary

Hi Floydian. An edit summary like this is probably not a good idea. It takes away from your credibility as a neutral and serious editor, which I know that you are. Paul Erik ^{(talk)(contribs)} 03:39, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

UK roads

Could I also be clear that whilst WP:RJL offers no advice on how coordinates should be added to road junction lists - and you know fine well that that is the current state of affairs - you should not use RJL to further your personal dislike of coordinate columns.

To avoid further waste of our time, could I suggest that you desist from trying to own UK roads. By all means keep the US roads in the dark ages; I have no interest in them. Why not tolerate coords in UK roads, and let's see if anyone but you and your posse object? We've had precisely zero complaints or comments on other of the UK roads which have coord columns, suggesting that others who have the roads on their watchlists either approve or are indifferent. They tend to be four or five columns in width, and so there is not a space issue. --Tagishsimon (talk) 18:25, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Again, you seem to be forgetting User:Martinvl. --Rschen7754 18:30, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

She/He has not yet been involved in reverting UK motorway articles, so far as I've noticed. --Tagishsimon (talk) 18:52, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Then what's User talk:Tagishsimon#M5 coordinates? --Rschen7754 18:58, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

• If you feel they are warranted and that you have consensus, get the change made at WP:RJL. Since you haven't gotten any consensus, and the majority of the users at the talk page of that guideline disagree with the notion of adding a separate column, you are going against an unwritten in policy, but clearly visible opposition of numerous editors. Not being able to achieve the consensus at one venue doesn't mean that you move on to trying to launch it on a variety of articles; and I probably wouldn't be far off in assuming that somewhere down the road you will go into phase 2 and start using these articles that you've added the column to as evidence to support the use of them.

Also, claims of WP:OWNership are bogus at best and baseless at worst. I am free to edit road articles in any country. Though I only add content to Ontario, I am interested in maintaining the consistency on a global scale. Stick that in your pipe. - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ ^τ _¢ 19:14, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

MD-200 Length

Although you are right in many cases, the milepost on the MD-200 Bridge over US-29 is 16.0, and the signs on MD-200 are posted and have been for some time now, list US-29 as Exits 16A and 16B (can be seen when driving under MD-200 on US-29), and the milepost on the bridge over I-95 is 19.0 and the signs on this section of MD-200 are also posted and have been for some time now, and list I-95 as Exits 19A, 19B, and 19C. Therefore, it appears that this easternmost section of MD-200 has Exit Numbers that are pretty close to (if not at) their corresponding mile posts numbers. Dea41396 (talk) 22:37, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

Edit warring at M23 motorway

Hello. I am unprotecting M23 motorway per a request on my talk page so that an editor can continue to make constructive edits to this page. I am writing this to you specifically as you were involved in a recent edit war on that page (which is not related to the request on my talk page), and I'm notifying you that any edit warring whatsoever in the next 2 weeks will be met with a block. Please don't take this as a license to edit war in the future.

Please do not interpret this as me taking anyone's specific side, or as accusing any specific editor either. Magog the Ogre (talk) 18:13, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

Improving portal visibility on Wikipedia

• I think the idea of portal links being placed higher-up in articles would be functional toward increasing portal visibility, per your suggestions on the portal discussion page. Additionally, the addition of more categories to the portals, as you stated, is a good idea. I've started a new discussion with a specific focus upon increasing portal visibility on the portal discussion page here: Wikipedia talk: Portal - Ideas to increase portal visibility.  — Northamerica1000^(talk) 19:17, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

My second idea was a little more complicated, and was more an idea of combining the portal system with the categorization system so that articles are automatically assigned to one or more portals, and a link to that portal could then automatically get inserted (similar to inline coordinates, perhaps with universal symbols along the same concept as the coloured article classes (an option in user preferences to change "From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" to "A X-class article from Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia") or the GA/FA symbols that appear at the top right of an article of that quality). - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ ^τ _¢ 19:41, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

LibraryYurt

Hi, I am not affiliated with the Yurt Library. I chose the name only because my first edit involved the Yurt Library, and that was what came to my head. LibraryYurt (talk) 16:32, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

Makes sense. I thought this was initially a public computer in that Yurt. Ignore the conflict of interest part of the welcome message then :) - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ ^τ _¢ 16:58, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

Core documentation

Could you look at the core documentation and see if I missed anything? –Fredddie™ 21:20, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Ontario Highway 36

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I just passed the article. Good work. InTheAM 23:18, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Ontario Highway 12

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I reviewed the article, and it is pretty close. I put it on hold. InTheAM 20:08, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of File:Sheppard and Woodbine facing west, 1965.png

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A barnstar for you!

		The Good Article Barnstar
		Thanks Floydian for helping to promote Ontario Highway 402 to Good Article status. Please accept this little sign of appreciation and goodwill from me, because you deserve it. Keep it up, and give some a pat on the back today. --Sp33dyphil © • © 02:10, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

Thank you! It was also my 15th GA for Ontario highways. - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ ^τ _¢ 02:15, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

Ontario Highway 409 at GAN

Hi, Floydian. I've completed the review of the Highway 409 article, and have placed it on hold. --Starstriker7^(Talk) 19:26, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

Again, thanks for the really quick response. I believe I've answered the questions that you have raised on the review page, so let me know if you have any other concerns. --Starstriker7^(Talk) 08:24, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

Trolling anon

This anon user [1] has got to be the most annoying person that I've ever seen, never contributes to articles and only keeps pointing out reference violations. MonkeyKingBar (talk) 00:12, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

Ontario Highway 409 as a GA (and good luck baklava)

Hey, Floydian. I've passed the article as a GA, although you should still keep an eye out for the reference if you can. You did a great job with the article, and I hope that it is one of many to come. In any case, if you haven't tried baklava, you must. Here is a virtual one, as a token of good luck for your exams. :) Starstriker7(Talk) 00:24, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

Re: The Queensway

The redirect has been deleted and you can go ahead with the move. --GraemeL ^(talk) 19:11, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

GAN for Ontario Highway 406

Hi, I finally finished the review of Ontario Highway 406 and placed it on hold pending closure of a few minor issues. You can find the review here. –Grondemar 03:25, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for addressing my concerns. I have now passed your article as a Good Article. Congratulations! –Grondemar 17:22, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

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Assumption

You only use it twice, including the section header, so if you define it with the first use, the section header is fine as is. –Fredddie™ 12:54, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

School photos

Thanks, Floydian! I'll take a look and upload the photos! WhisperToMe (talk) 18:59, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

Images have been uploaded:

• File:CharbonnelCatholicSecondary.jpg
• File:ViamondeSchoolHQ.jpg
• File:TorontoCatholicSchoolBoardHQ.jpg
• File:CentreDeslauriers.jpg

They are used in articles on the English and French Wikipedias. I took the liberty of posting image descriptions in English and French for each image. After consideration, I decided that the author fields need to display both your flickr name and your Wikipedia name - the former for attribution reasons, the latter so people understand that you are on Wikipedia too :) Thank you, WhisperToMe (talk) 02:30, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

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GAN for Ontario Highway 400

Hi! I reviewed your Good Article Nomination of Ontario Highway 400 and placed it on hold pending resolution of a few issues. You can find the review here. –Grondemar 19:05, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for addressing my concerns, as well as pointing out my obvious in retrospect math error. Sigh. Anyway, I have now passed the review. Congratulations! –Grondemar 06:40, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

Thank you very much :) - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ ^τ _¢ 06:46, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

Hi Floydian. Congratulations on winning GA status for Ontario Highway 400. I notice that Reference No. 48 is a URL with square brackets but no title so it appears as nothing more than the square brackets. Many of the other references are bare URLs with no brackets and no title. I understand you have a tool for tidying up these references. Dolphin (t) 11:46, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

Indeed. I'll go take a look now (but just as an fyi, the reference formatting isn't a GA criteria, I just like to have them done by then... other users may decide to be stubborn for whatever reason). Cheers, ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ ^τ _¢ 15:06, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

Well, after two hours of work, one ref away from finishing, Firefox and its lovely tendency to autoupdate cause it to crash. It will be a long time before I make another attempt. - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ ^τ _¢

Thanks very much for all that. I acknowledge that formatting of references isn't part of the GA criteria but it certainly makes an article look so much more professional if readers can see some details about each source. Very best wishes. Dolphin (t) 04:20, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

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Your GA nomination of Ontario Highway 416

The article Ontario Highway 416 you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Ontario Highway 416 for comments about the article. Well done! There is a backlog of articles waiting for review, why not help out and review a nominated article yourself? Dolphin (t) 11:54, 25 December 2011 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!

	Merry Christmas
	Here's wishing you and yours safe travels, full gas tanks and good writing in the new year! Imzadi1979 (talk) 22:43, 25 December 2011 (UTC)

Talkback

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Road templates TUR-O and TUR-D

Hi! you modified the raod templates TUR-O and TUR-D so that no road sign color is visible. Eventhough you commented your reason I could not understand the difference to template "European route E" which shows still in green. Appreciate your explanaition. Cheers. CeeGee (talk) 07:56, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

I assume that you forgot to reply to me. What about the various road marker templates with different colors? Most of them are referenced in related articles within the text. If I can receive no satisfactory respond, I'm gonna revert your last modifications. CeeGee (talk) 15:35, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

My bad, I completely missed this. The issue here is WP:COLOR and WP:ACCESSIBILITY. By overriding the Wikipedia styling of links, its impossible to tell whether a link is a link, and whether its target is an existing article or redlink. All the other templates that do this need to be fixed as well (I only saw those two). Graphics should be used for the markers (keeping with MOS:FLAGICON)). Hope this helps clear things up. - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ ^τ _¢ 17:17, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

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Editing others talk page comments

Regarding this edit summary where you said "Minor and obvious spelling and grammar fixes to other's comments are permitted"; kindly note WP:TPO, which explicitly states:

It is not necessary to bring talk pages to publishing standards, so there is no need to correct typing/spelling errors, grammar, etc. It tends to irritate the users whose comments you are correcting. The basic rule—with some specific exceptions outlined below—is that you should not edit or delete the comments of other editors without their permission.

Please do not mislead other editors into believing the contrary.

While you are, of course, at liberty to invite others to correct your errors; the general principle is not to, and so it is quite correct to revert third-parties' corrections. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:55, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

Hmmm... Well in my 8 years experience, I've never received a complaint for fixing minor mistakes. I do it all the time, though I usually do it as I'm adding my reply. Consider this permission for editors to correct typos on my talk page posts insofar as I do not revert it. - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ ^τ _¢ 17:31, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

Jctint/core tracking

A discussion was started here regarding adding a tracking category to Jctint(/core) so we can find the articles where implementing miles←→km conversions would break the internets. I tried and failed to implement it in the core but the category started filling with every article. I think it has to do with the unit params filling in with nbsp when not called.

PS: every time you form a plural with an apostrophe, Jimbo considers putting ads on the wiki... –Fredddie™ 06:12, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

401 FAC

I don't see the 401 on the list of new Featured article candidates: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_article_candidates . Maybe that's why it's not getting any reviews?

If you need help with the article, I will do what I can. Congrats on getting it buffed to A-Class status! Haljackey (talk) 07:30, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

Y Done --Rschen7754 08:22, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

That would explain a lot :P Thanks guys - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ ^τ _¢ 15:29, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

No problem! I was wondering why the nomination sat unnoticed for that long. That would explain it. Haljackey (talk) 17:07, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

WP Toronto in the Signpost

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Road Coordinates

Hi, In relation to the vote (RfC?), going on which is for the usage of coordinates on roads, specifically highways. I only saw the page since an editor said there was a proposal to remove all coordinates from Wikipedia which struck me as somewhat over the top. That's wrong of course but oh well. Your proposal though, it doesn't mention any projects to improve upon the situation and uses arguments like "If they all can't have them, none of them should have them. It is unprofessional looking otherwise.". Think of it like "this article doesn't have a picture so no articles should". Exceptions exist and to make a ruling based on an exception seems absurd. An example would be bridges, not all bridges are applicable to all crossings hence why List of bridge types exists. The rest of your points are fairly reasonable given how annoying roads can be to map, but you didn't mention any other project or proposal to fix that. Is there any? I'm all for making coordinates easier to deal with but it seems over the top to drop the only solution currently because roads are a pain. Can QGIS be used to map out a road, putting the coordinates into GML/GPX then into Google Maps or is that OR? Just something to replace what is removed. Note, I have a problem with tone, what is a dry and semi-logical tone in rl becomes harsh and aggressive on the internet so if that's the case this time apologies and feel free to delete this. Chrissd21 (talk) 04:25, 18 January 2012 (UTC)

I know exceptions exist, but in this case the argument was presented because Pigsonthewing and Tagishsimon have been very to the letter with this issue over the past several months, and I didn't want any loopholes. I personally would like to have our road articles link to a geohack page to map out the road, as it is the fastest way to see it, where it is, where it goes, etc... but a coordinate pair in the title that sticks a point in Google Maps just doesn't cut it for linear features (and indeed, all linear features have had to settle for some subpar substitute because of the insistence on those single-point coordinates). QGIS can open shapefiles, which most governments publish for all sorts of data, including natural resource distribution, natural and political boundaries, contours, peaks, valleys, rivers, lakes, wetlands, roads, rails, cities, airports, canals, and on and on. In the case of roads, the road network shapefile can be downloaded and trimmed to only have the line for the subject road. Several map services also offer something like "Get directions", to guide people from A to B. At least in the case of roads, this would provide a great way of projecting various roads onto google maps.

The fact that Google Maps has a wikipedia layer means that some form of correspondence has happened between the two. I'm sure with some work an even better solution is possible... such as clicking on the route marker in the map bringing you to the wiki article (as a USRD member suggested to me on IRC). The point is that the current system doesn't work for roads, and it shouldn't be used as a bandage solution as that invites complacency. - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ ^τ _¢ 04:42, 18 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation, that makes a fair amount of sense. In which case pardon the intrusion. The editor who was crying words of doom left out those salient details, and you seem to have it all under control with some decent ideas as to a new system. A single point for a road is indeed silly, even more than getting rid of points in all categories. :P Good luck on pushing through a better system, too many bureaucrats here to make it easy. -.- Chrissd21 (talk) 14:15, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

The joys of democracy... or bureaucracy - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ ^τ _¢ 14:43, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

question about google maps

Floydian, you said "The fact that Google Maps has a wikipedia layer means that some form of correspondence has happened between the two. I'm sure with some work an even better solution is possible". Can you give me an example? I haven't noticed it when I have used google maps in the past. Thanks. stmrlbs|talk 16:34, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

Hey long time no see... I was actually going to contact you regarding that little mess of an RfC to see what your thoughts were. For me at least, I can open google maps and click the drop down arrow beneath "Maps" (usually it says "labels" when you first load the page), there is a Wikipedia layer. All of the W's that come up are based on title coordinates in our articles. - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ ^τ _¢ 17:35, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

Yes, it's been a while! I work with a 2 hour commute (1 hour each way) and have family things going on. I work with computers all day, so a lot of times I don't even open my laptop when I get home. Plus, to be honest, I was getting kind of disillusioned with Wikipedia.

But I saw the "blackout" and was very glad to see Wikipedia and Google fighting this. What a statement! I had written my representative about a month ago about this bill but didn't have much hope of it getting stopped with the industries they have lobbying for it. So, I was impressed with Wikipedia's action.

I thought I would take a look around, see what was going on, and decided to clean up my user space. Boy, am I rusty with using Wikipedia (as you can with all the corrections I'm doing). Then I saw your note about google maps and thought I would check it out. But, I still don't see what you are talking about. Can you give me an example? Also what RFC are you talking about? stmrlbs|talk 18:48, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

Hmmm... not sure if it doesn't show up over there for some reason. here's a screenshot of what I see. The RfC is at WT:HWY with some spillover to the talk page for the GeoCoordinates group. Beware, its a read. - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ ^τ _¢ 20:32, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

Ok, I see - it is an option that you request when you go to Google Maps. Cool! As for the RFC, yikes.. it will take me a while to read it! Will get back to you. Thanks, Floydian. stmrlbs|talk 00:20, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

Floydian, I read through most of the RFC. However, since I haven't been following all the past history, I'm basing my opinion just on my view as a reader looking at a road article. I don't see anything wrong with adding coordinates of important points of a road to a road article (endpoints, junctions). I think that with more and more people using GPS, google maps, etc. - coordinates are useful. I do agree that having a bunch of coordinates displayed in the page would be distracting. I think having a table at the bottom where the person could reference them if they wanted to would be better - I think that was in one of the proposals. I certainly wouldn't make it a requirement - I think it should be optional.

One place where coordinate information would be useful (whether displayed or linked to) is in the major intersection table where there aren't articles defined for the points – like Argyle in Kawartha_Lakes_Road_8. Right now, you click on Argyle and end up in Kawartha. So, is that really the intersection? I don't know. But an addition icon linking to coordinates would give the reader the ability to link to a map where they could see where the Argyle intersection was. It would give them a better visual image of where those points were in relation to the road as a whole even if there was no wikipedia article for this intersection at this time.. If the road project starts using shapemaps or something like that, a set of coordinates of the "important" points in the road would be useful to highlight those points in the road shapemap.

I see that you use google maps in the references. So, in a way, you are using coordinates to visually show parts of the road - but only if the person notices the references and realizes they are maps. It is nice what you did, but not obvious to the reader unless they follow the reference. As a viewer of road articles, it would be nice to have this facility be a more accessible part of the article. Even a standard for optionally including links to maps highlighting the different parts of the roads like your references do. don't know if that would be against wiki standards or not. stmrlbs|talk 06:18, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Never mind.. did some more reading, and I see that you can't directly link to a google directions map or a google map of a point - the googlemaps template creates an external reference, and the in house geo applications which you can link to can't give you what you need. So, they (Andy-mostly) are saying to display coordinates (which people will copy/paste and plug into an outside map service like google :)). So, everyone is seeing how they can get wikipedia to reinvent the wheel (do the same thing google maps does) in order to provide what the reader would be interested in, and still satisfy wikipedia standards. A quandry, for sure. Well, I still think a set of coordinates for a road would be handy to have - end points, junctions, outermost boundary points (to determine display map size and zoom), any point of interest in the road for which there is no wiki article. I think it should just be kept in a table at the bottom so that if people want to see it, they can. But mostly for the purpose of having them in the future for when you do have the ability to pop up a decent map of whatever you are trying to see. Better to add it now, then later. my 2 cents - having not followed all the nuances of this discussion. stmrlbs|talk 17:34, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

I think the geolocating info is certainly useful to have, and I make use of it myself when its available. But, it raises a bunch of questions that weigh readability/clutter against bells and whistles functionality (ie do we need to provide access to the readers favourite map service, or just any accurate map service?) I've come up with what I think is a workable solution on Ontario Highway 77, which avoids a bunch of DMS coordinate but still gives the ability to lookup any junction on the highway. Ideally I'd like to have a link in the infobox that takes you to geohack, where you could select your favourite mapping service, and the route shows up as a "Get Directions..." line or highlighted in some other manner. - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ ^τ _¢ 17:51, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

I like that. What you did enables the user to at least be able to pop up a map with 2 clicks if they don't get overwhelmed by the vast number of choices on the geomap page. But the direct link to google maps is right there on top of the geomap page - people will figure it out. I would put add a column before the Notes column, with the title "Geomaps" (or whatever), and put the icons there. That way, if the reader doesn't know what the icons mean, at least they will see "maps" in the title and probably click the icon.

It is too bad you can't input a point set which would do the same thing, only go to google maps with the directions request. Which I think is what you were saying in the RFC. stmrlbs|talk 18:13, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Township Maps

For your future reference here is a link to old County, Township and Town maps throughout most of southern Ontario. It is part of the Canadian County Atlas Digital Project at McGill University. You may find it useful when conducting historical and geographic investigations in those areas. Secondarywaltz (talk) 17:04, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

That is a wonderful source that I've had to reference when going through the MTO annual reports from the 50s, when highways were assumed on a township by township basis. I only wish there was a similar resource for the northern Ontario districts. - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ ^τ _¢ 17:19, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

28 January 2012

I found that you oppose to the addition of the genre "nu metal" in the System of a Down article, before continue with the discussion in the talk page i want to know some things: How works that reference "A" discounts reference "B" thing; and which wikipedia policy states that allmusic genre tags aren't reliables, i want to learn more. Nicrorus (talk) 03:47, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

What I meant is a few of the reviews of System of a Down make a specific point to say "some people label them as Nu-Metal, but they aren't even close", and so when several editors (including myself) had a discussion a few years back (you can see it in Archive 7 on the talk page), we gathered as many sources as we could and tallied the number of times each genre was mentioned. Each review that discounted a certain genre subtracted 1 from the total of that genre. In the end, we took the four genres with the most refs that adequately showed the full range of styles. I suppose the guidelines that best covers this is WP:UNDUEWEIGHT.

As for allmusic, I can't find it anymore, but there have been lots of discussions at both the reliable sources noticeboard and the talk page for the Music WikiProject and its considered reliable for biographies, but rather liberal with its use of non-existent genre combinations. Cheers - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ ^τ _¢ 04:56, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

I see, i just don't thought that the "Discount thing" were that way, you know, if we apply that criteria to more bands, the nu metal genre would practically dissapear from wikipedia's infoboxes, in example Korn and Slipknot themselves disagrees with the label, and for each reference calling the music of a band such Deftones or Linkin Park nu metal, there are like six or more claiming that they don't, and even that they never were, what do you think, we shall apply the criteria to the rest of the bands or not? Nicrorus (talk) 05:37, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

I think that just like System of a Down, they should have a discussion to decide on the genres for the infobox. The genres shouldn't be changed without these discussions since it leads to edit warring and opinion bashing. - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ ^τ _¢ 06:11, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the info, can i count with you in the future as a backup and to advise another editors about the policies and consensus in the future? you are an experienced user who have done it and succeeded in the past, so your opinion is very valuable. Nicrorus (talk) 02:18, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

Of course! I'm happy to help out wherever I can. Cheers, ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ ^τ _¢ 02:22, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

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wikiproject highways search - project and subprojects

Floydian, just to let you know, I created a search that will search the Wikiproject Highways and subprojects - main and talk pages here: User:Stmrlbs/search/roads I used it to see where other discussions of coordinates were (and just because I sometimes look at this project). It is easier than searching all of wikipedia or searching each page separately. click on the SHOW below the search to see what areas I search. stmrlbs|talk 18:24, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Templates and stuff

You might like to look at Template:Streets in Montreal. I also created Colborne Street as a disambiguation page. Open it up and you'll see that it was also the former name of part of Peel Street. Peter Horn User talk 16:38, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

In cases like that, we'd move Colborne Street to the disambiguation page and have a hatnote on Colborne Street pointing to Peel Street (since the dab only has two entries, and one of those two doesn't use the name Colborne Street today). The streets in Montreal template is a navbox, so it's meant to go at the bottom of articles. The Toronto street articles were all merged together (they were about 45 separate stubs articles before; now that information is available in 3 articles), and so I created those templates as table of contents. Montreal streets seem to be in a bit better shape than Toronto's were, but many of them could also be merged since you can only generally find information on the origins of the name and the landmarks on the street. Cheers - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ ^τ _¢ 16:56, 30 January 2012 (UTC)