User talk:Fluffernutter

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I'm tired. I'm tired of feeling like the community runs on high-octane rage and like every policy or content discussion is all that stands between us and the end of the world. I'm sick of seeing people talk to each other as if they're not speaking to another human being, because typing words on a page makes it so much easier to say things you wouldn't say to someone's face. I'm exhausted from trying, in a tiny way in a few tiny corners, to make things suck here a smidgen less, and mostly feeling like I've failed, when I can muster the energy to try at all.

This isn't a retirement message. I'm still here, and I'm still editing in my usual sporadic fashion. But I'm tired of the bad, and I want to hear the good. I would so, so appreciate it if anyone who stumbles across this message could leave me a note telling me what you love about Wikipedia. What you do or the community does that doesn't feel draining. What's gone right lately, for you and your work here, or for the project(s) themselves. Tell me something good that came out of your time here. Remind me why we put our energy into this thing in the first place. Show me somewhere on-wiki where people completely failed to be terrible to each other even though the chance was there. Show me editors being valued without being showered in the shiny baubles that make this feel a game of trinket collection instead of a collaboration.

Remind me of the good, guys. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 19:24, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

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Love Wikipedia, BUT Ferguson, MO, OUT of control[edit]

I very much like being on Wikipedia, however, the Ferguson MO page is starting to again attract really degrading remarks from IP edits...maybe locking it??Coal town guy (talk) 16:21, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

@Coal town guy: I just took a look at the recent history after reverting an IP there, and I actually thought things seem to be surprisingly under control - a little bit of vandalism, but not a flood or anything. Is there something in particular going on there that you're concerned about? I'll take another look if so. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 16:25, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
Once the name of the officer of the conflict is made public, it might be a preventative measure to lock the thing given the near daily racial slurs that happen now. JUST a thought, appreciate your dedicationCoal town guy (talk) 16:27, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
@Coal town guy: Yeah things have the potential to get out of control. I'm not going to protect the page preemptively at the moment, because I still have a little hope that the protection that was put in place yesterday will have made most of the vandals lose interest, but I'll keep an eye on it (and I suspect many other admins will too) and won't hesitate to act if it becomes necessary again. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 16:32, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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For your work to protect Shooting of Michael Brown and its talk page, thank you very much! Bearian (talk) 21:41, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
Thank you kindly, Bearian! I wonder at my - and your! - sanity for trying to keep order in what's likely to be a growing blow-up, but if none of us do it, well, no one does it :) A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 22:38, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

13:50:10, 15 August 2014 review of submission by Legal2000[edit]

Thanks for your reply. Base on your information I reviewed the draft and since I footnoted the material relied on for factual statements in the article, I am having a problem locating material that goes beyond “fair use” and thus violates copyright law. Since I wish to submit a new draft, I would appreciate the benefit of your advice as to the specific language which constitutes a violation.

Thanks for your help.

Legal2000 (talk) 13:50, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

Hi Legal2000. Please note that Wikipedia's internal copyright policy is different than general copyright law out in the world; the best way to summarize Wikipedia's policy is probably "use your own words, and directly quote and cite whatever small snippets you cannot avoid using from sources". So if you plan to start a new draft of the article, you should aim to write your own, original prose. It can be based on the ideas in the sources, and those should be cited when it is, but it shouldn't use direct text from those sources except if that specific text is important to the topic in those specific words. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 22:23, 15 August 2014 (UTC)


Hi i am new to wikipedia and apologize if i am doing this wrong. I have proposed a deletion of an article you created: is the link I believe. I feel that information about tetrindole would be best served as a bullet point on the page located at until there is more information provided, and my justification for this is that it does not carry much information beyond it's name. After comparing it to the other tetracylcic antidepressants listed at

I am using — Preceding unsigned comment added by TrimTheFat (talkcontribs) 20:46, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

Hello TrimTheFat. It strikes me as odd that your first and, to date, only involvement in Wikipedia was to locate two very different articles I wrote and attempt to have them deleted, but I'm assuming that you landed on my userpage somehow and found them that way. To answer the question in your edit summary here, anyone can remove a proposed deletion template, and once it's removed, the article may not be tagged using that template again. If you feel the article should be deleted at this point, you will need to pursue that through the Articles for Deletion process, which involves a community discussion of the article's suitability. It sounds like you're not particularly familiar with our deletion processes in general, so I would suggest you read through those policies before carrying on. For example, you will find that an article's length is generally not considered a suitable reason to nominate it for that process.

As far as whether the article "deserves" to exist or not, that would be for the community to decide in the Articles for Deletion discussion if you start one; I created the article because it was the subject of a very high number of incoming redlinks, which indicated it was a "most wanted" article. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 22:23, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

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GOCE July drive and August blitz[edit]

Guild of Copy Editors July 2014 backlog elimination drive wrap-up
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