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Re: WSC RFA

Cool, glad to see you took my comment into consideration. Regards, –Juliancolton ^{Tropical Cyclone} 04:41, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Yeah i did. I thought about it for a couple of hours and felt that I actually could endorse WSC even though I disagreed with s single statement. That's the best thing about WP, we can say something, receive a differing viewpoint, reconsider and then recast our viewpoint. It's the most democratic process I've ever been involved in (and as a European Union citizen, that's saying something, really it is!). I think Wikipedia is actually a model for real-life, and something all of our governments should be able to learn from!!! (Yes, I'm a socialist) fr33kman -s- 05:48, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Simple English Wikipedia

Thanks for the welcome and helping me out through the site. Have a good night! --Versus22 _talk 09:05, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

You're very welcome. seWP is a place where an individual editor can really make a big difference to the project. fr33kman -s- 17:01, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Alternative counter

I noticed on User talk:Interiot that you were experiencing the same problems with the edit counter as I was. I've located another edit counter that you may want to try, if you haven't already found it. Best regards --Eustress (talk) 03:52, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for that. Unfortunately it doesn't provide any newer results than 7wks ago for simple.wikipedia.org. I'll just have to wait I guess. Cheers fr33kman -s- 15:06, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the support!

Hey Fr33kman - thanks for the really enthusiastic support in my RfA! I don't even 100% respect myself! Happy and joyous editing to you and your kin. FlyingToaster 05:08, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Seen too much good from you not to give 100% support. Perhaps other people have a better understanding of ourselves that we do; sometimes. You have always kept the faith as far as I can see! Good luck!! fr33kman -s- 05:11, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the support redux!

Hey Fr33kman - thanks for your your message regarding my failed RfA. I really appreciated your very kind support, and will definitely be running again! Happy editing to you. FlyingToaster 23:33, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

You're welcome! You can always come over to simple: if you want a break :) fr33kman -s- 23:37, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Welcome thanks

Hi Fr33kman, thanks for the welcome here and on my simple userpage. XLerate (talk) 21:53, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Hi

Just thought I'd give you a hello here, my Mother-Wikipedia. --♪♫The New Mikemoral^talk_contribs 05:58, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Jeremy Brett

Just was about to reply when I saw your second message. :) A related question, I saw your edits to the article, do you have any source for the birth year to be 1935? All the sources state 1933. Garion96 (talk) 19:34, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Yes, many: [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], [6] (no longer contains info), [7] (link now broken), [8], [9], [10]. However, there may be some discenting opinion on this; [11] has an answer to FAQ that says that the 1935 date is wrong and it's 1933; but it's hardly a WP:RS. fr33kman -s- 19:45, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

These sources are copied from a paper I wrote for university a few years ago. fr33kman -s- 19:52, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Add more for extra WP:V; [12], [13], [14] (not RS), [15] (this is the site that lists 1933 above and contradicts itself in this link) fr33kman -s- 19:58, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

I just quickly browsed all the external link bio's in the article and they all say 1933. I guess the NY times can be considered the most reliable of these (not always though), that is one saying 1935, and should be used for now. Although personally, from looking at that FAQ and other sources I think 1933 might actually be the correct year. Garion96 (talk) 20:11, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

It's contentious for sure; I think I've shown it to be 1935 however. The reliable sources I've found all say 1935. Shall we keep it as 1935 and put a comment on the talk page that there is some disagreement about this in the sources? fr33kman -s- 20:13, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Works for me. Also, good luck with the investigation. :) Garion96 (talk) 22:17, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Color of the day (police)

"While some use of the color of the day system include; recognition so a uniformed officer will not "hassle" a transient person who is actually a police officer acting as a victim decoy"

What did you mean by this statement? Are there other uses of the color of the day system besides the one given? Toliar (talk) 00:04, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

The system is two fold; 1) it is so that uniformed officers don't shoot undercover officers who draw their guns on the street so that the uniformed cop won't think the undercover cop is a criminal; and 2) so that a uniformed officer who sees a homeless person (who is actually an undercover police decoy victim) won't hassle them to move along. fr33kman -s- 00:48, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Third opinon

Hello, I noticed that you are one of many user who take part in third opinions here on wikipedia i was wondering if you can assist me with the following it would be greatly appreciated.Wikipedia:Third_opinion It is the fourth article,Thank you fror your time and help

Take Care, Staffwaterboy ^{Critique Me Guestbook Hate Comments} 23:50, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

I have placed my opinion as per Talk:Indian_Point_Energy_Center#Third_opinion Staffwaterboy ^{Critique Me Guestbook Hate Comments} 17:37, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Just checking up on the issue..

Cheers,

Staffwaterboy ^{Critique Me Guestbook Hate Comments} 22:39, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

What happened?

What happened to seWP's DYK? --The New Mikemoral ♪♫ 20:04, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Same thing that happens to lots of things on seWP; it was closed. Personally I'd like to see it reopened. I was just getting into it and would be willing to take over its running. Perhaps you'd like to help also? seWPs a weird place at times. :) fr33kman -s- 02:16, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

That's really terrible. It was just getting stated like the Typo Team :) (20 members). Grr... It should be revived... --The New Mikemoral ♪♫ 01:54, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Simple Wikipedia

Hey, I'd be willing to help out over there and create some American football article, but I have some questions:

1. Are there templates? And if so are they templates or something else, and if no can there be?
2. Are there categories? And if so are they called something else, and if no can there be?
3. Are there infoboxes? And if so are they called something else, and if no can there be?
4. Are there WikiProjects? And if so are they called something else, and if no can there be?

--Giants27 ^T/C 20:27, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Hi! You are more than welcome to join Simple English Wikipedia. I'd suggest that you introduce yourself at Simple talk. You can make templates, categories etc as you need them. Please check my article simple:User:Fr33kman/copyenwp about how to import articles from one wikipedia to another. Hope to see you around and feel free to ask any questions you need to. We are a small community and a friendly one. Everyone literally knows everyone else! :) All the best! fr33kman -s- 04:13, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, when I get a chance I'll start bringing some American football stuff, for now as you can see from contribs over there, I've started more with the roster templates. But hope to branch out soon. Thanks for the help!--Giants27 ^T/C 19:01, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Re: Steve

Blame our good friend autoreload. :) — neuro^{(talk)(review)} 07:48, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Mears

Hi.

My intent was to move World of Survival (TV series) to Ray_Mears'_World_of_Survival.

This wouldn't be possible, as World of Survival (TV series) was not blank.

I thought that, by first moving World of Survival (TV series) to Move World of Survival (TV series) (old redirect), the original move would be possible, as WP:MOVE states that "If the new title already exists but is just a redirect to the old title, with just one line in the page history, the creation of the redirect, then you can rename the page."

When that failed, I thought it was because I'd edited the redirect (to blank it), and therefore by moving it to a 'junk' page in my user space, I'd be able to perform the original intended move, and scrap the old redirects after wards.

Best intentions causing a bit of a mess, I'm afraid. My intent was to avoid bothering an administrator with something I thought I could do myself. At least I'll know better next time. Apologies for any confusion caused.

Hope this makes sense :-s

P.S. Also, sorry for the short delay in my response; whilst typing this, my internet connection failed, and I was unable to reconnect until now. When it rains, it pours.

 Chzz  ►  02:40, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

We're all at the mercy of the ISP gods :) Thanks for explaining. I've taken care of the issue via another route now, so no worries. I'm trying to list all Ray's books and TV stuff but do it properly (unlike how it was before). Cheers! :) fr33kman -s- 02:43, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Jeremy Brett birth date

Hi. I'm new here, so I may not be doing everything exactly as I should. But in looking up the entry for Jeremy Brett, I see you're using 1935 as the date of birth, and I'm writing to ask you to change it. The date should be 1933.

Yes, I can see from the Discussion page that there was a lot of uncertainty about it. But obviously, at some point he thought his career would benefit if he shaved a couple of years off. And a lot of writers, newspaper and otherwise, got caught in that bad info. Even Mel Gussow of the NY Times made the mistake.

Here's the entry for Burke's Landed Gentry, 19th edition (Brett is of course listed under his father, Col. Henry William Huggins, as one of his "issue"):

4a •Peter Jeremy William (actor, Jeremy Brett); born 3 Nov 1933; educated Eton; married 24 May, 1958 (divorce 1962), Anna, only daughter of Raymond H. Massey, of Honey Hill Road, Wilton, Conn., USA, and Mrs. William Dwight Whitney, of 2, The Grove, Highgate Village, N.6, and has issue, •David Raymond William; born 14 Aug 1959.

Will that suffice to put the birth date issue to rest? I hope so.

Please, if you have any questions, get back to me.

Thanks for your attention. IonaOfMyHeart IonaOfMyHeart (talk) 01:25, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Hi, don't worry that you are new, your opinion is as valid as the oldest member here. The above, is your opinion; it is not fact. We rely on things that can be verified to be the case, not those that we think or feel are so. If you have actual "proof" that is backed up by multiple reliable sources then be bold and update the article. Just be prepared to have your edit reverted if other people disageee. As you pointed out, there is controversy in Mr Brett's birthdate, but we need proof that can't be disputed if we are going to change his birth-date. Thanks! fr33kman -s- 02:08, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

GA Sweeps invitation

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We are always looking for new members to assist with the remaining articles, so if you are interested or know of anybody that can assist, please visit the GA sweeps page. In addition, for every member that reviews 100 articles or has a significant impact on the process, s/he will get an award when they reach that threshold. If only 14 editors achieve this feat starting now, we would be done with Sweeps! Of course, having more people reviewing less articles would be better for all involved, so please consider asking others to help out. Feel free to stop by and only review a few articles, something's better than nothing! Take a look at the list, and see what articles interest you. Let's work to complete Sweeps so that efforts can be fully focused on the backlog at GAN. If you have any questions about the process, reviewing, or need help with a particular article, please contact me or OhanaUnited and we'll be happy to help. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 08:13, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Wrestling Articles

Hello, I am more than willing to work on the wrestling articles on Simple English Wikipedia. It will give me an opportunity to contribute without the headache and drama of the regular Wikipedia's wrestling articles. I have already started by expanding/creating 5 articles on WWE's pay per view events. Please look over them and give me feedback if possible. I'm doing my best to use "simple English" but I'm not sure if I'm being "simple" enough, if you know what I mean. Anyway, thanks for the opportunity and I look forward to putting more hard work into future articles. Wwehurricane1 (talk) 09:22, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

By the way, this is me: http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Thehurricane13 Wwehurricane1 (talk) 09:23, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

RE: Colour of the Day

Hi there. I have added the project tag to the article talk page, which puts it under the article's remit. Regards, SGGH ^ping! 23:46, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

my block

Hello, it's me! You mentioned at simpleWP that if I continued to edit my talk page, I could face a longer block and a longer block. From WP:AAB (policy), A usual block prevents users from editing all pages except their user talk page. Users are allowed to retain editing access to their user talk page, in order to have a chance for appeal, and so that they are not shut out completely and are able to participate at least to some degree in Wikipedia, while the block is active. So what was your possible rational for the extension of the block? I know that simple is not enWP, but we do use some of their policies. Griffinofwales (talk) 03:49, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

It's up to the blocking admins discretion. I could have simply blocked you for 1 week, 1 month, 6 months, indef the first time around. Lot's of people wanted you blocked for indef, but I don't agree with them and feel you can edit well on simplewiki. If you read simple:WP:BLOCK you will see that admins have wide discretion in who they block, why they block and for how long. You getting into contention on your talk page on simplewiki is really not helping your case. You have to realize that wikipedia is not all down to the exact wording of a guideline or a policy page. Admins can use their own discretion in much of what they do. I'd like to see you calm down a bit, and to accept the offer of mentoring and then to actually listen to the mentor and grow as a great editor. You have the possibility to become a very fine editor on simplewiki. fr33kman ^-simpleWP- 04:38, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

I have taken most of the advice (I no longer bother admins), and I forgot about 3RR in this case. I don't see how you could have blocked me indef for edit warring, especially since its the first block. This is a question that nobody answered at simple: Was I right in the closure? Besides the edit warring, was BG7 allowed to close the RfD? IMO I am improving, and have set a goal (which since the AN incident I have met) not to bother admins over actions they have made or make. I don't see why a mentor will help me. Everything I need to know has already been told to me, I just haven't listened. Thanks for listening, this is why you're in the cabal. Griffinofwales2 (talk) 16:41, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

• Yes you are improving, and I (for one) would not like to see you blocked indef. As to how an admin can block a user and for what period, admins have wide latitude in the use of the block. The policy page says that admins can block for many reasons: it does not outline every reason, nor could it. That is why it is left up to the individual admin to decide. An admin does not actually even have to check with the community to ban a user: they can do so on their own initiative, ban proposals are generally held either by non-admins or admins purely as a courtesy. One of the more common reasons for blocks (other than vandalism) is "disruption" of the project. The meaning of that word is left up to the individual admin.
• As to whether or not non-admins can close RfDs, yes they can. You should check out WP:NAC here on enwiki for a must used example. I personally do not agree with it, and I think that if simplewiki wants to continue with it the we should set up a similar policy to WP:NAC over there.
• Perhaps you don't feel you want a mentor and that's fine. Listen to the advice given then and if you have any questions about stuff over there, email me and I'd be happy to answer. BTW: I'm not in any cadal, I don't beleive them and I always do what I think is right. fr33kman ^-simpleWP- 23:26, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

The RfDs need to be fixed. Only admins are allowed to close them, and both of them were closed by non-admins (Javert & MC08). Griffinofwales2 (talk) 18:30, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

• The RfDs are fine: non admins can close them unless they need an admin to perform an action (ie: delete something). I will be proposing strict guidelines in the near future. fr33kman ^-simpleWP- 23:26, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

I know about WP:NAC here, but simple:WP:RFD didn't mention it anywhere, so I thought that it was an enWP rule and not at simple. Proof of your cabal membership is here. Thanks for helping me out at simpleWP. See you in 24 hours (approximate) at simpleWP (unless I'm blocked/banned before then). Griffinofwales (talk) 23:36, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Oh, you mean MEDCAB! Yeah, I admit to that, it's the only cabal I'd admit to. I'm not a fan of the other types of cabal, you know the ones that are supposed to conspire with each other in secret ;) Yeah, as i've said I don't really agree with NAC on simplewiki, but a few admins have told others there that they can do them. The reason it exists on enwiki is because it helps clear the backlog of RfDs. We don't have a backlog on simplewiki so I personally don't think non-admins should close them. Looking forwards to seeing you in 24 hours! Hope you are keeping yourself busy in the mean time! :-) Take care Griffin! fr33kman ^-simpleWP- 23:45, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

I'm doing what I did before I discovered simpleWP, Huggle! But it gets boring after 2-3 hours. Griffinofwales (talk) 23:53, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, Huggle does get kinda boring after a while. I can't believe people want to use it on simplewiki, talk about BORING! Listen Griffin, if you want to go back on simplewiki and promise to edit the mainspace (which you do a good job of) and lay low and keep calm in the WP namespace, I'd be willing to lift the block right now. How 'bout it? fr33kman ^-simpleWP- 00:08, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

I personally would not do that, simply because other admins were going to block him as well. It's in his best interest to just wait the further day. -DJSasso (talk) 00:31, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

I tend to agree, but since it was my block, it's mine to undo. My point in the offer was to get him to agree to chill out a bit: the offer of a carrot, if you will. :D fr33kman ^-simpleWP- 00:36, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Yup, it certainly is yours to undo. But I am saying its also the communities to reinstate after you do. It would be less drama and less heat on him if he waited. -DJSasso (talk) 00:44, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Meah, I do agree. I just wanted to get him to relax a bit, and felt the offer of a carrot would be useful. FYI: Another admin would have to have a new reason to block, otherwise it'd be wrong to reinstate my block if I undid it. Either way; we'll wait the full 48 hours. I'll see you on IRC soon. :) (PS: It's weird talking to you on enwiki, even weirder seeing you admin highlighted and me not :P )fr33kman ^-simpleWP- 00:51, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Please continue this conversation at simple. Regards, Microchip08

<-Admins at simpleWP already have a reason to block me, disruption. Thanks for the carrot, but as Djsasso pointed out, it would create more problems than it would solve. FYI, MC08, the reason this conversation is not at simpleWP is because I am blocked there. Please read the blocked section of my talk page for information on the other reasons for why I am not there currently. Griffinofwales (talk) 01:46, 15 August 2009 (UTC) How do I find out which IPs the toolserver bots use? Nobody wants to answer the question at simple. Griffinofwales (talk) 13:09, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

My DJ career posted is being deleted, why?

I was wondering why you are going to delete my page. Did I violate something in here? Everything is true to my best of my ability. If there is something you can do to help me, that would be great. This is my first time posting on Wiki. What can I do to make my DJ career story visible to others? —Preceding unsigned comment added by DJ JimmyJamz (talk • contribs) 18:58, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

It is not notable. Griffinofwales (talk) 19:25, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

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Possible move of the William Beebe rape section to new bio article

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GOCE elections

Greetings from the Guild of Copy Editors Elections are currently underway for our inaugural Guild coordinators. The voting period will run for 14 days: 00:01 UTC, Friday 1 December – 23:59 UTC, Tuesday 14 December. All GOCE members in good standing, as well as past participants of any of the Guild's Backlog elimination drives, are eligible to vote. There are six candidates vying for four positions. The candidate with the highest number of votes will become the Lead Coordinator, therefore, your vote really matters! Cast your vote today.

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November 2010 Backlog Elimination Drive Conclusion

Greetings from the Guild of Copy Editors Backlog Elimination Drive! We have reached the end of our fourth backlog elimination drive. Thanks to all who participated. Stats GOCE November 2010 backlog elimination drive graphs 58 people signed up for this drive. Of these, 48 people participated in the drive. Although we did not eliminate the months we planned to (January, February, and March 2009; and August, September, and October 2010), we did reduce the backlog by 627 articles (11.2%), which was over our goal of 10%. 49 awards will go out to 33 of 48 participants. Check out the complete list of barnstar winners here. Barnstars If you copy edited at least 4,000 words, you qualify for a barnstar. If you participated in the September 2010 backlog elimination drive, you may have earned roll-over words (more details can be found here). These roll-over words count as credit towards earning barnstars, except for leaderboard awards. We will be delivering these barnstars within the next couple of weeks. Our next drive is scheduled for January 2011. In the meantime, please consider helping out at the Wikification drive or any of the other places where help with backlogs is needed. Thank you for participating in the last 2010 backlog elimination drive! We look forward to seeing you in January! Your drive coordinators –The UtahraptorTalk to me/Contributions, S Masters (talk), and Diannaa (Talk)

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GOCE Year-end Report

Season's Greetings from the Guild of Copy Editors We have reached the end of the year, and what a year it has been! The Guild of Copy Editors was full of activity, and we achieved numerous important milestones in 2010. Read all about these in the Guild's 2010 Year-End Report. Highlights Membership grows to 503 editors 2,589 articles removed through four Backlog elimination drives Our encounter with Jimbo Wales Guild home pages reorganized and redesigned Report on our inaugural elections Guild Plans for 2011 New barnstars introduced Requests page improved Sign up for the January 2011 Backlog elimination drive! Get your copy of the Guild's 2010 Year-End Report here On behalf of the Guild, we take this opportunity to wish you Season's Greetings and Happy New Year. See you in 2011! – Your Coordinators: S Masters (lead), Diannaa, The Utahraptor, and Tea with toast.

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GOCE drive news

Guild of Copy Editors January 2011 backlog elimination drive Greetings from the Guild of Copy Editors January 2011 Backlog elimination drive! The drive is halfway over, so here are some mid-drive stats. Participation GOCE January 2011 backlog elimination drive progress graphs So far, 43 people have signed up for this drive. Of these, 25 have participated. If you signed up for the drive but haven't participated yet, it's not too late! Try to copy edit at least a few articles. Remember, if you have rollover words from the last drive, you will lose them if you do not participate in this drive. If you haven't signed up for the drive yet, you can sign up now. Progress report We have eliminated two months from the backlog – January and February 2009. One of our goals is to eliminate as many months as possible from the 2009 backlog. Please help us reduce the size of this part of the backlog if you haven't already. Another goal is to reduce the entire backlog by 10%, or by 515 articles. Currently, we have eliminated 375 articles from the queue, so if each participant copy edits four more articles, we will reach that goal. Thank you for participating in the January 2011 drive. We anticipate it will be another big success! Your drive coordinators –S Masters (talk), Diannaa (Talk), The UtahraptorTalk to me, and Tea with toast (Talk)

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GOCE January Backlog elimination drive conclusion

Guild of Copy Editors January 2011 Backlog elimination drive Greetings from the January 2011 Backlog elimination drive! We have reached the end of the month and the end of another successful drive; thanks to all who participated. Statistics 54 people signed up for the year's first Backlog elimination drive. Of these, 40 participated. One of our goals was to reduce the size of the backlog by at least 10%. We managed to reduce the backlog by 633 articles, or about 12%. Another goal was to eliminate as many 2009 months as possible from the queue. We eliminated January, February, March, and April—4 out of 12 months is not bad! In addition, we eliminated 37% of all remaining 2009 articles from the queue. Chaosdruid copy edited Kutch Gurjar Kashtriya for 32,711 words, which is the largest single article completed in one of our drives so far. This article counts as six 5000-K articles, and Chaosdruid wins the "most 5000-K articles" leaderboard category. Way to go! A complete list of individual results is here. Barnstars If you copy edited at least 4,000 words, you qualify for a barnstar. If you participated in the November 2010 Backlog elimination drive, you may have earned roll-over words (more details can be found here). These roll-over words count as credit towards earning barnstars, except for leaderboard awards. We will be delivering the barnstars within the next couple of weeks. Thank you for participating in this year's first Backlog elimination drive! We hope to see you in March. Your drive coordinators –S Masters (talk), Diannaa (talk), The Utahraptor (talk), and Tea with toast (talk)

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March 2011 GAN backlog elimination drive a week away

WikiProject Good Articles will be running a GAN backlog elimination drive for the entire month of March. The goal of this drive is to bring the number of outstanding Good Article nominations down to below 50. This will help editors in restoring confidence to the GAN process as well as actively improving, polishing, and rewarding good content. If you are interested in participating in the drive, please place your name here. Awards will be given out to those who review certain numbers of GANs as well as to those who review the most. On behalf of my co-coordinator Wizardman, we hope we can see you in March. MuZemike delivered by MuZebot 00:23, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Barnstar

	The Working Man's Barnstar
	For your work on the strategy wiki Philippe Beaudette, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 06:42, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

Thank you very much Phillipe! fr33kman ^-simpleWP- 07:03, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

GOCE drive newsletter

The Guild of Copy Editors – May 2011 Backlog Elimination Drive The Guild of Copy Editors invite you to participate in the May 2011 Backlog Elimination Drive, a month-long effort to reduce the backlog of articles that require copy-editing. The drive began on May 1 at 00:00 (UTC) and will end on May 31 at 23:59 (UTC). The goals of this backlog elimination drive are to eliminate as many articles as possible from the 2009 backlog and to reduce the overall backlog by 15%. ! NEW ! In an effort to encourage the final elimination of all 2009 articles, we will be tracking them on the leaderboard for this drive. Awards and barnstars A range of barnstars will be awarded to active participants. Some are exclusive to GOCE drives. More information on awards can be found on the main drive page. We look forward to meeting you on the drive! Your GOCE coordinators: SMasters, Diannaa, Tea with toast, Chaosdruid, and Torchiest

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AN discussion

You may be interested in this AN discussion. Eagles 24/7 (C) 06:09, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

GOCE elections

Greetings from the Guild of Copy Editors Elections are currently underway for our Guild coordinators. The voting period will run for 14 days and ends on June 30, 23:59 UTC. All GOCE members in good standing, as well as past participants of any of the Guild's Backlog elimination drives, are eligible to vote. The candidate with the highest number of votes will become the Lead Coordinator, therefore, your vote really matters! There is also a referendum to appoint a Coordinator Emeritus. Cast your vote today.

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Rollback

Yup, I thought about that after I did it. It was not however a good faith edit, it started with a revert without a word by the fellow. I had stated on the talk page why it was changed on how. He has not bothered to post there whatsoever nor replied to my posts on his page. One liners do not a concesus make. That being said I am not going to get in an edit war.Tirronan (talk) 04:35, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

User_talk:Brisbanegirlsgrammar

G'day Fr33kman,

Just in regards to your tagging the above named user's name...

I don't think that the name is promotional. Schools don't/can't get much publicity from whomever is editing on wikipedia.

Also, to be honest, I'd much prefer to know that whomever I'm talking to has a clear WP:COI so that I (we) can monitor their edits appropriately.

Your thoughts? -danjel (talk to me) 07:39, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

Perhaps shared account might be a better description? fr33kman 20:26, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kay Kristin Boutilier

Hi, your edit on the AfD has an edit summary delete but you forgot to mention this in the discussion. Could you please make it up to a clear statement? Thanks, --Ben Ben (talk) 17:13, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Y Done I've placed delete upon it. I'm an admin elsewhere and a steward and I personally dislike the voting templates so tend to just write what I think and read everyone's reasons and ignore the "counting" aspect of closing AFDs. I should, however, have made this case much clearer. Thanks for bringing it up! :) fr33kman 20:30, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

GOCE drive invitation

Greetings from the Guild of Copy Editors The latest GOCE backlog elimination drive is under way! It began on 1 July and so far 18 people have signed up to help us reduce the number of articles in need of copyediting. This drive will give a 50% bonus for articles edited from the GOCE requests page. Although we have cleared the backlog of 2009 articles there are still 3,935 articles needing copyediting and any help, no matter how small, would be appreciated. We are appealing to all GOCE members, and any other editors who wish to participate, to come and help us reduce the number of articles needing copyediting, as well as the backlog of requests. If you have not signed up yet, why not take a look at the current signatories and help us by adding your name and copyediting a few articles. Barnstars will be given to anyone who edits more than 4,000 words, with special awards for the top 5 in the categories: "Number of articles", "Number of words", and "Number of articles of over 5,000 words". >>> Sign-up now <<<

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Thank you

Fr33kman, thank you very much for your Checkuser assistance at Wikinews. Much appreciated. ;) Cheers, — Cirt (talk) 01:20, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

You're always very welcome. fr33kman 16:47, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

GOCE drive newsletter

Invitation from the Guild of Copy Editors The Guild of Copy Editors invites you to participate in their September 2011 Backlog elimination drive, a month-long effort to reduce the size of the copy editing backlog. The drive will begin on September 1 at 00:00 (UTC) and will end on September 30 at 23:59 (UTC). We will be tracking the number of 2010 articles in the backlog, as we want to copy edit as many of those as possible. Please consider copy editing an article that was tagged in 2010. Barnstars will be given to anyone who edits more than 4,000 words, with special awards for the top 5 in the categories "Number of articles", "Number of words", and "Number of articles of over 5,000 words". See you at the drive! – Your drive coordinators: Diannaa, Chaosdruid, The Utahraptor, Slon02, and SMasters. >>> Sign up now <<<

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New Page Patrol survey

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Green Dome

I think you made an error with this edit. The Green Dome is part of the Al-Masjid al-Nabawi in Medina and is over the house Muhammed and Aisha shared. The Masjid al-Haram is in Mecca and contained the house of Muhammed's first wife Khadijah bint Khuwaylid. That house has been turned into a block of toilets as per the reference at http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/mecca-for-the-rich-islams-holiest-site-turning-into-vegas-2360114.html which does not mention that the Green Dome has been destroyed and is dated 24 September 2011. The other reference, and I'm not sure if I'm looking at the same page you did, says that the Dome was painted silver but that local people complained, here 3rd sentence from the end. Cheers. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 23:00, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

To be honest, I'm terribly glad it was a mistake! Tonight's edits came from my firstly watching a TV program in the UK that said the grave of Mohammad had been replaced by a toilet block, and then I went to quite a few sites that seemed to confirm this. I was stunned/shocked that such a site would be allowed to become a place for the elimination of human waste; especially given that such a mess inside a house would require washing the place seven times! As a Christian, I could not imagine that someone would build a toilet over Jesus' last resting place (as recorded in Christendom's history). It was with Abdulaziz Al Sheikh's statement that "the green dome shall be demolished and the three graves flattened in the Prophet's Masjid" that got me really interested. I can fully understand that Wahabbis would wish to remove person worship (i.e.: idolatry) from Islam and so it started to make more sense to me. I couldn't believe that the relevant articles on Wikipedia would not have been updated to reflect this however. Thusly, I spent a lot of time tonight trying to verify the story one way or the other. From a personal perspective I was stunned because I could not understand any modern, progressive government destroying any building that was close to 1400 years old, no matter who had lived or died there. Thank you so much for correcting it!! :-) fr33kman 00:15, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

No problem. I thought at first that they had got around to destroying it. It seems to me that there is a bit of conflict with the worship/non-worship of people in Islam. I understand that Muslims don't want to end up with the same sort of idol worship that was going on in Mecca at the time of Muhammed and that is why most of Islam bans pictures of any notable Muslim. But at the same time it is required that every time Muhammed's (or one of the other important people) name is spoken or written it should be followed by one of the Islamic honorifics, like this. It seems to me that doing that is getting very close to worshipping him. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 07:22, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

I'm one of Jehovah's Witnesses and we keep it simple; we worship God and only God. :) It does seem a cultural shame that these sites in the kingdom are being destroyed. I'd say that they are as much the treasures of humanity as they are places connected to a religion. I can't imagine many buildings in the UK being purposely destroyed that are 1400 years or so old. And yes, PBUH does seem a tad in opposition to these ideas, but it's not my religion so I'll not really comment. Happily, this mistake did lead me to come to know that this was happening. I suppose my beliefs would call it a sign of the times :) Once again, thanks for the catch! fr33kman 13:53, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

Ref error

hi, your query: you didn't use the title parameter in cite news so it rendered as a ref error. Look at that reference in the article's references section after you did your edit [16] cheers Tom B (talk) 19:34, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

GOCE newsletter

Greetings from the Guild of Copy Editors Elections are currently underway for our third tranche of Guild coordinators. The voting period will run for 14 days: 00:01 UTC, 16 December – 23:59 UTC, 31 December. All GOCE members, as well as past participants of any of the Guild's Backlog elimination drives, are eligible to vote. There are five candidates vying for four positions. Your vote really matters! Cast your vote today.

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GOCE 2011 Year-End Report

Guild of Copy Editors 2011 Year-End Report We have reached the end of the year, and what a year it has been! The Guild of Copy Editors was full of activity, and we achieved numerous important milestones in 2011. Read all about these in the Guild's 2011 Year-End Report. Highlights Membership grows to 764 editors, an increase of 261 Report on coordinators' elections Around 1,000 articles removed through six Backlog elimination drives Guild Plans for 2012 Requests page report Sign up for the January 2012 Backlog elimination drive! Get your copy of the Guild's 2011 Year-End Report here On behalf of the Guild, we take this opportunity to wish you Season's Greetings and Happy New Year. We look forward to your support in 2012! – Your 2011 Coordinators: Diannaa (lead), The Utahraptor, and Slon02 and SMasters (emeritus).

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