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[edit] Please excuse my rudeness

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Hi, Fred Bauder, you'll likely not be pleased about this but I have suppressed a number of edits to your userspace which reveal too much personally identifiable information about yourself. I've done this per policy and for your own protection and safety on-line as you are a self-declared minor. I'm really sorry about that and I know it's annoying, but it's for the best. Please don't re-add it. For some useful information on privacy and safety, take a look at Wikipedia:Guidance for younger editors. Thanks, and sorry for messing about with your pages - User:Fred Bauder Talk 10:13, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

You'll note that your userpage has been modified somewhat. This is for your own good; to learn more about why this was done, you can read this page.

I apologize for the inconvenience. User:Fred Bauder Talk 01:22, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

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[edit] Wikipedia:Welcoming committee

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[edit] Defender of the Wiki

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[edit] WELCOME ON BOARD

Hi Fred, first of all welcome on board as an online ambassador!!!

I am already the CA for SSE, Year 3, Group A, and its wonderful to have you also, to help :) Have fun, and feel free to ask me, if you have any problems at all, i will be happy to help you :) Devanshi tripathi (talk) 14:02, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you

Hey Fred, thanks for the information, and yes i saw your message on the project page, great!!!

I will let you know if i need any help, as far as the progress of the class is considered, its going well, most of the students have started working on their articles. The deadline for them to complete it is 14th October. Just thought it would be nice to let you know :) Will keep you posted :)

Devanshi tripathi (talk) 11:14, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

1.hey,iv been told some things match from the site of my school on which i have written an article..but those r only the objective and mission i really arent allowed to change tht.i cant write that in my own words.what do i do? 2. i wanna place my pictures on the right hand side,how do i do tht? 3.someone asked me to list where i got the images from they r mine or my frnds,so where do i mention that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bhavna.jaidwal (talk • contribs) 19:39, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

[edit] navy children school ,visakhapattnam

this article is written by me coz it was my school most of the things written r my experience as in pfr and houses and all.iv taken the help of my school diary and also the site.i have put the site in links soo do i still need to put it in reference?Bhavna.jaidwal (talk) 14:29, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

Yes, information needs to be published by some reliable sources, at least a newspaper. Your personal experiences are not accepted as a source. User:Fred Bauder Talk 15:47, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Grey DeLisle

Hi, I'm a bit puzzled about your actions taken with Grey DeLisle. A new editor has been trying to update a relationship status and is the process of finding RSs. The delete mentions in the article and on my user page seems rather OTT. There was nothing sensitive in it other than details on a current partner, information which goes unsourced in many thousands of other articles. I'm not saying it's presence should not be challenged but I don't understand why it should be 'suppressed' point blank. Was there a BLP complaint made? More background to the action would be appreciated. Thank you. Span (talk) 18:06, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

An OTRS request for oversight. Suppression was based on use of the name of the supposed boyfriend. User:Fred Bauder Talk 18:09, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

Ah. Thanks for the info. Does that mean that even with an RS the info would not stand? Span (talk) 18:13, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

Not an issue if there is a reliable source like the Music City News. Although for possibly controversial information, such as sex change, you should find more than one source. User:Fred Bauder Talk 18:15, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

Am I right in thinking that someone mailed WP to specifically request that the relationship details were removed or was it an automatic flag based on the man's name based on past difficulties? Corradopark3 is keen to work on the personal life section. I am unclear as to what to advise. Span (talk) 18:22, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

Yes a request to OTRS for oversight, email User:Oversight. He needs to have references, not a report of a phone call from the subject. User:Fred Bauder Talk 19:00, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

OK. Thanks. Span (talk) 19:04, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

[edit] ACC access

YesY Done Sorry for the wait. Mlpearc Public (Talk) 18:55, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

[edit] User page

Hi Fred--you got a few messages on your user page, I noticed. Drmies (talk) 22:17, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, I never would have found them. User:Fred Bauder Talk 23:18, 3 October 2011 (UTC)


hey hi .. my work on Wikipedia got removed by someone, I'm bit confused as I don't find it irrelevant. please suggest me what to do.Bhanu Shikha (talk)

Fix it. Create appropriate references and correct the grammar. User:Fred Bauder Talk 23:18, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

Hi. You are the online ambassador for me. Do take a look at my article, link is there on my user page. I haven't put any references till now, but apart from that, I would really like a feedback from you! Thanks :) Tejal Johri (talk) 15:31, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

It looks good, but as I have never heard of the subject, I would have to see references to even get started. It is much better practice to put references into your work as you develop it. User:Fred Bauder Talk 23:22, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Mystery

Please solve this mystery if you can...

On September 23rd, traffic to Portal:James Bond doubled, and has stayed at the new level since then. I can't figure out what happened.

See http://stats.grok.se/en/201109/Portal%3AJames_Bond

Traffic to Outline of James Bond stayed the same (though it was at the higher-level already), which leads me to suspect changes made somewhere in Wikipedia.

See http://stats.grok.se/en/201109/Outline%20of%20James_Bond

I'd like to find out what happened, in case it reveals helpful link placement tips that can double the traffic to outlines too!

I look forward to your reply on my talk page. The Transhumanist 23:12, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

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I will definitely add more references. The thing is, im mainly writing this theory using 3 books as references, I've already added two of them, will be putting in the third and then also look up online sources from which i can add more information. I have also replied to the post on the discussion page of the article :) thank you for adding in the additional reference and fixing the links.:) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aishwarya.khosla (talk • contribs) 17:11, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

[edit] endogenous growth theory

I have to add a sidebar to my article, which is a sub category of economic growth or economic theory. There is no sidebar for these two topics. can you help me add the sidebar or create a new one. Can I add it as a sub topic of economics sidebar.shikha (talk —Preceding undated comment added 07:18, 12 October 2011 (UTC).

I have set up a template at Template:Development economics sidebar/Sandbox. Edit that, plugging in appropriate categories and articles. User:Fred Bauder Talk 11:14, 12 October 2011 (UTC)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Economics_sidebar please check whether its OK or suggest me the changes I need to make. shikha (talk —Preceding undated comment added 17:00, 12 October 2011 (UTC).


[edit] development economics sidebar

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Development_economics_sidebar/Sandbox

i'm sorry, I gave you the wrong link. please check whether it ok and suggest changes.shikha (talk —Preceding undated comment added 17:30, 12 October 2011 (UTC).

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[edit] User:Bhavna.jaidwal/sandbox

my article was recently deleted due to copywright violation i have made sure there is no copywright can u see it in my sandbox and let me know if its fine as and when you get the time.Bhavna.jaidwal (talk) 19:34, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

It looks ok to me but still has only one reference other than the schools website. I'm not sure you can avoid deletion without more. User:Fred Bauder Talk 20:06, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Ambassadorship

Hello-I see you've offered advice to Rg the secret. Recently that editor and I have had disagreement over edits at Walras' law. Possibly you can check out the discussion here and help them do whatever they think they need to do. My recommendation there is quite serious. I think what they're doing would be better suited to a Wikibook, and that could help a book which really needs it rather than forcing it into a Wikipedia article which doesn't, so maybe they should check with their instructor to get credit for Wikibook edits. CRETOG8(t/c) 20:56, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

I am not familiar with the subject and even if I were, my role as a online ambassador is to help with wiki markup and such. User:Fred Bauder Talk 21:02, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
Drat! I was hoping you could maybe also help to navigate the bureaucracy. O well, thanks anyway! CRETOG8(t/c) 21:28, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
Your suggestion was good. But for all I know, the subject is important and vital, belongs on the Main page.... User:Fred Bauder Talk 21:31, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
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[edit] Please unprotect Mindless Behavior

Their notability has been proven, their debut album has been released, yet this page remains bare because of your indefinite protection. I think any threat to this is over, so if you could please unprotect this page, I will add relevant information. Thank you, Tom Danson (talk) 19:52, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

Done, but no Wikipedia article can withstand mindless behavior by minor subjects. User:Fred Bauder Talk 20:40, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Dispute opened by Hermiod against Kgorman-ucb about men's rights

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[edit] Confused

I am not sure what to make of that comment. Are you saying the edit was inappropriate? Centrify (f / k / a FCAYS) (talk) (contribs) 17:23, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

I'm still at a loss. How is it that the SPS policy allows this? Are you saying that the blog poster is somehow a recognized expert? Or perhaps that this falls under the "sources on themselves" heading? If the latter, does that mean that anyone who claims to have an affiliation with OWS can post something about it and be allowed in WP under that aspect of the policy?
I haven't found anything about the progressive stack on the New York City General Assembly website, although it might be there. Generally, information which is not controversial may be used from information on sources about themselves. We would have to investigate the other activities of the bloggers to see if any of them are professional published journalists covering the event. User:Fred Bauder Talk 20:31, 29 October 2011 (UTC)
As for "fact laundering", the thrust of that policy seems to be that an unreliable source can't be made reliable simply by republication in a mainstream source. If the original source is unreliable (as it seems to be here) then it would seem the laundering policy means it should simply be removed altogether. Do you agree? Or is there something I am missing? Centrify (f / k / a FCAYS) (talk) (contribs) 20:21, 29 October 2011 (UTC)
WP:RS, applied blindly, would require removing the information entirely, but WP:IAR... User:Fred Bauder Talk 20:31, 29 October 2011 (UTC)
WP:IAR is my favorite rule to ignore :P
Seriously though, is such a contentious article a wise place to recommend overlooking a core policy? Just seems like an invitation for POV-pushing. Centrify (f / k / a FCAYS) (talk) (contribs) 21:29, 29 October 2011 (UTC)
It is not a matter of overlooking it, but of applying it appropriately. By the way here are the hand signals on the site. User:Fred Bauder Talk 22:44, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

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[edit] A cookie for you!

Choco chip cookie.png Where have you been Fred!? I miss your presence...man up and come back to us. Or perhaps you're on vacation or running around with the RF :) Regardless, just stopping by to say I miss your Wiki-Face! SarahStierch (talk) 03:29, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

[edit] A barnstar for you!

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[edit] eBay auction

In the news today, and proof of the obsession that the UK tabloids have developed with this saga: Imogen Thomas is selling her clothes from the time of the injunction on eBay.[3] Four days to go on the dresses, shoes and bra.[4]--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 20:30, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Comment on BLP

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Biographies_of_living_persons

I do not know if this discussion is still ongoing but I commented on it, if it is of any interest to you. If not, please disregard. Thanks. Mugginsx (talk) 20:31, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

[edit] CueCat - an apology

Your comment is correct, and I have apologized at WP:BLPN. Thank you for pointing out that it was wrong for me to add those quotes. I will be much more careful in the future. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 03:58, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Proposed deletion of Extreme energy

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[edit] Talk:Pregnancy#RfC: Which photo should we use in the lead?

You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Pregnancy#RfC: Which photo should we use in the lead?. You participated in the previous RFC on the lead image, Talk:Pregnancy/Archive 4#Lead image RfC. Nil Einne (talk) 14:50, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Electrical phenomena part added

I added thunderstorm because it is a electric phenomenon charged by diverse nature elements leading to lightning and more conductivity. Let me know if its ok. I want to create a list of electrical article or electricity generation. Like electric chair electric eel lighting thunderstorm electrodes and so forth. Would that be good to create. Plus maybe will add electrical equations or just electricity generation.Shawn Worthington Laser Plasma (talk) 20:49, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:WikiProject Dispute Resolution

You may be interested in this. Peter jackson (talk) 18:16, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you

I would just like to thank you for helping out over at the ACC interface with checkuser requests. Your contributions are greatly appreciated. -- Luke (Talk) 00:04, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Assuming you're the same Fred Bauder...

Thanks for your action in the matter dealt with by email. Hopefully the issue is not as serious as it could be. I'm thrilled you took action perhaps outside your normal remit. You rock! I wasn't sure if responding by email would a) get to you or b) clog up the works unnecessarily, thus the response here. If you have no idea who I am or why I am thanking you, Hiya! Keep it up! (whatever it is) fredgandt 15:35, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Signer Pledge

PLEASE put the information of the pledge into each Representative's tenure section. Thank you.--Jerzeykydd (talk) 19:43, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

No. Please don't add any sections or subsections. Just put it in tenure. That's the easiest thing to do. Please fix it for me.--Jerzeykydd (talk) 20:34, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
What you did in Lamar Smith's page is fine.--Jerzeykydd (talk) 21:03, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Hi

Glad to see you are still around; I am trying to stay out of controversy in my editing currently. Best wishes. Thanks, ♫ SqueakBox talk contribs 19:33, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks!

Never knew that FEMEN and Lady Godiva had something in common! thanks for creating "Category:Protest disrobing"! — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 21:43, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Ryan Giggs

This has been back in the High Court today. Coverage here and here.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 16:00, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

[edit] requesting your attention in AE thread

Hello. You have responded to AE threads where I was involved in the past and you seem a reasonable person, so I was wondering if you'd mind looking at this one: [5] Two admins have suggested that I be topic banned from R&I articles based on the idea that my edits are non-neutral, but I'm not sure whether the admins have looked at the diffs carefully to see if that's true. It looks to me like they might just be believing this accusation at the word of the people who made it, all of whom have a history of disagreeing with me. Most of the "regulars" on these articles actually approve of my editing, but as a matter of luck this thread was posted at a time when none of them are active.

I would really appreciate it if you could look at the diffs in this thread, and decide whether you think my edits really are non-neutral or not. If the diffs do demonstrate it then I suppose a topic ban is what I deserve. But I don't think it's fair to sanction me without looking closely at the evidence. If you're going to look at the thread please do it soon, because it might be closed within the next few hours.Boothello (talk) 22:50, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Surprised

I just ran into this quote from you "I'm afraid there is no way to avoid serious problems with most Russian media controlled by the government and thus unreliable sources, and the distinct possibility of involvement by agents of the Russian government in our editing." I'm a bit confused how we could possibly deal with this if it were happening, and how it could be possibly be proved. I assume the first thing that would happen is that folks would go around screaming AGF, AGF! So is there a practical solution to a possible problem? I know this is a sensitive topic, so you may e-mail me if you prefer, but I won't be commenting off-wiki on this. Smallbones (talk) 23:41, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

We just do the best we can. However, with respect to political events, I am not prepared to accord government controlled media recognition as a reliable source. As to editing by Russians, for example from United Russia, normal conflict of interest considerations apply. We go by the content and nature of editing. User:Fred Bauder Talk 23:49, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
Ah! It looked like "involvement by agents of the Russian government" meant something like the the FSB or KGB. Now that would be hard to prove! Smallbones (talk) 00:58, 17 December 2011 (UTC)
I'm not sure Putin could get anyone from the FSB to edit Wikipedia; he would be foolish to try. User:Fred Bauder Talk 01:04, 17 December 2011 (UTC)
That is one of the worst quotes I have thus far seen on WP. And no less made by an admin. Fred, can I ask, do you ever use your admin tools in areas related to articles in which you have a strong POV (evidence can be shown of this POV if needed), or do you refrain from doing so at all. Just because numerous editors are not going to allow other editors to use WP as a tool for their advocacy, this does not mean that we are employed by the Russian government (I've had that accusation thrown at me a million times in the past); it simply means that we are protecting WP in terms of WP:NPOV. The way you have attempted to sideline almost all Russian opinion from WP is quite telling. This is a common tactic on the part of POV editors I can tell you. Oh, and I guess I better enlighten people like Smallbones; Fred is absolutely wrong with his "most Russian media controlled by the government" line -- it is an old line that is tried and tested, but it is an absolute fallacy. TV in Russia is for the most part controlled by the government - REN being an example of a network which isn't. Print media (i.e. newspapers) is not controlled by the government, and is thriving. The internet is the wild west, and is not controlled by the government in any way shape or form. So Fred's assertion that Russian media is controlled by the government is a complete fallacy, and should be taken only as a comment by someone who holds a particular POV albeit without having much of a clue of the realities as they stand. Y u no be Russavia ლ(ಠ益ಠლ) 13:20, 17 December 2011 (UTC)
Administrators are not allowed to use their administrative tools with respect to matters they edit or people they interact with in the course of editing. I cannot apologize for an anti-authoritarian point of view. I support democracy. User:Fred Bauder Talk 13:36, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

I'm very familiar with Russian media and, as Russavia says, most TV is controlled by the government. It's fair to say that other media is "heavily influenced" by the government with a few exceptions. I was most surprised by Fred's opinion that Putin doesn't have any influence at the FSB. After all Putin was a career KGB officer and headed the FSB under Yeltsin (according to his official bio). But this conversation is getting to be too much for me. What started as a hypothetical, now could be too easily misinterpreted. And if anybody wanted to misinterpret it, all hell could break loose. Smallbones (talk) 15:37, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

It is important to recognize when external elements may, or are, attempting to influence Wikipedia content, or public opinion generally, for example "leaks" from the United States government to The New York Times promoting some agenda. It is also important while taking reasonable measures to minimize the effect of such efforts to not overdo things. Nixon tried to use the FBI before and during Watergate. He was badly burned. Nixon may have famously said, "I am not a crook", but there is no question that the FBI is not a gang of crooks. User:Fred Bauder Talk 15:59, 17 December 2011 (UTC)
Editors were paid to legitimize Russian interests in the Trans-Dniester (Transnistria/"PMR"). Of course WP is the target of choice for anyone seeking to legitimize any cause or authority/regime. As for the Russian media, independent scholarship is clear on what is state owned and state controlled and how much leeway "independent" media have to criticize the government. PЄTЄRS J V ►TALK 05:59, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Your block of an ip

Hi Fred, thank you for your email about blocking an ip as an open proxy. This provider is service provider to UK commercial organisations You advised me to find an alternate provider, but this is not feasible for me as a single employee. However, as it turns out, whatever you did had no effect on my editing. Earlier this year, I twice found myself blocked from editing at work, but each time it was only a passing trouble and I found no difficulty when I tried again later the same day. I don't claim to understand it!

I would argue against blocking account creation from that IP address, because many other bona fide people may start editing from among the workforces of the many commercial customers of the provider. – Fayenatic (talk) 23:12, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Merry Christmas

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[edit] An appreciation

Thanks much for the "Chen Xi" redirect. Passionate and skillful. Wish I'd thought of it. Glad you thought of and did it. (Right of course ... where I was headed.)

Thanks again. Happy New Year. Swliv (talk) 23:59, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Osama Ajmal

Hello there,

I'm not sure if you realized it or not, but you created an article Osama Ajmal that appears to be an item intended for a talk page. I believe it was likely done in WP:Good faith, but the correct deletion code for this situation in vandalism.

I'll jump in here because I just saw the speedy deletion tag. Of course this should be speedily deleted, but the correct deletion reason most certainly is not "vandalism". This was just about as far from vandalism as you can possibly get. If none of the standard speedy deletion reasons applies then this should have been tagged with the general {{db}} template and deleted per WP:IAR, rather than with a totally unfounded accusation of vandalism. Phil Bridger (talk) 17:28, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
Oh, cool! Thanks for the correction.--CaroleHenson (talk) 17:35, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

[edit] Speedy deletion nomination of Osama Ajmal

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute to Wikipedia, introducing inappropriate pages, such as Osama Ajmal, is not in accordance with our policies. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, contest the deletion by clicking on the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". Doing so will take you to the talk page where you will find a pre-formatted place for you to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit the page's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. CaroleHenson (talk) 16:42, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your clarification on my talk page. I just had never seen anything like that before when using WP:AWB to edit new articles - and you were the only author on the article. It seems information more appropriate for a talk page, but then what do I know?--CaroleHenson (talk) 17:54, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

[edit] Disambiguation link notification

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[edit] Please review the citations I have added

Sir, I have added some citations to the page College of Engineering, Pune which I would like you to have a look at, so that there are no issues over the way it has been formatted. Kindly let me over the nature of correction, if any, required.Jobin (talk) 17:09, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

I didn't look at the PDF, but it is a good reference for information about the administration of the college. User:Fred Bauder Talk 17:16, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

[edit] User:Jason Gastrich

Please see WP:AN#The return of Jason Gastrich?. This case goes back to 2006 and you were the blocking admin way back then. Your thoughts would be appreciated there. Mjroots (talk) 16:59, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

[edit] Bendali Debs

Hello Fred Bauder.
Per this source: http://www.theage.com.au/national/guilty-of-killing-two-prostitutes-and-two-policemen-20111212-1oqzz.html, the trial is over, Debs has been found guilty of murder (4th time!) and I would assume that his page can be unprotected, restored and updated. n.b the Silk-Miller police murders already had the text updated, but un-sourced which I have corrected. Regards, 220 of Borg 11:46, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

YesY Done
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[edit] ACC mistake

Hi, I think I might have made an account for a user under a rangeblock: http://toolserver.org/~acc/acc.php?action=zoom&id=72541. I spent a while researching whether the name was promotional, then afterwards I think I remember they were rangeblocked. Just wanted to let someone know. Thanks, — Bility (talk) 21:00, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

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[edit] NNU Class Project - Winter 2012

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[edit] Teodor Atanasiu

Would it be possible to send me a copy of the article as of my January 29 revision, so I can see if anything is salvageable from sources that currently exist? - Biruitorul Talk 15:08, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

[edit] UTRS Account Request

I confirm that I have requested an account on the UTRS tool. User:Fred Bauder Talk

Approved, welcome to the team! The Helpful One 18:00, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

[edit] MSU Interview

Dear Fred,


My name is Jonathan Obar user:Jaobar, I'm a professor in the College of Communication Arts and Sciences at Michigan State University and a Teaching Fellow with the Wikimedia Foundation's Education Program. This semester I've been running a little experiment at MSU, a class where we teach students about becoming Wikipedia administrators. Not a lot is known about your community, and our students (who are fascinated by wiki-culture by the way!) want to learn how you do what you do, and why you do it. A while back I proposed this idea (the class) to the community HERE, were it was met mainly with positive feedback. Anyhow, I'd like my students to speak with a few administrators to get a sense of admin experiences, training, motivations, likes, dislikes, etc. We were wondering if you'd be interested in speaking with one of our students.


So a few things about the interviews:

  • Interviews will last between 15 and 30 minutes.
  • Interviews can be conducted over skype (preferred), IRC or email. (You choose the form of communication based upon your comfort level, time, etc.)
  • All interviews will be completely anonymous, meaning that you (real name and/or pseudonym) will never be identified in any of our materials, unless you give the interviewer permission to do so.
  • All interviews will be completely voluntary. You are under no obligation to say yes to an interview, and can say no and stop or leave the interview at any time.
  • The entire interview process is being overseen by MSU's institutional review board (ethics review). This means that all questions have been approved by the university and all students have been trained how to conduct interviews ethically and properly.


Bottom line is that we really need your help, and would really appreciate the opportunity to speak with you. If interested, please send me an email at obar@msu.edu (to maintain anonymity) and I will add your name to my offline contact list. If you feel comfortable doing so, you can post your name HERE instead.

If you have questions or concerns at any time, feel free to email me at obar@msu.edu. I will be more than happy to speak with you.

Thanks in advance for your help. We have a lot to learn from you.

Sincerely,

Jonathan Obar --Jaobar (talk) 19:23, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

[edit] YGM

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Replied. -- DQ (ʞlɐʇ) 20:53, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

[edit] AfD/PROD notifications

Howdy Fred, hope you're doing well. Back in November, you got either an AfD or PROD notification, and it was during one of the template testing project's experiments. If you could go here and leave us some feedback about what you think about the new versions of the templates we tested (there are links on the page), that would be very useful. (You can also email me at swalling@wikimedia.org if you want.) Thanks! Steven Walling (WMF) • talk 22:34, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

[edit] CyberDefender

Could you place state under which deletion process you deleted CyberDefender? I see no deletion discussion, no Prod, and the article clearly was not eligible for any speedy deletion category. You could have removed the allegations, but instead deleted the article, as far as I can tell, based solely on your own personal opinion. I'm fairly certain that admins are not tasked with such actions. Could you please explain if there is something I'm missing, like an OTRS request? If not, please undelete the article, and, if you wish, take it to AfD. Qwyrxian (talk) 03:03, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

It was an OTRS action based on defamation considerations. Republishing the numerous allegations abroad on the web concerning CyberDefender during the course of a discussion will only expand the problem. User:Fred Bauder Talk 12:57, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
While I agree that the sources used by both sides of the content dispute in this article are of questionable reliability, I believe the article should have gone to AfD before deletion. As far as I can tell, our AfDs are not indexed by Google, so I don't think the issue of visibility is a major one. -- Blanchardb -Me•MyEars•MyMouth- timed 17:13, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
Due to litigation experience, it is not my practice to publish defamatory material. User:Fred Bauder Talk 17:41, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
In that case, given that article's stormy history, I urge you to protect it from recreation as well, otherwise it's only a matter of time before it pops up again. Let those who advocate its presence take their case to WP:DRV. -- Blanchardb -Me•MyEars•MyMouth- timed 18:19, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
Done at the time with a long note explaining why the page is protected and what it will take to recreate it, reliable sources. User:Fred Bauder Talk 18:22, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

[edit] Climate change denial and The Heartland Institute

[edit] Dairy Management Inc.

FIrst off, I see today marks your tenth year on WIkipedia. Congratulations! Next, I seek understanding on your edit on the Dairy Management article. There have been endless edits between a number of editors on the issue of the check-off program fee. As I see it, the government forces you to pay it, it is therefore a tax. You (and others) see it otherwise. Could you please enlighten me? (Odd how any odd little factoid can get people excited.) Paul, in Saudi (talk) 01:53, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Well, I do not feel too strongly about it. For some reason others do seem to feelstrongly about, so I suppose I shall let that dog sleep. No reason to stir up trouble. Thanks for your comments. Paul, in Saudi (talk) 03:39, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

[edit] My personnal archives

Please Do not edit the contents of this page http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Genevieve2/Archive_2&action=history. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. Thanks, merci --Cordialement féministe ♀ Cordially feminist Geneviève (talk) 02:25, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

[edit] Haymarket affair GAR

Are you going to follow though with this? You seem to have missed the third step: notifying the last GA reviewer and the relevant WikiProjects. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 04:28, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Guess I'm clueless. I'll check into how to do it. User:Fred Bauder Talk 05:37, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
No problem. Would you like me to help you notify the WikiProjects? — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 19:32, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
Please, so far I've only done this one. User:Fred Bauder Talk 19:38, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
Done. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 19:53, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
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