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IP linkspammer[edit] who you blocked back in May for linkspamming (which is all that IP does) is back to his old habits with some new but very similar URL's. Just FYI; do as you deem appropriate. Regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 13:20, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

Note - see also
Same provider. I have just now removed a few links. - DVdm (talk) 13:53, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
Thanks, I've blocked the two more recent accounts. It may be worth running a check for additions of that url occasionally to catch more.-gadfium 19:44, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
Yes, I have the entry—and its cousin—on my sandbox page. If/when they return, I'll propose blacklisting. Cheers - DVdm (talk) 19:54, 10 July 2014 (UTC)


Hi Gadfium. I just noticed this Special:Contributions/NZOFLC which appears from this [1] to act on behalf of the NZOFLC. I don't see anything wrong with their actual contributions but understand that organisations aren't supposed to operate corporate accounts. Could you have a quiet word with them to 'go legit' before they get blocked? Thanks. Daveosaurus (talk) 05:54, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

Mt Albert Grammar School[edit]

Hi, can I ask you deal with this COI issue? You are more experienced than me with wikipedia procedures and rules (and I probably have a COI issue by being a former employee).

Estelle is the Communications Officer of the school, so is obviously paid to promote the school in a positive light. In my opinion, the sports issue is important for MAGS and Auckland schools in general because it's a widely occurring (and unethical) practice. Very few schools have been caught or punished for it, which makes this important.

However, as always, I will listen to your experience and wisdom.

Regards gmoney484 (talk) 21:43, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

I think the appropriate method for schools to deal with such reporting is to add references to how school policies have changed to avoid repeats of the problem. Unfortunately, the common response is to attempt to suppress the reporting, which may reflect a lack of policy changes.-gadfium 05:11, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

Zealand nonsense[edit]

User talk:JonathanO Cunha (Me) was blocked by you, he seemed to have made a new account and make the same nonsensical edits on the Zealand and Danish-New Zealand relations articles: Special:Contributions/J.Ryan_O'Brien_1996_Girl. CRwikiCA talk 13:21, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, I've blocked the new account.-gadfium 20:20, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

Please fill out your JSTOR email[edit]

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Block for User:[edit]

Hey. A few months ago you blocked User: for persistent vandalism. It seems that, based on information about the IP address, it is a shared IP for Marsden Collegiate School. Unless there were other reasons, could you possibly add {{schoolblock}} to the block reason. Thanks, — Parent5446 (msg email) 18:57, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

I've done that. Thanks.-gadfium 20:00, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

WP:JSTOR access[edit]

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Conservative Party[edit]

Christine Rankin And Callum Blair both got seats on the Upper Habour Board[1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hellfire424 (talkcontribs) 04:20, 9 August 2014 (UTC)

It's the silly season again and party-supporters are creating articles for candidates who are clearly not notable. Latest example is Callum Blair, created by Thecrystalcicero (talk · contribs). Procedurally, what is the best thing to do? Merge the content into Wikipedia:WikiProject New Zealand/politics/New MPs/Callum Blair and leave a redirect behind? Or move the content without leaving a redirect? Or do we have to go through a full-blown AfD (which would hardly be sensible, as that way, the article would remain until election day)? Schwede66 21:42, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
For people who have no claim to notability other than standing as a candidate with no realistic chance of winning, nominate them for speedy deletion with {{db-bio}}.
Callum Blair does have at least some claim to notability, as a North Shore and Auckland Council politician. He will become an MP if the Conservative Party make the 5% threshold, which looks possible. This is borne out by @Mattlore:'s creation of a draft article on him. As I see it, you could either AfD the article, and withdraw it should election night figures show him to be a pending MP, or wait until after election day and decide then whether an AfD is appropriate. I wouldn't bother with a {{prod}} since that would only delay matters.-gadfium 23:12, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
Having been a councillor for North Shore doesn't give notability, neither does membership of a local board in Auckland. Mattlore and I are the ones most active creating draft articles for potential new MPs, hence the draft sitting there does not foreshadow notability, but it's there in case the Conservatives get over 5% (which would make Blair an MP, and then he would be notable). The beef that I've got is with bios being created a week out from election day; lengthy AfD processes won't manage to get them out of mainspace until such time that the election either confirms notability or otherwise. I'll copy the material across to the politics space and try db-bio. Schwede66 00:38, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
Ok, that's your call. I will not take any action on the speedy deletion tag, either to delete the article or decline the deletion, but I have no problem with any other admin taking either action.-gadfium 01:05, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

Papua New Guinea[edit]

I have no objection to your changing the spelling back to Br./Australian spelling at Papua New Guinea. I just thought I'd mention that "enterprizes" -- "manually restored" by Jaguar -- is not even correct American spelling; it is spelled "enterprises", the same as Br./Australian spelling. CorinneSD (talk) 01:11, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

Hamilton Boys High School Copyright Thing[edit]

How does Wikipedia make sure that the content is not copyrighted? And how can copyrighted information from somewhere be agreed on by Hamilton Boys High School?

Qwertyxp2000 (talk) 04:57, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

The school's web page says at the bottom that it's copyrighted. Even if it didn't make that explicit, there's an implicit copyright on everything published. It would only be usable on Wikipedia if it has a copyright message compatible with our own (ie Creative Commons BY SA 3.0), or the claim of copyright was bogus (which is not the case here). If you represent the school and want to place the information under a suitable copyright for Wikipedia, see the link I put on your talk page.-gadfium 06:18, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

New Zealand women's national softball team Proposed Move[edit]

Hi, this may be of interest to you. Bogger (talk) 10:13, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

Cameron Slater page edit confusion[edit]

Hi, I'm a little confused here. I edited the Cameron Slater page because I felt it was bias, then it was changed back to the original because my edits where thought to be bias? I may see where you're coming from but I have no affiliation with Cameron Slater or any person involved with him. I made a few minor adjustments to a couple of sentences, for example "In 2014 his reputation was tarnished by revelations in Nicky Hager's book Dirty Politics that demonstrated his close ties to Justice Minister Judith Collins and Prime Minister John Key and that he had been paid to write attack articles on public figures who were opposed to the National party." I feel these are biased, please correct me if I'm wrong but shouldn't "his reputation was tarnished" not be included in an article with a neutral standpoint? After all it's a matter of opinion (some may say his reputation was tarnished, others may not) so to fix this shouldn't it be more like "allegations where made". Also "he had been paid to write attack articles on public figures" should include the word alleged, like when writing a news article because the book by Nicky Hager is not a reputable source of information, unless the information has been proven or confessed, like a man can't be guilty without proof or confession?

Anyway thanks for your time, I hope you consider my argument knowing your or anyone's opinion should not affect the outcome of articles on this website. Whether you change it or not is entirely up to you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CameronDV (talkcontribs) 04:26, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

If you are not Cameron Slater, then you picked your user name and choice of article to edit rather poorly. In general, we regard published books as reliable sources. What is the basis for you believing that Dirty Politics is not a reputable source of information?-gadfium 04:32, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

My name just happens to be Cameron, and is very common. I didn't say dirty politics is not a reputable source of information, what I said is I don't think articles in Wikipedia should use any information as a source without providing evidence of it's truth. You can write about Nicky Hager's book as an event in Cameron Slater's life, but what shouldn't happen is posting information suggesting an opinion, such as having his book tarnish his reputation without specifying that this is an opinion and is not fact. I also said that Wikipedia shouldn't indicate something is true without evidence (sources) proving as such, like above where I claimed "he had been paid to write attack articles on public figures" is not a proven fact and has not been proven to come from a reliable source (hacker) and so the word alleged be used is all I ask. I just feel the lines I speak of where opinionative, rather than just a recollection of an event. Also, should published books really be a source of information when the book itself was specifically biased and targeted in itself? I understand maybe a nature book talking about the biology of plants but this is not one, this is a targeted and biased book. CameronDV (talk) 06:28, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

I have removed the statement that his reputation was damaged. You can use the article talk page to highlight other concerns you may have.-gadfium 23:33, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, sorry if this was the wrong area to voice my concerns, I'm just new to the Wikipedia behind the scenes. CameronDV (talk) 05:04, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

Sue Bradford[edit]

Hi there,

You seem to have reversed my edit it the page regarding Sue Bradford. While I admit that I may have gone too far, I think it is reasonable to say that the Anti-smacking bill *is* an anti-smacking bill. It isn't "depicted" to be one, it is. Are you willing to compromise?

Thanks, Jonathan — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 07:39, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

You are welcome to suggest modifications to the article on its talk page. Please include suggested sources to back up your changes. The appropriate article may be Crimes (Substituted Section 59) Amendment Act 2007 which deals with the law change in more detail rather than Sue Bradford.-gadfium 08:31, 16 September 2014 (UTC)


Morning Gadfium. I wonder whether you can lend a hand with post-election tidy ups that require admin help. Chris Bishop (politician) should probably be moved to Chris Bishop over the existing redirect. Not sure why I can't do it myself, as there's only one edit on that redirect. Once done, Christopher Bishop would need a hatnote. Thanks! Schwede66 21:22, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

Hm, upon reflection, I'll turn Chris Bishop into a dab page; there are three pages it can point to. Schwede66 21:23, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
I was just about to suggest that.-gadfium 21:26, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
Ok, I now need a hand. I've moved Misa Fia Turner into mainspace, but it would seem that she would be the 21st list candidate for National, and they only got 20 over the line. Can you please move the page back to Wikipedia:WikiProject New Zealand/politics/New MPs/Misa Fia Turner without leaving a redirect in mainspace? Schwede66 21:55, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done-gadfium 22:01, 20 September 2014 (UTC)


I've created Ohariu, New Zealand and converted the redirect Ohariu to a disambiguation page. We obviously have an electorate that is called Ōhariu that previously didn't have a macron, and the redirect for the previous version sits at Ohariu (New Zealand electorate). Given the electorate's name and the name's history, would you concur with me that the current electorate article should be moved over an existing redirect (with edit history, hence I can't move) to Ōhariu (New Zealand electorate)? If so, please do. If you don't concur, please suggest alternative action. Schwede66 23:01, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

Further to this, I see that the electorate appears to have two macrons these days: Ōhāriu. So it should supposedly be Ōhāriu (New Zealand electorate). Schwede66 23:29, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
I presume you can move it yourself to the two-macron version. No objection from me.-gadfium 01:31, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for your reply. Have moved it now. Schwede66 01:52, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

Serial vandalism[edit]

Hi Gadfium, we have a serial vandal who has a fascination with the Joshua Williams article, plus an interest in a few other articles. In the last 20 days, the judge's page has been blanked nine times (or the content replaced with random rubbish) if I counted correctly. The anon uses a variety of IP addresses (four by my count), and it would appear to be a range of computers rather than a randomly assigned IP address. I suggest either edit protection of the Joshua Williams article, or blocking of the various IPs that the vandal uses (one of the IP addresses is blocked already), or both. What do you think? Schwede66 19:49, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

I've semi-protected the article.-gadfium 20:29, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
The judge's article has been stable; they probably haven't cottoned onto the fact that the semi-protection has expired. User talk: is 'asking' for another block judging by recent activity; their 3 months have expired. Schwede66 23:47, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
Yes check.svg Done-gadfium 00:11, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

Ballance Agri-Nutrients (Kapuni) Ltd v The Gama Foundation[edit]

The weblink I have put for the transcript takes up over half the page - any suggestions on how I can reduce it's footprint on the article — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kiwisheriff (talkcontribs) 06:22, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

See the third bullet point under Help:URL#Linking to URLs. Also see my edit on the article you mentioned. The text "Judgement" I used is just a suggestion. Feel free to replace it with something more appropriate.-gadfium 07:08, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

cheers for that — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kiwisheriff (talkcontribs) 10:54, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

Automobile Centre (Auckland) Ltd v Facer[edit]

I have a neutrality tag on this article, but the lister has put not a single note on file to say why they are challenging it. Any chance you can get the tag removed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kiwisheriff (talkcontribs) 10:58, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

I have removed it because it's been there for many months without any posting on the talk page. In general, you should post to the talk page of the person who placed it and ask them to explain their concerns at the article talk page.-gadfium 18:35, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

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Some silliness going on[edit]

Hi Gadfium. Could you please have a quick look at Grahame Thorne. There are a couple of IPs adding rumours based on blogs that I don't think are suitable for a BLP. Cheers. Daveosaurus (talk) 04:31, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

I've dealt with the matter.-gadfium 05:12, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
And the shenanigans are now going on at the talk page. Some people have too much time on their hands. Daveosaurus (talk) 10:53, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
Done. If this happens again in the middle of the night NZ time, drop a note to Fluffernutter who has dealt with this article previously. Chances are that she'll be able to fix it long before I wake up.-gadfium 21:21, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

Hello can you look in on Maori Culture please[edit]

Hello Gadfium- can you have a look at the edits and reverts from various editors- especially Stuart Yeates. I believe I have acted as per wiki rules (at least the ones I can follow) and in good faith.It is annoying to have other editors remove edits without giving any significant explanation. In the case of Stuart's -it appears to be a hasty,ill tempered aside rather than a considered, thoughtful response. Can you sort it out please? Stuart has said I am "pushing a line" without being too specific. My point is the original edit in the article was simply facts (all referenced)without any "interpretation" or explanation. An editor then asked for an explanation which I was happy to provide BUT this did not form part of the article. It was merely there to show its significance and how it fits in to Maori culture which I believe was the general thrust of their Q. It is completely in line with the article ie a balance of detail about Maori culture from a very wide variety of sources. I suspect that Stuart thinks he knows a bit about history and has taken offense at the portrayal of a Wakefield in anything other than a dismal light!This IS the general way that Wakefields/NZ company are portrayed in NZ history. Note the edit is NOT my opinion it is simply quoting from a source. Thanks in advance for you considered help. Claudia — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 01:50, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

As far as I can see, you have not broken the three-revert rule on that page, because you have edited different parts of the article rather than adding the same disputed material more than three times. However, you have been edit warring because you have re-added material after several different editors have removed it. I suggest you give that article a rest for a while. As always, you can make life easier for other editors, and thus for yourself, by improving the quality of your references. Is it so hard to copy and paste the url of the stuff article you are citing?-gadfium 02:02, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
Hi Gadfium. I see Claudia's already touched base with you but could you have a quick look at Talk:Māori culture as well and perhaps talk her back from the brink? I couldn't give a flying frog about the personal attacks (I've had much worse in my time, and anyone looking any deeper will realise they're a pack of lies) but she's now wasting the time of quality editors, like Stuartyeates and Blackcab, that could be better spent. Cheers. Daveosaurus (talk) 08:33, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
I think she might already have passed the brink, but I've had a lot of dealings with her over the years and consider myself an involved party. Perhaps an uninvolved admin who watches my page might like to take a look.-gadfium 19:06, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
Hi Gadfium. Thanks anyway. I wasn't asking for admin action so much as hoping you could give her an 'elder statesman' type talk. I see she's now started bringing people she thinks are editors' family members into the mix so, unfortunately, she's probably a lost cause. Daveosaurus (talk) 05:40, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
My two cents' worth: [2]. In short, this editor is a troll and too much time has already been wasted on debates with him/her. BlackCab (TALK) 23:21, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
Hi Blackcab. I don't think she's a troll so much as just completely clueless about Wikipedia (and possibly about interaction in general). The main problem with her actual article edits is that she indiscriminately adds material from reliable sources, contentious sources, unreliable sources and absolute bullshit and with her refusal to properly source her edits it's hard to figure out which is which. Cheers. Daveosaurus (talk) 05:40, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
He/she is more than that. "Claudia" in fact displays five of the six listed signs of being a disruptive editor; it's only "cite-tagging" that this troll fails to practise. On the issue of the origin of the name "Hauhau", for example, "Claudia" has three times reverted the Pai Mārire article to their errant viewpoint since May 2013 when I endeavoured to make clear what reliable sources said. "Claudia" has made no effort to address this at the talk page: his/her comment was just another oblique rant. The opening paragraphs of this article on trolling provide fairly convincing evidence of this person's intent. BlackCab (TALK) 05:55, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
No talk page stalker has intervened, so the next step is for someone to post to WP:ANI. Please include a link to the previous such discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive850#User_talk: advice and guidance please in any report.-gadfium 05:47, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

Hi Gadfium. OK thanks I'll have a go at that. I'll try to word things as neutrally as possible but please feel free to clarify what I don't get right first time. Cheers. Daveosaurus (talk) 05:55, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

Your opinion is needed[edit]

Hi. Can you offer your opinion in this consensus discussion? I know you did this last month, but it wasn't a formal consensus discussion, but now it is. Thanks. Nightscream (talk) 00:37, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

I took this article off my watchlist in early 2010, and don't recall giving such an opinion last month. What page did I post an opinion on?-gadfium 01:40, 13 November 2014 (UTC)


Hi Gadfium. I see you are most probably the most active editor on this page and I guess you followed its evolution edit by edit. This edit here introduced a longer version of the name, which makes mention of a "circumcised penis", with a source about circumcision. Whereas I am skeptical of the whole thing, I see that "circumcised penis" went through a number of - numerous - edits and as it stands now says "split penis". Your take on this? Regards, Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia (talk) 22:36, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

Kahuroa, who made this edit, was a most reliable Wikipedia editor and fluent in both Māori and English. He also conferred with me about this edit at User talk:Gadfium/archive38#Taumatawhakatangihangakoauauotamateapokaiwhenuakitanatahu. It's beyond my expertise to say whether "slit" or "circumcised" is the best translation, but as "slit" is the word used in the source that's the version easiest to defend.-gadfium 23:01, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
Thanks, Gadfium. Originally I thought it was vandalism, then I saw that no-one removed it even though the page went through numerous reverts of IP edits. Then I saw it was done by a registered user and with a source, but found odd the word changes. But thanks for settling it. Regards, Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia (talk) 11:03, 19 November 2014 (UTC)