User talk:Ganeshk/Archive 6

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to: navigation, search
Archive This is an archive of inactive discussions. Please do not edit it. If you wish to revitalize an old topic, bring it up on the active talk page.

Signpost updated for May 22nd.[edit]

The Wikipedia Signpost
Weekly Delivery



Volume 2, Issue 21 22 May 2006

About the Signpost


Project statistics updated, except for Wikipedia Deletion of metadata icons debated
Meetups And Newsworthy International Assemblages News and Notes: Wikimedia chapters report, milestones
Wikipedia in the News Features and admins
Bugs, Repairs, and Internal Operational News The Report On Lengthy Litigation

Home  |  Archives  |  Newsroom  |  Tip Line

You are receiving this message because you have signed up for the Signpost spamlist. If you wish to stop receiving these messages, simply remove your name from the list.

List of CMs of TN[edit]

A couple of quick observations - For the first few chief ministers, instead of the party, you have the # which when clicked, takes me to the main page of WP. You may want to correct that. Also, one major objection is that the state became TN only in 1953 or after that. Before that, it was the Madras State and comprised large parts of Andhra Pradesh. You may want to add a disclaimer to that effect. Good work!! btw, do ping me if u r ready for rfa - I'd take abt a week to draft it. --Gurubrahma 08:44, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Re:Anwar[edit]

Hi Ganesh - can you please have a look at user talk:Gurubrahma#Need your advice? We're trying to address the issues created by user:Anwar saadat's behavior, and would greatly appreciate your input. Rama's Arrow 04:50, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Featured list[edit]

It needs a legend for the colours, the text needs a copyedit, incumbents who enjoyed two terms need the dates of both terms, Kurma Venkata Reddy Naidu: no party? A photo of a CM if possible. Regards, =Nichalp «Talk»= 11:14, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Template:Hinduism[edit]

can you shrink or trim this template?--Dangerous-Boy 22:20, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Looks better than it did before. can you do the same for Template:Yoga?--Dangerous-Boy 07:41, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
Thanks. By the way, have you checked out Wikipedia:Hinduism-related topics notice board?--Dangerous-Boy 18:22, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

India map[edit]

Just to let You know that I added a map of Rajasthan inspired by your Gujarat map. I'm currently trying to fill a huge hole on the norwegian (:no) wikipedia (the different states of India). I have added no:Gujarat and are planning no:Rajasthan. Did not like the old map. :-) Haros 22:38, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome[edit]

I've been here for a bit, but my anemic edit history is a shame :) Kingsley2.com 00:58, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

CM list[edit]

The state of Tamil Nadu was not formed until 1968; the list includes Chief Ministers of Madras Presidency, a province of British India, and those of Madras State, which was formed after Indian independence in 1947, comprising of present day Tamil Nadu and parts of Andhra Pradesh, Karnataka and Kerala.

  1. I see a major objection here: Why list incumbents who never held the portfolio "Chief Minister of 'Tamil Nadu"? You'd have to justify the inclusion by using cogent phrases or have them removed.
  2. Non-party: seems odd. Unafflilated?
  3. Comment: 2 more tables can be added: A table on the CMs enjoying the most terms in office (descending), and parties enjoying the most terms in office. This would help clinch votes on the FLC.

=Nichalp «Talk»= 16:04, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

BJP Image[edit]

Thanks for informing me of my error. I was incorrectly informed of the nature of the image by the website.

Bmaganti 22:35, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Ajith salary proof:[edit]

http://www.behindwoods.com/tamil-movie-articles/movies-01/01-05-06-ajith-birthday.html

Nan Kadavul is dropped. So please remove it:

http://www.behindwoods.com/tamil-movie-news/may-06-04/26-05-06-ajith.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.164.255.1 (talkcontribs)

Fair use rationale for Image:Nehru indian independence speech.jpg[edit]

Thanks for uploading Image:Nehru indian independence speech.jpg. The image description page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in Wikipedia articles constitutes fair use.

Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale.

If you have uploaded other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on those pages too. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any fair use images lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you.

This is an automated notice by OrphanBot. For assistance on the image use policy, see Wikipedia:Media copyright questions. 20:10, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

List of Chief Ministers of Tamil Nadu[edit]

MGR pic[edit]

That pic was removed by OrphanBot when fair use was not being claimed. OrphanBot won't remove the pic now since it is not orphaned and it has a fair use rationale. Note that all the other pics are under fair use as well. -- Paddu 20:34, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

I can assure you all the pics are fair use and in case WP:FL wants to reduce the no. of such pics all the pics would be treated similarly and any number among them might have to go. Probably which pics should remain can be decided at the time of listing on WP:FL, or probably later in the talk page, where more people than you and me can have a look. Thanks! -- Paddu 20:39, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
As per [1], when OrphanBot removed the pic from M. G. Ramachandran, the licencing was {{somewebsite}}, so nothing surprising about what OrphanBot did! -- Paddu

Blank spaces[edit]

I suppose (from the various uses of Template:clr (talk · links · edit)) the blank spaces are considered better than the images extending to following sections which causes headings, edit section links and even normal text to be formatted haphazardly. The only way out of having blank space is to write some more text in place of the {{clr}}. -- Paddu

Now I understood the problem. In the monobook skin the font size is too small (which is one of the reasons I use the classic skin) so there are bound to be huge blank spaces created by {{clr}} or {{-}}. If you feel the overlap of images with tables/headings/etc. in small browsers and in classic skin is unimportant you can remove my {{clr}}s and format appropriately for the monobook skin since that is what most readers (being anonymous non-writers) would see. -- Paddu 16:46, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Re:Anwar[edit]

Hi Ganesh - what do you advise we do? That he is blatantly refusing to reform his own talkpage is a grave violation of WP:NPA itself. I'm prepared to go the distance. Rama's Arrow 23:29, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

I'm more concerned about this fellow's blatant refusal to do the honors himself. He's asking for it... Rama's Arrow 23:49, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
I suggest that you have a talk with him. Since you gave him a barnstar, you might get some response. Rama's Arrow 23:56, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

Indian current events[edit]

Hello Joturner, Not sure why you have merged the Indian currents events with the Pakistan even after the consensus did not indicate an unanimous vote of support. Please explain on my talk page. - Ganeshk (talk) 03:57, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

One more thing, It was an archive page of the news displayed on the Portal:India news section. - Ganeshk (talk) 04:01, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
Indeed, there was no unanimous support, but that unanimous support is not needed to achieve consensus. However, it appeared as though there was a general okay to merge several of the regional current events articles on the merge's discussion page (which, by the way, has been up for a few weeks now). Considering that the page for current events in Pakistan hasn't been updated since March, it only made sense to merge the two related articles into one section. The inclusiveness of all South Asian nations into one article will also allow for events from Bangladesh and Nepal, for example, to be included on one of the regional events pages. Could you please explain the problem you have with the merge? Of course, the Current events in South Asia page needs to cleaned up to reflect the change, so overlook that for now. As the page will still contain past current events for India, is it really a significant problem for Portal:India and Portal:Pakistan. I don't think it's a big deal, but perhaps you disagree. joturner 04:16, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

List of TN CMs[edit]

Great work, Ganesh. Will reply in detail later. -- Sundar \talk \contribs 06:59, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Looks fine. Only thing that needs to be done is to lay out the images, maps, and timelines properly. It's a minor issue though. -- Sundar \talk \contribs 08:23, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Hey sorry for not replying. Was busy with other things on the wiki. I think that others have chipped in and it is in a good enough shape that there isn't much that is wrong at a superficial level. I can have a deeper look only later. — Ravikiran 07:46, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Blnguyen's RfA[edit]

100px Hello Ganesh. Thank you for your strong support and tallying at request for adminship which ended at the overwhelming and flattering result of (160/1/0), and leaves me in a position of having to live up to a high standard of community expectation. As well as that, a thanks for helping to clean up Ajith Kumar. Should you need help with admin powers, feel free to ask me - and of course, if I make any procedural mistakes, feel free to point them out. Of course, I look forward to working with you in the future, and to your own impending RfA, for which I am anticipating records . Blnguyen | Have your say!!! 08:04, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Indian current events[edit]

Hello Joturner, Not sure why you have merged the Indian currents events with the Pakistan even after the consensus did not indicate an unanimous vote of support. Please explain on my talk page. - Ganeshk (talk) 03:57, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

One more thing, It was an archive page of the news displayed on the Portal:India news section. - Ganeshk (talk) 04:01, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
Indeed, there was no unanimous support, but that unanimous support is not needed to achieve consensus. However, it appeared as though there was a general okay to merge several of the regional current events articles on the merge's discussion page (which, by the way, has been up for a few weeks now). Considering that the page for current events in Pakistan hasn't been updated since March, it only made sense to merge the two related articles into one section. The inclusiveness of all South Asian nations into one article will also allow for events from Bangladesh and Nepal, for example, to be included on one of the regional events pages. Could you please explain the problem you have with the merge? Of course, the Current events in South Asia page needs to cleaned up to reflect the change, so overlook that for now. As the page will still contain past current events for India, is it really a significant problem for Portal:India and Portal:Pakistan. I don't think it's a big deal, but perhaps you disagree. joturner 04:15, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
I resplit the articles back into two different articles, one for Pakistan and one for India. joturner 15:57, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Signpost updated for May 29th.[edit]

The Wikipedia Signpost
Weekly Delivery



Volume 2, Issue 22 29 May 2006

About the Signpost


Semi-protection tweaks prompt debate over ideals Wikipedia administrator investigated after on-wiki dispute
Meetups And Newsworthy International Assemblages News and Notes: Wikimedia board resolutions, milestones
Wikipedia in the News Features and admins
Bugs, Repairs, and Internal Operational News The Report On Lengthy Litigation

Home  |  Archives  |  Newsroom  |  Tip Line

You are receiving this message because you have signed up for the Signpost spamlist. If you wish to stop receiving these messages, simply remove your name from the list.

Courts mixup[edit]

You know what, I got reminded of my edit when I was about to sleep last night and I lay restless for quite a while having known the mistake. Glad you fixed it. :-) -- Sundar \talk \contribs 06:00, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

By the way, I'm eagerly waiting for you to nominate List of Chief Ministers of Tamil Nadu at WP:FLC. Please do the honours. -- Sundar \talk \contribs 12:11, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks a lot[edit]

They look much better now. Thanks a lot. BTW, good work on the list of chief ministers. I will try and do something like that for gujarat too. Your list will help a lot of other lists. - Aksi_great (talk) 17:36, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

That is a nice idea. I will try and help. Another idea I had was a series of good articles (if not FAs) on the Nehru-Gandhi family. Each member has played an enormous role in Indian politics. I got this idea when I saw a show recently on the history channel. - Aksi_great (talk) 18:07, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks...[edit]

...for this, just noticed. btw, it is June already, what say? --Gurubrahma 20:44, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

You've got m@il. --Gurubrahma 17:42, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Political ideology[edit]

Ganesh, I initially had doubts if this wasn't the right place for that; something like Politics in Tamil Nadu would be a good choice. But, since you showed a precedent, we can add that here. Now, the problem remaining is the lack of a reliable source; it's purely my original research now. Also, it essentially will be biased. Give me links if you get any sources. Perhaps try Google Scholar? -- Sundar \talk \contribs 06:46, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Clearly, the two articles were written by people with known strong political leanings. We can only take the factual part from them. Let's look for some neutral, non-partisan sources. -- Sundar \talk \contribs 08:59, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

RfA[edit]

Hi, your admin nom is here. Just see if my nom is ok - if it requires copyedit, do it yourself. If it requires some additions or deletions, do let me know. I should be online from 1530UTC to 1830UTC with some breaks in between. Sign the nom, answer the questions and add it to WP:RFA after changing the time - btw, your model answers are perfect - you may want to expand on q.1. e.g. You have made some 300 reverts, so rollback wd be useful etc. Do answer the questions and accept the nom in one edit if possible; this shd not be difficult as you already have the answers on your user sub-page. I have not yet voted as I want to see a lot of "beating the nominator" support votes. I have been impressed with your work and I believe that you are a great asset to WP. Please read Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/nominate for instructions about accepting the nom etc. --Gurubrahma 14:51, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

5 votes already, great!! thanks a ton for fixing the code, I dunno why it became fully yellow, had an edit-conflict trying to fix it. --Gurubrahma 15:57, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Links for Wikipedians interested in Hinduism content[edit]

Do you think you could make a Links for Wikipedians interested in Hidnuism content like there is for India?--Dangerous-Boy 19:50, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

AP Images[edit]

Thanks for the tip about Wikimedia commons. I have uploaded the maps to http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Andhra_Pradesh and also http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Andhra_Pradesh

Bmaganti 03:02, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Category:Muslim politicians[edit]

ISn't this pov? The Hindu politicians cat was deleted for POV.--Dangerous-Boy 19:27, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

TN CM List[edit]

Why don't you simply untag that citation needed tag? Did anyone specifically asked for that citation? You can untag some of the Justice party citations (presently with superscript 6) - you need not cite everybody, I guess. And also untag that citation needed from KVE Naidu. It's a naughty suggestion, so that when you untag, KVR Naidu does not seem to be the odd man out, with no citation, while all others have citation. You can add citation randomly on that particular list, say, for example, CM no. 1, 4 and 6. In that case, it would appear as if the rest does not require a citation, taken for granted. On the other hand, if you cite everyone but him, Naidu is an eye-catching odd man! Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 06:03, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

See the references related to the political ideologies that we were discussing. -- Sundar \talk \contribs 11:29, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Invitation and Recommendations for writing articles on Hindi Wikipedia[edit]

Hindi wikipedia invites and welcomes Wikipedians to contribute for the cause of spreading knowledge and the Hindi language. This page contains guidelines for writing a wiki-article on any topic at the Hindi Wikipedia, with special recommendations for writing in Hindi (Note: The script/font-family for Hindi is Devanāgari; the script/font-system for English is Roman script, also, the Hindi spelling system is not completely standardized). This article is yet in English language (mostly), in order to encourage even non-native/foreign people who have learnt/are learning Hindi to contribute to the Hindi wikipedia, and native Hindi speakers who normally write in English. The examples given below are only for explanation.

Recommendations:

  1. Firstly for proper viewing, it is recommended to keep all links NOT-UNDERLINED. Otherwise the मात्रा below the Hindi alphabets might get partly hidden behind the underlines. For this, please go to My Preferences (मेरी पसंद) at the top of the page, then click Misc., and then choose "underline links -> Never". Save your settings. Also, do not click yes for "justify paragraphs", otherwise on some browsers, the devanagari script will appear highly distorted.
  2. All users are requested and encouraged to contribute articles here, especially, to create new articles on general topics. They are also encouraged to expand the existing articles, and improve upon them. A non-user can also do the same; it is recommended but not required to register yourself as a wikipedian user at the Hindi wikipedia. As far as possible, each article should be written with a Neutral Point of View (NPOV)—no nationalistic or partiality or hatred based articles are welcome. The articles should be based on facts—and appropriate references should be provided as and where needed. See the English wiki's help page for editing in general. Almost all the general wiki-features are available for editing on Hindi wiki too. Guidelines for the content matter is mostly the same as given in English wiki.
  3. Since the Hindi wiki is at its initial stages, users are welcome to take introduction and basic points from the English (or another) wikipedia's corresponding article and translate them for small articles. An in-page link to the English wiki's article will be deemed sufficient for references (a template might be created stating this). For longer articles, it is recommended to mention the references separately.
  4. Since most computer users in India and elsewhere have the standard Western-type keyboard, it is best recommended (but not necessarily required) to use the virtual (software) keyboard like the one of Hindimozhi or of ISIS (Tavultesoft Keyman)—which are freewares. These are advantageous because the contemporary Hindi-speakers in India often write messages/chat using Hindi words but written in Roman (English) script, and the layout of these keyboards is quite the same that such people use. For example, using the "normal" keyboard with this software, typing ga would give ग and ghaa would give घा.
  5. Create the article with its name written in Hindi (devanagari script). Always take care to include the nukta (dot below) for foreign / Urdu loanwords wherever it occurs in the standard spelling. For non-Indian names, use that spelling (for article name and other words) which is commonly encountered in Hindi newspapers, G.K.-books, Hindi-dubbed TV documentaries and Hollywood films and magazines. e.g., America-अमरीका (या अमेरिका), China-चीन, French-फ़्रांसिसी. For English acronyms/short-forms, use the initials in Roman script, and again create a full form in Hindi and redirect it to the short form. e.g. IPA (अन्तर्राष्ट्रीय ध्वनि वर्णाक्षर); UNO (संयुक्त राष्ट्र संघ). Doing the opposite is also fine. But creating the article with the Hindi short form, as सं०रा०सं०, is not recommended. Also, the article proper must be written with the proper nukta, as फ़ारसी, and then, a non-nukta (mis-)spelt version फारसी should preferably be created to redirect to the correct spelling.
  6. Hindi wikipedia strongly recommends the users to write articles in everyday common Hindi in the खड़ीबोली dialect (Hindustani or Hindi-Urdu, i.e., बोलचाल वाली हिन्दी, which may include many loanwords from Persian and Arabic). The use of शुद्ध संस्कृतनिष्ठ हिन्दी is in general neither required nor recommended. E.g., use: वजह instead of कारण, ख़ास instead of विशेष, वगैरह instead of इत्यादि, लेकिन instead of परन्तु etc. However, for technical and specialized vocabulary, the use of शुद्ध संस्कृतनिष्ठ हिन्दी is recommended and usually mandatory. Thus: upper House of Parliament—संसद का उच्च सदन, but not Urdu—मजिलिस का ऐवान-ए-बाला ; Foreign Minister—विदेशमन्त्री, but not Urdu—वज़ीर-ए-ख़ारिजा ; knowledge/science—ज्ञान/विज्ञान, but not इल्म. Use spoken Hindi's ये and वो instead of यह and वह / वे. Do not use the title of respect जी after names, it is unencyclopedic. Thus: कृष्ण / श्री कृष्ण but not कृष्ण जी. Use the आप form and its corresponding 3rd person verbal conjugation for writing about respectable persons. Thus: श्री वाजपेयी मध्य प्रदेश में जन्मे थे. But not: वाजपेयी मध्य प्रदेश में जन्मा था. But do not use the pronoun "आप" itself in-text in biographies.
  7. English should be used sparingly, only when required; i.e., if the corresponding शुद्ध हिन्दी word is too "difficult and not generally encountered", or if it is a proper name of non-Indian person/place/terminology/title, or if the user is highly unsure of the proper translation. It is recommended (but not required) for English-to-Hindi translation while writing articles, the Shabdkosh online dictionary should be used. For each English word, that alternative should be used which is generally encountered in everyday spoken Hindi, and also fits well into the context. Use of intelligent guesses for newly encountered words is also allowed, and so are translations encountered in Hindi-dubbed TV documentaries, Hollywood films, Hindi-translated books, etc. e.g., दमपिशाच for en:Dementor (used in dubbed HP films).
  8. If used, it is recommended to use the English words within the articles using the English (Roman) alphabets rather than devanagari (or better, the devanagari transliteration should be used in the sentence, followed by the English word in Roman alphabet in parentheses). Such words should be italicized and not put in quotation marks. Preferably, there should be an in-page interwiki link (like :en:) on the word to the English wikipedia. If the word comes as an integral part of a sentence, so as not to break the continuity, the en: prefix should be hidden by writing the word again after the pipe sign (piped link). Thus, recommended: हैरी पॉटर ने ''[[:en:Pensieve|Pensieve]]'' के अन्दर ''[[:en:Little Hangleton|Little Hangleton]]'' गाँव में लॉर्ड वोल्डेमॉर्ट की माँ ''[[:en:Merope Gaunt|Merope Gaunt]]'' को देखा. ''[[:en:Resplendent Quetzal|Resplendent Quetzal]]'' पक्षी के ऊपर एक मेक्सिकन पादरी डा० ''[[:en:Pablo de la Llave|Pablo de la Llave]]'' ने काफ़ी शोध किया था. Whence,
    • हैरी पॉटर ने Pensieve के अन्दर Little Hangleton गाँव में लॉर्ड वोल्डेमॉर्ट की माँ Merope Gaunt को देखा
    • Resplendent Quetzal पक्षी के ऊपर एक मेक्सिकन पादरी डा० Pablo de la Llave ने काफ़ी शोध किया था
  9. Always start the first 1 or 2 lines of the article giving its definition (from any standard dictionary/other wiki) or suitable introduction. Thus, recommended: ललिता सहस्रनामन हिन्दू धर्मसुधारक आदि शंकराचार्य द्वारा रचित देवी दुर्गा को समर्पित एक पूजा-मन्त्र है, जिसे कई हिन्दू रोज़ श्रद्धा से जपते हैं । But not: ललिता सहस्रनामन मन्त्र जपने के लिये लड्डू-पेड़ा, ताम्बुल, सिन्दूर, लाल चुनरी के साथ नित्य इस मन्त्र का पाठ करें, तो जल्द ही गड़ा हुआ ख़जाना मिलेगा । Recommended: वैमानिक अभियान्त्रिकी (en:Aeronautical engineering) विमानों (en:Aircrafts) की अभिकल्पना, निर्माण और प्रचालन करने का विज्ञान, कला और कार्य है । (translated from Eng. Webster's New World Dictionary). But not: आजकल वैमानिक अभियान्त्रिकी के लिये देशभर में कई कॉलेज खुल गये हैं, जिनमें अग्रणी स्थान यूटोपिया स्थित लालू-यादव टेक्लिनक कॉलेज का है ।
  10. For names of countries, cities, places, languages, people, books, films, technical vocabulary, mythology, etc, start the article like this:
    • 1. The name in bold ('''अपोलो''')
    • 2. starting parenthesis, then English name in Roman script, in-page interwiki-linked to English wiki ff. by semicolon ((अंग्रेज़ी : [[:en:Apollo]];)
    • 3. The native name(s) if applicable in the italicized native script, preferably followed either by its italicized approximate Hindi pronunciation or non-italicized phonological transcription within / /, ff. by closed parenthesis (यूनानी : ''Aπollων अपोल्लोन''))
    • 4. the rest of the definition or introduction (प्राचीन [[यूनानी धर्म]] (ग्रीक धर्म) और प्राचीन [[रोमन धर्म]] के सर्वोच्च देवता थे ।) For country names, only the standard short form of the name is needed in the first line. If there is a common name for a difficult word in Hindustani, also mention it. Whence: अपोलो (अंग्रेज़ी : en:Apollo; यूनानी : Aπollων अपोल्लोन) प्राचीन यूनानी धर्म (ग्रीक धर्म) और प्राचीन रोमन धर्म के सर्वोच्च देवता थे । If you don't give the interwiki English/another language link (which would be deemed to be the default reference), then you MUST provide an appropriate reference.
  11. Please leave no article without an appropriate category. See the list of created categories here; you can also make a new category (pref. in Hindi). Please leave no article without at least ONE off page (like en:) interwiki link. E.g., the user can check the article name (say Apollo) on the finally redirected English page and append to the Hindi article ([[en:Appolo]])). These interlanguage links will help a bot to update all interwiki links for that article in all wikipedias. The category and the aforementioned link should be typed at the end of the article. If the article is very small, mention it as a stub/substub.
  12. Use of templates is welcome. See the list of templates here. If creating a template, name it pref. in Hindi.
  13. Use पूर्णविराम ( । ) instead of a period (.) for ending statements. The पूर्णविराम, semicolon, colon and dash (but not comma) must come after one space after the word to prevent ambiguity. Use the international form of the Hindu-Arabic numerals (1,2,3 instead of १,२,३), as used by the Constitution and the Government of India (even for Hindi). There is no need to use the हलन्त at the end of Sanskrit words wherever it occurs. Hence, prefer: संसद over संसद्; अथर्वन over अथर्वन्. Use the proper quotation marks “” from the Insert toolbox, not "". Write dates as 2 मई 2006 (ईसवी or ईसापूर्व). Write time as 3:45 pm. Separate common suffix-words like शास्त्र, विज्ञान, ज्ञान with a hyphen. Thus: रसायन-शास्त्र. For most others, leave both the words of the noun-cluster free. Combine them into one word only if it is very common to do so. Thus: सामवेद.
  14. The use of ज़ for the en:voiced alveolar fricative (/z/, as in zoo, rose) is fundamentally wrong. Its nearest counterpart is the en:voiceless alveolar fricative /s/ (as in sea), and not Hindi ज (en:voiced palatal plosive). Hence, it is suggested and recommended that for the sound /z/, whether it comes in English (etc.) spellings (z) for while pronunciation otherwise, should be transcribed as स़ (स with a dot below, available in the Insert toolbox). Hence: Reason रीस़न, not रीज़न ; Roses रोस़ेस़, not रोज़ेज़. But common Hindi words borrowed from Persian/Arabic (so-called Urdu words) are allowed to continue with ज़ spelling. Thus: ज़रा, नज़र, तर्ज़. The en:voiced postalveolar fricative (/ʒ/ as in treasure), inexistent in Hindi, can similarly be transcribed with श़. Thus: treasure ट्रॅश़र. The nukta (dot) available in the Insert toolbox can be combined with various consonants to suggest a more exact phonetic devanagari rendering of foreign sounds. E.g., since phonetically, English Think and this are not equal to थिंक and दिस, a better transcription could be थ़िंक and द़िस. Please take care of the dot below in so-called Urdu words, otherwise the Hindi spelling is deemed incorrect.
  15. For the following English vowels met, mate, mat, transcribe as मॅट (short vowel), मेट (not मेइट), मैट (not मॅट, as popular in Marathi). However in contemporary Hindi and here, it is acceptable to use ए instead of ऍ. Thus: अमेरिका is more popular than अमॅरिका. For cot, coat, caught, transcribe as कॉट, कोट, कॉट (not कौट). Transcribe English /t/ and /d/ as ट and ड.
  16. Use half-न before त, थ, द, ध, न, instead of anuswaar अं. Use half-म before प, फ, ब, भ, म. Use the anuswaar before all the rest of the consonants (not half-ङ, ञ, ण). If the मात्रा is not above the alphabet, use chandra-bindu, but only for nasalization. Thus: अन्दर, not अंदर ; अन्त, not अंत ; हिन्दी, not हिंदी ; सम्भव, not संभव ; पंचमी, not पञ्चमी ; अंडा, not अण्डा ; कंठ, not कण्ठ ; लैंड, not लैण्ड ; आँख, not आंख. However, both forms are acceptable in contemporary Hindi as well as here; the prec. are just recommendations.
  17. When proceded by another vowel, use the pure vowels instead of य (unless the य is clearly articulated while pronouncing). Thus : जाएँ, not जायें (not जावें) ; आएगा, not आयेगा . However, both forms are acceptable in contemporary Hindi as well as here.
  18. Please pay careful attention to the masculine/feminine gender (and singular/plural) in adjectives and verbs, else the sentence becomes ungrammatical.

For more information/suggestions/criticisms, please contact any one of the administrators of Hindi wiki here, preferably en:User:Magicalsaumy.

This page can also be found here.

Thank you,

Cygnus_hansa 00:19, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, it seems (probably today!) from your userboxes that you don't speak Hindi. Kindly ignore this message, then. Gook luck for your adminshipCygnus_hansa 17:45, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Signpost updated for June 5th.[edit]

The Wikipedia Signpost
Weekly Delivery



Volume 2, Issue 23 5 June 2006

About the Signpost


New revision-hiding feature added Paper profiles Wales, slams Wikipedia business coverage
Meetups And Newsworthy International Assemblages New external tools
News and Notes: Wikimedia board resolutions, milestones Wikipedia in the News
Features and admins Bugs, Repairs, and Internal Operational News
The Report On Lengthy Litigation

Home  |  Archives  |  Newsroom  |  Tip Line

You are receiving this message because you have signed up for the Signpost spamlist. If you wish to stop receiving these messages, simply remove your name from the list.

Your message/mail template[edit]

Just wanted to let you know that I shamelessly copied the message/mail template from your userpage. Thanks, and hope you don't mind. :-) - Cribananda 05:36, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Your message[edit]

Ganesh, I had missed your message. Let me see try to reword that sentence and add something on what happens in the event of a vacancy. I think, there's precedent in MGR's death. Can you try to incorporate the 1950 change in reporting structure pointed out by Anwar? -- Sundar \talk \contribs 13:31, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Correct link[edit]

Nope, the link I provided is correct - the thread starts with Anwar's complaint but other editors feel that he is wrong. The link that you have given is of more recent vintage, where Rama's Arrow tried to get the attention of admins to the fact that Anwar's talkpage still remained the same. --Gurubrahma 17:44, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

thanks for the info[edit]

Thanks.. have been busy.. so taking shortcuts...but will try...Chirag 22:31, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

FARC[edit]

Oh sorry...I can't imagine how I made that mistake...must be a bit tired, OK I'll look at the Hinduism page now. Nobleeagle (Talk) 23:34, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks[edit]

Yay! my first barnstar, feels good Thanks -- PlaneMad|YakYak 15:35, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject India Maps[edit]

Hi! I invite you to join Wikipedia:WikiProject India Maps. =Nichalp «Talk»= 09:42, 10 June 2006 (UTC)