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Other officers who could be women but are not (PM, for example) do not receive a special mention in the ladies' order of precedence. I fail to see why the LHC should be treated differently. -- Emsworth 19:56, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)

British Civil Service[edit]

What is the "various titles" mean? Could you list titles? Reply here please.--212.100.250.209 17:29, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

"Various titles" means just that. Unlike main grades such as Assistant Secretary or Under Secretary, there was no generic title for posts at this level. Grade 4 posts tend to be rare and specialised, existing in specialised areas such as scientists, lawyers, economists or where an unusually large or high profile division merited a higher grade for its head. Not all departments use the new SCS equivalent Band 1A.--George Burgess 11:17, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Sorry to be persistent, but for example? This page (scroll down to "Temporary Secretary") seems to think that Temporary Secretary is one of the names. Also, under "Civil Service" on that page, it thinks that below Principal comes Assistant Principal. Finally, why do no "ranks" below Principal have grade numbers?--62.253.64.17 16:23, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I have never come across a Temporary Secretary, and can find no reference to that grade in any source other than the "Yes Minister" page you refer to. The grade of "Assistant Principal" did exist some years ago (at the time that the "Yes Minister" programmes were first broadcast), as part of the Fast Stream programme to develop around 100 graduate entrants each year. By the early 90's when I joined the Civil Service it had been replaced by grades of Administration Trainee and Higher Executive Officer (Development) [I will add material to the page describing the Fast Stream programme]. The Grades numbered 1 to 7 were part of what was known as the "Open Structure" and were managed nationwide, whilst those below were delegated to individual departments. The boundary between national/local control has now moved up so that only those in the Senior Civil Service are managed nationally. Below the SCS, departments now do their own thing - in the Scottish Executive for example, the old grades from AA to Senior Principal/Grade 6 have now become A1,A2,A3,A4,B1,B2,B3,C1,C2 and C3. The table is a simplification of structures that have evolved over the last 150 years. Until the 1970's, there was a split between Administrative and Executive grades, and there existed a grade of Chief Executive Officer at the same level as Principal - to have a "CEO" half way up the pecking order must have caused great confusion, rather like the many grades of Secretary, none of whom could type.--George Burgess 11:38, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Thanks awfully for your help.--213.18.248.27 12:36, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Sculptors in ordinary[edit]

Nice job adding bios for Sculptor in Ordinary for Scotland. I mostly pieced the list together this morning from google, but I'm not satisfied that it's comprehensive (and I assumed that holders keep the office until death, rather than knowing this for sure). Do you know of any official resource that lists holders? Also, is there an equivalent SiO for England? -- John Fader (talk | contribs) 22:09, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I moved the Sculptor article to Sculptor in Ordinary for Scotland and now moved the similarly named Botanist, Scotland to the title given in the text. But these articles also need a category of some kind, such as Category:Royal Household of Scotland, perhaps? -- Uppland 23:17, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I can't speak for botanist, but I think a category is unnecessary for Sculptor. As there's only five HMSiOfSs, Category:Scottish sculptors should suffice. -- John Fader (talk | contribs) 23:31, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC) Ignore me, it's late and I'm stupid. -- John Fader (talk | contribs) 23:47, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Andes[edit]

Hi George - you just linked Cerro Potosí in the Andes article for a mountain in Bolivia; but the mountain at the page linked to is a different mountain of the same name in Mexico; the Bolivian one will need a new page, something like Cerro Potosí (Bolivia). I don't know anything about the Bolivian peak so won't start any article myself. The Mexican one will also need a disambig line adding. - MPF 22:06, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)

List of MPs[edit]

Hi there, I noticed you've manged to fill in MPs elected in the UK general election, 1966, I was wondering where you got the data from -- Joolz 8 July 2005 13:04 (UTC)

Hey, thanks for the response, I'll add it as a reference -- Joolz 8 July 2005 13:41 (UTC)

Scottish Executive[edit]

Hi George. My understanding was this: The Scottish Executive uses those arms as is printed on all Scottish Acts here, as do UK Acts feature the British Government arms on Acts here. The difference between the Royal Coat of Arms for Scotland and the Scottish Executive's arms is the helm is present on one and not the other, just as is the difference between the Royal Coat of Arms of the United Kingdom and the British Government's Arms. Craigy (talk) 12:48, July 22, 2005 (UTC)

  • UK Arms (with helm)
    UK Arms (with helm)
  • UK Government Arms (no helm)
    UK Government Arms (no helm)
Jumping in few months later, lemme just say that it's wrong to call either set of arms the "government's arms." They're the royal arms, period. Heraldically speaking, the omission of helm and crest is a purely discretionary decision anybody can make when displaying his/her arms. Now it's possible that the govt & scottish executive choose to omit those helms on purpose, as a way of signalling that they're not the queen; it could have some sort of symbolic meaning. But it has no heraldic meaning. Doops | talk 03:45, 16 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Secretary to the Treasury[edit]

Just a note to say that I have seen your recent additions to Secretary to the Treasury and I am quite impressed: do you have access to a comprehensive list? One question: is it possible to add "from" and "to" dates from your source? For example, "Parliamentary Secretaries to the Treasury, 1852–present" currently has:

Assuming they are all consecutive not concurrent, they would be:

But thanks again for your excellent additions. -- ALoan (Talk) 17:36, 17 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Lord Justice General[edit]

My apologies. I did not mean to present my position as being "more correct" it is just that I (wrongly) assumed that given that the Lord Justice General was addressed as Lord President during the Scottish Parliament opening and the induction of the new First Minister (for the Great Seal) that he was now Lord President in the order of precedence... Davidkinnen 19:36, 11 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Procurator Fiscal[edit]

I hadn't noticed the message, but I had created a Procurator Fiscal page... or at least it should have been created. Davidkinnen 18:25, 23 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Scottish Wikipedians' notice board[edit]

Hi. Here is a new notice board that may be of interest. Here's shortcut: WP:SCOWNB.

Ta re Scots law info.--Mais oui! 19:05, 24 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

List of prizes, medals, and awards[edit]

Hi, your edits to this page state that Sweden awards the order of the "Porth star". Is this a typo ? Perhaps you meant North star ? Manik Raina 06:31, 27 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Order of Victoria and Albert[edit]

You added to the Order of Victoria and Albert page that no awards were given out after the death of Queen Victoria. According to the Titles_and_Honours_of_Queen_Elizabeth_II she became the Sovereign of the Order in 1952. Is this just because the order was never officially scrapped ? Dowew 06:47, 4 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Are you certain the order didn't give any privilages, even post-nominal letters ? I only ask because I was research the former Governor General's of Canada and one of the pages for the vice-regal consort Maud Petty-FitzMaurice, Marchioness of Lansdowne lists the postnominals VA, although it also lists the Order of St. John which is obviously incorrect. Dowew 11:19, 4 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Members of the Order were entitled to use the post-nominal letters VA, but this is neither a rank nor a title - rather like the Order of the Companions of Honour. I will add a reference to the post-nominal letters to the article.--George Burgess 13:59, 4 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Scotland- sewel motions[edit]

I am surprised that employment protection is not a devolved matter. It does explain the lack of a sewel motion though. I have just removed the Private Members Bill sentence then, since it is not really relevant now. Thanks for updating me. Astrotrain 22:55, 7 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Dumbarton Burghs[edit]

I did restore most of the deleted material, but it may be both articles need some improvement. I thought it was a bad merge with Dumbarton (UK Parliament constituency) since, in spite of similar names, they did not correspond very closely with each other, althought they did both include the town of Dumbarton the majority of the one constituency was not in the other, and vice versa, although this might not be obvious to anyone who does not know the geography of the area. PatGallacher 19:37, 8 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks for your note and correction. You're quite right that I made a simple mistake on the Stirling Burghs infobox. Best wishes, Warofdreams talk 10:12, 18 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Lord Hacking[edit]

Hello, do you have a source on Lord Hacking being created a baronet? Mackensen (talk) 00:26, 13 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you, and have a wiki wiki day! BD2412 T 04:07, 17 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Secretary (disambiguation)[edit]

I have replied to your note at my Talk page. Ta.--Mais oui! 15:17, 25 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Charles Arthur Uryan Rhys, 8th Baron Dynevor[edit]

Good afternoon. I was just wondering what the thinking was behind your latest change to the OBE link in Charles Arthur Uryan Rhys, 8th Baron Dynevor. I did not want to revert that change as there may be a good reason that I've missed. Avalon 02:37, 1 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I was insufficiently clear. I agree with your intent. However, if you look at the page you appear to have deleted the pipe "|" so as to link to Order of the British EmpireOBE. I assumed and still assume that this is a simple error that anyone might make. However, I just thought I'd check before I changed it. Avalon 13:02, 1 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Scottish Royal Household[edit]

Sorry about that. I thought that the Scottish Lord High Constable of Scotland and so forth were directly equivalent to the English Great Officers of State which have the same names (which are not in the Household), which people keep confusing with the English Household officers (which have similar names). I will revert my edits and then leave Scotland alone. Thanks for pointing that out. Richard75 19:01, 20 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Marchmont Herald[edit]

Thanks for your additions to the Scottish heraldry pages. Well done.--Evadb 07:28, 23 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

WatchlistBot[edit]

My bot is tagging all articles (with supervision, since some subcategories are not actually about exonumia) under Category:Exonumia with {{Exonumianotice}}, just as basically all articles under Category:Numismatics are tagged with {{Numismaticnotice}}. This helps people find the project, and allows us to create a project watchlist. Is Dean of the Thistle not exonumia? Exonumia is not my area of expertise, so if you have some advice about what to tag and what to skip, I'd appreciate it. Ingrid 13:09, 3 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

List of Baronetcies[edit]

You addition of many Baronetcies of Nova Scotia is wonderful, but they should be on the List of Baronetcies article, not on the Baronetage of Nova Scotia article, which is meant to be only extant (or dormant) baronetcies (look at Baronetage of the United Kingdom or Baronetage of England for example). The List of baronetcies article is meant to have all baronetcies ever created on, and all your work would be a wonderful addition. --Berks105 09:50, 24 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I see nothing on the Baronetage of Nova Scotia page to indicate that it should only include extant or dormant baronetcies, nor that the List of Baronetcies should include extant, dormant and extinct. If anything, it should be the other way round, with the fuller listing on the separate pages (England, Nova Scotia etc.) and only the extant (and possibly dormant) ones on the List of Baronetcies page, which is already at 150KB and pretty unwieldy. The intention behind my removal of the limited entries on the List of Baronetcies page was to draw the reader to the fuller, albeit still incomplete, information on the Nova Scotia page. I'll leave it to others to decide what goes where, and concentrate on getting the basic information onto the Nova Scotia page as time and enthusiasm permit.--George Burgess 13:42, 24 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This is the opening line of the List of Baronetcies page "This page lists all baronetcies, extant, extinct, dormant (D), unproven (U), under review (R), abeyant, or forfeit, in the baronetages of England, Nova Scotia, Great Britain, Ireland and the United Kingdom". Whether it should be the other way round is not the point, look at the other Baronetage pages, listed are only the extant ones; a similar system is in place for the Peerages page. --Berks105 13:47, 24 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have now arranged the pages so they are set out how they should the others are, its best they all follow the same pattern. Baronetage of Nova Scotia now only has extant baronetcies on (as do the other baronetage pages), while the List of baronetcies page has all your work on all Nova Scotia baronetcies on it (in numberical order not alphatical but otherwise exactly the same). --Berks105 20:36, 24 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The List of baronetcies page may be intended to list "all" baronetcies, but at the moment it clearly does not. While it was obvious from the previous Baronetage of Nova Scotia page that the list only covered from A to H, the new arrangement by year disguises that. Some warning needs to be added to make it clear that the lists are only partial.--George Burgess 21:35, 24 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have now made it clear on the List of baronetcies page that it does not currently contain all baronetcies. Hopefully at some point it will! --Berks105 15:40, 25 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Age of Consent in Scotland[edit]

OK, I reintroduced the stuff about the Sewel convention. I was probably a little hasty in removing it so I apologise. Does my revision look OK to you now?

High Constable[edit]

Well the ceremonial itself uses High Constable of Scotland.Alci12 21:47, 17 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

MPs elected in the United Kingdom general election, 1924[edit]

For some reason I ended up at this page and saw that there seems to be no Conservatives and lots of Unionist MPs, was this a temporary name change or is something amiss? (I forgot to sign) Rex the first talk | contribs 23:21, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Re Unionist v Conservative. The party designation is as given in the source quoted, a contemporary almanac. This description is probably influenced by the fact that the Conservative organisation in Scotland at the time was the Scottish Unionist Party rather than the Conservative Party as in England. That the Almanac has picked up contemporary Scottish terminology rather than that currently used (see reference at Conservative Party (UK) to the Party's formal title and the common description of it and its allies as "Unionist" during the early part of the 20th century) is simply a reflection of its Scottish origin. There is therefore no problem with the article - references to Unionist can be interpreted as Conservative if you wish.--George Burgess 20:58, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Cheers, I know nothing about it but saw that in both elections either side (1929 and 1923) there was no Unionist. Thanks for your reply! Rex the first talk | contribs 09:37, 20 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Attorney General for Ireland[edit]

Could you double-check your source for "R. Green", supposedly appointed September 21 1842? The date is out of sequence, and I suspect there's confusion with Richard Wilson Greene, Solicitor-General for Ireland November 1 1842. Thanks. Choess 23:26, 29 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Names and dates were simply taken from Conservative Government 1841-1846, where the dates are also out of sequence. The source for that is given as C. Cook and B. Keith, British Historical Facts 1830-1900, but I do not have access to that publication.George Burgess 09:58, 30 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

RE:Dick Douglas[edit]

Hi George. Thanks for that, it was actually another Richard Douglas that was listed and I added the CB to the incorrect one. Thanks Craigy (talk) 20:46, 3 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Lord Advocate[edit]

Lahta math. I haven't amended them to that header as judges, but as Law Officers. I imagined the header for all those offices, that are connected to the judicial system - would it maybe be better to rename it from 'Judiciary Offices' to 'Law Offices' ? Phoe 20:02, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Conservative or Unionist party tags in Scotland[edit]

Just added this discussion to the Wikipedia talk:WikiProject UK Parliament constituencies page. Any input from yourself would be greaty appreciated. Thanks. Galloglass 12:14, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Goronwy Roberts[edit]

Sorry, I should have given warning that I was in the process of merging the two articles before I did the redirect. Deb 22:05, 19 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Labour Government 1945-1951[edit]

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Re: Jesse Collings[edit]

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Lord Clyde[edit]

Hi, since you have created the articles about James Clyde, Lord Clyde and James Clyde, Lord Clyde (1863-1944), I would like to ask you, whether it would not be better to disambiguate them by their second name? (James Latham Clyde, Lord Clyde and James Avon Clyde, Lord Clyde). This would also help to avoid confusions with James Clyde, Baron Clyde. Greetings ~~ Phoe talk 09:15, 22 November 2006 (UTC) ~~ [reply]

Heya, for your information: the moves are done, the links are corrected and I have redirected James Clyde, Lord Clyde to the disambiguation page James Clyde. Greetings and thanks for the expansion. ~~ Phoe talk 16:42, 27 November 2006 (UTC) ~~ [reply]

Privy Seal[edit]

In May you placed a succession stub on Richard Maitland. I have not looked it up but it seems unlikely to me that it is correct. It states that after Richard Maitland the next Keeper of the Privy Seal was the Duke of Lauderdale. But surely the gap is too great? Is someone missing here. David Lauder 16:48, 11 December 2006 (UTC).[reply]

I see Kittybrewster has corrected that. Thanks. David Lauder 09:59, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Lord Justice General[edit]

I am trying, with some difficulty, to find when the post of Lord Justice General was formally constituted. Can you offer me a book source? David Lauder 09:57, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Picture[edit]

By chance I found an image of Sir Alexander Sprot Bt., which I have now added to the article you wrote. Regards, David Lauder 08:32, 6 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Works in progress[edit]

Works in progress, if at an early stage of development (eg. lacking complete sentences) should not be placed in the main article space.

Instead, please work on them in your own subpages, and only "release" them into the main space when of an acceptable quality.

I would suggest that if Duncan Vernon Pirie is still at an early stage, you should really have it at User:George Burgess/Duncan Vernon Pirie. But too late now in that particular example.

Ta. --Mais oui! 11:44, 21 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Secretary of State[edit]

I cannot find any reference which gives the pre-Union Secretary of Scotland as "Secretary of State for Scotland" or "Secretary of State, Scotland". The several references I have merely cite him as "Secretary" or "Secretary of Scotland". I am of the view that the titles of these pages need to be carefully reviewed if they are to be correct.. I have left one authoritative reference on the Talk page of Secretary of State, Scotland. Regards, David Lauder 11:21, 2 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

My comments related principally to the post-1885 offices of Secretary for Scotland and Secretary of State for Scotland, the titles of which articles are certainly correct.--George Burgess 13:19, 2 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I am not really questiong the titles, rather the page headings. I have looked in numerous books I have here and I cannot locate any pre-Union Secretary of State, Scotland, and therefore it seems to me that article page heading is just wrong. My feeling is that page should be Secretary of Scotland. I would be extremely surprised, for instance, if Scotstarvit got it wrong! Regards, David Lauder 13:28, 2 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Directorates[edit]

Hi I was wondering if you could help me as you know with the abolishion of the Scottish Executive Departments most of the articles relating to them are out of date, for example the Scottish Executive Education Department is now Children,Young People and Social Care Directorate, Schools Directorate Lifelong Learning Directorate, ect but rather than having an article for each of them do you know what they would be grouped togher as such as a Smarter Scotland article ? dealing with them all thanks. --Barryob Vigeur de dessus 19:58, 2 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Pudsey (UK Parliament constituency)[edit]

Hi, Could you check your sources? The 1885 constituency can't have included the whole of the Municipal borough of Leeds - perhaps some specified part of it? Leeds was represented by 5 constituencies, not including Pudsey. PamD (talk) 23:23, 2 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

And is that Rawdon, West Yorkshire rather than Rawden? PamD (talk) 23:34, 2 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have checked my sources (www.justis.com), and what I have provided is a direct quote from the Seventh Schedule to the Act (Counties at Large). The Burgh constituencies, including the 5 Divisions for Leeds, are contained in the Sixth Schedule. It may be that areas already comprised in a Burgh constituency are excluded from the County constituencies, but I can see no provisions of the Act to that effect. Otherwise, there may be some particularity to the term "county at large" which has this effect. As for "Rawden/Rawdon", I have used the term given in the 1885 Act - I see that by the 1918 Act, Rawdon is used. However a search of the online Hansard system at www.hansard.millbanksystems.com generates a number of hits for Rawden from the 1830s to 1880s, so it may have been an accepted spelling at the time. I will retain the 1885 spelling, but provide a link.--George Burgess (talk) 14:31, 3 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

List of Stewards of the Chiltern Hundreds[edit]

Thanks for your edits here; as you can see it is a project I've put quite a lot of effort into (I got its sister list up to Featured status a while back). Could you provide references for the additions to the 'rationale for leaving' column? They're needed for it to pass the Featured criteria. Ironholds (talk) 14:36, 24 January 2009 (UTC) Material is sourced from the articles on the individuals concerned, and is referenced there--George Burgess (talk) 16:09, 25 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Glasgow Govan[edit]

Thanks for the correction. You can possibly see how a copy and paste policy doesn't always go hitch free :) doktorb wordsdeeds 10:57, 4 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Robert Boyd[edit]

I believe that what you added Robert Boyd, 4th Lord Boyd and Robert Boyd, 5th Lord Boyd, but they should really be the 3rd and 4th respectively. I ran into this in the course of adding the Dictionary of National Biography entry for the latter at Wikisource. Eclecticology (talk) 20:38, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I saw this in passing I will have more to say about it on talk:Robert Boyd, 4th Lord Boyd. -- PBS (talk) 20:42, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

List of overweight actors in United States cinema[edit]

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Attribution for 2005[edit]

I have been working on an article on an article about Lord Carr, I noticed that his fathers article Robert Carr, 1st Earl of Ancram had a template asking for references. Some of the sentences seemed to be rather old fashioned so I did a Google book search and it turns out it is a copy from "A biographical dictionary of eminent Scotsmen", by Robert Chambers (1840). So I have now attributed the text.

Looking at the history of the showed that the initial text was copied into Wikipedia to create the article 8 June 2005. by you. Unfortunately our Wikipedia:Plagiarism guideline was not developed so there was no reason why you should have attributed it.

I had a quick look at you edit history around that date and it is clear that you were very busy. Do you have a list of the articles you have created and the sources you used to create them? -- PBS (talk) 09:02, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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I have copyright concerns as well with Kenneth Leighton, which seems to have been heavily based on the cited source. Moderator of the General Assembly of the Church of Scotland seems to have been copied largely from [1]. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 15:38, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
In addition to these three articles which are currently blanked, I have removed evidently copied content from two more: Royal College of Physicians of Edinburgh and John Home Robertson (details are at the talk pages of both). I am concerned that these five articles suggest you may have misunderstood the Wikimedia Foundation's approach to importing previously published text. I have requested clerk review at the Contributor Copyright Investigation board to determine if further review of your contributions would be beneficial. Any assistance you can provide in clarifying the copyright of this content would be appreciated. More information about the CCI process can be found here. Please let me know if you have any questions; I'll be watchlisting your talk page for a time. Thank you. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 16:38, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your note at my talk page. Based on it, though, I do wonder if you are misunderstanding the purpose of CCI. Though the copyright policy is substantially the same as they were in 2005, the approach to handling copyright concerns certainly has evolved considerably. The goal of this relatively new process is simply to identify content that may represent a concern under copyright policies so that it can be removed or rewritten. We will not be concentrating exclusively on any period of your edits, though of course we would want to concentrate more heavily on those edits where confusion may have existed. That, obviously, would be more likely where we would find content that needs to be addressed.
In your note you say, "...in relation to which you consider there is a copyright violation". Though I may misunderstand what you mean by that, it would seem to suggest that you might not agree that the content is a concern under our copyright policy. I can well imagine that you might not have been familiar with that policy in 2005, to which year so far all copyright concerns I've found have dated, but I hope that you do realize now the problems that may be represented by content such as this, which you added here:

In 1795, the Duke stripped the woodlands around Drumlanrig Castle and Neidpath Castle in Peebleshire, to find money for a dowry for Maria Fagniani, whom he fancied was his daughter, when she married the Earl of Yarmouth. This action incurred the immediate wrath of Burns, and the later wrath of Wordsworth. Burns was said to have inscribed his Verses on the Destruction of the Woods near Drumlanrig on the back of a window shutter in an inn or toll house near the scene of the devastations. In this poem, the wandering poet meets the 'genius of the stream', and asks if the destruction has been caused by some 'bitter Eastern blasts', but is told....

This differs from the source only in the removal of a parenthetical remark and some superficial punctuation. There are other passages that duplicate or closely follow the source. Of course, as I noted above, if you can verify that this content is compatibly licensed, there will be no lingering copyright concerns with this material. But, if the material is copyrighted (as we must presume, by policy, unless we can verify otherwise), it constitutes a problem under our policy on Wikipedia:Copyright violations. We cannot import or even closely paraphrase copyrighted materials, except in brief, clearly marked excerpts as set forth at non-free content policy and guideline. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 20:24, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for clarifying. I assumed that this reflected an older issue, not a current misunderstanding, but wanted to be sure. The investigation has been opened here. CCI is a process designed to be low drama and low key. It is a slow process because we have quite the backlog and a small volunteer pool to work on it. Generally speaking, there is a brief flurry of activity and then nothing for a while. You'll want to watchlist it if you'd like to follow actions. It may be some time before all the articles are cleared.

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I wanted to let you know that I have tagged the page as having some issues to fix, as a part of our page curation process and note that:-

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Boleyn (talk) 14:59, 28 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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