User talk:Gerda Arendt

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Hope is precious and great joy is found in living[edit]

Thank you for the sapphire—cornflower blue is a color of some significance to me. In the maelstrom that Wikipedia can sometimes be, remember these words from Ode to Joy:

   Wem der große Wurf gelungen,
   Eines Freundes Freund zu sein,
   Wer ein holdes Weib errungen,
   Mische seinen Jubel ein!
   Ja, wer auch nur eine Seele
   Sein nennt auf dem Erdenrund!
   Und wer's nie gekonnt, der stehle
   Weinend sich aus diesem Bund! 

Walk lightly and remain yourself, above the fray. StaniStani  09:20, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

Thank you, it helps to open my shop again. - I sang the words last year, here, helping. The blue colour is also of significance to me. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:28, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
shop open --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:43, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Yay  :-)     — (talk) 03:16, 21 January 2014 (UTC)


I'm so glad to see you still around Gerda, and still promoting kindness and love. Every day you share your gift of life, of music, of thought, of acceptance, of tolerance, and of love. I know you are born of the great country of Germany, and in many ways I share that heritage. I was born and raised in the US; but I thought I might share this with you because the whole idea makes me think of you:

Ched :  ?  05:33, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

my gift to you. — Ched :  ?  05:44, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
Je suis Charlie.svg
Born 1957 (age 57–58)
Residence USA
Other names User:Chedzilla
Thank you, Ched. - Is this what you requested? (And what I hesitate to put on your user page, afraid of another round of arb enforcement) - I found no parameter for gender=male in {{infobox person}}.
"This little light of mine" was regularly sung at a Sunday Gospel Brunch, by a gospel group lead by an enormous woman (enormous both in body and spirit), and the restaurant guests, children only in the first verse, - thanks for bringing back lovely memories!
Je suis - I follow the one who quoted "The only real nation is humanity", pictured on top and (because I sometimes change) here, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:07, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
  • Yep - exactly what I wanted. Thank you very much Gerda. I will have a look at articles soon. — Ched :  ?  17:42, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
    • Hey Ched, where you been? Good to see you. - Dank (push to talk) 17:56, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for great work on the structure and sources of Bach's Mass in B minor![edit]

I don't know the best way or place to write to you to thank you. (There is a heart icon that links to a way to send appreciation, but I don't understand it.) So, this is where I am thanking you for all the work on the sources of the movements of the mass, etc. After making a few edits today, I saw the history and see all you have done to create (I think) and improve this page. Thanks!! A Bach-lover...David Couch (talk) 08:34, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

Thank you. My promised article. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:43, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

A well-deserved barnstar[edit]

Mensch5.png The Barnstar of Integrity
Gerda, for your ceaseless efforts across the project to recognize and encourage civility, goodwill, and all manner of useful contributions -- and just generally to foster a collegial and warm atmosphere -- I hope you will accept this barnstar. I had considered giving you the Random Acts of Kindness star or the PumpkinSky Prize, but (unsurprisingly) I find they've already been awarded, so I've settled on this option, fresh and just as appropriate as it is. All my best. Snow talk 03:34, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

The "notorious infoboxes criminal" accepts with delight! I was planning to write on Geh aus, mein Herz, und suche Freud today (my mom's favourite song on her birthday) which is about seeking joy, - now joy just comes ;) - Thank you, made my day! (I still plan to expand the article, it's not too obvious anyway that it's about actively seeking joy when you don't see any.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:45, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

Well, geteilte Freude ist doppelte Freude, as the old chestnut goes -- and it's always nice in particular to share it with someone who so exemplifies that perspective. But regardless of the source, I hope the day brings you more joy still.  :) Snow talk 10:47, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
Enjoyable hike so far! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:41, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

Roth and Fowles, epitaphs and graves[edit]

Hi Gerda. Do you remember what I said here? I took a long time to upload that image for the Ernst Roth article. Now I've finally managed to do the same for the Leonard N. Fowles article. It being a musical subject and both having epitaphs related to that, I thought you might appreciate a note about this. On another note, I mentioned decay of graves in that comment back in January 2014, and you can see for yourself the difference in the condition of the graves if you look at the articles: William Birdwood, 1st Baron Birdwood, Ernst Roth, Francis Francis (writer), Herbert Edgar Weston, Frederick James Camm, Leonard N. Fowles, Laurence Oliphant (author), Joseph Jackson Howard, Edward Stanley Gibbons. Carcharoth (talk) 10:06, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

Thank you! - Brief, on vacation, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:18, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

(whistle- imagine the sound file)[edit]

Nachtigall (Luscinia megarhynchos)-2.jpg Nightingale Award
For the singing, feeding and cheering you do,

at-tending to all of us, birds of many feathers.

Wuerzele (talk) 09:11, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

"... die hochbegabte Nachtigall / ergötzt und füllt mit ihrem Schall / Berg, Hügel, Tal und Felder" - thank you, delighful composition! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:40, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

User:Gerda Arendt/Davenbelle[edit]

What exactly is User:Gerda Arendt/Davenbelle? Obviously you're not banned. Oiyarbepsy (talk) 17:35, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

Obviously that is not my user page. Why do you change other users' pages and ask them questions about them? - In a good mood, I answer that he took my lead image and made an admirable entry: "I'm a new user on Wikipedia. I'm proceeding cautiously, but will carefully consider and comments or criticism that comes my way" which I take care to remember. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:22, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
ps: better redirect a user page to the talk instead of the other way round, because others may want to add to the talk. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:25, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

One happy editor[edit]

Dear Gerda, - I want to thank you, so much, for naming me an "awesome Wikipedian" for my work on the Mark Satin biography, and for giving me my day! As you may know, the article was "Today's featured article" on the Main Page that day, and I (with others' help) have had to spend all my Wikipedia time since then digging out from under various malicious edits and inappropriate edits. Receiving the award when I did made these last 10 days much more bearable for me.

I would love to put news of the award on my talk page! I've done so in the text, but I would prefer doing so with a Userbox, particularly if it has that gorgeous blue sapphire on it. Is there one? I'll watch this space for your reply. - Babel41 (talk) 04:21, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

There is a box, further down on the awards list, created by the earlier givers. There is no one with the sapphire, - the square box would not match the designer's ideas. Create something?
Yogo2783 Close crop.JPG
This user has been identified as an Awesome Wikipedian on (insert date with link).
I dropped the "their own day" because that was true only the first year, and I don't like "his or her" anyway ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:19, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
Yes, and "their own day" may be too, um, precious to boot. But I love the box above and as you'll see, I simply linked the "Awesome Wikipedian" phrase in it to the PumpkinSky Prize page, which appears to go from 2012 right up to the present. I hope that's not stepping on any toes. - Babel41 (talk) 06:53, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
Thank you, good idea. I made it an inline link. We'll see about the toes ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:01, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

The Non Barnstar[edit]

Barnstars are well intended but for my taste they are a little too impersonal; sort of like a store-bought greeting card versus a handwritten letter. So I am taking this opportunity to say that Wikipedia is a better place because you are here. I wish you all the best. PS: Have you ever sung Berg's Altenberg Lieder? I think maybe it is not quite your style of music but I find the pieces hauntingly beautiful, and the words are simple but profound. Short Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 03:53, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for the lovely musical note! No, I didn't sing those songs, nor even know them (yet), - I like simple but profound! - Did you know that "you" are mentioned on my user page, sort of? Look for laugh ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:03, 26 January 2015 (UTC)


Recent research has revealed you to be one of the kindest editors. (Citation to follow.) All the best: Rich Farmbrough01:52, 6 February 2015 (UTC).

The toxic personality thanks you ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:33, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
Here is the citation. All the best: Rich Farmbrough01:11, 8 February 2015 (UTC).

the blue stone[edit]

Dear Gerda, Thankyou for the anniversary message and the fanfare (that's a good article) - the stone, like the music, has a seraphic clarity and spiritual warmth. Just what one needs in these cruel months of the year. I have been reading the psalms in Latin, with St Augustine's comments, and am amazed. Also Jeremy Irons's Four Quartets (Eliot) (Radio 4 broadcast) is still reverberating - that dude is right on the vibe. So we are rather off in our own world, and loving it! ;) kind regards Eebahgum (talk) 22:08, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

thank you - reverberating Halelu-hu ... - from Jenkin's Gloria ... loving it! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:11, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Always watching[edit]

There's a few things I don't know.

Like how you know what to watch, or where.

But there's one thing I do know. If you didn't exist we'd be poorer. Much poorer.

Thanks Gerda. (everyone else can wonder, or work it out, or ask, or fail to care...).

You're still awesome. That makes me smile. And it always will. Take care.

Begoontalk 13:20, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

I am close to 20k pages on my watchlist, easy answer: the precious and the banned and especially those who are both. - Thanks for placing me in the cat with no permission to remove, - I would have removed ;) - --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:43, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
I know you would have. That's why I told you that you couldn't. Face-smile.svg Begoontalk 04:27, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, Gerda![edit]

Heartfelt thanks for your gracious note!
I suppose that another way to comment about the "curtains" argument would be to say: "Curtains conceal, infoboxes reveal."
Orwell does indeed offer a number of good recommendations for writing, which I try to keep in mind when I write and edit.
As one contributes to Wikipedia, one hopes that someone, somewhere will understand what one has written and will perhaps find it useful.
It was gratifying to hear from you.
I'll look for your work.
Thank you. Nihil novi (talk) 04:08, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
Thank you - I will remember and quote "Curtains conceal, infoboxes reveal." and give credit to you - for good news in an indifferent universe ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:36, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Geh aus, mein Herz, und suche Freud[edit]

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 01:02, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

Original Barnstar Hires.png The Original Barnstar
Original and best :) In ictu oculi (talk) 04:10, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Joy! said --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:09, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

I woke up,[edit]

fell out of bed and didn’t even drag a comb across my head, but instead, headed for my computer and wikipedia. You can not imagine (as if I really know anything about your imagination) how good it felt to receive your note and gem. Last night a brother and I had been trying to track down a star sapphire ring of my mother’s and although we were not successful finding that, yours on my desktop this a.m. seems . . …. significant. Your summation of my wikipedia career was impressive and insightful and yes, I will miss TParis. I also realize that looking at your user page almost prompted me to launch into my life story, but I won’t. Thank you again for your jewel, Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 19:26, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

I think I can imagine because I still remember the feeling when I was honoured, - you saw it on my user page. My life stories - well, the notable parts - are linked from "memories", DYK? I miss the photographer of the gem, and the designer of the award, and many more, but the list of the Precious is much longer, - it's my way to retain myself ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:34, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

thank you![edit]

Oh, thank you for the hypnotic blue jewel and the PumpkinSky Prize you left on my desk when I wasn't looking. Very thoughtful and encouraging, especially coming from somebody with her Herz an der richtigen Stelle. Vielen dank! Lockley (talk) 18:13, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

Lockley , you are still alive ! I heard that, . . . . . . . . . . . . . .................. no wait, that was someone else. Still nice to meet you in this warm neutral setting. Carptrash (talk) 19:37, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

Thank you[edit]

cos LessHeard vanU (talk) 09:49, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

I take any blame ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:05, 17 March 2015 (UTC)


I would give you an award but I don't know how. Thank you for your tireless work on Twitchell. So glad we got the photo reinstated. Thank you for the beaucoup edits you have made on behalf of the Women's History Month overview. Thanks for reviewing so many of my DYK. The list is endless. I appreciate you. SusunW (talk) 01:47, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

I love the prose rewards, see under blushing above ;) - It's lovely to work with you, just looking at the photos of women you uploaded is uplifting, so are the nice infoboxes you give your articles, and the stories you have to tell! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:52, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
The Angel Heart Barnstar The Angel Heart Barnstar
I appreciate all that you do. Random acts of kindness make the world a better place. It is hard being a newbie but it is much better when there are people supporting you and helping you along the way. SusunW (talk) 14:09, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
You found a good one ;) - You are an inspiration to others, did you know? Want to join the cabal? Half of the active members are female ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:29, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

The Bettina von Arnim Award[edit]

The Bettina von Arnim Award
Thank you for being an inspiration to others. Keep up the good work.
— Maile (talk)

Thank you. Do you know that I seriously thought about needing a break today? This helps to overcome. Forgive me for placing her right to look "in" ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:23, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Wir danken dir, Gott, wir danken dir, BWV 29[edit]

Coffee // have a cup // beans // 12:02, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

About your comments etc.[edit]

Hi Gerda

Thanks for the award! I think you might have wondered what I've been up to recently, it might not be very clear. Well I've worked mainly on the help system, created a couple of pages (Help:Table/HTML_and_tables and Wikipedia:Template messages/Examples), and recently updated Template:ArbCom navigation.

Well I've noticed you around as well. Looking at your user pages it's clear to me that you're a legend here, and sorting out awards is admirable.

I was thinking about what you said on the noticeboard, and was meaning to reply. I don't think you can blame yourself for what happened to Dreadstar really. In my opinion he was showing clear signs of stress. For example, misunderstanding what MB had meant, and then sending that e-mail. And as I said before, I think his unblocking of MB was just so he could exit WP once and for all, as I think he knew it would lead to his desysopping. He'd had enough of it all, and who can blame him? I think WP can be stressful at times, as well as rewarding. Maybe his stress was WP related, in which he's probably best out. But if it isn't then I'm not sure there is much we can do. Having said that, maybe he'll want to return at some point, but he'd have to go through RfA again to get admin status, so I'm not too sure about that.

But anyway, that's my opinion on things, which may or may not be correct! All the best. --Mrjulesd (talk) 13:08, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for your thoughtful message. I am sorry that I didn't make clear that I was sarcastic taking the blame (all blame). I said so but perhaps in too hidden a corner. Dreadstar was with me for years and knows that I was sarcastic. He did the right thing, but "out of process". (MB is unblocked.) I said that also. Perhaps you saw on my userpage that I dedicated the article in question to him. You are right that we can't do anything to make him return, but we can do what you did: contradicting people who blame him. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:41, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for your reply. Well I'm glad to hear that really. That explains things a bit better. Anyway, speak later. --Mrjulesd (talk) 00:39, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
Singing first, happy Easter! The closest I came to see resurrection here was this, "Thank you for stepping forward for what's right and for everyone!" Worth living for, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:56, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
Indeed! I hope you enjoy your music. Happy Easter to you and all your watchers. --Mrjulesd (talk) 12:02, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the thank[edit]

Thanks for the thank for my Casino Royale edit. Too bad it was undone. :( Popcornduff (talk) 10:03, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

"brutal torture" --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:07, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Gerechtigkeitsspirale[edit]

PanydThe muffin is not subtle 14:31, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

Marga Schiml discography[edit]

Greetings, dear Gerda! I'd like to reoccupy my sandbox fairly soon for other work-in-progress, and if you would be kind enough to copy and paste the table from there to wherever you want it you will make an old man very happy. Tim riley talk 18:45, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

You can do that whenever you like, I will know to find it in the history, - you seem not to delete in between. - How do you like the DYK above? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:56, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
Of course! Silly of me. Shall do. Your skill in the English WP (as in the DYK above) never ceases to amaze and impress me – and make me feel ashamed of my own uselesness in any other language than my own. Tim riley talk 19:16, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
The language in the above DYK is a little bit of mine, mostly of the original anonymous poet, and with great help from several thinkers, on the talk page, this thought pool, and by the DYK polishers, - summed up: the collaboration I love. As said already, you have to read the poem to the end: "praise the right thing". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:42, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

Britten Sinfonietta[edit]

Sinfonietta (which I've just created) doesn't seem to be included in {{Benjamin Britten|state=collapsed}}, which I included in that article. Is that important? What, if anything, do I need to do?
I own Carpenter's and Evans' books, so am well placed to create articles on Britten's less well-known works. (No articles yet for The Poet's Echo or Sechs Hölderlin-Fragmente? I'll see what I can do.
"Einstmals in einem tiefen Tal ..." Narky Blert (talk) 00:20, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for what you do! In former times, the navboxes had red links, but there were people eager not to have them. So, whenever you add a new one, go on the navbox, click on the little "E" in the upper left corner (E for Edit, I assume), and add it, with a year. - If you compare Missa Brevis (Britten) or A Boy was Born, you see another feature you may want to add to the articles. I remember singing The Company of Heaven, with pleasure! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:00, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

ps: or look at the composition below ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:10, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

Vielen Dank! Das wird ich mal probieren!. Für heute - The Poet's Echo. Narky Blert (talk) 23:38, 24 April 2015 (UTC)


You don't miss much do you! Thanks! Michael --Michael Goodyear (talk) 16:08, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

I only miss people ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:10, 26 April 2015 (UTC)


I don't believe it is standard actually, or at least I couldn't find any rules backing that up. Closest thing I could find is Help:Interlanguage_links#Inline_links, which seems back and forth on the idea. Personally, I do not like these types of links because users expect to click something and read about it in English. There is no clue in your version whether or not these new links will go to a English-langauge article, or a foreign language one which is only useful if you can speak that said language.

So for now I won't revert my edit, let's talk about it and figure it out, unless there are some other rules I'm missing. Andrzejbanas (talk) 17:02, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

I don't live by rules. I see many advantages of {{ill}} over a simple red link (which it replaced):
  • It offers the same red link, so there is no disadvantage.
  • It shows in small letters that there is a link to a different language, in this case "(de)" for German.
  • People not able to read German get at least the information that the person is notable in the German Wikipedia.
  • Anybody able to read German can get information by clicking on the little red link.
  • Truly helpful people go to the German Wikipedia and start an article in English, which replaces the red link by a normal blue one.
  • For the truly helpful person, it's easier to have the link to the other language ready, - compared to a search if there is one.
The article is shown on the Main page now, and I would really love to see it its best - and perhaps find some of those truly helpful people, such as Dr. Blofeld, - please go back to that version, adding "Weimar Republic". - Here's an example which would profit from an article in English: Charivari (ornament) (de). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:17, 26 April 2015 (UTC)
Compare Cläre Jung and other articles of project Germany, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:37, 26 April 2015 (UTC)
I did revert so that there could be discussion. I only revert once and will let you two work out the details. Best wishes.(Littleolive oil (talk) 17:43, 26 April 2015 (UTC))

an image for a little french village[edit]

I wrote to you cause I saw you edited the page of and you seem more active.

This is a picture you could freely add to articles about the french village Ligardes, I do not have the need of a wikipedia account, so hope you can add it to the encycledia.

It's CC-by-SA or, my prefered ones, but can change if not fit for you.

Please do not refer publicly to the facebook page.

Cheers. (public access, no facebook account required)

— Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 18:28, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

added : I saw LilHelp A just deleted my comment to his/her page with no more attention

if it is not the right place for this, please do not ignore, and tell me what to do, I dont't want an account just to add one image..

Article requests: Das Neue Orchester and Christoph Spering[edit]

Gerda, given your penchant for baroque music and german subjects, I thought you might be willing to create articles on conductor de:Christoph Spering and his orchestra Das Neue Orchester. We could use the additions :-). Best wishes.4meter4 (talk) 23:23, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

I am very busy already. I'll create a stub and a redirect from the other, for the moment, establishing the links. I hope a page watcher will do the rest ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:47, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

When Lilacs Last in the Dooryard Bloom'd[edit]

I think some refs were messed in the articles at: Biographer Justin Kaplan draws a connection between Whitman's notes and the lines in the poem:|p=307–310}}307–310}}

Also, your monkey photo at the top is a copyright violation. I don't know how you got a photo of my mom and me, but you will pay$. Bgwhite (talk) 08:12, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

ref fixed, + 2 more, and there will be more ... - the pic, interesting ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:26, 29 April 2015 (UTC)


to check and link : — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 08:34, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, - someone did it already. You can do it yourself: go on "Languages", last on the left, on any given article, click on "Edit links", and you will be prompted to enter the two-digit language code, here "fr" and the article name. If you created an article here, do that in the other language which has a wikidata entry already (then enter "en", of course) ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:42, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
I 'd done yet, see history of the fr article. but still can't put the photo i wished to add for Ligardes
sorry for bothering you
The photo: I am not good in photo licensing things, so asked friends (see here), got several answers:
  • They can submit a requests at Wikipedia:Files for upload, or they can create an account at the commons and upload them themselves. For the Commons, the place to start is First steps uploading files.
  • They can post the image on Flickr with the free licence, then we could grab them from there.
  • They could email permission to OTRS, at
  • A request was made here.
I don't know if it helps, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:18, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
  • The article translated had been partially destroyed by wikification, may be review links removed and vocable by a specialist (eg: "cantor" is not "chanteur" (singer) but is "cantor" or "chantre"), the "corrector" just removed links while correct them
  • I could add english translation for the article, or help translating your favourite page into french.
  • Just need someone with an account to upload the photo and put it on the village page (you can check the owner on google).
  • The license is acceptable for the WP (CC-by-SA or
  • It helps (talk) 12:54, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
Great prospect, - my favourite articles are on my user page (and its archive), feel free to translate what you like, - those with a green or blue marker are the best, - you can make stubs instead, don't have to translate word by word. I have little time today but will look, promised, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:10, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
Photo DONE. Intergration on 29 april.
Told you here for next articles. Thanks for your work on WP. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 14:40, 29 April 2015 (UTC)


Remember your hotlists on your user page? Feel free to add articles which are priority for starting from German at Wikipedia:WikiProject Intertranswiki/German/Culture. Cheers.♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:21, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

They are easy to find in the archives, will copy ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:07, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
Just imagining the DYK hook haha.. Interesting request!♦ Dr. Blofeld 21:45, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
Born when I wrote 11 opera composer biographies one day for Munich Biennale, where you can find more red links, also on Deutscher Tanzpreis and International Johann Sebastian Bach Competition, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:48, 29 April 2015 (UTC)


I 👍 Like ‹See TfD› Gerda.

If only all women were so easy to please. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 12:02, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

I commented. - I - easy to please??? April Fool? - I don't like the waste of time the GGTF arb case has cost, with no end in sight. - I don't like people leaving in frustration, see Hafspajen and Victoria, among others, on top of those missed already (see my infobox on top, "despised and rejected", - did you know that I wrote the article in 2011, because I didn't like how an editor was driven away?). - I don't like that you didn't answer my request, remember? (If not: My advice for a peace treaty would be simple: recommend that every (!) editor in (infobox) discussions would think twice about a second revert in the same matter, and three times about a third comment in the same. Can you word that in legal language to the arbitrators?) Sorry, I forgot the question mark then. - Did you see my DYK for lawyers? - What I like? Curtains up for Lohengrin! ---Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:16, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
I did LIKE your DYK, but I did not know that it was specific to lawyers. As for opera, my exposure is mostly to Italian classic, Mozart, American Broadway musicals of the Rodgers & Hammerstein and Lerner & Loewe variety, and, of course . . . Bugs Bunny. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 12:29, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
I only said "for", not "specific to", "for" meaning "good for" ;) - If you look at Lohengrin, what strikes you as almost blasphemous for a work by Wagner (only other so far the Wesendonck Lieder), while all of Verdi and some of Mozart (Don Giovanni) have it? - Did you know that a bunny took the pic of the monkeys? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:38, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
ps: like like, - that article was later my first GA, written by an indeffed user, - one of the outcasts ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:21, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
ps: like like, liking a barnstar from a banned user ("For believing in the goodness of people above all. For having faith and being willing to work on a cause that seemed hopeless.") - 14 April 2012 and no end of cases that seem hopeless, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:27, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Stele (Kurtág)[edit]

Harrias talk 12:04, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

Baron Munchausen[edit]

Hello! Since you've done so much quality work on articles about German arts and culture, I wonder if you'd be interested in reviewing the GA-nominated article Baron Munchausen. I hope to bring it eventually up to FA status, and would greatly appreciate any advice you have.--Lemuellio (talk) 20:02, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

Baron Münchhausen, you mean? The German pronunciation is wrong: in Münch-hau-sen the second syllable clearly starts with a "h" which is not even visible in English. Consider to change to his German name, seriously. - I will be there for FA, but don't do GA reviews, sorry, because as a non-native speaker I don't feel I can do justice to the prose. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:10, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
That makes sense. Thanks for the quick response.
The "Munchausen vs. Münchhausen" dilemma was discussed a few months ago—the Anglicized spelling and pronunciation /ˈmʌn..zən/ are standard in English-speaking countries. If the German IPA spelling [ˈmʏnç(h)aʊzən] is wrong, though, please do feel free to fix it; it's been on the page for years and I'm not sure how accurate it is.--Lemuellio (talk) 13:01, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
I believe that consistently using the German name, giving the (rather impossible) English version only once, would be the best solution. IPA is Chinese to me (and seems not even helpful), - imagine your name in IPA, and imagine it translated to German with a letter missing ;) - [ˈmʏnçhaʊzən] might work. My problems with IPA began years ago when we struggled over Buxtehude until we realized that it was Danish vs. German. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:10, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
Kibbitzing: Of course it should be Münchhausen – that was his (fictional) name!
(I suppose the umlaut could rendered Muenchhausen – but why? We have umlauted characters.)
Gerda, re doing justice to the prose: Your English is just fine.
I'll go away now. Sca (talk) 14:55, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
(come back!) "Of course", - but see the move request linked above, - reminds me of The Flying Dutchman, - as if Wagner composed something in English. - My English is fine, thanks for supporting that, but I can't judge that of others. See Stallerhof (oh, should we translate that to stables farm? Google translate said "court", well how shall a program decide what kind of a Hof?), before and after copy-editing, the last round is far superior to what I tried, and I was already much better than Google translate which doesn't know if "ihr" means "her" of "their". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:03, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
Guess I'd translate it simply as The Farm, or maybe as Farmstead. Sca (talk) 16:13, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
You loose the stables ;) - my point is that we shouldn't translate names, period. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:16, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
My iconic memory of "ihr" was when someone shouted over the border crossing at the Vopos (or Genztruppen), "Ihr sollt euch schämen!" I guess they could have yelled back "Pflicht ist Pflicht" but they kept silent. Sca (talk) 15:56, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

A kitten for you![edit]

Kitten in a helmet.jpg

Yes, I remember the citation. There are editors who get discouraged and need such encouragement. I like to see such efforts to keep good editors. Thanks again.

Bill Pollard (talk) 12:21, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, speak to Hafspajen, - Martin is back from the cliff, and Victoria will just need more time, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:25, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
Congrats on the FA, Gerda! "My" 'Chrome is TFA in only a few more minutes - 24 hours until the 2015 Kentucky Derby! Montanabw(talk) 22:52, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

Translation question[edit]

Actually two questions. Please see Talk:Treblinka extermination camp#Song lyrics and the Comments section above. First of all, does a user translation belong in the article at all? Second, if we do carry a translation, what should it be? --John (talk) 23:50, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

Without looking (yet): we don't need a translation, but it is nice to understand. See Gerechtigkeitsspirale, I did one translation, Brian the other, - that's alll it takes. If there is a translation available in a source, it can be linked. If it can also in the article is a matter of copyright. For Bach's works, we don't have translations of the whole lyrics (because: which one of several to English and several more to other languages would we choose?), but of single lines in relation to the music, see for example BWV 165. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:23, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Onegin (Cranko)[edit]

Harrias talk 09:28, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Head of Christ (Correggio)[edit]

Harrias talk 10:07, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

back later[edit]

OK .. I have to go help a friend move - but I'll be back later to help work on article. HAGD. — Ched :  ?  14:50, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

HAGD? Have a good day? - Format refs as our friend would have done, please, who did it for Messiah as a birthday present for me and was reverted ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:55, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
Yes - "Have a good day". Not sure why I was having trouble getting the format on that ref last night. I considered just undoing it til this morning, and I noticed that you fixed it - thank you. I'll have to relearn my {{sfn}} stuff again, but I do have notes on it somewhere. (and yes, his technical skills are sorely missed) — Ched :  ?  17:18, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
What I miss moar are his humor and limitless helpfulness. He left great images, like the pietá, - interesting where that is used. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:53, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
I didn't even do harv refs, just named in an extra section, - I find it so much easier to edit text and refs if they are separate. I you want I can convert to harv, - I just did it for the lilacs, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:04, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
I would not go to FAC without harv refs and an infobox, but otherwise I take harv when I want to reference to several pages of a longer source. - Btw, I think you can move that article to Main space, - it's decent, and more people could use it and improve it, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:41, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

Ron Oliver[edit]

Just so you know: I'm applying for a username change to Ron Oliver, my almost-actual name. :) Wildbill hitchcock (talk) 19:22, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

Fine! - This page is good for name changes to real name. - Nicer to hear it from you than from my watchlist ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:39, 2 May 2015 (UTC)