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[edit] Revisit the RfC discussion for Notability (astronomical objects)?

Hi Gigs, the concerns you voiced in your strong opposition to the above proposal have been addressed in the guideline language. Specifically, the guideline was clarified so that it is clearly subordinate to WP:GNG, and cannot be construed to allow non-notable astronomical objects to pass the SNG and not GNG. We worked very hard on this guideline, and would like all the support we can get. In fact, I think it has the spirit of your own essay, Two prongs of notability. Would you consider revisiting the RfC and the guideline to see if the responses and guideline changes are agreeable to you? If so, please consider changing from oppose to support. Cheers, AstroCog (talk) 14:46, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

I disagree that it's clearly subordinate to the GNG in its current incarnation. "If an astronomical object meets any of the following criteria", "The object is, or has been, visible to the naked eye." That clause alone bypasses the GNG's requirement of significant coverage. If it were truly subordinate to the GNG, the fact that something is visible to the naked eye would be largely irrelevant to its notability. Gigs (talk) 20:38, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
That first sentence, though, leaves wiggle-room - "probably qualifies for a stand-alone article." I think the first criteria about naked-eye visibility was suggested in the WP:ASTRONOMY discussion because it makes a reasonable first-order sweep for notability. Emphasis can be placed on "probably" in that section, and we can reword the last bit (important note), which I concede is slightly confusing. For example, take out the mention of GNG and just say that astronomical articles are still subject to WP:N. Would that help? Can you suggest some other tweaks or other ways to improve that section? Cheers, AstroCog (talk) 02:59, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
It won't stop people at AfD from blindly saying "Keep-- meets criteria 1 of the SNG", and you know they will. This isn't so much a problem with your guideline as it is a general problem with the application of SNGs and the unwillingness of closers at AfD to truly evaluate the merits of arguments. Citing a met SNG criteria is an automatically valid !vote lately, and I don't think you are going to be able to draft that out of your guideline. I do feel bad that I have to oppose your SNG for reasons mostly outside of the SNG itself, but until there is a cultural change in the way that all the SNGs are applied, I will continue to oppose new ones. My only suggestion, and it is a radical one, is to depart with the numbered criteria format and offer only general guidance in prose form. Gigs (talk) 04:58, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
I see your point, and it's a good one. I've watched AfD and have seen that type of behavior often. Some editors will reach for any straw to keep any article, in a kind of zealous inclusionism. If the essay is promoted, I'll monitor related AfDs for it and see how bad it gets; in that case a prose format may be worth having. It's a balancing act. Some reasonable editors just want something they can quickly reference, while others should really be reading the content of the essay before applying. Cheers, AstroCog (talk) 13:43, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

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[edit] Wikipedia:WikiProject Dispute Resolution

You may be interested in this. Peter jackson (talk) 11:16, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

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Ben, I did vote in the election several days ago. I don't know why you'd be getting a cross site warning. Gigs (talk) 20:48, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

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[edit] WikiProject Unreferenced Biographies of Living Persons

Hello Gigs, I notice you have tagged the Wikipedia:WikiProject Unreferenced Biographies of Living Persons as historical (inactive), but there are currently 174 unreferenced BLPs and even if it goes to zero I'm sure new ones will pop up regularly. Shouldn't the project be kept alive? Danmuz (talk) 12:44, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

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