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Re Your deletion of some text in the SIOE article.[edit]

Re Your recent deletion of some text which I inserted.

Which part of it was biased. The two examples of criticism come from the British Labour Party and a Left-wing pressure group. The criticism paragraph as it stands is far from objective and offers no context for the criticisms at all. The final edit, re BNP merely spelt out that group's full name. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emmetfahy (talkcontribs) 11:05, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

That's not true. Have another look at your edits and then come back to me. Thanks GimliDotNet (Speak to me,Stuff I've done) 12:34, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

I'd be happy to call Labour Left-centrist if that's what you prefer. The Anti-fascist group referred to are an activist group, with clearly left-wing sympathies, just look at their leadership's political affiliations. This is not a criticism of them, but merely an attempt to give some context. The link to the claim about David Cameron, says he support them yes, but all their organisors appear to be left-of-centre politicians and activists. Regarding the SPLC, they are a Democrat Party aligned and supported group. The Democrat party are (at least in US terms) considered left wing. There has been much criticism also (which you can see in the Wikipedia article on them) about their inappropriate labelling of groups. I think its important to give some context to the criticisms in these articles. I take your point about citations and will look into it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emmetfahy (talkcontribs) 16:27, 8 February 2013 (UTC)


I've declined your speedy as it isn't web content. It's a browser based software that does something or other on local nets rather than being a website. Software doesn't come into A7. The wording 'web based' causes confusion, I think. But this looks to me like downloadable software that works over a net, much as a browser does. Having said that, I can't see any sign of notability and the only ref looks unreliable and possibly not independent.... I'd go for prod. Peridon (talk) 23:00, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

Hi Peridon, I hope you are well. I want to be sure I understand what you have said. Just to clarify QikPad does not require the downloading of any software - it is 100% browser based. There is no third party or download required. In terms of notability, QikPad has been featured in the Times of India newspaper, Examiner '5 sites for web 2.0 applications from 2012 to integrate into the classroom' (search Google for the link - cannot embed),, Robin Good @, Addictive Tips, Freeware Genuis and many many more reviews, including in Spanish, Japanese, Chinese etc. Any questions we can answer please just let me know. Colinmcdermott (talk) 17:01, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

So, you're telling me that it IS internet based? There's a difference here between stuff you use online (like YouTube, Wikipedia, multi-user games, etc) and stuff you use on your own computer (Open Office, Firefox, FreeCell, etc). Browsers do go online, but the software is at home. Stuff that's kept on some central computer and used there (remotely, of course) is liable to speedy deletion id considered not of indicated significance. Software on your home machine is not liable to this (there are other ways for deletion). Anyway, whichever it is, you've had a stay of execution. You need to greatly improve the references. Your sole source is not what I would consider worth typing in. It looks promotional, and possibly not independent. Read WP:RS about what are reliable independent sources, and what aren't. Apologies to Gimli for using his page. Peridon (talk) 18:07, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

List of Hobbit Families[edit]

The list of Hobbit Families page is both outstanding and informative. The Hanes names is indeed not true. My intent was to remove the change later this week. If it is at all possible, would you consider allowing me to add the familly name back in for a few days as we are creating a hobbit week at work for this week only?

Edit on Emeraude's page[edit]

I know that is not something your meant to do but I am absolutely does up of that man, a number of IP editors and log on's are! He has politicized wikipedia and he won't listen to reason! (talk) 12:48, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

If you have a problem with him you should follow proper procedures like WP:RFC or WP:ARV GimliDotNet (Speak to me,Stuff I've done) 14:33, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
He won't, since his own edits are so lacking in neutrality that he could never make a case, if there were one to make. It seems to me he is a suitable case for reference through those procedures himself. Emeraude (talk) 08:41, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

Talk:Redheugh Gardens War Memorial[edit]

Hi. Just to let you know, that edit you reverted was by banned editor Peter Judge (he always uses an IP but always signs his name), so if you're watching that article, please do feel free to revert any edits from him. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 09:51, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

Cheers, wasn't sure that the user was banned so just reverted his rantings. GimliDotNet (Speak to me,Stuff I've done) 10:03, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

Article Feedback deployment[edit]

Hey GimliDotNet; I'm dropping you this note because you've used the article feedback tool in the last month or so. On Thursday and Friday the tool will be down for a major deployment; it should be up by Saturday, failing anything going wrong, and by Monday if something does :). Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 00:02, 14 March 2013 (UTC)


To be picky: he does exist at that point (App. A says he was born in 2879). But I agree it doesn't belong. -- Elphion (talk) 19:05, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

He doesn't exist as a character at that point I mean. GimliDotNet (Speak to me,Stuff I've done) 19:31, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
Yes, and that's why he doesn't belong. -- Elphion (talk) 20:07, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

Mithril talk refactor[edit]

I hope I correctly understood the guidelines of Wikipedia:Refactoring. With the intention of improving the readability of the talk page as a whole:

I combined all of the Analogous real-world substances sections into sub-sections of one new section.
I combined all of the Outside of Tolkien's writings sections into sub-sections of another new section.
In each case, I added an introduction to explain the rearrangement.

Is that appropriate? I figured I'd be bold (particularly on a less-visible page like a talk page), but it never hurts to ask after the fact.

Additionally, I opened the question of whether discussion of analogous real-world substances belongs in the main article, and if so, what would constitute a sufficiently reliable source. Unless I've overlooked something in the standards, that seems like an appropriate call for discussion.

Steve98052 (talk) 06:54, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

Prince Harry[edit]

When did NBC become an unreliable source? Cresix (talk) 18:05, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

Talk Page[edit]

Have you actually looked at the section I commented on? As you just said, "Anti-semitism in Islam is not relevant to Neo-Nazism", while the section on neo-Nazism in the Netherlands is covering just that - antisemitic Muslim youths harassing Jews in Amsterdam. Completely unrelated to neo-Nazism, which is exactly the point I made on the talk page... --NFSreloaded (talk) 17:17, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

Fair enough. And no problem, it happens. --NFSreloaded (talk) 17:25, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

DRN organisers[edit]

Hello. I am just letting you know that I've made a proposal to create a rotating DRN organiser-style role that would help with the day-to-day running of DRN. As you are a listed volunteer at DRN, I'd appreciate your thoughts on this, and the other open proposals at DRN. You can read more about it here. Thanks! Steven Zhang Help resolve disputes! 00:14, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

Neo Nazism[edit]

I expected you to read what you deleted, before you deleted it. I was not refering to the links in it, but to the actual text - I had a paragraph there about a neo-nazi organisation and it's activity in the Netherland, as that got deleted for no apparent reason. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ScottyNolan (talkcontribs) 15:04, 18 April 2013 (UTC) Of course I accused you of that, as you deleted this as well: "The Coordination Forum for Countering Antisemitism reports that on 17 May 2011 in Leek (Groningen), antisemitic graffiti were found at a Jewish school. The graffiti consisted of a swastika and the text “C18”, or Combat 18, a neo-Nazi organisation active throughout Europe. The number 18 refers to the initials of Adolf Hitler, A and H being the first and eight letters of the alphabet, respectively" Which does talk about neo-nazism in the most obvious way. You can argue about the rest of the paragraph, but you can't argue about that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ScottyNolan (talkcontribs) 09:03, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

The Fall of Arthur[edit]

...has been softened by a redirect to J. R. R. Tolkien bibliography. Good job there with identifying the copyvio. De728631 (talk) 21:01, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

Prince Harry[edit]

Hello. I'm just wondering why you reverted a correction I made to Prince Harry of Wales. Thanks. Inglok (talk) 12:00, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

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Hello, GimliDotNet. You have new messages at Inglok's talk page. --Inglok (talk) 16:35, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

The Fellowship of the Ring[edit]

Apologies for changing the indent to a bullet point! I was vying to list all the comments. Are you responding to the IP? You could do a bullet/indent for a proper response structure. Erik (talk | contribs) 18:21, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Ah-ha, I see what you wanted to do now. :) Cheers! Erik (talk | contribs) 18:22, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
No worries, I always have trouble remembering how many colons to use! GimliDotNet (Speak to me,Stuff I've done) 18:25, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

RE UKIP analysis removal[edit]

I purposely removed the said analysis because I felt it was outdated. UKIP gained 3.0% of the national vote in the 2010 General Election, this is relatively small in comparison to 23% in the last Local Elections and in recent national voting projections. As you can imagine the demographics and characteristics of the parties support will have changed considerably since 2011 when that analysis was published.

The analysis was also lacking in impartiality IMO.

Sorry for any confusion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sunshinenevercomes (talkcontribs) 19:27, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

UK Independence Party[edit]

I think you are on 3RR over there. Darkness Shines (talk) 15:37, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

I am on 3, although if it where reported I would argue that I'm reverting vandalism (the deliberate attempt to subvert wikipedia buy removal of content in this case) GimliDotNet (Speak to me,Stuff I've done)

J. R. R. Tolkien categorization[edit]

If you mean by putting J. R. R. Tolkien in Category:20th-century British novelists when he is in Category:J. R. R. Tolkien, you are misunderstanding the issues there. When the "child category" is an eponymous category named after the subject of the article, it generally should be in any parent category directly. The no parent and child category rule does not apply to eponymous categories.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:51, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

Warning to Atshal[edit]

Hi GimliDotNet.

Thanks for putting the warning on my page and letting me know about the revert rules. There appears to be some conflict with the user Emeraud, who was deleting a lot of the content I was putting up and which I reverted back - rather than me deleting other people's materials. No matter though. I have put up a little discussion on the talk page of the UKIP site with justifications and reason for the content I would like to include. Perhaps you might like to take a look, if you have an interest in it? Also, if you have time I would appreciate any overall comments on the changes I have made to the page over the last few days - I thought I was being quite neutral and have overall made the page better (especially the intro) but perhaps other people disagree with it?

Atshal (talk) 14:47, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

Been away and not aware of all this. I have today responded on the UKIP talk page to Atshal's objections to my edits, which have all been based on his/her misuse of reliable sources (e.g. misquoting, synthesis, OR, misrepresentation,etc) which I explained each time I edited. I have copies of the journal articles and have chacked the use to which they were made. Emeraude (talk) 12:17, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
Incidentally, I notice that he has deleted the 3RR warning you put on his talk page, just as he deleted the note I left him about xenopgobia. Emeraude (talk) 12:22, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
Hi Emeraud. I tend to delete everything on my page after a few days. If the 3RR thing concerns you so much, perhaps you should comment on the situation at the wiki admin page - the link was put on your own talk page. Atshal (talk) 15:13, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

5/17/2013 Sting Edits[edit]

Thanks, apologies Nathan G. Martin (talk) 19:41, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

Walrus deletion[edit]

Hi GimliDotNet, You may not be familiar with the The Walrus (magazine), but it is a major magazine in my country, Canada. I find your total deletion of the sourced content, sourced to a major magazine, to be problematic. Do only US or UK mags qualify as notable? Your reversion of quality, sourced content will make people less likely to want to contribute to articles. OnBeyondZebrax (talk) 17:32, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

Sorry for the misspelling. I have some type of dyslexia regarding "ie" and "ei". I am pushing for inclusion because in my country The Walrus is viewed as a Canadian equivalent to Harpers. It is a notable, reliable source, and I am not including any of Ms. Landau's controversial views, merely her general comments on Tolkien and LOTR. I challenge you to cite a Wikipedia policy which makes my two snippets of Ms. Landau's review unacceptable. You are concerned with other comments she makes in her review. But what about the excerpts which I was trying to include? I would ask that you cite a Wikipedia policy grounds for not including her review excerpts.OnBeyondZebrax (talk) 22:35, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
The Walrus is a serious magazine. It has had pieces by notable authors, including

keep talk on LOTR talk page[edit]

Hi, You are telling me to keep the LOTR discussion on the LOTR page, but you brought it to my user page. You are not following your own directives :) .OnBeyondZebrax (talk) 12:39, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

My initial response to you was before I realised you'd started a duplicate topic on the talk page. GimliDotNet (Speak to me,Stuff I've done) 12:56, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

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Re: Big Brother[edit]

Given that it's a show rather than a biography, the project doesn't apply there, unless there's something I'm missing, but it seems pretty cut and dry to me. Wizardman 15:26, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

Disruptive Edititing[edit]

I think you are being the disruptive editor here. Where is the evidence that "The Uruk-hai at the Battle of the Hornburg were unique in their lack of fear of the sun" and that this uniqueness was the result of Saruman "making further changes" to the Uruk breed? The fact that they were running on two legs is never said of Sauron's Uruks, yet are we to believe that his Uruks could not do this either? Sauron created the Olog-hai trolls, and they were resistant to sunlight "so long as his will was over them" so why would his Uruks not be? I am not going to say Sauron's Uruks definitely were resistant to sunlight...only that it is possible. It is not stated either way. Here is a quote from the LOTR Appendices showing that Tolkien saw no difference between both groups of Uruks - "Related [to the word 'Orc'], no doubt, was the word uruk of the Black Speech, though this was applied as a rule only to the great soldier-orcs that at this time issued from Mordor and Isengard." - Appendix F to TLotR ('Orcs and the Black Speech') — Preceding unsigned comment added by Transcendent28 (talkcontribs) 08:07, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

DRN needs your help![edit]

Hi there. I've noticed it's been a while since you've been active at DRN, and we could really use your help! DRN is going to undergo some changes soon, so it'd really be great if our backlog is cleared before the start of August and we have as many people on board to help with the changes (they include a move to subpages and the creation of a rotating "co-ordinator" role to help manage things day-to-day. Hope to see you soon! Steven Zhang Help resolve disputes! 11:31, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

The new face of DRN: GimliDotNet[edit]


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Please, stop with the vandalismo on the article about the character Gimili, of The Lord of the Rings! I would not like to have to ask some moderator to block you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Picture Master (talkcontribs) 02:03, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

The art is NOT mine. It's the only public domain picture to that article. You called a friend to help you vandalize the articles! If you do not like the picture, discuss the changes instead. Who are you to say that the picture has poor quality?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Picture Master (talkcontribs) 15:40, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

Accusing me of vandalism isn't the way to go about things. You should also be discussing your additions, not accusing others of vandalism. And Gimli didn't canvass me at all. I happen to watch that article. Intothatdarkness 16:10, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
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De728631 (talk) 16:15, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

Fair enough. See you tomorrow. GimliDotNet (Speak to me,Stuff I've done) 16:33, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
Based on the tone of that user's declined unblock request I think we might see this issue again. Intothatdarkness 16:39, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
Yes. Hopefully there are a couple more people with an opinion either way now though. GimliDotNet (Speak to me,Stuff I've done) 17:08, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
Let's hope this helps a bit. De728631 (talk) 17:11, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
Hopefully. Intothatdarkness 17:52, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

Your involvement with DRN[edit]

Hi there, I noticed that you haven't been as active at DRN as you was before. DRN has been a bit backlogged lately and we could use some extra hands. We have updated our volunteer list to a new format, Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard/Volunteers (your name is still there under the old format if you haven't updated it) and are looking into ways to make DRN more effective and more rewarding for volunteers (your input is appreciated!). If you don't have much time to volunteer at the moment, that's fine too, just move your name to the inactive list (you're free to add yourself back to active at any time). Hope to see you again soon :) Steven Zhang (talk) 13:18, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

Eponymous vs. Titular[edit]

Hello there "GimliDotNet". In the article entitled Sauron I recently made an edit replacing the word 'titular' with the word 'eponymous' to describe the character that the novel was named after (i.e. "The Lord of the Rings"). You reverted this edit, questioning my understanding of the word. I will now refer to the dictionary definition of both words to convince you about why I made the edit. Firstly, 'eponymous'.
1.(of a person) being the person after whom a literary work, film, etc., is named e.g. the eponymous heroine in the film of Jane Eyre.
2. (of a literary work, film, etc.) named after its central character or creator.
Now, this is the meaning of the word 'titular'.
1. Holding or constituting a purely formal position or title without any real authority: "the queen is titular head of the Church of England".
2.(of a cleric) Nominally appointed to serve a diocese, abbey, or other foundation no longer in existence...
I'll also refer you to the Wikipedia article on Titular, which even specifically says "Titular character, is often incorrectly used in place of title role."; which is exactly what this article has done. I would like to revert it back to "eponymous". I assume you will now be satisfied with this change. (talk) 13:58, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

Eponymous requires that the item in question is actually named after the person, not an attribute of the person. For example Harry Potter, Homer's Odyssey,Parkinson's Disease. A Titular Character is the person whom a work of fiction refers to, therefore Bilbo Baggins is the Titular Character in The Hobbit and Sauron is the Titular Character in The Lord of the Rings GimliDotNet (Speak to me,Stuff I've done) 15:14, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
See the Oxford dictionary definition of titular. [1] GimliDotNet (Speak to me,Stuff I've done) 15:19, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

UKIP Negativity[edit]

Your reason for undoing some of my edits are because I'm allegedly "attempting to push... pro UKIP stance into articles, this is a serious paper, not a site to push one view over another" yet your stance is fundamentally hypocritical by removing truths such as UKIP's membership figure or favourable rating in the most recent polls because you seemingly are anti-UKIP and thus flail around at any positivity surrounding the party. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BrettRickles (talkcontribs) 07:29, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

Re: March 2014[edit]

Sorry for my mistakes on English Wikipedia. My edits were accidentally contributions.

Relly Komaruzaman Talk 10:46, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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Thanks for the advice on my talking page on English Wikipedia. Relly Komaruzaman Talk 08:28, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

User talk:Flaming Ferrari[edit]

Information.svg Ouch! You've used a template to send a message to an experienced editor. Please review Wikipedia:Don't template the regulars or maybe listen to a little advice. Doesn't this feel cold, impersonal, and canned? It's meant in good humor. Best wishes. (tJosve05a (c) 18:47, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Indeed, and what were the rollbacks all about? Strange way to behave Flaming Ferrari (talk) 14:16, 11 April 2014 (UTC)
Not strange at all, it's not for others to remove my edits to any talk pages other than their own. Accusing other editors of having hidden agenda is acting in bad faith. GimliDotNet (Speak to me,Stuff I've done) 14:27, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

UK Independence Party[edit]

Please see the discussion at Talk:UK Independence Party#Request for comment about whether academic sources describing the UK Independence Party as far-right are reliable. LordFixit (talk) 07:16, 15 April 2014 (UTC)