User talk:Gintong Liwanag Ng Araw

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AfD nomination of Kingdom of Sugbo[edit]

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Philippines[edit]

You are making changes to the Philippines which are sourced to a site, but you are changing the information and making it look as if the source is supporting your edit. You will have to provide another source. I'm reverting your edit till you do it right. AnyPerson (talk) 03:36, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

The first paragraph of this edit is changing what the Stanford source is saying. AnyPerson (talk) 03:44, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Don't call me boy. Keep the tone of our discussion civil. Don't make demands. Don't change a sourced cite unless you can prove that the source says what you are claiming it says. AnyPerson (talk) 03:55, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Civility and suitability[edit]

The matter of civility goes to your assault on editor Tedickey's Talk page. The abusive language and tone you employ there is entirely inappropriate, no matter how passionately you feel about your position. You're going to have to learn to cool down if you want to accomplish anything here on Wikipedia. Please read Wikipedia:Civility, think about it, and take it seriously. If you don't, as I say, you're going to find it impossible to get anything you want done.

Next, you need to understand that simply because a fact is (a) important and (b) sourced, that does not mean that it belongs in every possible article it has any relevance to. United States is an overview article on a country that has to treat all sorts of important matters in extremely summary style. World War I gets two sentences. The Korean War gets one. And so forth. If you look at how the entire article is structured and written, you will see that the focus you want to bring to the Philippine-American War is way out of proportion to the space given comparably important subjects. So, the edit you want to make will almost certainly never be agreed to by a consensus of involved editors, which is how things get done here when there are disagreements.

Now, there are two things you can do. First, you could take a look at all of the topical articles that could possibly use more on this important subject: There's History of the United States (1865–1918). There's Overseas expansion of the United States. There's Military history of the United States. Second, you could propose an edit that would add perhaps a potently worded phrase, at the most a sentence to the existing passage in the overview article. It may or not be accepted, but it's certainly worth a shot; but again, if you argue for it the way you chose to address Tedickey, any proposal you make will certainly not be accepted. That's what you have to understand in order to be effective in a collaborative environment like Wikipedia. Best of luck.—DCGeist (talk) 09:04, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Philippines[edit]

This is not an acceptable edit summary. Please keep your tone civil. Vicenarian (Said · Done) 21:00, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Hi[edit]

I appreciate your work on the Philippines article.--23prootie (talk) 12:53, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Resolving dispute to Philippines[edit]

Hello. Philippines has been protected by a protecting admin upon request and due to edit war. He receommended here to solve any dispute on the page, but that is only available to admins. Sky Harbor said here on the other hand, to list down and discuss possible disputes on Philippines' talk page which caused edit war. Cheers!--JL 09 q?c 23:18, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Causes of the disputes[edit]

1. An outdated view about Philippine history. Some people think the states of the prehispanic Philippines were only chief-dooms instead of real kingdoms. A view which have been printed in "cannon" textbooks and propogated to people but which recent archeological findings have proved false. As proven by the Butuan Silver Strip, Laguna Copperplate Inscription, The Sung historical annals and the Tarsillas of the Sultanates of Sulu and Maguindanao. Information not "popular" a couple of years ago. Unfortunately "some" people still cling to these old views and thats why they continue to revert my new updated work.

2. Just doubt. They doubt the legitimacy of my sources cause they have been indoctrinated in the old ways. Something which, a simple grasping of my sources can solve but these people can't seem to get it.


Gintong Liwanag Ng Araw (talk) 13:47, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Actually its was thought in grade school that we traded with our Asian neighbors and that we possessed a relatively sophisticated civilization. Even the Katipunan and Rizal knew that with their use of Alibata. It's only Westerners and Westernized Filipinos who think we're mangmang.--23prootie (talk) 18:30, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
Though your ideas seem to be great, you have to provide reference/s in any way. Previous editions of the article Philippines with no citations pushed Boxedor to rewrite it the way he liked it. You must also preserve neutrality of the article about a subject. Remember that this is not the first time when Philippines was vandalised by angry users. Resolving conflicts such as that will help the article cope through owning it.--JL 09 q?c 23:19, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
Although your intention might be good (or bad) one must not make any editions without any sources and ample evidence and circumspect to support your claim. And one must not corrupt the data with your own biases. Just like the way how a certain editor, completely rehashed all my work. Originally I wrote that Rajah Sri Bata Shaja and Lord-Minister Jayadewa were a King and Lord repectively (As proven in the articles about them and from Book and Internet referneces I cited in the article) but He merely concluded that Rajah: Sri Bata Shaja was a Datu! When "Rajah" means king! He also reduced Jayadewa the Lord-Minister of 900s Tondo into a mere cheiftain and rewrote the entire thing without citing one insy winsy book or article to support that. It's insulting for the researchers and translators of these ancient documents to have their research nullified and the noble and glorious Kings and Lords of the past to be reduced to mere Cheiftains. That's why im vehemently defending the article from unscientific bias.

Gintong Liwanag Ng Araw (talk) 04:51, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Confederation of Madya-as[edit]

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Huge copy-pasting[edit]

Hello. I noticed the great edits you made to Confederation of Madya-as. When I was reading the page, I found that it was a substantial plagiarism of a website known as Akeanon. In order for you to save the article for bot search and speedy deletion as criteria for copyright violation, I suggest you as soon as possible to revise the article immediately so that it does not appear to be a copy violation of Akeanon. Furthermore, use many sources as possible. And don't paste huge chunks of information in the article that was copy-pasted from another website.--JL 09 q?c 13:53, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

WP:PR[edit]

You can see the peer review requested by me for the article. You can edit it so that it can't be classified as plagiarism. Read it here. Look what you can do so that it can't be a plagiarism according to Wikipedia rules.--JL 09 q?c 11:55, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

Talkback[edit]

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AfD nomination of Lazaro Macapagal[edit]

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Consensus and Closing the Consensus[edit]

As much as I am concerned, I don;t want to join the discussion in Philippines regarding some section editing, but issues gone tougher and too bad to ignore.

You said on this link that a consensus has been achieved, so there is a rightful cause to restore points. As a counter, here is a copy of the discussion here that does nor support your claim:


Considering the course of our discussions I am now in the understanding that a new concensus has been achieved. I will now revert the edition to Labanog's most recent version of it. Thank You.

Gintong Liwanag Ng Araw (talk) 03:25, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

What are you talking about? No consensus was achieved. Elockid (Talk·Contribs) 03:34, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
Dear Elockid. You know fully well that concensus has been achieved because of the lack of repartee from the opposing party. "The man with the last word on the matter is deemed right."

Hence, I implore you to just use your subtle-sense and agree to the logic of our passionate quests for the expanded edition of the section. You have witnessed our delibetations deliberations in the matter and I trust that deep inside your heart you know we are right. But if you insist more on the formalities of things rather than the substance of it. I fervently wish you could trascend that... But, thanks for arbitrating anyway.

Truly Yours Gintong Liwanag Ng Araw (talk) 5:41 am, Today (UTC−8)

Here, Elockid mentioned that no consensus has been achieved. But you replied that he must abide with the edits you and Lambanog did that seems to be right, and if it is right, then a consensus was reached and agreed to restore edits done by you.

As what WP:CONSENSUS wanted to point out, here is a simple but useful flowchart on to determine whether a consensus has been made:

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This policy says that if editors did not remove your edits regarding the page, then this is a simple showing that it was accepted by opposing editors. It also says that if editors removed edits done by yours, then there is something wrong regarding that insertion that qualifies an explanation. In this sense, JCRB, Elockid and others did their job to explain why insertion and expansion of the sections are wrong.

Finally, as what the policy goes on, if their is a behaviour of "repeatedly inserting the same content when other contributors are rejecting it", then that means that it may lead to blocking or limiting your user rights.

Next, as what civility pillar wanted to say, that either direct or indirect rudeness may be followed by appropriate administrative actions. For example, you inserted the following comments:

  • Are you silly or something?
  • WE HAVE ALREADY REACHED A CONSENSUS LAST TIME (-- where is that consensus? If two or more editors agreed with an issue, then that what consensus comes in. Sarek of Vulcan also reminds you, through the talk page, that he can't see any consensus.)
  • ...spewed forth from their bowels
  • Now, shall we have a new consensus? (Closing a consensus without citing agreements from factions is really, really bad, especially if there is an issue standing. At this moment, there is no agreement yet, but you tend to say that there is.)
  • Im sorry but thats something you should accept. (Remember, this is not a war of the worlds)

Citing dominant policies, it is true that continuing incivility and edit warring (per WP:CONS) may lead to blocking, or any appropriate action. Thanks.--JL 09 q?c 14:24, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Request for Arbitration[edit]

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Last Warning[edit]

This is the last absolute warning before I request an administrator to block you for your disruptive editing and continued incivility or some sanction against your disruptive behavior. You have continued to revert without any consensus citing extremely poor examples to justify your reverts and poor reasoning to why we should accept your version. No one said that your version was better. You asked us to compare. Nowhere did anyone say that yours was better. Just about everyone in form or another rejected your version. This is disruptive and it's clear that you're exhausting all our patience. SarekOfVulcan already said you failed to show consensus and that you have problems with claiming consensus. This is no different. If you revert one more time, you can consider yourself reported which will most likely result you in being blocked from editing. Elockid (Talk·Contribs) 04:20, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Edits on Cebu[edit]

Hey that's alright, as long as you provide references or sources to support your statements, that's ok. Always, remember Wikipedia is "not" a place for advertisement, it is place for educational purposes, alright. -talk WikiDak 8 December 11:20 (UTC)

December 2010[edit]

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to vandalize pages by deliberately introducing incorrect information, as you did at Philippines, you may be blocked from editing. — JL 09 talk (site)contribs    14:21, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

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Proposed deletion of Butuan Silver Paleograph[edit]

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Hello![edit]

Hello Gintong Liwanag Ng Araw, I am Mediran and it such my pleasure on meeting another Filipino Wikipedian. --Mediran talk 03:11, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

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Edit warring in Manila[edit]

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A barnstar for you![edit]

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Hey man, how've you been? Easy772 (talk) 02:04, 9 June 2014 (UTC)