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DYK for List of New York Islanders players[edit]

Thanks from me and the wiki Victuallers (talk) 00:02, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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For all your work in cleaning up the Survivor articles! Nice job! Survivorfan1995 (talk) 21:55, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
@Survivorfan1995: Thank you very much! All of the main changes across all 27 seasons are completed :) Gloss • talk 03:45, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

Survivor: Cook Islands[edit]

My edits to the pictures in Survivor: Cook Islands were a response to this request at the Help Desk
The problem with composing page layouts are that they look radically different depending on what they are viewed on, which can be from a huge HD internat enabled screen, to a phone. Personally, with my screen settings, the current arrangement looks poor, as the photos drift down past the first table and the intervening text alongside the second table - but, as I say, the changes were made at the request of another user. Can I suggest you discuss this with Survivorfan1995 (talk) who raised it at the Help desk - Thanks Arjayay (talk) 18:44, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

@Survivorfan1995: - I don't see anything wrong with the way it looks now. If the issue is that it runs down into the next section, we can remove one of the images. The images are only there to fill in some of the dead space next to the table and provide an example of what one or two of the contestants look like. Having them in a gallery at the top makes it seem like this section is only about those pictured players. On my screen, there isn't much of a gap between the table and the images, though I don't know what that looks like on your screen. But since everyone works with different screens, not everyone can always be pleased. So in this case it might make the most sense to stick with the format that articles have been using for as long as they've been around.. with the pictures to the right of the table - that hasn't had any complaints before that I'm aware about. Gloss • talk 18:50, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

No, the images are all in a tall stack at the right, but they won't go beside the chart because the chart is too wide (since this season had four tribes instead of the usual two). Instead, they're stacked on top of the chart with a bunch of white space to their left. It looks very weird the way it is now. The same problem is over at Survivor: South Pacific#Contestants. Survivorfan1995 (talk) 19:23, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
I can mimic the same appearance Survivorfan1995 is reporting by either reducing the pixels on my screen, or increasing the zoom level to 150%, both of which will mimic a fairly typical screen layout, as I use a 24" screen on HD. Arjayay (talk) 19:40, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
What kind of laptop/browser are you guys using. I'm using a Macbook/Safari and it looks perfectly fine to me. So I'm not sure what a fix to this could be because I can't see the problem. Perhaps making the images smaller? 150px? Gloss • talk 19:48, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
I'm using an iPad mini/Safari. I've also got access to a Windows 7/Internet Explorer but I haven't been using it so much now that I've got my iPad. I'm not sure Safari vs. Internet Explorer would make a whole lot of difference. Survivorfan1995 (talk) 20:00, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
BTW, you can always check out my user page, as I've mentioned there (among other stuff) what kind of system I use :) Survivorfan1995 (talk) 20:17, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
@User:Arjayay: are you using Internet Explorer? Gimmie a couple minutes, I'll fire up the PC and see what the article looks like there (that thing takes forever to boot now). Be back in a few. Survivorfan1995 (talk) 20:25, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
Alright, I'm logged in on the PC and the article doesn't look any different on Internet Explorer. I still think we need to do something about it. Survivorfan1995 (talk) 20:35, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
@Gloss & User:Arjayay: I personally don't see a problem with this right here. If you guys have got any other ideas, feel free to experiment in my sandbox. Survivorfan1995 (talk) 21:02, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

@Survivorfan1995: There is no problem on my screen and I can't say I like having the images above the contestants table. It breaks the consistency from the other articles. Can you somehow show me a screenshot of what it looks like to you? Gloss • talk 21:34, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

I wish I could but I can't upload an image to anything but an article; it's not allowed on talk pages or anything like that :( Survivorfan1995 (talk) 21:37, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
Why do you say that? You can upload it and post it here. Gloss • talk 21:38, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
That's what it said on the file upload wizard. When I typed in that I wanted to use it here, it said that it couldn't be done because it wasn't an encyclopedia article. And it's not like it'd be a public domain picture, since it's a website screenshot. You know what I'm saying?Survivorfan1995 (talk) 21:40, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
I'm not too sure how that works. Hmm Gloss • talk 21:41, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
okay, could you try uploading a screenshot of your screen? Maybe we'll both learn something. Survivorfan1995 (talk) 21:43, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
Alright, here's a rough depiction of what I'm seeing: (images removed after message was read Gloss • talk 23:12, 27 January 2014 (UTC))

The chart doesn't begin until waaaaaaay down here (it's wider than most of the other charts since this season had four tribes instead of the usual two).You see all the white space to the left of the images? That's what the article looks like to me on both the iPad and the PC. I hope this helps. Survivorfan1995 (talk) 22:24, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

I understand. But does it fix it when you make the images smaller? Have you tried that? Gloss • talk 22:48, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
Somehow I don't think that'd work because the chart is roughly as wide as the page itself. Any other ideas? Survivorfan1995 (talk) 22:54, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
I set a permanent width (65%) so it doesn't take up the whole page. Did that work? Gloss • talk 23:02, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
No, sorry :( It doesn't look any different than before. Do you think we should maybe start some kind of consensus on that way I suggested in my second sandbox? Maybe that'd be a better way to get something worked out. Survivorfan1995 (talk) 23:11, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
Not exactly "we" - I don't like that suggestion so if you want a consensus on that, it'll be all you buddy. Gloss • talk 23:14, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
Oh sorry! You're right. My mistake. Survivorfan1995 (talk) 23:16, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
Hey one more quick question. How exactly do I start a consensus anyway? Do I post it on the article's talk page? How would I get other people to notice it? Survivorfan1995 (talk) 23:20, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
Post on the article's talk page (or in this case, I'd post on the main Survivor US talk page as that's probably got more people watching the page. Propose your idea and just see how the feedback goes. Gloss • talk 23:41, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Josh Hutcherson[edit]

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Katie Gallagher[edit]

Hey, thanks for removing that wrong image. I put it there because she's in the "Survivor contestants" category over at Commons and when I typed her name in here on Wikipedia, it redirects to Survivor: Palau. So evidently something's been mixed up here. Do you happen to know who that Katie is? I don't remember a whole lot about Survivor: Palau, so I wouldn't know her face even if it was her. Any help to straighten this out? Survivorfan1995 (talk) 07:10, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

Doesn't seem like too big of a problem. I'll take a look at the category at Commons. I have no idea who that Katie is but I happened to just finish watching Palau for maybe the fourth time last week :P Gloss • talk 07:14, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

Commons username change request[edit]

I am requesting a rename on Commons. My current Commons name is IMatthew. Gloss • talk 05:25, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

The first[edit]

Hi Gloss, I appreciate the early congratulations. :) Thank you for that, for your support and for being the last person in a long line of many over the years to encourage me to run for RfB. I am both surprised and pleased by the last week; I could not have asked for an easier candidacy! I look forward to our continued interactions! Acalamari 10:41, 31 January 2014 (UTC)


Okay, obviously since I'm new. Can you please explain to me the how to upload images to Wikipedia without them being deleted? Banshee01 (talk) 23:58, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

@Banshee01: Hey there! The problem with the images you've uploaded so far is that they are from other websites online and not your own pictures. For the most part, uploading an image you found elsewhere online is not permitted unless the author of that image has released it into the public domain. It can be hard to identify which images are and aren't okay to be uploaded here, but I'll direct you to WP:IMAGES - you can look around there to learn more information about uploading images. I'll also leave you with the name of another user I know that can answer any image-related questions you have much better than I can: User:J Milburn - he has a lot of experience with images on Wikipedia. :) Gloss • talk 00:06, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Josh Hutcherson[edit]

The article Josh Hutcherson you nominated as a good article has passed Symbol support vote.svg; see Talk:Josh Hutcherson for comments about the article. Well done! Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of IndianBio -- IndianBio (talk) 05:52, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Million Award![edit]

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For your contributions to bring Josh Hutcherson (estimated annual readership: 1,800,000) to Good Article status, I hereby present you the Million Award. Congratulations on this rare accomplishment, and thanks for all you do for Wikipedia's readers! -- Bobnorwal (talk) 16:24, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

I don't know a thing about "The Hunger Games" (?) myself, but I hear the kids like it. Lord knows this article has plenty of views, and I just wanted to congratulate you on bringing this particular high-traffic article up to snuff. :) Bobnorwal (talk) 16:24, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

@Bobnorwal: Thank you! This article has been my main project since returning from a long retirement so it's really nice to see it pass and be rewarded for it. :) Gloss • talk 18:11, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Philip Seymour Hoffman[edit]

Whoops sorry I only meant to add the caption, I don't know what the other stuff is. LADY LOTUSTALK 19:31, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

@Lady Lotus: No worries! I figured we got into an edit conflict and you copy and pasted the whole page before you saved your edit. That's usually the cause of the previous edit being reverted like that. It should be all good now :) Gloss • talk 19:32, 3 February 2014 (UTC)


I can't help but wonder..... are you intentionally following my edits? I wouldn't go so far as to call you a stalker (and hope you don't become one), but it is interesting how you sometimes seem to follow my edits rather closely..... especially since you just re-added IMDb for five articles I removed it from (due to it not being seen as a reliable source)..... XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 21:09, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

@XXSNUGGUMSXX: When I see somebody making the same edit across multiple pages I have on my watchlist, all performing the same action (removing IMDb in this case) - I take a look at their contributions to see where else (if anywhere) they were making those edits in order for me to undo them (when necessary). We happen to edit a lot of the same articles, so your edits pop up on my watchlist very often. I have no interest in following or stalking your edits. Gloss • talk 22:03, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
OK, just checking. Carry on. XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 22:05, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

The Hunger Games[edit]

Are you a fan buddy? :) —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 06:56, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

@IndianBio: I am! Gloss • talk 07:03, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
Well thought of general chit-chat. Wonder who's gonna play the gamekeeper in Mockingjay now that Philip Seymour has passed away. :( —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 07:55, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
Ah, well fortunately the films will be unaffected as the majority of filming has been completed, according to Lionsgate. Gloss • talk 15:44, 4 February 2014 (UTC)


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Awarded by Vjmlhds for being part of the cumulative effort to rescue WWE Raw 1000 from deletion Vjmlhds (talk) 21:22, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
@Vjmlhds: Appreciate it, thanks. Gloss • talk 21:28, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
@Gloss: You're welcome, and thanks for pitching in. Vjmlhds (talk) 21:31, 4 February 2014 (UTC)


Regarding the template on the OSU page:

I was trying to nominate the article for selected status on the Ohio Portal, and added the template to it's talk page per the instructions. For whatever reason, it didn't translate. Vjmlhds (talk) 17:51, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

P.S. - Point taken about the awards.


Good to see you've come back to Wikipedia. I wouldn't have even known it was you if I hadn't followed a link from an old talk page. Soap 03:31, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

@Soap: Good to see you're still here! There's mostly an entirely new group of editors around these days.. so when I renamed, I sort of dropped the old name quicker than I expected because nobody remembered me anyways (besides a select few). I'm glad you found that old talk page though :) Gloss • talk 03:36, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

Talk Header[edit]


Is there are reason why you added {{talkheader}} to Talk:Marie-Claude Asselin? Per the documentation for the template:

This template should be used only when needed. There is no need to add this template to every talk page. Do not create a talk page that contains only this template.

Regards. -- Whpq (talk) 21:03, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

@Whpq: Hi, I've actually never gone to the template's page to read it's documentation so this is the first I'm hearing about that. I'm not sure why it's considered bad practice to create a page with only that template as it's surely an easier way to encourage editors who may not know how to create a talk page to begin discussions or raise concerns about an article. But then again nothing ever seems to sense around here anymore. Thanks for bringing that to my attention. Gloss • talk 21:08, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
For what it's worth, I kind of agree with you, but it seems not to be the practice, and I tend to try and follow consensus. I poked into the archive of the templates talk page and found some discussion at Template talk:Talk header/Archive 6. Regards. -- Whpq (talk) 21:25, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Josh Hutcherson[edit]

Symbol question.svg Hello! Your submission of Josh Hutcherson at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 23:35, 8 February 2014 (UTC)


I'm unfamiliar with the source in general, but the one you use to support this looks just like a WP bio. I wonder how and by whom it was written. Regards, -- Ohc ¡digame! 01:51, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

I actually found a better source with some more information. I'll be adding it shortly. Gloss • talk 01:57, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
Sounds good! -- Ohc ¡digame! 02:14, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

Justin Bieber RfC[edit]

If you have time and the desire to re-engage in the debate over legal issues and polls at the Justin Bieber article ....pls comment at Talk:Justin Bieber#RfC: Behaviour and legal issues Thank you for your time. -- Moxy (talk) 04:05, 10 February 2014 (UTC)


Go ahead, you violated the 3RR before I did. --Hirolovesswords (talk) 07:26, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Josh Hutcherson[edit]

The DYK project (nominate) 14:17, 10 February 2014 (UTC)


Yes, it's better quality and more recent, but there's something about his pained expression in it which upsets me which was the reason why I removed it....♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:13, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

@Dr. Blofeld: I'm sorry, what? Gloss • talk 18:16, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
Seems it was @Corvoe: who switched the photo back in the Philip Seymour Hoffman article not you. I agree it's better for the time being, I hope to replace it with a better one if I can though..♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:21, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
I'm gonna have to echo Gloss. You said it's more recent and better quality, so why would we not use it? His expression isn't the most flattering, but look at Brad Pitt's picture. It's the best one we have. Corvoe (speak to me) 20:40, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
Just for the record.. I didn't have an opinion on this, my "I'm sorry, what?" was my confusion about what Dr. Blofeld was talking about in the first place. Gloss • talk 21:54, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
I knew that, I was just thinking it was an appropriate response. Corvoe (speak to me) 03:06, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

The Following[edit]

"Undid revision 594898735 by Artmanha (talk) no, my friend. you're reverting based on your own dislike of the color, not based off of any actual policy or manual of style requirement"

And what is the reason why your reverting the colors, because by the way I see, it is the same one you claimed I had. So, why don't you stop trying to rule the page because you don't. Yes, you can contribute to the page, but you're not the only one who can do it.

Those colors you are trying to put are there simply because you disliked the other ones and they're "not based off of any actual policy or manual of style requirement". You're not in the position to say this to me.

You're more than welcome to contribute to the page by bringing actual referenced information. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Artmanha (talkcontribs) 23:37, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

Why don't we come back to the colors it originally was, and then you get a WP:CONSENSUS on the talk page instead of me, since it's you who are trying to change the colors and I'm the one trying to revert it. This way is more coherent to what you're trying to do.

I appreciate your comprehension. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Artmanha (talkcontribs) 00:11, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

OK then, but those colors do not fit well together. If the problem was this, you should have told me the first time to avoid moments like this.

Later, if you don't figure out other colors that fit better together, I'll do it, but for now I have a suggestion: "004225" for Season 1 and "B2BEB5" for Season 2.

By the way, since you are clearly more skilled than me, the page needs separeted Season 1 and 2 sections. - Artmanha (talk) 00:34, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

Do watch any TV show other than 'The Following', if so, you probably "follow" its wikipedia page. So, there's a page only to a season rather than just the "episode list". For instance, "American Horror Story" and "Nikita":

Thats what I meant. - Artmanha (talk) 00:45, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

Gypsy (Lady Gaga song)[edit]

Gypsy has been confirmed as Gaga's next single. It was reported on digital spy that Gypsy was the song she was filming a music video for. hadji87

@Hadji87: If it was confirmed as a single, you'll need a reliable source to back that up. Because as of now, it seems there is no evidence besides a music video being made, and that doesn't automatically mean the song becomes a single. Gloss • talk 15:11, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

Hoffman-O'Donnell separation sources[edit]

Hi Gloss,

I saw that you reverted my revert on the Hoffman article. I think it is completely fine to have a line about his separation from O'Donnell, but I also think that it is extremely important to have reliable sources for anything we add to the personal life/death subsections – especially now that his death is still being investigated and so many people seem to be confused about the purpose of WP and add content from The National Enquirer and other gossip rags. If we allow non-sourced content about his personal life, I fear that the vandalism to the article will just increase as people add speculation and unnecessary detail. Furthermore, I am not entirely sure whether O'Donnell has stated that their relationship had ended, or whether they were simply living apart/taking a break due to Hoffman's drug relapse (I recall reading that she had asked Hoffman to move away as she didn't want their children exposed to his drug use – i.e. separate living arrangements but not necessarily the end of their relationship). I'm not going to revert your revert as I don't want to start an edit war, but if you have time, could you please find a reliable source and possibly rewrite the sentence as well ('actors' –> 'actor's' etc.)? I (and am sure many other editors and readers as well) would be very grateful!

All the best,

TrueHeartSusie3 (talk) 01:14, 14 February 2014 (UTC)TrueHeartSusie3

Pitch Perfect 2[edit]

Please comment at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pitch Perfect 2. --Captain Assassin! «TCG» 16:33, 15 February 2014 (UTC)


It's per WP:CRYSTAL that it's too early. Rusted AutoParts 18:27, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

It's highly anticipated film, I think it would be better if redirect it to Tarzan in film and other non-print media#Later films, where the information of the film is already existed.--Captain Assassin! «TCG» 10:05, 16 February 2014 (UTC)


Hey, sorry about that. I just didn't understand your previous edit summary about it not being an official episode. I mean, is it really a problem to have an episode chart this early? Survivorfan1995 (talk) 21:01, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

It's not a problem to have an episode chart.. but there wasn't one. That was the season summary chart, not the episode list/table (which is really where that episode's listing belongs). Being that there were no challenges/eliminations in it, it's not too necessary to have it in there. I've been considering removing recap episodes from the season summary tables for the same reason. It isn't exactly notable in terms of summarizing the season. Gloss • talk 21:03, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
Hmm, I'd probably leave the recap episodes in the season summary tables because they were still official episodes. Besides, if u remove them, then the episode numbers are confusing. For example, in the Survivor: Gabon article, if u remove the recap episode from the chart, it would skip from episode 9 to episode 11, which would probably confuse even hardcore fans of the show. So I think those are probably best the way they are. Survivorfan1995 (talk) 21:15, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
I'm not referring to the episode table that I'd like to remove it from. I'm referring to the season summary table. There aren't episode numbers in that table. I feel like that table is more geared towards the "what happened" "who won the challenge" "who was voted out" and when nothing notable happens in a recap episode, it's not really needed in that particular "summary" table. Gloss • talk 21:22, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
OIC what you're saying. Yeah, I don't see any problem with doing that. Survivorfan1995 (talk) 21:34, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

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Survivor winner[edit]

Didn't Tyson win the top prize last season? NintendoFan (Talk, Contribs) 08:34, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Yes, he did. It's never referred to as "the Jackpot" in Survivor though... Gloss • talk 13:58, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

The Hunger Games: Mockingjay – Part 1‎[edit]

What is your opinion on the Plot section? Should it be there or not. I can't believe experienced editors are ok with having an unreferenced plot section for a movie that has not been released. It would seem to fall under WP:CRYSTAL, since we aren't sure what the plot will really be. Until it's released, it's only speculation.--Asher196 (talk) 16:46, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

@Asher196: I believe it makes sense to have it there because it is a film adaption of a book and the statement given is a very general summary of what happens in the book, without going into any specifics. However I see your point too. Perhaps a discussion on the talk page would be best. Gloss • talk 16:48, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Another quick question about the Hantz article[edit]

Hi! I know I already asked u about the Russell Hantz article a few weeks back, but I've made a few more significant changes to it and just wanted a second opinion again before restoring it. I've shortened the Samoa and Heroes vs Villains sections about as much as I can and I've expanded a few other sections and cleaned up some citations. U got any more suggestions? (I wouldn't normally be asking about this stuff so much, but I just wanna be sure I can restore it without it being removed again). Thanks! Survivorfan1995 (talk) 05:08, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

@Survivorfan1995: I don't think you should have any problems with it being deleted again. Feel free to put it into the actual article whenever you're ready. Once it's there I'll make some fixes to it :) Gloss • talk 05:16, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Russell Hantz[edit]

Those crazy people just don't get it. Now the article's got another user fighting it! I don't get it, half the articles we deleted were kept even with little notability. This article's got plenty of notability, but everybody keeps fighting to delete it. It's almost like half the users here are just stubborn and don't have any sense. I don't know how I'm gonna deal with this trash this time. I hope u can help. Survivorfan1995 (talk) 09:02, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Nope, I'm wrong. Now it's three users! Survivorfan1995 (talk) 09:04, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Don't stress yourself over this, please! People on here love to see another editor go crazy, so don't let them get to you. Gloss • talk 19:16, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Re:Hey there[edit]

If you are who I think you are, then you're upset about the U.S. of A. going 0-2 against Canada and that a certain New York Islanders forward was injured. I'm not really back, I'm just slightly active because of the Olympics. I pop up now and then to get into arguments over silly things and realize how happy I am that I don't have to regularly deal with stuff like that any more. -- Scorpion0422 22:05, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

Yep, I'm involved in a real doozy right now with a bipolar IP who doesn't get it. First he insults me, then he thanks me, then he just goes back to his silly version any way. In the old days I would have just gone to IRC and gotten him blocked and the article locked. But this way is kind of fun. -- Scorpion0422 22:18, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

Survivor Contestants[edit]

I've noticed you've unredirected (I don't care if that's not a real word) several articles, including Tyson, Sue, Sandra, and Earl. Is there a reason why you changed your mind? They really aren't notable outside of Survivor (except Earl... I guess!) Dobbyelf62 (talk) 00:06, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

@Dobbyelf62: When I took a closer look into how things work on other reality shows, I noticed that almost every other show provides an article for the winners and then the runner up and other notable contestants on the seasons often grab article space as well. So first and foremost, I figure if we can't have an article on the winner of every season, we're only hurting ourselves and taking WP:BLP1E too seriously.
BLP1E seems to be a little less drastic than we originally took it for. 1E seems to be more geared toward news incidents that are one event... receive media coverage for a week... and then vanish into the new archives. But a reality show as big as Survivor that receives the media coverage it does, going on 14 years and 28 seasons now... it's very easy to argue that at least the winners of every season deserve their own article.
Apparently, American Idol contestants all become notable enough for an article just for making the top 13 of their season. If that's the case, then we can definitely be a little more lenient with who we have redirected because of BLP1E. The general notability guidelines state that significant media coverage for an individual constitutes notability. Gloss • talk 00:41, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
I see. We just can't be too flexible; the contestants need to be noteworthy to have their own page. "You can't be just an average Ringo to have a Wikipedia page, you have to earn it." (Dobbyelf62) Dobbyelf62 (talk) 01:14, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
Uh, did you just quote yourself? :P I agree though, but I've been taking it one person at a time. If you disagree with any, please feel free to bring them to my attention! Gloss • talk 01:18, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

Sounds alright. Dobbyelf62 (talk) 15:57, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

@Survivorfan1995: I'd recommend you read what I wrote in this section, please. Gloss • talk 01:28, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

These are good points. But I've got mixed feelings about every winner having their own article. On one hand, you're right that winning a TV show as popular as Survivor probably makes one at least somewhat notable (at least more so than some other game show winners). But on the other hand, not all of the winners have significant coverage about their lives beyond Survivor. I mean, Tom Westman doesn't exactly seem to have much coverage of his life beyond Survivor, like Richard Hatch or Rob and Amber. So the result is thus an article with mostly the same info as is in the Palau and Heroes vs. Villains articles. Just in this article, Westman talks about how he doesn't wanna pursue anymore fame beyond Survivor. So to me WP:BLP1E still does apply here: sources only cover Westman in the context of Survivor, his role within Survivor wasn't exactly very substantial, and his life beyond that is not well documented in multiple reliable sources. But of course, that's just me, and I'm definitely willing to change my mind. I'd be happy to discuss it further if u want. Survivorfan1995 (talk) 01:50, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
Perhaps it's best we go along with this AfD to see how others feel about it. But after Todd's AfD and a few other winners' AfDs, if this one is kept, it's likely safe to say that all winners are notable enough for inclusion. Gloss • talk 01:53, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
Okay, that sounds good. I don't have any intentions on nominating any more articles. Although if u really think every winner should have their own article, should Natalie White have her own article? Survivorfan1995 (talk) 01:57, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
For winning her season, I believe so. Gloss • talk 02:00, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Template:Morgan Freeman sidebar[edit]

Hi there! I just removed the TfD template from Template:Morgan Freeman sidebar, which you added, because the template doesn't appear to be under discussion at February 17's log. It looks like you made a bulk nomination of a bunch of sidebars like this at TfD, but you didn't include Morgan Freeman with that nomination. Just to let you know. Regards, Mz7 (talk) 17:08, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

@Mz7: Thanks for the heads up. I actually ended up nominating a bunch of those sidebars for deletion but combined all the nominations here. So that one is being considered for deletion, still. Gloss • talk 17:38, 23 February 2014 (UTC)


Is it really necessary force these to be relisted at AfD for three weeks straight just get to the same outcome? Participation in fiction related AfDs had gone down recently, so it takes a good while to actually get anywhere. Another likely possibility would just end up being the closing admin saying to use normally merging procedures, which would lead us right back to here anyway. These characters are not ones that have received significant coverage as far as I've been able to tell, and they have plenty of detail on the character list. It would be one thing if you were objecting based on believing in the possibility for potential improvement, but you seem to be objecting solely based on the process instead. In that case, could you please just let them be redirected until another person objects? TTN (talk) 02:07, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

@TTN: I'm not objecting based on the process, I disagree with the merging itself. I'm sorry for the hassle but I don't see why those articles should be merged. They're not written very well but they shouldn't be merged because of poor writing. Gloss • talk 02:10, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
Do you have some sort of idea as how they can conform to WP:N? I looked up sources for a random assortment of them, but none turned up anything substantial. Caitlin Ryan was the only one with any real world information in the first place, but that isn't really enough to count towards anything. It's one thing to think that they should deserve articles and another for them to actually deserve articles. TTN (talk) 02:19, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
Right, but there is a chance I'm not the only one who thinks they deserve articles, which is what the AfD will help with. If consensus is that they don't, then so be it. And I can look for sources and what not (don't have time right now) but my personal ability to find sources or not shouldn't affect whether or not the articles are kept as they are or taken to AfD. Gloss • talk 02:23, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
If you believe the possibility exists but aren't completely sure, can't we just compromise with redirects? That leaves the history there, and it allows for anyone interested with the proper resources to reestablish them later. It would be one thing if they were more active, but they all have had barely ten edits in the last three years (as I imagine most interested parties migrated to Wikia). I don't see AfDs doing anything to drum up support to improve them. It will just be the scant inclusionist voting keep simply because "all major characters deserve articles" and anyone else voting to redirect because there is no particular reason that they need to be deleted in lieu of a redirect. It's just an unnecessary, drawn-out process that will lead in a giant circle or nowhere in the end. TTN (talk) 02:34, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
I really can't bring myself to agree to the redirects. I agree with the "all major characters deserve articles" argument. Gloss • talk 06:14, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

Survivor template[edit]

Hi! I'm still not so sure about the Survivor template as it is. I mean Panama, Cook Islands, and Fiji are now completely absent from it and there's a lot of wasted space. Are u absolutely sure this way's better? Survivorfan1995 (talk) 05:40, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

I'll go take a look now if I left those out. I didn't mean to, of course. And I personally do think so because it allows a lot more room to work with for future seasons. The other way, we would've needed to add another row by next season, likely and it was already ridiculously long as it was. Gloss • talk 06:12, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

Portal links[edit]

Do u really think those aren't necessary? I was the one who added all those in the first place because I thought they were kinda like adding categoies. If u think they're not necessary, I can go and remove all of em right now. Survivorfan1995 (talk) 21:15, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

@Survivorfan1995: They're not really necessary. If you look at most BLP's, they aren't there. Gloss • talk 21:16, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
Alright, I think I got 'em all. Thanks! Survivorfan1995 (talk) 21:29, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
Sounds good, appreciate it :) Gloss • talk 21:31, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

A beer for you![edit]

Export hell seidel steiner.png Didn't want you to be left out ;) Vjmlhds 22:08, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

List of WWE personnel[edit]

I'm assuming good faith with your actions at this page and assuming you walked away from it because you realised you were edit warring. I'd like to remind you that you don't have to do more than 3 reverts in 24 hours to be guilty of edit warring - that's just a bright red line which makes it pretty clear you're edit warring. Anyway I've just blocked three editors for edit warring on that page. I suggest you don't try and take advantage of their blocks unless you also wish to find yourself blocked. That probably comes across a bit harsher than I mean it to but I wanted to be fair and spell out the possible consequences if you did continue even though I believe you probably won't. Dpmuk (talk) 01:37, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

@Dpmuk: Fair enough, thanks for the note. Gloss • talk 02:32, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
Well, we can name an article a Good Article or a Featured Article, so why not something for the opposite end of the spectrum? Vjmlhds (talk) 17:22, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
@Vjmlhds: Those are recognized class levels on Wikipedia, not awards. They go through months of hard work and processes to become GA/FAs. Barnstars and other awards are meant for other users, not articles. You've been on Wikipedia for years, I didn't think I'd have to actually remind you that a talk page is not a forum and is strictly meant for discussion about an article. Come on, please find something more productive to do than putting an award on an article's talk page. Gloss • talk 18:06, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
Sometimes statements need to be made. Now that it was made, I made a proposal to (hopefully) put an end to all the conflicts by essentially removing the tumor that made the article so toxic to start with. Take a gander if you like and put in your $0.02. Vjmlhds (talk) 23:03, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
Thank you for the invitation but I no longer wish to be involved, and I'll leave it at that. Gloss • talk 23:08, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

Discussion about eliminating or keeping Category:Hispanic and Latino American women in television[edit]

You are invited to join the discussion at WP:Categories for discussion/Log/2014 February 26#Category:Hispanic and Latino American women in television. Peaceray (talk) 05:53, 28 February 2014 (UTC) Peaceray (talk) 05:53, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

More on Survivor template[edit]

As you can tell, the Survivor template is becoming more and more bulky. With more seasons means more contestants. In other words, the template will only get bigger. I propose we eliminate every all star season (Survivor: All Stars, Survivor: Heroes vs. Villains etc). This way, the template will be less overwhelming for a reader. Your thoughts?

BTW, what are your thoughts on this season so far? Dobbyelf62 (talk) 20:20, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

@Dobbyelf62: It doesn't come across as a big problem to me. Those were two huge seasons for the show, so removing them wouldn't really benefit us much. I personally think it's fine for now. About the season, I'm loving it so far! Gloss • talk 21:53, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Mike Halmo[edit]

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 22:47, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi! Survivor Total Votes[edit]

Why not consider the total votes?, It is relevant to statistical information. It also reveals that player got more votes during the season and also winners who had no vote. eg Sandra in Pearl Island

Please don't delete my comments[edit]

as you did here. Thank you. JMHamo (talk) 23:26, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

@JMHamo: Didn't do that, page must've glitched. Gloss • talk 23:29, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
I have never encountered that 'glitch' before, but I will AGF. JMHamo (talk) 23:31, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
@JMHamo: I'd recommend in the future you assume good faith first that there was an edit conflict issue or a page glitch, which are both very common at those noticeboards, and simply re-add your comments. In the mean time, I'll grab some diffs of this glitch for you, so you're more aware in the future. Gloss • talk 23:33, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Take it to WP:VPT if you think there's a system issue then. JMHamo (talk) 23:36, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

@JMHamo: I instead found a diff of an editor adding a note to the AN/ANI header about the glitch. See here. Happens to both AN and ANI every once in a while, and also is not a cause for alarm. Gloss • talk 23:38, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
OK, thanks. P.S. I am not alarmed but think there could be more Admins around doing stuff smile JMHamo (talk) 23:43, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

New York Islanders' Alternate Captains[edit]

The Islanders' website is notarious for not updating it's roster. For the 2008-2009 season, I recalled that Mike Sillinger was named as an Alternate Captain, but was injured. Doug Weight and Richard Park were alternating while he was out. After Sillinger's return, the site never listed Sillinger nor Park with an A eventhough Silly, Park and Weight were alternating. I had to prove that this was in fact the case with the NHL game sheets. I did not list the replacement alternates in the current NHL captains and alternates page (which is not supposed to list temporary alternates). Thank you Raul17 (talk) 03:33, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

@Raul17: Glad to see you do talk... you never responded after that barnstar I sent your way. (ouch).. but I do see both sides to this. The Islanders roster is our official source, and while someone may be wearing the A... does that make them an official alternate captain if the official team website doesn't acknowledge it? If there is an NHL source to back it up outside of the Islanders' roster, then it would be fine I suppose. Gloss • talk 03:37, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
I am so sorry! Real life time don't give me enough time to acknowledge. Very sorry and thank you!! I don't think I do half as much as the other editors do and they deserve it more than I!! I do need to learn how to make one so I can hand them out! Before Andy Mac's trade, I believe that Visnovsky & Nielsen were going to alternate in place of Tavares, but now I see Hamonic wore an A with Nielsen on the road. I will wait for a few more games. If the team does annouce the replacement alternates, would that be enough for the current NHL captains and alternates page? Thank you again! Raul17 (talk) 04:26, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
@Raul17: No worries, only messing with you :P and yes, that sounds fair. Thanks for discussing it with me! Gloss • talk 04:29, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
I did find an announcement here, that Hamonic has been announced as an alternate captain. We need to wait for an announcement if Nielsen is one. (talk) 05:50, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
Ok, thanks for the source. Gloss • talk 12:08, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
The Islanders website now lists Nielsen as well. (talk) 04:38, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
I see, thanks for making the updates! Gloss • talk 04:39, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

Explanation of removal[edit]

Hi Gloss,

I noticed you restored my removal of the "Hispanic and Latino American women in television" category from pages and thought I should explain further. When categories have been nominated for deletion, I've often seen a bot remove them from the pages that include them. This could be a fault of the bot, though, so I'll leave them for now. That is all.

XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 04:31, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

@XXSNUGGUMSXX: No problem. If the bot is removing a category and the deletion or merger discussion has not been finished it's likely an error, and leaving the bot's owner a message would be helpful. It's the same thing with those links on the Katy Perry book. Links to articles or templates or pictures or categories, etc should not be removed if there is a deletion discussion going on still about it. Thanks for explaining, though! Gloss • talk 04:39, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
Sure thing! XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 04:43, 6 March 2014 (UTC)


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DYK for Fly Away (The Following)[edit]

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Catching Fire[edit]

Thanks for catching my first oops on the catching fire. I had cut Prim to move it to order it as billed in the film then pressed save instead of preview, you undid it before I had fixed the cast list (which made another error). I think it is all fixed now. Thank you also for removing the citations from the cast. I did not know if there was a reason for them being there now that the film was released.AbramTerger (talk) 23:59, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

@AbramTerger: Sorry, didn't know you accidentally removed that. And yeah no problem, I agree that they weren't needed anymore. Gloss • talk 00:02, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
I understand why, there are many vandalizers on the boards. As I watch DVDs and old films I have been trying to clean and update pages while I have the primary source of the film there to check the details. Take care.AbramTerger (talk) 00:07, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

Survivor: Cagayan[edit]

I noticed this revert [1]. Preview that just aired on CBS indicates that the swap will take place in Episode 4. All Survivor Wikipedia precedent says we can update the contestants list in advanced. Here is one recent discussion on the matter Talk:Survivor:_One_World/Archive_1. I am reverting your revert. Please do not repeat it and start an edit war. Thanks! Thegreyanomaly (talk) 01:15, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

@Thegreyanomaly: I will revert your edit again as you're not right here! It's a complete guess and violating WP:CRYSTAL to place that column there. Just because Jeff Probst said "drop your buffs" does not mean a tribe swap. You're assuming that. We're likely all assuming that but it was never directly said and we have no sources confirming this. Therefore the edits violate our verifiability policy. It's also against table guidelines to have an empty column in a table. So I will revert if you revert again as I've just cited policies this edit violates and your only basis for reverting is "it's been done like that before." Gloss • talk 01:18, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
That discussion about One World also was based on a video where the players' new tribe buffs were shown. The column for switched tribes was not left empty on the One World article and should not be left empty here. Gloss • talk 01:20, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
They do not violate WP:Crystal Ball. See last season's talk page Talk:Survivor:_Blood_vs._Water and Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)/Archive_111#Proposed_amendment_to_WP:SPOILERS. Jeff's previews are reliable sources. Furthermore he also said, Brains Beauties and Brawn are no more. Thegreyanomaly (talk) 01:24, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
@Thegreyanomaly: First of all, that doesn't mean anything. Maybe he's dropping the names "Brains" "Beauty" and "Brawn". Maybe he's changing buff colors. It's all obvious to a fan but otherwise speculation because it cannot be verified. And again I bring up, an empty column in a table is not welcomed if avoidable, which it easily is here. This can easily wait until next week. Gloss • talk 01:26, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
You are violating WP:SPOILERS. I am sorry, but there is no ambiguity. Never has Jeff said drop your buffs and there has not been a tribal swap or merge. It is all in your head. I am going to do the proper thing and take this to the talk page and another user. Thegreyanomaly (talk) 01:31, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
I completely agree that there will be a swap next week, but that's because I'm a fan. There has been no official announcement that it will happen though, he hasn't said "there will be a tribe mix up". You're violating WP:V. This isn't a spoiler.. it's unconfirmed speculation based on a preview. Gloss • talk 01:36, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
We have used this much evidence before, and admin's (who probably have better grasps of policy that standard users) have seconded it. CBS's previews are considered reliable sources and are verifiable. Just so you know as soon as I see CBS post a picture or video of someone clearly in an opposite tribe (e.g., a Brain and a Brawn with the same buff), I will cite and revert you. Thegreyanomaly (talk) 01:40, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
An administrator is somebody with extra tools on this website, not an almighty person who's opinion carries any more weight. The fact that an admin has seconded your opinion is irrelevant. What don't you understand about the fact that the current CBS preview does NOT contain information CONFIRMING a tribe swap..? You keep saying the same thing over and over again. And as soon as you see CBS post something like that, throw up a source and I'll gladly revert myself. But by saying that, you basically admit that it's currently unsourced, so thank you. The information can be added in prose form once it can be confirmed by a reliable source. Gloss • talk 01:45, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────Revert and risk violating the 3RR, be my guest. More than just a single admin, consensus has tolerated empty cells ([2], here is one example). See the village pump discussion linked above. A Survivor preview is reliable and verifiable, and using a preview to layout a tribal swap is not violation of any policy. Thegreyanomaly (talk) 01:52, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

What I meant was that if you provide a source, I'll gladly revert my own edits and put the information back in the article myself. But right now, you have no source. A preview is reliable and verifiable if it contains the information you're citing. That preview doesn't directly verify the information you're trying to cite. Gloss • talk 01:54, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
That is just your opinion, other users have gone with that much information and have had been fine with blank Swapped Tribe and Merged Tribe columns. I do not know if this is your first time editing a Survivor season page as it airs, but generally from my experience users are fine with empty swapped tribe and empty merged tribe columns, and have been fine to go on as little as "Drop your buffs" and "X and Y [and Z] are no more". Also, just because the source is not on the net yet, does not mean it is invalid, just hard to cite. The whole episode is not on the net yet, but that does not mean it is not a source Thegreyanomaly (talk) 02:00, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
I don't care, nor does Wikipedia that "other editors have been fine with it". Wikipedia has core verifiability policies we need to abide by. You keep repeating yourself and it's getting tiresome. We can keep this on the talk page of the article now. Gloss • talk 02:09, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

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Pitch Perfect 2[edit]

But it's still not filming, therefore it fails NFF. This wasnt in relation to the AFD. Rusted AutoParts 23:29, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

@Rusted AutoParts: Regardless, the AfD was closed under a month ago as keep. Gloss • talk 23:42, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

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Quick message, might not matter, but I think that the line separating the info from the votes (I have to thank you for doing that, I've been doing that on my Survivor spreadsheets for quite some time. what survivor spreadsheets) would be better if it's black rather than dark grey. Also, I enjoy the inclusion of the day section but maybe it'd look a little better if the episode #s were marked with an ! rather than a |? Do as you please, enjoy your day. ~ Totaldramaman (talk · contribs) 03:42, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

@Totaldramaman: I like the black! I'll have to make that switch soon, I appreciate the feedback as well :) and I'm not sure how I'd feel about the episode #s, is there a reason? My only concern is because the episode number isn't exactly the most significant part of the column. The ! is usually just used for a column or row header. Gloss • talk 03:45, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

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Something to Remember[edit]

Gloss, may I tempt you in reviewing the above Madonna article for GA? —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 13:54, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

@IndianBio: This go around, I'll unfortunately have to decline. Real life has kept me busy lately and I've just been popping in and out, so I'm not particularly looking to commit to anything (like a review) right now. I'm very sorry, and I hope it gets reviewed soon! Gloss • talk 14:13, 24 March 2014 (UTC)
Oh that's absolutely fine dear. Hope your real life gets sorted and we get you back here regularly again :) —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 14:17, 24 March 2014 (UTC)
Haha, I wouldn't count on it.. unfortunately my editing pattern may only get worse from here, due to work, but I'll be around as much as possible on my days off (like today, phew!) Gloss • talk 14:20, 24 March 2014 (UTC)
I am reviewing it now. XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 19:06, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

Survivor: Cagayan[edit]

I'm a little confused as to why my edit was undone. My edit fixed the capitalization on the phrase "Voted Out". If you look at all the past Survivor pages, both Voted and Out are capitalized. The way it is now, looks really sloppy and unprofessional. I think my edit should be reinstated as it makes the overall look better and less sloppy. GTAdkins (talk) 20:06, 27 March 2014 (UTC)GTAdkins

#Survivor revisited[edit]

Just wondering if I should implement the changes we talked about here in the Cagayan page. ~ Totaldramaman (talk · contribs) 00:46, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

@Totaldramaman: Yes absolutely, if you'd like! I'm sure I would have got to it eventually, but if you're willing and able to get on it now, please do :) Gloss • talk 03:58, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

I posted this in the article's talk page. Hopefully before the logo gets tagged, can someone capture the BvsBvsB logo and change the background to white? Steelbeard1 (talk) 22:17, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

You're the only one who thinks it should be changed, so you're welcome to try doing that.. Gloss • talk 22:20, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
The problem is I am not skilled at editing graphics so I am hoping someone else who has the skills with JPG editing software can white out the background so it can be utilized in a Wikipedia article. Steelbeard1 (talk) 00:01, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

File question[edit]

Hi Gloss,

I wanted to say thanks for getting this photo for the Lady Gaga Live at Roseland Ballroom. One thing I'm just curious of is this: did you by any chance manage to capture a shot where the front of Gaga's face could be more clearly seen? If so, I would recommend uploading that.

XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 00:07, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

Of course if I find one better I'll upload it. But we can't really be picky here, a cruddy camera phone's camera can only capture so much! Gloss • talk 02:36, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
I know the feel, bro. XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 04:13, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
I did find one, though. Gloss • talk 04:29, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
I noticed that :). If you don't mind, I'm gonna just have that one stay in the article. Kudos for being able to get shots at what I'm sure was quite a crowded event! Which night(s) did you attend? XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 04:55, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
Gloss I have a question. Which camera phone are you using? Would you have the original resolution of the images? I'm asking because I want to update the Metadata of the images in the commons. —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 06:32, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
I went Wednesday night (April 2nd) and I think both can find a good spot in the article XX, it's a decent sized article, so two images wouldn't hurt at all. IB-An iPhone 4, and I don't think I have that. Gloss • talk 12:55, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
Gloss, what I meant was that would you upload the higher resolution of the images if possible? I thought iphone 4 took pics in high-res? —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 15:21, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
I've been able to take high-res pics with iPhone 4. Gloss, my guess is that you couldn't take high-res due to distance/zoom or something. XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 15:47, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
The lights at a concert just mess with it. Gloss • talk 21:39, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
Yes indeed they do. XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 23:06, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

Survivor: Cagayan redux[edit]

Totaldramaman is continuing to revert the BvsBvsB logo in the version you like despite the fact that it's being used in the Ponderosa videos and he did not explain his reason despite the new evidence. Steelbeard1 (talk) 12:56, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

Totaldramaman reverted yet again WITHOUT EXPLAINING WHY. I don't want to get into an edit war with him, so can you help out? Steelbeard1 (talk) 15:46, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

It isn't the version "I like" - the image you provided isn't a good enough quality logo. Gloss • talk 01:19, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

Survivor voting tables, past seasons[edit]

Hey there Gloss! I'm writing to you to inquire about how voting tables have been setup for seasons where they are large enough to disrupt the margin on the side of the page. I understand breaking the single voting table into two prevents this and I like that the margin isn't messed with in this situation. However, in my opinion, I think the empty space it leaves on the right side of the page is too large and that we should consider turning it back into one table. If you look at the South Pacific and Philippines pages, I have merged them back into one table but reduced the text size to make it fit without messing up the margin. I'd appreciate any feedback you have on it and if you think we could do this for other seasons. Thanks! BlueDevil54 (talk) 21:28, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

@BlueDevil54: The split is helpful on iPhones and tablets and smaller computers, which are more commonly used than regular computers here in 2014. The tables still go far off the page for Philippines and South Pacific when I use Google Chrome. Gloss • talk 01:21, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

Awards and honors[edit]

The reason was to give credit to the players who received all-star honors. PensRule11385 • talk 19:22, 15 April 2014 (CST)

Oh, those are for references, I'll remove them when they're unused.