What is reason you keep posting the Ubuntu screenshot what represents the Gnome desktop environment to Operating system article "Unix and Unix-like Operating systems" part? The screenshot is not valid on that part, actually any of the market share information on that part is needed because the Dell+Ubuntu part can be keeped on Ubuntu article, Mandriva Linux + HP on Mandriva article etc. Screenshots are not informative on that article because it only is showing Ubuntu's designed theme and wallpaper for Gnome desktope environment and it has nothing to do with operating system, what the article is about to speak. Unless you can have screenshot of Linux working, what is actually impossible because Linux does not have UI itself, then you could post that screenshot there. As long that Ubuntu screenshots stays there, it is just promoting Ubuntu and article on that part is so on a very biased for Ubuntu. So why you add the screenshot of Gnome desktop as it would be about operating system, because it is not presenting operating system?— Golftheman (talk) 18:41, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
- First, is English your native language? If you know Portuguese or Spanish, we would communicate more easily.
- Second, I have been adding the screenshot!? Now that's backwards. We have a linux screenshot in that article since at least 2006-07-24. I do believe the screenshot is appropriate, and so do many other editors. I saw no discussion to justify the screenshot removal. I did see some inappropriate edit summaries such as "removing Ubuntu screenshot to prevent Ubuntu marketing". That's irrelevant. We should discuss if the screenshot is appropriate or not, istead of discussing whether it is marketing. If an article on microprocessors shows a picture of an Intel 386, should we remove that to "prevent Intel marketing" ?
- And more importantly: since you are changing a part of the article that is there for ages, and other editors disagree with you, you should discuss it in the talk page first. -- Jorge Peixoto (talk) 19:26, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
- Sorry no, I dont speak Portuguese or Spanish, English is my third language, and it should be writen in English so all other readers can follow to more easily, because this is English wikipedia. I redirect this discussion to article talk page, so others can follow it more easily and reply too. Golftheman (talk) 20:39, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
OS vs Kernel
You should head over to Talk:GNU/Linux_naming_controversy#Lead_section_edits with some of your wisdom, since people over there are convinced I'm full of OR. 126.96.36.199 (talk) 21:27, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
- By my opinion People defending GNU/Linux and claiming that Linux kernel isn't the operating system doesn't care at all about technology, they just want to follow their religion or own believes. They don't know how hardware and software works, what is really happening in circuits, as all what they see is a nice graphical user interface / command interface drawn with software and they believe what they see is all what they have. It is like trying explain to a pig about human anatomy, how can you do that when you don't even have a same language and pig doesn't comprehend what will be shown and presented? It would require that each and every GNU/Linux fanatic would forget everything they believe and the whole "computer" is explained from begin to them, from first analog computers to electronic and finally to digital ones (still talking about decades ago existed technology) what finally lead to complex software and computer development and design problems and challenges. It would really be easy of they would just have open mind. Golftheman (talk) 17:03, 1 February 2014 (UTC)