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AWB[edit]

Hi, I usurped from Shriram to Muon. I was granted permission to use AWB. Now I can't login with my new name. Shall I place a new request or is that just a bug and can you correct it? Here is the link that usurpedMuon 10:14, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

5pm[edit]

Hey!

I've deleted this article because it was made by a promotional account that was linked to promotional and paid editing. The sockpuppet investigation started on the 26th of October and the article was created on the 3rd of October - but given the numerous issues and source of the article, I thought it was the best judgement call.

Seeing as you restored it earlier, I thought I'd let you know. If you think I made the wrong decision, please let me know and we can talk. PanydThe muffin is not subtle 12:28, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

I nominated it for deletion. I wanted an independent person to review it, rather than me just doing it. So thanks, you have done that. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 21:18, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

DYK nomination of DNA base flipping[edit]

Symbol question.svg Hello! Your submission of DNA base flipping at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Philroc 15:54, 16 April 2014 (UTC) Look below my second review which was on the alt hook.

DYK for EETA 79001[edit]

Thanks from the wiki Victuallers (talk) 16:02, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

3775 page views

DYK for Ghost craters on Mercury[edit]

The DYK project (nominate) 10:34, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

4807 page views

A barnstar for you![edit]

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Great contributions at DYK. Thanks for being a solid and reliable editor. Victuallers (talk) 08:33, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Cleopatra Patera[edit]

The DYK project (nominate) 17:33, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Paraptosis[edit]

Symbol question.svg Hello! Your submission of Paraptosis at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Orlady (talk) 23:46, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Florence v. Shurtleff[edit]

Graeme, I just reverted your edit to this DYK nomination template.

First, because the template had been closed. As it says at the top, "Please do not modify this page."

Second, because you added new text below the bottom of the template. This means that your comment just shows up, ghost-like, on the T:TDYK page, though the template itself no longer appears because it is still closed.

Finally, there are clearly still issues in the reference listings, including 8, 9, 14, and 15, and they have not been addressed by the nominator/creator despite time having been given. I'm sure Muboshgu noted this fact when he reviewed the nomination over three weeks after Bundaberger's most recent edits.

You're certainly welcome to discuss this on the template talk page, article talk page, or WT:DYK, if you wish. However, the nomination template should remain closed unless a consensus emerges to reopen it. I would want Bundaberger to make a case for reopening, given the lack of response so far to the talk-page requests for action. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:08, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

BL Prrod[edit]

Don't forget: we can't undelete BLP Prod's at WP:REFUND :-)  the panda  ₯’ 11:01, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

It was not a BLP prod that I restored, and we can undelete if the requestor suggests they can reference it. That's why its a prod. But for a real BLP prod I would reset the timer to delete in a week if no improvement. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 11:21, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

Restore (temporarily)[edit]

Could you please temporarily restore the following: User:RachelRice/Sandbox, User:RachelRice/A, User:RachelRice/B, User:RachelRice/C, User:RachelRice/D, User:RachelRice/E, User:RachelRice/G, User:RachelRice/H, User:RachelRice/I, User:RachelRice/J, User:RachelRice/O, User:StarzInHerEyes/sandbox, User:StarzInHerEyes/A, User:StarzInHerEyes/B, User:StarzInHerEyes/C, User:StarzInHerEyes/D, User:StarzInHerEyes/E, User:StarzInHerEyes/F, so I can move them to my own wiki? I spent a lot of time on these pages! I can nominate them for deletion once I'm done saving them. Thanks --RachelRice (talk, contribs) 11:38, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

I have requested this to the administrator who deleted the page, with no luck – he told me to ask somebody else. --RachelRice (talk, contribs) 11:38, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

Email[edit]

I have sent you an email. --RachelRice (talk, contribs) 22:20, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Chloride-bearing deposits on Mars[edit]

The DYK project (nominate) 00:02, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

  • 1268 views

DYK for Paraptosis[edit]

The DYK project (nominate) 16:02, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

  • 3380 views

DYK for Geodynamics of Venus[edit]

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

  • 2211 views

DYK for Minigene[edit]

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 08:02, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

  • 742 views

loading images[edit]

Hi Graeme,

how are you? I am having a difficult time trying to figure out the copyright for the image i have uploaded. I have created my own but used tips from a scientific article. Also, when i try to tag the copyright, how do i do this? Mishasubz (talk) 02:18, 25 April 2014 (UTC) thanks Misha

Hi, Mishasubz. It's nice to include links when asking for help like this. I was able to find your file, it is File:Process_of_preparing_amino_allyl-labelled_cDNA.jpg. The source you got it from his here. It's a little bit close to the original, but I think it's different enough not to worry too much. You are right that you should tag it with a license. I see that you tried to do that, and put {{CC-BY-MS-3.0}} on the page. I'm not sure where you got that from, but you can see that it is red -- which means it's a broken link. There's a list at Wikipedia:File_copyright_tags/Free_licenses#Creative_Commons. I took the liberty of changing it to {{cc-by-3.0}}. If that's not the license you want, make sure you change it to something that doesn't show up as a red link. Klortho (talk) 01:26, 27 April 2014 (UTC)
Hi,Klortho, thank you so much for your input and help, greatly appreciated!Mishasubz (talk) 05:13, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

Regarding AWB[edit]

Hello Graeme, I saw you active at AWB so coming to you directly. Actually I want to use WP:AWB but I cannot access it, since my name is not added here. It's given that any sysop can add a user to that list. So, I thought if you can add my name. Thank you for your help. Jim Carter (talk) 03:59, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Geodynamics on Mars[edit]

Symbol question.svg Hello! Your submission of Geodynamics on Mars at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! — Maile (talk) 14:25, 26 April 2014 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Chihiro number[edit]

See WP:ANI - the sources used to establish the name Chihiro numbers don't exist, this was an elaborate hoax certainly by an experienced editor. A quick search for " Mueller, Joseph (2001). "Implications of the Chihiro Numbers on Computational Timespeed". New York Journal of Mathematics 7: 278–289." and/or "Ghentsky, Christian (2003). "Comparative Growth Rates of Chihiro Numbers and Derived Sequences". Journal of Integer Sequences 6 (3): 53–59." would have established these were fake references. Dougweller (talk) 14:30, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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DYK for Mountains of Io[edit]

The DYK project (nominate) 16:02, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

31200 hits - don't know why so big. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 11:46, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

[edit]

Since you were the only to comment on my call for assistance, I was wondering if you could explain more about adding the rest of the logo. If possible, could you possibly do the changes yourself? I really want to do it myself so I could learn but I don't want to screw up the entire logo.

Here is the link to the logo on Wikipedia:


Here is the link from La Patilla's website:

Thanks for your response!--Zfigueroa (talk) 20:01, 29 April 2014 (UTC)

Halite[edit]

You might want to comment at Talk:Halite where there is a proposal to merge halide and NaCl. Well intentioned but naive, in my view. --Smokefoot (talk) 16:06, 4 May 2014 (UTC)

Luckily not halide with NaCl which would have been even worse! Graeme Bartlett (talk) 20:54, 4 May 2014 (UTC)

Acetic acid[edit]

I reverted the edit from Plasmic physics.--Smokefoot (talk) 12:18, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

Good, it looked dubious. But I also find that the references there do not support the statement either way, they support the dehydration products fact. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 21:50, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

User: 121.219.230.54[edit]

Hello Graeme, Thank you for your temporary block on the above unregistered IP user. Frankly, I find that the edits are so offensive - a longer block might have been more appropriate? Kind regards, David, David J Johnson (talk) 17:29, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

My block reflects my guess as the time scale of the damage from this IP. I don't know how long the vandal will have this IP. However if they come back then a longer block is warranted. I won't protest anyone else extending the block anyway. Perhaps you want a revision deletion? Graeme Bartlett (talk) 21:48, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

Geodynamics of Mars[edit]

How much of the article do you think is copyvio? If a lot, some sort of tag should be placed on it. RockMagnetist (talk) 22:54, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

Your protection of Sid Dinsdale[edit]

Hey there! I've increased your protection on this article to full, rather than template. This matches what you said you'd applied at WP:RFPP, I'm assuming this was a misclick. Hope that's OK with you! GedUK  12:33, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

I should have used the correct notice at WP:RFPP. I don't know if template editors will do this sort of work to update pages on request though. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 12:36, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
Dear editors User:Ged UK and User:Graeme Bartlett - you (understandably) put a lock on the Sid Dinsdale page. However, I believe the lock should have been placed on the version prior to the changes made by anonymous user with IP address "68.13.65.33" as they included the assertion that "To date, Sid and Dawn Dinsdale have contributed over 93% of their federal political contributions to Republicans," without providing a source to that claim. I would request that this line be deleted during the lock on this page.
Please note that I did request a valid source for this claim in my original revisions of it:
03:11, 6 May 2014‎ SunlightWriter (talk | contribs)‎ . . (8,548 bytes) (-115)‎ . . (Undid revision 607265738 by 67.3.210.45 (talk)This assertion requires a source to be included. The general landing page for "Open Secrets" does not support this claim.)
03:17, 6 May 2014‎ SunlightWriter (talk | contribs)‎ . . (8,767 bytes) (-192)‎ . . (→‎Political Activity: This assertion requires a source to be included. The general landing page for "Open Secrets" does not support this claim.)
Thank you for your consideration. SunlightWriter (talk) 17:22, 6 May 2014 (UTC)SunlightWriter

DYK for DNA base flipping[edit]

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 21:53, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

1010 hits

Request page protection for Neymar[edit]

Hey Graeme. The Neymar article has high traffic and is frequently vandalised by ip users, and it's only going to get even more so with the World Cup coming up. Requesting page protection (possibly long term protection) as there won't be any let up. Thanks,Carlos Rojas77 (talk) 12:22, 14 May 2014 (UTC

Protected 3 months. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 12:57, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Jones College garland logo.png[edit]

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Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Stefan2 (talk) 20:35, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Intercrater plains on Mercury[edit]

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  • Graeme, this has been sitting for over two weeks since the review, so in case you didn't see it, I'm posting this now. Please get to it soon: none of the issues have been addressed, though the article has since been expanded a bit by its creator. Thank you. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:22, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
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Notification of a June AfC BackLog Drive[edit]

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Hello Graeme Bartlett:

WikiProject Articles for creation is holding a month long Backlog Elimination Drive!
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DYK for Inter-crater plains on Mercury[edit]

v/r - TP 18:41, 19 May 2014 (UTC) 18:48, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

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Mary_Jo_Foley[edit]

Thank you for the quick and swift action - much appreciated !-- (talk) 11:24, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

A kitten for you![edit]

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Thanks very much for your help on the JHU Molecular Biology course project this past semester. You gave really great feedback to us and to the students, and your reviews and comments were a huge help.

Klortho (talk) 15:04, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

Survey for editors who mentor newcomer[edit]

Dear Wikipedia Ambassador,

I am seeking input on your experience as a mentor to new Wikipedians. This survey is designed to provide insight for the development of a new mentorship support tool on Wikipedia. If you have a moment, please take this survey, it should not take more than 10 minutes of your time to complete.

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Thank you in advance for your participation, Gabriel Mugar 13:33, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

Request for comment[edit]

Hello there, a proposal regarding pre-adminship review has been raised at Village pump by Anna Frodesiak. Your comments here is very much appreciated. Many thanks. Jim Carter through MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 06:47, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

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In re PP edit controversy[edit]

…see interspersed italic comments, and final proposal at [1]. Written at the time, and just discovered as not posted. Cheers, and respect your involvement. Le Prof Leprof 7272 (talk) 20:16, 29 May 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for the quick affirming reply. We will see where it goes. The non-primary sources emphasis was to avoid things like cryospectroscopic (advanced pchem) results making their way in support too detailed interpretations of what goes on in basic chemical transformations (like the acid chloride prep, where I cite the Liverpool/Clayden stream of pedagogy). In any case, cheers, and we will see. Le Prof Leprof 7272 (talk) 21:38, 29 May 2014 (UTC)
And for that purpose I support secondary sources. The problem with primary sources can be drawing conclusions they don't make, using the speculation contained therein, the findings are unimportant, or they later prove to be wrong. Many of my writings use primary sources because the secondary sources are not available to me, or do not exist on the topic. The secondary or tertiary sources are often reviews in paywalled articles or in textbooks also not available. (GB?)
Primary sources have a place, but the trend has to be away from them over time. These days, Google books is an exceptional place for book chapters, and for reviews. And you are right, chemistry as a field has been, and will continue to be very slow to open up its publications (for some good reasons I think). So, if you find a good review source, still add what you can from the abstract and title, and add the citation (even if if opaque, at least to further reading.) These are improvements, and others of us can come along and pull further material, once the source has been ID'd. Meanwhile, as a way point, primary articles have to do. Just realize, that the most easily accessible article are that way for a reason. JACS is JACS, and Angewandte is Angewandte. No getting around their quality, though closed they are. Le Prof Leprof 7272 (talk) 00:33, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

AWB requests[edit]

I would like to appreciate you for handling the AWB requests.

I was thinking if the conditions of AWB' access can be made harder. There are number of semi-automated programs, such as WPCleaner, AutoEd, etc. There are scripts of number of users. If AWB' access has been made harder, I think we will probably see more constructive editing to wikipedia as well as any edit from AWB. OccultZone (Talk) 03:17, 30 May 2014 (UTC)

I am unclear what you are saying here, are you saying that getting AWB has become harder, or are you asking me to make it harder? Those semiautomated scripts I count as automated editing so I expect to see enough non-automated editing to prove the person can edit Wikipedia correctly. So people that make grammatical errors or spelling mistakes all the time should not be using AWB. Anyway a conversation about this should really get a consensus on a project talk page rather than just you and me deciding. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 08:24, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
I asked if it can be made harder. Not that it is so hard to get. It will be a good idea to bring it to the talk page. I will first discuss it with another admin. Thanks. OccultZone (Talk) 13:42, 30 May 2014 (UTC)

The Cirque circus![edit]

You are far better qualified than me to add sense to the categorisation of this topic. So in your copious free time... Fluvial cirques- I am thinking of Cirque de Navacelles and the two Cirque du Bout du Monde. Each time anyone does work on cats- we end up with links to glacial landforms and the fluvial ones are ommitted. Playing Monty Python music -- Clem Rutter (talk) 15:33, 30 May 2014 (UTC)

I suppose that means we need a category:Fluvial cirques. Fluvial cirque has no article, so it is really just a terminology mistake? Or a real kind of landform. Also Cirque du Bout du Monde does not say what kind it is. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 21:45, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
There are loads of terms floating around commons:Category:Cirques in France give a few more. Steephead valley, Récullée and more, from what I can see on commons- a lot of the material is mislabelled. I am not sure if it was the Côte d'Or Bout de Monde that I camped in two decades ago that was fluvial in formation- we drank directly from the stream and breakfasted on figs from the tree collected by a compliant German ten year old.-- Clem Rutter (talk) 22:27, 30 May 2014 (UTC)

Why attention?[edit]

This can't be a coincidence. Even as I am proposing to get rid of the attention flag, you add one to Talk:Cryovolcano - the first that has been added in years, as far as I know. Why? RockMagnetist (talk) 15:18, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

I suppose that we should go through the list demanding attention, the reasons are on the talk page. I think I have marked three for attention, one needs checking for NPOV. Cryovolcano wanted an expert on the topic to check content. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 21:44, 31 May 2014 (UTC)
But the point of the discussion I started is that there is always a better way, usually involving a more specific tag on the article page, for example, {{NPOV}} and {{Expert-subject}}. If you think otherwise, let's discuss it at WT:GEOL first. Otherwise, it might end up being wasted effort. RockMagnetist (talk) 21:54, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

Category:Spontaneous fires[edit]

Is "Spontaneous fires" really a good name for a category? There are conflicting arguments about what is regarded as a "spontaneous fire" - it certainly could be added that most fires are spontaneous - and some of the articles added to Category:Spontaneous fires don't seem appropriate members of the category. Ateshgah of Baku is about a temple and is rather vague about how the fires in the temple were started. There's no evidence in Burning Mountain that says the fire was spontaneous. It wasn't until 1829 that the fire was determined to be a coal seam fire and nobody seems to know how it started. Even the source of the Centralia mine fire is not exactly known. Coal seam fire only says coal seam fires "often started". It doesn't say that all coal seem fires are spontaneous. --AussieLegend () 13:18, 1 June 2014 (UTC)

It is supposed to be for fires that are permanent and in the natural environment. I suspect most were started by humans though. The temple ones appear to be based on a previous natural gas fire. Can you think of a better name? I took the name from the section in eternal flame. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 21:39, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
Perhaps something like Category:Persistent naturally-fueled fires?  Unician   05:26, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
Spontaneous is generally taken to mean "sudden, without warning". The use of spontaneous in eternal flame is questionable because some of the examples used can't be regarded as spontaneous. Coal doesn't suddenly combust, it takes some source to heat the coal before a fire occurs. Unician's proposal seems more than reasonable. --AussieLegend () 09:00, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
It does sound better, but it is still a bit verbose. Perhaps Category:Persistent naturally fires could have enough meaning. I will ask at the Geology project talk page. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 09:49, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
Good choice, and less verbose than my original suggestion. Face-smile.svg  Unician   15:18, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
I still prefer your suggestion. If I walk up to a natural gas vent with a match and light the gas stream, the resultant flame is a persistent man-made fire, not a persistent natural fire. --AussieLegend () 15:39, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Proposed modification[edit]

The modification that you had proposed for the DYK rules, the whole discussion seemed to have went nowhere. I would like to know that what can be done about that. Thanks for proposing though. OccultZone (Talk) 17:17, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

There is a proposal to have a proposal at User talk:Viriditas#DYK proposal. I think we just need to get all the interest in one spot. Talk:Main page is not the place for that sort of detailed discussion. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 22:36, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
You had commented on the "Talk:DYK", which is very relevant for this issue. The user talk page you've referred, well that's is where you would've got to know about the proposed modification. I shall wait for some hours or days, and I will propose the final voting. We are probably close enough to the resolution on the talk page of DYK. OccultZone (Talk) 00:44, 9 June 2014 (UTC)
Replied there. Hopefully a consensus can be gained in matter of days or even hours. Got one more proposal for a wholly different subject, check Wikipedia talk:Did you know#Regarding orphans. OccultZone (Talk) 12:01, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
The discussion has been transferred to an archive by a bot. I guess, most of the people supported the proposed rewording. Furthermore, the 'oppose' votes really had no solid argument. Those who joined for leaving comment(like Carter), they could still recognize the side effects. What you think? Thanks OccultZone (TalkContributionsLog) 11:24, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

See the man[edit]

See the atropisomer article, to see if you like where it went with my edit. All your concerns not yet addressed. Going for basic content, citation, and appearance improvements first. If the subject is one of real interest, see the added presentation from the Stoltz group at Caltech under Further reading. Le Prof Leprof 7272 (talk) 00:25, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

Thank you, That was a substantial improvement, making the text much clearer. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 21:11, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

RFC for Template:Geographic reference[edit]

Hi Graeme, because we were involved in this recent discussion involving a template in mass use with a number of citation references, I'd like your input at an RfC I've started regarding Template:Geographic reference which is another template in much more use that also contains citation references (as ref tags) but in a similar mindset as the Lunar Crater references one. Thanks. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 22:16, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you![edit]

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For doing such a great job tweaking WikiProject Geology/Candidates for inclusion and adding hundreds of articles to the project. RockMagnetist (talk) 21:21, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

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DYK for Aspergillomarasmine A[edit]

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DYK for Fluorine azide[edit]

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14:58:23, 29 June 2014 review of submission by Blitzenrupff[edit]


This is a request for guidance on how I might clarify some of the material that would seem to fulfill the Notability Guidelines for Acadmic Journals.

Blitzenrupff (talk) 14:58, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

Dear Graeme,

Thanks for reviewing my the article, "Double Helix: A Journal of Critical Thinking and Writing." I was wondering if you could give me some additional guidance on how to revise the article in order for it to meet the notability criteria for academic journals. My first question has to do with The WAC Clearinghouse at Colorado State University. It is the primary scholarly exchange for WAC research. While it publishes some material (not Double Helix), it is also a database for scholarly and pedagogical research. Double Helix is one of only seven academic journals that has been selected by The WAC Clearinghouse/Colorado State University for inclusion on the exchange. This would seem to satisfy the criteria #1 for notability: The journal is considered by reliable sources to be influential in its subject area. Without knowing what The WAC Clearinghouse is, readers might not realize this. I posted an external link to The WAC Clearinghouse, but are there additional steps I might take in the article to convey more about The WAC Clearinghouse? My second question has to do with criteria 3# for notability: The journal has a historic purpose or has a significant history. That the journal emerges out of the formation of the nation's first regional WAC association would seem to make it part of the unfolding history of the WAC/WID movement in the U.S. This is chronicled in the referenced article (as a first-hand account by the author) and in the external link to NEWACC. Is there a way that I might further clarify the history to a reader unfamiliar with the WAC movement in the U.S.? Last question: Could you point to something in, for example, the Wikipedia entry for Comparative Literature Studies, which makes it appropriate for Wikipedia, but which my article lacks for Double Helix? Comp Lit Studies seems to be a typical example of an academic journal in Wikipedia, which I used as a model for writing my entry. Thanks for your help, Graeme--much appreciated! Best, Blitzenrupff

22:22:58, 29 June 2014 review of submission by Blitzenrupff[edit]


Follow-up

Blitzenrupff (talk) 22:22, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

Hi Gaeme,

I understand that the reference--the article published in Double Helix by Smart--might not be construed as independent, and therefore isn't enough to meet criteria #3. I'm still a bit lost on criteria #1, though, which isn't a matter of referencing. (The WAC Clearinghouse is completely independent of Double Helix, if you were including that as a reference.) According to Wikipedia, meeting one of the criteria satisfies the standard for notability. What might I do differently to meet criteria #1? I can't figure out what specifically I'm missing for that one. (Quite a few entries for academic journals, e.g. Comparative Literature Studies, don't include any references at all.)

Thanks again, Blitzenrupff

23:26:15, 29 June 2014 review of submission by Blitzenrupff[edit]


Second follow-up

Blitzenrupff (talk) 23:26, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for your quick response, Graeme. As I mentioned in my first follow-up, The WAC Clearinghouse is not a publisher of the journal. The WAC Clearinghouse at Colorado State University is the authoritative exchange for national and international WAC scholarship. Archived journals (which were never published by The WAC Clearinghouse) are part of the database it maintains; current journals, such as Double Helix, are linked at the exchange because they have been selected by The Clearinghouse/CSU as the major journals in the field. While this is all common knowledge in the field, I do understand that a readership outside the field may not know this. Should I embed in the text of the entry a statement about WAC that conveys what it is to the reader? Or is the external link enough for an inquistive reader to follow-up on his/her own? Thanks (yet again!)--Blitzenrupff

00:25:09, 30 June 2014 review of submission by Blitzenrupff[edit]


Third follow-up

Blitzenrupff (talk) 00:25, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, Graeme. To be clear: According to Wikipedia, the journal must "meet any one of the following conditions, as substantiated through independent reliable sources":

1. The journal is considered by reliable sources to be influential in its subject area.

As you acknowledged earlier, The WAC Clearinghouse is reliable. Your concern was that it publishes the journal and that it is, therefore, not independent. As I clarified, it does not publish the journal. And given that The WAC Clearinghouse is the authority in the field, it is influential in the subject area.

Therefore, per your last response, that you are "looking for some other independent reference," I will add a second reference.

Thanks for walking me through the edits.

Enterprise Architect (Software) Deletion[edit]

Just seeking further advice on your comment posted on the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_undeletion/Archive_138#Enterprise_Architect_.28software.29

I have contacted Tom Morris (talk) and I did receive an initial response, but no follow up (over several weeks). You mentioned taking some other action, but I am a little lost as to whether to proceed with a request for un-deletion outside of the administrator. I would appreciate any insight on the path to proceed on. Leggattst (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 05:35, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Two possible steps:
  1. create a draft called Draft:Enterprise Architect (Software) with new content. Find reliable references to base this on. I know there are videos out there on the subject.
  2. request a deletion review over the deletion. I think that based on what was said that the consensus was delete, but really the topic deserves an article.
Graeme Bartlett (talk) 07:39, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
Much appreciated. I will follow up on both options. Leggattst (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 00:42, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

02:01:19, 3 July 2014 review of submission by Blitzenrupff[edit]


Follow-up to latest treview Blitzenrupff (talk) 02:01, 3 July 2014 (UTC) Hey Graeme,

References 1 and 2 both document that INWAC "endorsed" the "Statement of WAC Principles and Practices." Double Helix is one of only three journals selected by INWAC for Part Five of the "Statement of WAC Principles and Practices." Therefore, Double Helix, like each of the other elements that comprise the "Statement," is endorsed by INWAC. In addition, on pages 3-4, the Statement delineates "steps important for program directors when launching a successful and sustainable WAC program . . . 5. Learn from existing scholarship on WAC program administration. WAC scholarship exists on approaches to launching and sustaining WAC programs, on specific types of WAC initiatives, on student writing development in specific disciplines, on faculty development, and other issues pertinent to WAC. See the bibliography in Part 5 for specific resources." Therefore, Double Helix is a specific resource for program directors to learn from existing scholarship on WAC program administration. (Finally, the fact that a multitude of journals were not selected for the "Statement" issued by INWAC makes the inclusion of Double Helix a significant gesture to those familiar with the field.)

I am not disputing any facts here, but INWAC did not write much at all about the journal. If they had written a page or two about it, then that would count for notability. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 04:27, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

Why would the sheer number of pages matter, rather than what is actually expressed? If the same facts had been expressed in three pages, would the facts then matter more toward notability?! Given that the number of pages has nothing to do with the notability guidelines, and that this is an entirely arbitrary criteria you're introducing to the review process, is there a different administrator I can request to review the article? And/or another administrator who can review the history of this exchange?Blitzenrupff (talk) 03:19, 10 July 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Blitzenrupff (talkcontribs) 02:35, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

Take a read of WP:GNG. The basic requirement for notability is written about in multiple, reliable, independent and substantial sources. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 03:29, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

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Checkpage[edit]

On Checkpage I have added a request for registration for my other acc, named "Occults". Checkpage has backlog right now, so thought of letting you know about it. Thanks OccultZone (TalkContributionsLog) 08:21, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the alert, but there has been a back log for weeks there! Graeme Bartlett (talk) 12:46, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
But I need permission on that one, it is kinda urgent, :-| Because of the listas parameter backlog, I can make many edits on this one but I am doing something else, I can use other acc for those purposes(adding parameter, underlinking, etc). OccultZone (TalkContributionsLog) 12:58, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

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DYK for East Tasman Plateau[edit]

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Enterprise Architect (Software) posted for review[edit]

Thanks Graeme, for the earlier guidance. The page was restored for editing. I made some updates and have posted this as material for review. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Legattst/Enterprise_Architect_%28software%29 Thanks again for the guidance. Cheers, Leggattst (talk) 03:40, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

It is looking much better. Though can you find some more independent web sites? Graeme Bartlett (talk) 07:47, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

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Enterprise Architect (Software) update[edit]

Following up on your points above, I have added more external references to published models and removed some of sub-topics with internal references. I hope this fits the requirements. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Legattst/Enterprise_Architect_%28software%29

Thanks again. Leggattst (talk) 07:06, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

  • Great to see it is up! Thanks very much for your input. 61.9.139.216 (talk) 05:30, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

Precious again[edit]

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lolcat[edit]

Wikipedia-lolcat.jpg 1 2 Poveglia (talk) 15:12, 31 July 2014 (UTC) p.s. I found an imposter of Graeme_Campbell_(politician) who should probably be blocked.

See if disruptive editing occurs. As the user page was blanked, that may be enough to contain the situation. It was mainly a copyright infringement of the Jack of all trades page. Perhaps the user is called that as a name, or may be not. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 23:19, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
Thank you! If that user is called that as a name then he is insulting himself, which seems rather unlikely; but I think he has stopped now and the user page is deleted. If he comes back I will let you know.
BTW, when I start AutoWikiBrowser and try to log in it says "Poveglia is not enabled to use this". Does that mean I have to wait, or am I doing something wrong? Poveglia (talk) 23:31, 31 July 2014 (UTC) p.s. I love the bio-duck and the planetary hum articles.
Well your user name is listed in Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/CheckPage, and it should be usable immediately. So likely something has gone wrong. Make sure that you are really logging on with that id and not an alternate. Do you have any strange unicode characters in your user name, or all letters? Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:01, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
I have installed AWB 5.5.3.0 on Windows 7 64bit SP1. My username does not contain any special characters. I tried capitalizing the first letter, but that did not work. I am sure the password is correct, because if I enter a different (incorrect) password it tells me that the password is wrong. Under Options I unchecked "Apply changes automatically", but that also did not work. Poveglia (talk) 00:17, 1 August 2014 (UTC)