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why did you delete my edit to the sufism page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 22:58, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Because it replaced reliable sources with a link to a site that has been spammed on Wikipedia before; in other words it was citation spam. If links to this site continue to be added to Wikipedia, I will add it to the spam blacklist. Graham87 01:22, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for your welcome![edit]

Trophy.png Thanks for your welcome!
I am very pleased to have received your welcome and actually it does NOT matter whether it is belated. I don't have other words to say but I am very moved by your words anyway. Christopher2625649908 (talk) 15:36, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

How to Win Friends[edit]

Thanks for your note about How to Win Friends and Influence People, I did actually intend to remove the caption but I should have noted as much in the edit summary. Infobox image captions that simply repeat the name of the article (which is already in the name parameter) or, as in this case, are generic (with no indication of date, edition etc.) are unnecessary. The reader of an article about a book knows that the image with the title written on it is the cover of the book. It's more useful/helpful to designate "US first edition" or "1975 paperback edition" if that information is available. It's the same thing for a biographical article, there is no value in captioning an infobox image simply "Elvis Presley", the caption should include a date and/or other context. This really applies to most types of articles. Thanks again! — TAnthonyTalk 14:46, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

wikitransfer from German to English wp[edit]


could your transfer this German article: to this page:

would be super grateful for that.

kind regards, Earlyspatz (talk) 13:48, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

wikitransfer from japanese to english[edit]

hi again,

could you transfer this page:ピュ〜ぴる to user:aduki_bean/sandbox

thank you, --Earlyspatz (talk) 13:00, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

Mark Stockwell[edit]

Graham, do you have time to check the Mark Stockwell article for Australian spelling and idiom? I'm prepping the article for a Good Article review, and it is supposed to use Australian English for an Australian subject. I'd be grateful for any assistance you have time to provide. Cheers. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 20:07, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

@Dirtlawyer1: I've gone and copyedited it, and Australianised it a bit where I can. I may not be the best person to evaluate the spelling, however, as I can't tell the difference easily with my screen reader. I'm not sure whether it's worth mentioning his Australian Sports Medal, seeing as he apparently only received it for being an Olympic medallist. Graham87 02:06, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
Thanks, Graham -- that's exactly what I was hoping you would fix: my obvious omissions of Australian/Commonwealth spellings. Anything that sounds "American," please correct it. I added the ASM; as I put the finishing touches on the article while I'm waiting my turn in the Good Article review queue, I'm sure I will find some other random honours and/or hall of fame inductions to round out the "life after" paragraph where I inserted it. Thank you for your kind assistance, sir. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 02:26, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

Content for Strongyloidiasis ?[edit]

I see you have removed content from here: Strongyloides stercoralis with the justification that it should be about the worm, not the disease. That's OK but have you moved the content to here (or at least checked if it's already here or not): ? I think that would be important. EvM-Susana (talk) 09:53, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

@EvM-Susana: A little bit ... the neglected disease bit is definitely at the Strongyloidiasis article, at any rate. The text also needed significant work, and I don't know anything about the subject – I just have the article on my watchlist in case of vandalism. If you think some of the non-instructional text is salvageable for the strongyloides stercoralis article, feel free to re-use it there. Graham87 11:25, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
OK, thanks then I will take another look at the removed content and see what can be salvaged. EvM-Susana (talk) 12:31, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

Holocaust denial[edit]

Hi, click on the wrong key? Regards Denisarona (talk) 14:18, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

@Denisarona: Pretty much ... or in this case, I forgot to hit control-V to paste the text back into the edit window. Graham87 14:28, 10 March 2015 (UTC)


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wikitransfer from english to german wp[edit]


haven't figured out a better than to bother you. could you transfer to ? I really admire her work and would like her to have an own page. Is there any way I could import/export pages myself?

thank you --Earlyspatz (talk) 20:12, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

Top Gear 2002[edit]

With the moves, redirects and deletes I now can't find this page. Where is the current version? SPACKlick (talk) 12:41, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

Accessibility concern[edit]

I've been working on a hack for the Signpost that'll allow something I call "historical linking" in archival issues, and I was wondering what you thought about its accessibility, since it basically consists of hidden <span> content dropped in the middle of otherwise cohesive sentences. Here's the link: User:Resident Mario/SandBox. Thanks, ResMar 23:39, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

Suggested imports[edit]

Hello Graham, here are some pages which you might want to import! These pages were created as translations from other language Wikipedias.

I might be able to dig up some more. SD0001 (talk) 14:00, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

@SD0001: Thanks for the note, but I only seek out edits to import from the Nostalgia Wikipedia and occasionally Meta. I don't do translation imports without a request from the person involved in the article, because a lot of people don't like them; they can be quite time-consuming and fiddly. Graham87 14:10, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

List of Bach cantatas[edit]

Could you perhaps perform the requested history merge of List of Bach cantatas? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:59, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

@Gerda Arendt: Unfortunately, I don't do history merges of articles that don't involve cut-and-paste moves *unless* (a) I'm trying to save deleted edits and (b) there are *absolutely no* overlapping edits in the two histories. Neither of these conditions are the case here. I also like to keep article history associated with talk page history ... we'd have to break this in some way if the histories were merged. Furthermore, I don't like falsifying page histories if I can help it ... how would a machine reading the merged histories know that the two cantata lists used to be completely separate articles? Why hide the fact that there were two lists of Bach cantatas on Wikipedia between January and April 2012? Graham87 13:21, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
Also pingingCapmo, who made the request. Graham87 13:26, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
Thank you, Graham, - would some explanation like you gave above help on the article talk? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:31, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
I've added it there. Graham87 15:22, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
Thank you. Cantata day today, with a newly uploaded image, the one also shown on the list, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:29, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

Question for you[edit]

Graham, you use a screen reader to read and edit Wikipedia, correct? Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 06:30, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

@Dirtlawyer1: Yes, that is correct. What did you want to know about it? Graham87 06:53, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

Graham, I need your assistance to review several test cases, using your screen reader. A question has arisen regarding the readability/parsing of the section headers of a particular infobox template, specifically the first section headers of the following examples:

  1. Carlos Alvarez (American football);
  2. Jay Berwanger; and
  3. Bobby Grayson.

If you could, please type out how the first section header of each of the examples above reads with the benefit of your screen reader. Thank you, in advance, for your help. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 11:07, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

@Dirtlawyer1: Assuming you're talking about this discussion, screen readers don't process colour when interpreting text so all the headers are read the same way with the two links to the team name and the number clearly shown. Graham87 13:28, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
Graham, the issue at hand is not about color. There is a separate issue regarding the visual recognition of the links as distinguished from the surrounding text and background colors; however, that's not what I need you to look at. A question has been raised regarding the ability of screen readers to parse the text in the infobox section headers, given the way the templates are structured. I want to understand how your screen reader parses the first section headers of each example, to see if the screen reader "reads" the section header text in (a) an intelligible manner, and (b) in the same manner that it displays. That's why I need to know how your screen reader reads -- verbatim -- the text of the first section headers of each of the three examples. Can you help? Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 14:11, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
For all the examples, it reads them out like "link Florida Gators link no. 45". Graham87 14:16, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
So, when a link is present in the text, your screen reader tells you that it's there, correct? If there were no links present, then the screen reader would simply read your example section header as "Florida Gators No. 45"? Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 15:33, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
Exactly. Graham87 15:39, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
Thank you, sir. That was what I expected, but short of running it through a screen reader myself, I could not know with any certainty. Out of curiosity, what screen-reader software do you use? Is it widely used commercial software?
Having provided a factual answer to my key question, would you care to opine on whether the structure of these section headers presents any real issues under WP:ACCESS? Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 17:09, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
I use JAWS, which is commercial software. I don't know whether those section headers cause accessibility issues. Graham87 04:23, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

((outdent}} Thanks, Graham, for your help and sharing your insights in these matters. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 11:19, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

Talk back[edit]

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I read a news article this morning that was later retracted, and now you've accused me of vandalism. There was no need to be such an asshole in your message. Perhaps next time ask questions before threatening someone. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 17:42, 1 April 2015 (UTC)


Your views would be much welcome at Wikipedia talk:Cut-and-paste-move repair holding pen#Requested move as well as at Wikipedia:Requested templates#.7B.7BR_with_history.7D.7D. Thanks, SD0001 (talk) 10:58, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

Colombian exchange[edit]

Hello Thank you for helping to maintain the colombian exchange article. I have removed the quotes from the first article. They had been removed previously and you put them back claiming the initial passage was quoted verbatim. I downloaded the source file and cross checked it. It is close but also very different. definitely not verbatim. there may be some other way to quote that allowing for all the changes but I think it is different enough. let me know if you disagree.

Here is the quote from the journal article: "The Columbian Exchange refers to the exchange of diseases, ideas, food crops, and populations between the New World and the Old World following the voyage to the Americas by Christopher Columbus in 1492."

Here is the Wikipedia article as it stands: "The Columbian Exchange or Grand Exchange refers to the widespread transfer of animals, plants, culture, human populations, communicable diseases, technology and ideas between the American and Afro-Eurasian hemispheres in the 15th and 16th centuries, related to European colonization and trade (including African/American slave trade) after Christopher Columbus' 1492 voyage."

Thanks for you time Have a great day! — Preceding unsigned comment added by GreenFeather (talkcontribs) 22:14, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

Request on fr-wiki[edit]

Hello, you wrote this request on french Wikipedia. I merged history. Thanks for this request. Cordially.

P.-S. Sorry for my bad english. --Gratus (talk) 14:36, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

Gertrude Bell[edit]

Hello, Graham! I see you have edited the article on Gertrude Bell. It's not a big deal, but I was wondering what you thought about this edit [1] to the article. Also, see my discussion with User:Rothorpe at User talk:Rothorpe#Gertrude Bell. I often discuss grammar and wording with Rothorpe, and we often agree on things, but as you can see, not always. I'm not trying to get your support; I'm just looking for another opinion. CorinneSD (talk) 19:29, 11 April 2015 (UTC)


Graham, My edit on Penicillin was not on behalf of Kraft. Seen the information in the published refrence. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DiasBenjaminE (talkcontribs) 12:57, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

copy from user talk:[edit]

Hey, what do you think about the series of music-related encyclopaedic looking articles on testwiki and test2wiki written by users testwiki:Special:Contributions/Lol Pink and test2wiki:Special:Contributions/Pinky Jones. (Examples: Feel Me, Meester Shay) There are simply too many of them! Most of them contain references and don't look like hoaxes or anything, although they have inappropriate images. I think they should be imported into the draftspace here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 13:50, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

I don't want to get involved in this at all. Graham87 14:03, 21 April 2015 (UTC
Hey! U are online 24hrs! I remember posting to u long time back and at that time also u replied in 5 mins! heard that u r a reputed "importer". why not get involved ?
On the other hand, i agree. No need for the history, its rather ttoo clumsy for impoting. Just copypasting those drafts here would do . — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 14:53, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
When did you talk to me before, and what were we discussing? The reasons I don't want to get involved are that (a) I'm not sure of your intentions and why you are so interested in these pages and (b) I have no interest in modern music. Graham87 14:59, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
sometime back in 2006 or 2007, maybe 2008 . Not seeing it in the archives. No need doubt my intentions ; even i dont give a drat for music, but i love enWP, simply becaus its the biggest. thouh i cant do any real editing becaus my english is ttoo bad. I am regular on frWP and hiWP . here on enWP, i live like this: making badly wrded edit requests and other silly things. and i wont use my username here for obvious reasons. IPs i use have often warned and blocked for "trolling" becaus people become suspecting as i have good knowledge of WP in general. (what talk pages are, what are namespaces, etc.) Hope this explaination remove your worries. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 15:22, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

Updating desysop list?[edit]

Hi, Graham87,
I notice that you frequently update Wikipedia:List of resysopped users and wondered if you had any interest in updating Wikipedia:Desysoppings by month since you seem to find your way to the Bureaucrats' Noticeboard more than most editors do. Scott use to maintain this listing but he is not active any longer. I was reading on Wikipedia talk:RFA how some editors were interested in admin stats so it would be nice to have a list like this up-to-date, like User:WereSpielChequers/RFA by month. Liz Read! Talk! 16:58, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

@Liz: I'll check it out later today. Graham87 03:59, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
@Liz: Sorry for the delay; I've finally gotten a chance to work on this. I've just updated the page. Graham87 09:53, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for taking this on, Graham87! It's nice to have up-to-date data. Liz Read! Talk! 10:23, 25 April 2015 (UTC)


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Seems to be a possible case of Lost History, your expertise would be much appreciated! :) ☺ · Salvidrim! ·  20:04, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

Reversion of external links additions[edit]

Hi Graham,

Thanks for outlining your reversions. I completely agree regarding the problems with linking to the disclaimer page of the AUSTLANG site, rather than to the more specific information on the site that is relevant to the article in question. And also your suggestion that I use the infobox template for providing this link. It already is in use in some articles (see Kalkatungu language as an example) so I could easily take this approach across all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander language articles, so they are consistent. As you can see from this example, it is also possible to create a link directly to a language record in AUSTLANG.

I did also want to sound out my reasoning for linking to the Aboriginal Australia map in articles, to see what you think.

The Aboriginal Australia map that AIATSIS produces is based on years of research into Australian Aboriginal language groups and is a visualisation of the areas in which these languages were (and in some cases still are) spoken. The functionality provided in the link I was using allows the user to magnify in on a particular area and see the region/s particular languages were spoken, which visually expands on the mapping provided in the wikipedia article itself. The value of the map is also in the reliability of the source.

My assessment of its value is based on the fact that while AIATSIS is not necessarily an "Official Link" in this context, AIATSIS is a peak body in the field of research into Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander studies, has an extensive Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander languages collection that is registered in the UNESCO Memory of the World register and is the government organisation charged with not only researching Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures but educating the public. The map is also the map used across a number of websites and publications (including Australian school textbooks) as a reliable source of information.

It can't be reproduced in the article due to copyright restrictions, but I think provides an important context for the information presented in language articles. I am limiting this to language articles, as it is probably too much of a stretch to argue for linking to it outside of that subject area.

My suggestion would be that I limit any addition of a link to the map to articles specifically about language groups ONLY and not anything related to language conventions, or Aboriginal words etc as I previously had been doing. I'm also not sure if using the infobox template would work in this context, as the ability to provide a few words of context in an external link entry might help.

I would definitely appreciate thoughts/ feedback.

Cheers, LizLou (talk) 01:32, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

Request for undoing a histmerge[edit]

HERE is something which you might possibly be interested in. (talk) 19:30, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

You have a new message at the above-linked AN thread. (talk) 18:53, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

account creator status[edit]


I and another user will organize an editing event next weekend. As we might have to register a lot of new accounts, I will need an: account creator status. Can you give me an account creator status?

Thank you so much! EarlyspatzTalk — Preceding undated comment added 09:16, 3 May 2015 (UTC)


Hi. LizLou is starting to add that overly broad external link back to the articles you've removed it from. — kwami (talk) 01:07, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

I've replied at her talk page. Graham87 01:42, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

Hi Graham, sorry I think there was a disconnect between what I was talking about and what you were talking about. When talking about Aboriginal languages, the term often used is "language group" as language is a method of defining a group of people in a certain area, speaking a certain language. This is what I was talking about when I suggested only putting the link on articles relating to language groups that are represented on the map. I've put my argument to Kwami as to why I think there are instances where it is relevant, so if there's consensus I'll continue in those cases.

LizLou (talk) 01:49, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

Use the talk namespace[edit]

Please use the talk namespace, not the main namespace, as the temporary holding cell while doing history merges. Your creations of mainsapce "subpages" such as Samsung/Temp, Samsung/Temp2,Command and control/Temp, Tom Sawyer (disambiguation)/Temp and Snatcher/Temp etc are inappropriate, as the talk namespace exists for a reason. Those pages can be reached via Special:Random during the time they stay live. Thanks. (talk) 16:13, 5 May 2015 (UTC)