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OER inquiry[edit]

Hi Green Giant, I'm sending you this message because you're one of about 300 users who have recently edited an article in the umbrella category of open educational resources (OER) (or open education). In evaluating several projects we've been working on (e.g. the WIKISOO course and WikiProject Open), my colleague Pete Forsyth and I have wondered who chooses to edit OER-related articles and why. Regardless of whether you've taken the WIKISOO course yourself - and/or never even heard the term OER before - we'd be extremely grateful for your participation in this brief, anonymous survey before 27 April. No personal data is being collected. If you have any ideas or questions, please get in touch. My talk page awaits. Thanks for your support! - Sara FB (talk) 20:41, 23 April 2014 (UTC)


Can you find diffs for Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/LanguageXpert? Dougweller (talk) 15:13, 24 April 2014 (UTC)


Hello!, I'd just like to thank you for the message you've left in my talk :-). --Nastoshka (talk) 20:07, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

No problem![edit]

It was pretty obviously an accident. =) Adam Cuerden (talk) 03:29, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

Please Remove Copyright Tags on Holy Shrine Images[edit]

Hello Green Giant,
You have recently added tags to a lot of images I have uploaded to Wikipedia claiming they could be copyright violations. This is not so as these images have been taken by the administrative bodies of the Holy Shrines in Iraq, they are a public organization and not for profit. All these images are public domain and free for everyone inside and outside Iraq to use. I have provided sufficient proof for this and there is no reason to flag them. I am well aware of Wikipedia's media policies and non of these images breach any copyrights. Please remove the tags, if need be I can supply more info if you are still unsure.
Hooperag (talk) 22:25, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for your prompt response. As far as I could see you did include the general website names but not specifically which page you got the images from. After searching I could not see anything that suggested these images were free, on the contrary they all had copyright notices. The proof that you have to provide is a weblink to which page you got them from (so just saying "AlKafeel Global Network" isn't enough). More importantly the source page has to have a clear message stating which images are free for use. If all of them are free, then the website has to make that absolutely clear. We cannot rely on just the uploader saying they are free. Alternatively the owners of the relevant websites could send an email to "" and use the format set out at c:Commons:OTRS#Declaration_of_consent_for_all_enquiries. Usually this takes some time, maybe even weeks because the OTRS people are backlogged.
Don't take it personally, because you are not alone in this as many users have had this problem at some point and it is a steep learning curve but it is essential. In the meantime, just take greater care when uploading new images. Make sure there is a Creative Commons licence on the webpage where you get the image from. If in doubt, don't upload it. Feel free to ask someone for advice; on Commons the best place is the c:Commons:Help desk. Green Giant supports NonFreeWiki (talk) 23:14, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

In this case these images are public domain, but even in the case they weren't there would not be a problem because Iraq and the US have no copyright elations so thins that have a copyright in Iraq do not have one in the US. Of course in this case these images are free, and I will show you proof of this. Also regarding the admin application, I do not care about becoming an admin. Hooperag (talk) 00:43, 3 May 2014 (UTC)

I understand your argument here but Commons policy is to only host files that are:
  • explicitly freely licensed and
  • in the public domain in the United States and in the source country of the work.
Unfortunately for those images, Iraqi copyright law means they are copyright images for either 25 or 50 years after the death of the copyright holder. We need that written permission from an email address at that website or they could put a free licence tag such as CC-BY-SA 3.0 next to the webpage where the photos are located. It simply is not enough for you to say that the images are free. I was happy to note that some of your uploads are your own work, and most of the others at least you added roughly where you got them from even if it wasn't as precise as needed. Green Giant supports NonFreeWiki (talk) 10:44, 3 May 2014 (UTC)

I have sent an email to the website asking for permission (I hope to get a response soon) and also take note that all these images have been originally published on the website I provided. If you find them anywhere else be sure they have taken it from the websites links that I have provided on the description page. The website link I have provided are the official websites of the shrines. Also I have been to these shrines and will tell you that people are explicitly not allowed to take electronics or cameras into the shrine. So any picture of the shrines from within either have to be taken from the Administration or once in a while journalists receive permission to take photos. Hooperag (talk) 15:13, 3 May 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for doing that. I look forward to seeing these images being kept, because they are quite good quality. Green Giant supports NonFreeWiki (talk) 15:44, 3 May 2014 (UTC)

WikiCup 2014 April newsletter[edit]

Round 3 of the 2014 WikiCup has just begun; 32 competitors remain. Pool G's Oh, better far to live and die / Under the brave black flag I fly... Adam Cuerden (submissions) was Round 2's highest scorer, with a large number of featured picture credits. In March/April, he restored star charts from Urania's Mirror, lithographs of various warships (such as SMS Gefion) and assorted other historical media. Second overall was Pool E's Smithsonian Institution Godot13 (submissions), whose featured list Silver certificate (United States) contains dozens of scans of banknotes recently promoted to featured picture status. Third was Pool G's United States ChrisGualtieri (submissions) who has produced a large number of good articles, many, including Falkner Island, on Connecticut-related topics. Other successful participants included Rhodesia Cliftonian (submissions), who saw three articles (including the top-importance Ian Smith) through featured article candidacies, and Washington, D.C. Caponer (submissions), who saw three lists (including the beautifully-illustrated list of plantations in West Virginia) through featured list candidacies. High-importance good articles promoted this round include narwhal from Canada Reid,iain james (submissions), tiger from Wales Cwmhiraeth (submissions) and The Lion King from Minas Gerais Igordebraga (submissions). We also saw our first featured topic points of the competition, awarded to Nepal Czar (submissions) and Indiana Red Phoenix (submissions) for their work on the Sega Genesis topic. No points have been claimed so far for good topics or featured portals.

192 was our lowest qualifying score, again showing that this WikiCup is the most competitive ever. In previous years, 123 (2013), 65 (2012), 41 (2011) or 100 (2010) secured a place in Round 3. Pool H was the strongest performer, with all but one of its members advancing, while only the two highest scorers in Pools G and F advanced. At the end of June, 16 users will advance into the semi-finals. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to help keep down the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talkemail), The ed17 (talkemail) and Miyagawa (talkemail) 17:56, 4 May 2014 (UTC)

Embassy Of India, Kuwait[edit]

Hello, The History section which has been deleted by you from the page " Embassy Of India, Kuwait" stating it as the act of copyright violation from [1]). I want to correct that its not referred from the above mentioned website and instead the article is truly based from the official website i.e and i have mentioned it in the reference section. And as per my knowledge referencing article from public domain is not a copyright violation and so as the image which has been deleted stating the same.

Yashpal Singh Sengar 21:03, 7 May 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yash44444 (talkcontribs)

Hello Yashpal and thank you for your message, and especially thank you for not just reverting. You are correct that you noted that website as a reference but that does not mean you can copy it almost word for word. It doesn't really matter if you wrote the words on that website, we cannot copy without explicit permission and even then we prefer it to be written in your own words. Cheers. Green Giant supports NonFreeWiki (talk) 22:35, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

Hello, I'm not getting the whole point of rephrasing the context when the meaning of it will still be the same and neither do i get the point of copyright when its taken from public domain and as per Wikipedia policy its allowed. I'm aware that as per Wikipedia Policy poor sourced context will be deleted so can u tell me how one can contribute and help Wikipedia knowledge base.??

Thank you

Yashpal Singh Sengar 19:37, 8 May 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yash44444 (talkcontribs)

  • Hello Yashpal. Basically we have to assume that everything on the internet is copyright unless there is a clear notice stating that it is free. The website you linked to above sags "All rights reserved" at the bottom of the page so it definitely isn't public domain. Please note that public domain is a confusing term and it refers to something being owned by society in general rather than a specific person. Just because a website can be viewed by the public does not mean it is in the public domain. It is owned by the person who set it up or wrote it.
The best way to contribute is to write about the embassy rather than for the embassy. So rather than repeating the history that their website gives, you should look for mentions in reliable other places such as major newspapers (including offline and online), books written by credible people, government reports etc. If you want an example, look at the article about Lihou, which I have helped to become a Good Article. It has about 40 separate references each of which has a "fact" about the island but the Wikipedia article writes about those "facts" without using the same words. I hope that helps. Green Giant supports NonFreeWiki (talk) 20:53, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

Warning templates[edit]

Information icon Hello. Regarding the recent revert you made to Nonprofit organisation: you may already know about them, but you might find Wikipedia:Template messages/User talk namespace useful. After a revert, these can be placed on the user's talk page to let them know you considered their edit inappropriate, and also direct new users towards the sandbox. They can also be used to give a stern warning to a vandal when they've been previously warned. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SPACKlick (talkcontribs) 13:04, 16 May 2014‎

@SPACKlick: Hello to you too! Thank you for the information but I already know this (please feel free to check my contributions. I assume you are referring to this revert, which was the IP's first edit. As experienced editors we should avoid biting newbies, so sometimes you have to balance warnings with welcomes, which is why I added the {{Welcome-anon-delete}} template to their talkpage. I hope that clarifies things. :) Green Giant (talk) 13:33, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
@Green Giant: Thank you for that, I wasn't aware of that template and will seek to use it in future. I was tagging a couple of talk pages regarding that IP user because they had made several minor disruptive edits but not received warning for them and should have spotted that when you reverted it was their first. Will check more thoroughly in future. SPACKlick (talk) 13:39, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

The article on the characters of the Simpsons Patty_and_Selma may have false information[edit]

it says in the article Julie Kavner makes Patty's voice more masculine and a lower register, while Selma's voice is a little sweeter? I'm not sure who this is possible because they both sound the same...... Venustar84 (talk) 16:23, 27 June 2014 (UTC)


Identity confirmation for bureaucrat from Italian Wikipedia. This edit and this edit were made by me. Green Giant (talk) 19:45, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

WikiCup 2014 June newsletter[edit]

After an extremely close race, Round 3 is over. 244 points secured a place in Round 4, which is comparable to previous years- 321 was required in 2013, while 243 points were needed in 2012. Pool C's Smithsonian Institution Godot13 (submissions) was the round's highest scorer, mostly due to a 32 featured pictures, including both scans and photographs. Also from Pool C, Scotland Casliber (submissions) finished second overall, claiming three featured articles, including the high-importance Grus (constellation). Third place was Pool B's Colorado Sturmvogel_66 (submissions), whose contributions included featured articles Russian battleship Poltava (1894) and Russian battleship Peresvet. Pool C saw the highest number of participants advance, with six out of eight making it to the next round.

The round saw this year's first featured portal, with Republic of Rose Island Sven Manguard (submissions) taking Portal:Literature to featured status. The round also saw the first good topic points, thanks to Florida 12george1 (submissions) and the 2013 Atlantic hurricane season. This means that all content types have been claimed this year. Other contributions of note this round include a featured topic on Maya Angelou's autobiographies from Idaho Figureskatingfan (submissions), a good article on the noted Czech footballer Tomáš Rosický from Bartošovice v Orlických horách Cloudz679 (submissions) and a now-featured video game screenshot, freely released due to the efforts of Republic of Rose Island Sven Manguard (submissions).

The judges would like to remind participants to update submission pages promptly. This means that content can be checked, and allows those following the competition (including those participating) to keep track of scores effectively. This round has seen discussion about various aspects of the WikiCup's rules and procedures. Those interested in the competition can be assured that formal discussions about how next year's competition will work will be opened shortly, and all are welcome to voice their views then. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to help keep down the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk · contribs) The ed17 (talk · contribs) and Miyagawa (talk · contribs) 18:48, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Non-free rationale for File:Jinnah oath ceremony.jpg[edit]

Thanks for uploading or contributing to File:Jinnah oath ceremony.jpg. I notice the file page specifies that the file is being used under non-free content criteria, but there is not a suitable explanation or rationale as to why each specific use in Wikipedia is acceptable. Please go to the file description page, and edit it to include a non-free rationale.

If you have uploaded other non-free media, consider checking that you have specified the non-free rationale on those pages too. You can find a list of 'file' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "File" from the dropdown box. Note that any non-free media lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been tagged, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If the file is already gone, you can still make a request for undeletion and ask for a chance to fix the problem. If you have any questions, please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. Stefan2 (talk) 23:07, 11 July 2014 (UTC)