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Hello Groink, and welcome to Wikipedia. Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

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Thanks![edit]

The image of the Apple CAT-II is much appreciated! Maury 12:05, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

But... "And, modem-only companies are not networking companies". I'm not sure this is entirely true. While at a full "geek level" definition it may be defendable, I think given any broader definition modems are indeed a form of networking. Maury 21:23, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
This is based on the current list of networking companies in that category. You don't see other modem-only companies like Hayes Microsystems such. Groink 03:42, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
Oh I know, but I think that's a problem. Unless there is some other cat for modem companies? Maury 14:20, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
Here's one thought: Novation was actually a telecommunications equipment company. Hayes Microsystems, Kentronix, HyperEdge, and many other companies are also considered telecomm equipment companies. Telecomm and networking, from an engineering perspective, are different. For example, a router is a networking product. The CSU/DSU that connects the router to the telco is a telecomm product. That's basically the distinction I have in mind. With that, you could possibly throw Novation into Category:Telecommunications equipment vendors. Groink 00:13, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
Excellent suggestion! Maury 12:38, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Taiga Drama[edit]

Thanks for the edits! I am still trying to import the list over, and it is proving to be a bit hard (with personal life and all). Thanks! Arbiteroftruth 09:43, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

YA[edit]

Hey, saw you were putting the article up for deletion again. You have to finish the process by adding the third step to the log page so it shows up. And did you place it in the O (I think that's it) category for corporations? on camera 07:14, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Nevermind, I added it to the log page. on camera 07:36, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
Thanks! My first time doing this. Groink 07:45, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Why I removed the YA Entertainment synopses[edit]

I'm being pro-active by writing the following explanation before a kim-chee drama fanatic starts flaming me for my edits. In summary, I removed all the synopses that were linked to YA Entertainment's web site. I did this per guidelines set by the official policy Wikipedia:Copyrights.

In case you don't have the time to read the Wikipedia Copyright article, here's a summary: You cannot just plagiarize an external web site and at the same time claim you received permission to use the information. It doesn't work like that in real-life. Your word is no good on Wikipedia - no one's going to believe you. If we were to allow you to post copyrighted material just because you said the owner said you could use it, we would have to make a huge effort to verify that claim, by e-mailing the owner of the material, browse through the external web site looking for licensing information... It's just a HUGE headache on the part of the other editors. The reason it is vital for Wikipedia to be clean of copyrighted material is because Wikipedia itself allows people, called downstreamers, to use its material on their own web sites. If DramaWiki, for example, copied the synopsis for Jumong from Wikipedia, DramaWiki would be indirectly violating copyright law because the synopsis was originally owned by YA Entertainment. Wikipedia does not want that sort of thing to happen.

Exactly how would a contributor properly use copyrighted material from an external web page for Wikipedia use? First, the material posted on Wikipedia must include the EXACT URL of the external web site from where the material came from. Then, on that external web site page, there must be a clause somewhere in the page that says something along the line of "WikipediaUser has permission to use the material on this web page for use on Wikipedia AND its downstream users."

A more formal way of obtaining permission and proving it would be to follow the guidelines explained in this Wikipedia document. It explains how to write the permission e-mail and how to forward the information to the Wikimedia Communications committee. Hope this information helps!

Kurów[edit]

Could you please write a stub http://haw.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kur%C3%B3w - just a few sentences based on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kur%C3%B3w ? Only 3-5 sentences enough. Please.

PS. Article about Kurów is already on 171 languages. If you do that, please put interwiki link into English version. If your village/town/city hasn't on PL wiki, I can do article about it. (I'm first author of requests) Pietras1988 TALK 20:09, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Pogs[edit]

  • Pogs (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
  • I was the one that reverted your edit. I explained my revert on the article's talk page. The bot that you stopped didn't revert your edit. Please read the article talk page. Sancho 08:12, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Yoshitsune (drama) deleted[edit]

I have looked at the license for DramaWiki and found that it is "attribution-share-alike" [1], which is not enough for copying under the GFDL. Note that it doesn't prevent other types of copying, so if you don't want content showing up on other websites, you might want to rethink the policy. --Alvestrand 06:32, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Removed my previous reply. I totally forgot I was even on Wikipedia, thinking I was on another wiki. Groink 07:25, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Scouting in Hawaii[edit]

Can you please help render "Be Prepared", the Scout Motto, into Hawaiian? Mahalo! Chris 04:35, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

James Squire[edit]

Hey Groink, can I ask the reasoning behind changing all the dates to hyperlinks? I do not see how the linking page gives further relevance to the article. --Macr237 04:50, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

It is to comply with WP:DATE in that Wikipedia does not allow ordinal dating. Therefore, dating should utilize autoformatting of dates, such as [[September 3]] [[2007]] so that 1) it conforms to Wikipedia style, and 2) it allows for users' date and time preference to set the date formatting they want, rather than have the article dictate the formatting for the reader. Groink 05:58, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
Hi Groink. I'm afraid Macr237 is correct. You've been a bit overenthusiastic and have peppered the James Squire with a good number of links - the majority of which are considered, under current guidelines, as trivial. The guideline you refer to, WP:DATE#Dates, does state: "Wikipedia has articles on days of the year, years, decades, centuries and millennia. Link to one of these pages only if it is likely to deepen readers' understanding of a topic." Added to which the autoformating to which you refer (even when used moderately) is the subject of a debate, and may be discontinued:

Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style_(dates_and_numbers)#another_inflexibility_in_the_autoformatting_system. These guidelines are also useful to look at: Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(links)#Overlinking_and_underlinking:_what.27s_the_best_ratio.3F and WP:OVERLINK. A modest amount of helpful date linking is helpful - however, the large amount you have used is seen as off-putting and counter-productive. Regards SilkTork *** SilkyTalk 07:37, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

The intent of the linking has nothing to do with linking. Rather, it is unfortunate that MediaWiki software uses linking as a means for the autolinking to work. The unfortunate outcome of overlinking is a byproduct of the system, and not because I like linking dates. Besides, I also removed linking from years where it didn't have a month/day next to it. Personally, I would've used templates instead, but for now Wikipedia hasn't implemented that. As for the talk link, it is just talk. Until they use the comments in the discussion and convert them to an actual Wikipedia policy... Groink 07:53, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
So what do you say that we agree that the formatting of dates is now correct throughout, but we ditch those useless links which have no purpose, meaning or use in the article? -- Macr237 09:18, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
I'm fine with that. :) Groink 23:48, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks Groink. I will amend -- Macr237 00:20, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

67.68.53.237[edit]

I noticed that earlier, you were the admin who blocked 67.68.53.237 from editing. FYI, he's at it again. Groink 00:06, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the note, I blocked the vandal's IP. Dreadstar 03:17, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Hi,did anyone record 67.68.53.237's vandilism?Just wondering.IslaamMaged126 20:31, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

How to become a recent changes patroller[edit]

do you know how to become a recent changes patroller?IslaamMaged126 20:39, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Question[edit]

I've got the article watchlisted and will be keeping an eye on it - but let me know if the warring starts up again. You did the right thing by asking the other editor to discuss on the talk page instead of revert warring. I've also left a note on the other editor's talk page. Dreadstar 16:43, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! This editor is very persistent. Check UEFA Cup records and statistics; he has a long history of reverting with very little to no basis on his edits. You can have a dozen other editors coming up with a consensus, and he STILL will favor his data. You just can't deal with him on a logical level. Something else needs to be done. How do you deal with this type of editor? Groink 00:34, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
You've done the right thing by bringing more attention to the issue. I've watchlisted the UEFA CR&S page as well. I've warned the other editor about edit warring and to instead discuss on the talk page - and to add civil edit summaries when making an edit - so hopefully that behavior will stop. Gaining consensus is a good way to deal with something like this, exactly as ArielGold states here. BTW, you should set up email, we can also communicate that way. Dreadstar 10:46, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Input[edit]

As I noticed you were previously involved with this issue, I thought you might want to take a look at Talk:Boy_band#Top_boyband_list, and weigh in with your thoughts, if you have time, and care to. Cheers! ArielGold 02:52, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

About the iPod touch image....[edit]

Okay, Groink, I wiped AND cleaned my iPod touch before taking the picture, it's been cropped as well.....


AND IF YOU THINK THIS PICTURE IS TOO AMATUREISH, I AM CONSIDEREING THE REVERTING OF IMAGE A VANDALISM, NO QUESTIONS ASKED....

I took this picture to better illustrate the interface of the iPod touch.....

This image is the best I could do....

I AM REVERTING THE IMAGE IMMEDIETLEY, IF YOU THINK YOU'RE GOING TRY REVERTING THE IMAGE BACK, DON'T EVEN TRY, BECUASE I WILL REPORT YOU TO ADMIN FOR VANDALISM....


AND IF YOU ARE SAYING THE REASONS ON THE ON WHY THE IMAGE WAS REVERTED ARE TRUE, THEN TRY TAKING THE PICTURE YOURSELF, ITS' HARDER THAN YOU THINK IT IS.....

Thank you Bentoman 00:20, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Kouhaku song list[edit]

The list of songs for the 58th NHK Kouhaku have been announced just today. You may see the list at http://www3.nhk.or.jp/kouhaku/syutuen/index.html. - 上村七美 (Nanami-chan) | talkback | contribs 12:28, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Thank you very much!!!!! :) Groink (talk) 18:06, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

iTouch[edit]

That edit fixes the table. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.252.149.0 (talk) 00:13, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

iPhone current abilities[edit]

  • Regarding your change to my recent iPhone edits, please visit the discussion I started on iPhone's Talk page.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:IPhone#iPhone_current_capabilities
--Jason C.K. (talk) 18:19, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Brat Pack (movies)[edit]

I noticed you had participated in previous discussions about this article. Please feel free to comment on some of the recent changes. Thanks. Maher-shalal-hashbaz (talk) 16:27, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

List_of_top_100_web_sites_in_the_United_Kingdom[edit]

This list is compiled every quarter based on the previous three months of aggregated historical traffic data from millions of users as well as page views. Please note that the rankings may be controversial but not the distribution stats for each domain. The next list is likely to be updated on 1st July 2008.

I believe lists are better than long narratives in explaining the complex market structures that are still evolving in the online economy. For instance, each domain listed above used to be a specialist in atleast one segment viz advertising, search engine, etc. Google can longer be called as a search engine company as they control almost 70 per cent of the online advertising market now.

This list would be expanded, given time, to include UK-specific revenues, employees, market shares, specialisation, etc... It is a work in progress. The list is now sortable with additional data from Compete.com. So, it is no longer a wholesale reproduction of Alexa ranks only.

No hyperlink possible - Data on visitors from UK is not available online. So, no duplication or plagiarism of work is involved. The list collates data from two sources - compete.com and alexa.com - via permalinks to give the UK snapshot.Anwar (talk) 21:02, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Not original research. It is better referred as data mining. The information about visitors was already wellknown within the industry. But it was not available for public consumption until now (for free). The list is as good as the lists for GDP. Easily maintenable as visitor trend tends to peak or stabilise when the product reaches critical mass with the public. So ranks are unlikely to change dramatically in a short timespan unless somegame-changing event or technology arrives next season.Anwar (talk) 10:27, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

RfC[edit]

Thanks for the heads up on the RfC, but I just wanted to point out that the link in the body of the message went to the wrong one. – ɜɿøɾɪɹℲ ( тɐʟк¢ʘи†ʀ¡βs ) 15:16, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Image:YunaItoGroink.png[edit]

Hi there! I noticed you added a non-free rationale to Image:YunaItoGroink.png. From what I understand, you have taken the picture, and uploaded it with a free license, therefore it is not necessary to add that. Maybe you misunderstood about the non-free rationale purpose? If you did a mistake, I can just delete the page since it is already found at Wikimedia Commons. Cheers! -- ReyBrujo (talk) 04:46, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Ah, okay. I was basically acting on the warning about the photo not having a rationale. If you think it isn't necessary, then please remove it. Thanks! Groink (talk) 05:31, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

iPhone Images[edit]

Hi Groink, I hope I didn't come across to harsh in making the CD objective secondary to the betterment of the image (via fair use vs. the commons). Is there a way to have our cake and eat it too by substituting commons images just before the article gets added to the CD? Then we can revert to something that's more appealing to the masses. Mattnad (talk) 13:22, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Not really sure. I'll look into it. Thanks! Groink (talk) 19:14, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
I saw your deleted comment on fair use. I'm sure on further consideration you realise we're applying fair use doctrine because it allows us more latitude on what we can present in an article. Except for special projects like the CD that will be published outside the US, this fair use approach benefits the greatest population of readers, inside and outside the US. Mattnad (talk) 12:14, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Taiga Drama[edit]

I would like to point out that the Japanese Wikipedia page for Saka no Ue no Kumo now specifically says it is a Taiga drama, even though the main taiga drama page still lists it as a special. I think we need to think about reincorporating the list. I don't see any wrong in incorporating the special into the main list, as long as we make a note on it being a special. What do you think? Arbiteroftruth Plead Your Case 02:44, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Please continue to use this Japanese Wikipedia list as inspiration for the English taiga drama page. The Japanese uses the term 大河ドラマ to mean period or historical drama, as you and I would, for example use Kool-Aid when talking about a fruit drink, or Xerox when wanting to make a copy of a document. The Japanese even calls Korean period dramas 韓国大河ドラマ (Korean taiga drama), for example when FujiTV referenced the drama Jumong. There's also evidence to indicate that NHK uses the 大河ドラマ moniker when referencing drama renzoku that fall outside of the Sunday 8:00pm timeslot, such as Miyamoto Musashi when it aired between 1984-Apr-4 and 1985-Mar-13. The whole point I'm making here is that you are taking the term 大河ドラマ to mean something that is more general, while both the Japanese Wikipedia and I believe that the taiga drama article on Wikipedia is written specifically for the annual 49 or 50-episode renzoku. Groink (talk) 03:30, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Rain (Entertainer) Page[edit]

Hi Groink. I hesitate to contact you here because you were pretty rude to me in your comments on the Rain Talk page and I don't want to set myself up for hurtful comments, but the guidelines for resolving disputes say we should try to contact one another and resolve things directly so I am tying that. I am sorry if I offended you by implying that you had negative intent in your choosing to post the pink picture on the page. I consider that to be a vey unflattering picture and maybe made an incorrect assumption that you intentionally chose it because it was unflattering. Would you please clarify your rationale in the choice of that picture when there are so many better ones available? Also, it's kind of clear from your comment on the talk page there that you don't like Koreans: "Like religion, the Koreans are trying to SELL their people, and make them out to be equals with people who REALLY earned the status of being IMPORTANT in this world. Most of us can see through all of this" The guidelines say we should discuss directly our diffences, but I don't know whether it can make any difference to your opinion if I say anything about this. I admit that I have a particular opinion about Rain and a more positive opinion about Koreans that you don't share. I would like to edit the Rain page and try to be careful to maintain a neutral tone despite my positive opinion and to back up my information with reputable sources. I am a little afraid to even try though, because I think I will be shot down. I am reaching out an olive branch and would appreciate it if you would respond and let me know whether I can expect to be put down by you and whether my edits will be considered according to their merits or whether they will be deleted if they don't conform to your negative opinion of Rain and of Koreans in general. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Isilvalie (talkcontribs) 00:11, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

What a joke. It is not logical to speak to a koreanoholic like you. I stand behind what I wrote earlier. Trying to re-define "important" for your own purpose... What a joke! You probably don't even know who those "important" people I mentioned are. FYI, I didn't put up that photo on Bi's article. You think I'd have a photo of that due touching my hard disk? No way! Groink (talk) 08:10, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free media (File:JPBA RIAL.gif)[edit]

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Go ahead and delete the file. I replaced it with an SVG version. Groink (talk) 06:56, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

ArbCom[edit]

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Thanks, —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dario D. (talkcontribs) 21:46, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Templates for deletion nomination of Template:JPBA[edit]

Nuvola apps important.svgTemplate:JPBA has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 22:12, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Possibly unfree File:Jpba-logo.svg[edit]

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Arbitration request rejected[edit]

Hello, Groink. A recent request for Arbitration which you were listed as a party for, "IPod Touch Criticisms Section", has been rejected by the Arbitration Committee. The reasoning for the arbitrator's refusal to hear the case may be viewed at the archived version at this link. If this is still an issue requiring resolution, you are encouraged to seek out other forms of dispute resolution such as a request for comment or Mediation. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me. For the Committee, Hersfold (t/a/c) 16:31, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

You're wrong.[edit]

Apparently you know nothing about wikipedia.

Scratching my head over that one. Quote a WP policy, and then this. Groink-bowling.svg groink 01:45, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Signature[edit]

Hi, Groink. I noted that you currently use a signature that includes an image. Please note that, per WP:SIG, images are strictly prohibited from use in signatures . bugzilla:6379 will eventually prevent their use as a feature of the software. Thanks, --auburnpilot talk 02:52, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Beat me to it. Yes, please remove the image. Thanks. - ALLSTRecho wuz here 03:54, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
I thought the image looked very fit and in itself was ok, but truth be told, if this was allowed, most of such images would likely come off as looking ugly (or worse), needlessly put more load on the servers and one way or another, take away from what volunteers here are meant to do with their accounts: Write an ancyclopedia. Thanks for taking it out. Gwen Gale (talk) 15:06, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

iPhone article review[edit]

Eh, maybe, maybe not. The reception section complaint bothered me, as I'd said, but really you have to admit that GA status isn't very realistic with the chaos right now. It's like there's a cycle; a new iPhone model is released, and a flood of new editors swarm the article, throw in original research and unreliable sources and bad formatting and POV, older editors scramble to keep up, and eventually things settle down and the article gets into good shape, until the next model is released. It seems like the article is GA nominated each time a new model is released which sabotages the review. I wouldn't worry about it, and I'd wait until closer to Christmas time when it is stable, then perhaps nominate it again for GA with a different reviewer. Until then just keep cleaning it up. -- Atamachat 23:29, 27 June 2009 (UTC)


ExtUSB[edit]

The picture is not stolen, if you look it up, I put the reference to show where I got it from because the current picture has the wrong pinout. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.51.216.244 (talk) 00:43, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

In the eyes of Wikipedia, it is stolen. You did not apply any license template to the image. You didn't say it is public domain, or that you've obtained permission from the Russian web site to use its imagery. Wikipedia does not allow copying of images from one web site and upload it to Wikipedia. Even if by chance you own the Russian web site and its imagery, you must apply the proper template to the image. Until you do so, we can't use it in any of the articles. Groink (talk) 01:48, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
And voila! thanks for the info, the attributions is now properly done as is indicated in the wiki and on the russian website :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Julienrl (talkcontribs) 12:26, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

VHS[edit]

It appears that another editor was able to help out. -- The Red Pen of Doom 11:30, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Indeed, the anonymous IP has also it seems gone over his 3RR, if anyone would like to report him. Alastairward (talk) 07:13, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

AfD nomination of IPod Nano Touch[edit]

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Noriko Sakai[edit]

  • It's a weird thing. When I first saw this article, there was no space or comma between "14" and Sakai-san's year of birth, so I added it. I was surprised that you undid my edit, and even more surprised that the space and comma are still there, so... what the heck's going on? ^_^; JuJube (talk) 11:40, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
I think it was a techno glitch with the cached page. When I saw the article, it looked something like "February 14, 3927242", which is why I looked into the wiki code. All is good! Groink (talk) 11:47, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
Looking at your user page makes me curious. You say you can communicate in Japanese? I need some help translating some titles of fanfic I wrote into Japanese. The person I'd normally ask is so hideously busy with his own projects that I don't want to bug him. Got some free time? :) JuJube (talk) 11:59, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

Ching's Secret[edit]

Hi, I've temporarily removed the SD template from this article, while I have big problems with the creators actions I spent some time tidying this article. Given that we have articles for Koka noodles, Indomie Mi goreng, Wai-Wai (food) etc. I think it would be wrong to pull the article completely. What do you think? Thedarxide (talk) 09:51, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Well, as long as someone can boost the product or company's notability, and fill it with references on how it achieves notability. Groink (talk) 10:00, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
Also, keep in mind that Wikipedia should not be used to list a whole catalog of products by a single company. Unless the parent article can achieve notability, WP:INHERIT will apply, and all of those other articles you named may face deletion. Groink (talk) 10:06, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
How does one define notability for a food stuff? Take Super Noodles, massively popular in the UK but the article has no references supporting this fact. Certainly not claiming this is correct but I would have a problem with mass deletion. Thedarxide (talk) 10:10, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
Notability can be achieved in many ways. Distribution statistics is one way. You may know that it is massively popular in the UK, but exactly how did you achieve this idea? Remember now that original research is not allowed. If you can't find any sources about its popularity, then we must question whether the popularity is even a fact. Also, the product being inserted in popular culture is another way to prove notability. I'll throw out one good article - Cup Noodles achieved its notability because of its international distribution, and the product being known as one the contributors towards starting the instant food trend. BTW, when you start comparing other articles to prove a point, Wikipedia guidelines basically say that all the examples do not prove anything other than they too might be violating similar guidelines and policies. Groink (talk) 10:34, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

UniquePhones[edit]

It previously survived an AfD last year and there are quite a few news stories about the company.[2] WP:BEFORE nominating it for deletion again, consider if it can be improved or merged somewhere. Fences&Windows 22:59, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Replaceable fair use Image:P-league-competitors.jpg[edit]

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RE: Noriko Sakai[edit]

You're assuming that Asia is not English speaking, which I feel the need to correct you on. For example in the country where I reside, I watched most of her shows years ago with the original audio with English subtitles on public broadcast TV, and listened to her songs being dedicated on an English radio without understanding what she was saying (I liked the tunes). "English" Wikipedia does not belong to the "West". That is so wrong on so many counts. Zhanzhao (talk) 07:53, 13 November 2009 (UTC)


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Thank You[edit]

I appreciate the congrats on my 300 game. My 8th overall, but first in about 4 years. Always a thrill. Looks like you have a few yourself.Howenstein115 (talk) 22:34, 19 January 2010 (UTC)


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USACE Organization Edits[edit]

Hey Groink - You added references to CEEIS and DTOS to the USACE site (still redlinked, BTW). When I first built this section of the article, I was using USACE references (although sometimes hard to document). Are these two new items actual organizations or are they entities within some USACE organization or perhaps even just a combo hard/software system (e.g., CEFMS, RMS, CETAL, etc.)? USACE does seem to like its various IS systems. It is kind of hard to keep up with this kind of thing since each reorganization seems to be done mainly with the intent to get some colonel his or her star. Admittedly, the issue of organization or entity is hard to define as there are some that would say that each and every squad of each and every military engineer unit and each and every project office of each and every district is entitled to be called an organization. Thoughts? Don'tKnowItAtAll (talk) 18:42, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

DTOS has been around since at least the 1990s. It operates under the Corp's Emergency Operations Center (EOC), and is usually among the first within the Corp to arrive at a disaster site. DTOS is really just a portable Internet Service Provider - providing Internet connectivity, VOIP, satellite phones, and HF/VHF radios. They've worked in places within CONUS such as 9-11, Hurricane Katrina, and in locations within PACOM such as Yago and American Samoa. Although it runs under EOC, DTOS is recognized by the Corp as a separate entity when covered by the Corp media.
CEEIS used to maintain the entire Corp's IT by itself. But it wanted to emulate what the Navy/Marines had in NMCI. CEEIS developed ACE-IT, and gave Lockheed Martin the contract to operate it. Other contractors like Northrop Gruman also work for ACE-IT, as well as many sub-contractors like APEX Systems who work during a six-month probation period. CEEIS chooses everything for the Corp's IT infrastructure - such as make/model of PCs, servers, printers, etc. It also designs the Active Directory infrastructure, and decides where to place the various processing centers. CEEIS is currently designing the Corp's server consolidation effort. ACE-IT then takes what CEEIS designs and maintains them. ACE-IT's performance is measured by CEEIS, and then decides whether to extend LM's contract, or go with another contracting company. Interesting enough, there is some re-org going on between CEEIS and ACE-IT. For example, CEEIS eliminated the RIO/SRIO positions who once worked under CEEIS and ran the various divisions/districts, and is instead converting them to chiefs that operate within ACE-IT. The good thing here is that the chief is more pro-ACE-IT, and strives to make the contract a success.
ACE-IT is really a work-in-progress, IMO. I used to work for NMCI, and currently work for ACE-IT. NMCI was better structured - as the Navy/Marines gave virtually everything IT to it. CEEIS remains the decision maker, and ACE-IT is just a "break/fix" entity. But, it looks like the re-org is trying to give ACE-IT more decision making power, which is a good thing. Groink (talk) 21:27, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Titles[edit]

I am sorry but is it a problem to want to help Groink? And the reason I brought it up is because it makes for an easier search but also corrects Wikipedida's title inconsistency. EunSoo (talk) 06:51, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

I don't know why but your name seems familiar. EunSoo (talk) 07:53, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Advice for EunSoo[edit]

Advice given, though I don't think there's much to say that hasn't been said in the previous discussions. - Draeco (talk) 15:15, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

June 2010[edit]

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Dude, YOU attacked me first about the summary BS. You made a comment on what I said earlier, and that's all good. But then you just had to find it in yourself to crank it up one notch by throwing in my 30-percent comment rate, which wasn't even on-topic with the edit warring. The edit warring is all about editing philosophies, and I made the comparison between you and I/Anna Banana. But, you just HAD to dig up something totally irrelevant to the argument just to piss me off. That, dude, is not cool. My sarcasm for your previous sarcasm is therefore justified. We're even! The end. Groink (talk) 08:49, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
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Hello. I fully agree. You should take this up at NFCC's talk page and consider a Wikipedia:Request for comments, Cheers, walk victor falk talk 15:32, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

"spammer"?[edit]

Hello. Could you elaborate for me why you would think that my comment at Talk:web hosting service constitutes spam? I do not really mean to be condescending, but did you even read it? That said, my concern regarding the pertinent article has already been taken care of, so no damage done.

Not every "mere IP" is a spammer, you know… —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.70.81.136 (talk) 09:10, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

The spammer in question was 72.129.74.71. If you made any edits after 72.129.74.71, I apologize. The spammer edited so many articles, I merely rolled the edits back to the last edit before the anon. Groink (talk) 09:36, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

Expand Japanese[edit]

Hi, Groink. I noticed that you'd created a number of talk pages having to do with Japanese bowling with the template Expand Japanese and topic=vg. That topic points to video games. Rather, it should be topic=sport. I've already taken care of a number of these instances, but applying the right topic in the future would be appreciated. Thanks! --Cheesemeister3k (talk) 22:08, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Cool! Thanks for letting me know on that. Groink (talk) 09:20, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Effect of iphone on games market[edit]

Surely you don't dispute that the iphone has had a remarkable effect on the games market, and what was a market dominated by xbox, playstation and wii, is now wide open because of the development of game apps? MelanieB2 (talk) 11:03, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

The problem with your analysis is that your entire premise is based on just one game. Your analysis is basically, "I know that the iPhone is a gaming machine. Let me find something that can prove it." This is totally wrong, and Wikipedia covers this type of research in its guidelines. You cannot make a hypothesis, and then find data to prove your point. Rather, Wikipedia is based on having the fact already proven through sources. Groink (talk) 11:47, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

Translation?[edit]

Hi Groink, I found your name on the list of Wikipedians with a userbox that said they know Hawaiian. I'm working on Alexis Bachelot right now, and in one part of the article I list a couple books that he wrote in Hawaiian. I tried to add what I thought were translations from the source I used, but I'm not sure if they were the translations/were correct. Would you be able to tell me what "O ke Ao Ana Kristiano" or "He Olelo Hoonaau" mean in Hawaiian? Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 04:53, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

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Re: Apple Bandai Pippin[edit]

Probably one of this articles has mistakes. Here: http://www.macgeek.org/museum/pippin/information.html clearly states as "6 MB combined System & Video Memory, advanced architecture" plus "64 kbyte SRAM Store/Restore Backup". Which is true then ? Greets, Sir Lothar (talk) 11:03, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

You're right about the 6MB. I was correcting the 128KB NVRAM. Didn't see the 6MB edit. Groink (talk) 11:05, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
OK, thanks for clearing this out. Sir Lothar (talk) 11:09, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
I think the 128KB is the correct number. 64KB seems really small - especially since it was the only place to store data on a typical Pippin unit. Plus, the 128KB is in the developer document. The Mac Geek site copied the 64KB value from http://support.apple.com/kb/TA34388?viewlocale=en_US , which was the PR release for the media. The NVRAM might have been increased later on. Groink (talk) 11:17, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
So that's why :). Thanks for explanation, Sir Lothar (talk) 11:36, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

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P-League[edit]

I'd like to thank you for your awesome effort on the P-League page. I was 50/50 on putting the "errors" table in, maybe I should have done the records instead (more records than errors!). I have a records table in my sandbox, if you think it's worthy, help yourself. (You're way more knowledgeable with the Wiki "regulations" ["standards"?]-lack of better term...)

Also, please let me know if I missed anything restoring the article after my accidental catastrophic edit (I couldn't "undo", I had to reverse it all "by hand", as it were). I am pretty sure I got everything back the way it was. --SkipperRipper (talk) 23:32, 15 February 2013 (UTC) (スキッパー)

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Song translation[edit]

Hello! It seems that you are the only recent active user here with more than basic competence in Hawaiian, so I will very appreciate you if you take notice of this topic. Thanks.--Lüboslóv Yęzýkin (talk) 15:52, 12 October 2013 (UTC)

2013 Kohaku[edit]

It will be the 2013 NHK Kohaku Uta Gassen today? Lgcsmasamiya (talk) 04:30, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

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Miss you on the P-League page.[edit]

Hope you are well, I'll finish catching it up after T48. --SkipperRipper (talk) 03:03, 1 March 2014 (UTC)