User talk:Grossmusic

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Template:CORRECTED Citation needed nominated for deletion[edit]

I have nominated {{CORRECTED Citation needed}} for speedy deletion per WP:CSD#T3 as substantial duplication of {{Failed verification}}. If you support the deletion then you can place {{db-g7}} on the template. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:47, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

conflict of interest and block[edit]

Information icon Hello, Grossmusic. We welcome your contributions to Wikipedia, but if you are affiliated with some of the people, places or things you have written about in the article Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Jimmy Gross, you may have a conflict of interest or close connection to the subject.

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Welcome to Wikipedia. Because we have a policy against usernames that give the impression that the account represents a group, organization or website, I have blocked this account; please take a moment to create a new account with a username that represents only yourself as an individual and which complies with our username policy.  You should also read our conflict of interest guideline and be aware that promotional editing is not acceptable regardless of the username you choose.

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You may simply create a new account, but you may prefer to change your username to one that complies with our username policy, so that your past contributions are associated with your new username. If you would prefer to change your username, you may appeal this username block by adding the text {{unblock-un|new username|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}} below this notice. Thank you.

--Orange Mike | Talk 18:45, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

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This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who accepted the request.

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Request reason:

Wow - Wikipedia is not a user-friendly environment for laypeople. I'm a real person - my last name is Gross & I'm a musician. The complexity & completely overwhelming techno stuff has stymied me from moving forward with edits of the Jimmy Gross page. I keep seeing his name as a red link in other Wikipedia articles, so I wanted to fill in the blank since I know all about him (he was my dad). But how? Wikipedia is not easy to navigate. I don't even know how to reply to a "talk page" message. Instructions might as well be in Martianese. Grossmusic (talk) 17:58, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Accept reason:

As per discussion below, and on the condition that Grossmusic avoids potential COI. UltraExactZZ Said ~ Did 12:19, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

Unblocking administrator: Please check for active autoblocks on this user after accepting the unblock request.

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Jimmy Gross concern[edit]

Hi there, I'm HasteurBot. I just wanted to let you know that Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Jimmy Gross, a page you created has not been edited in at least 180 days. The Articles for Creation space is not an indefinite storage location for content that is not appropriate for articlespace. If your submission is not edited soon, it could be nominated for deletion. If you would like to attempt to save it, you will need to improve it. If the deletion has already occured, instructions on how you may be able to retrieve it are available at WP:REFUND/G13. Thank you for your attention. HasteurBot (talk) 12:56, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

From GrossMusic to HasteurBot: I don't know how to respond - why is Wikipedia so hard? See my above info just posted. I find all the techno babble insurmountable.

You've just responded, so that's taken care of. Just type your reply under whatever you're replying to and add a ":" in front to indent - as I did with this comment. Then add four tildes at the end (~~~~), and it'll sign your name and add the date. Thus: UltraExactZZ Said ~ Did 13:30, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
The reason you got the notice above is because you created a draft article that hasn't been edited for 180 days. After a certain amount of time (and I apologize, I don't know how long that is), draft articles that haven't been worked on are deleted. The notice was left by an automated process, and that process doesn't check to see if you're blocked or not - so it asked you to edit something that you can't edit. If you like, I can move the draft over to your userspace (where it would be under your name), or you can just let it be deleted if you really don't plan to work on it. Your call.
As for the block - We get lots and lots of people coming to Wikipedia with no intent other than to promote their business/scam/whatever. If we see a new editor writing an article, and their username matches the article? 9 times out of 10, they're here to spam and we block. The 10th time is inadvertent, as with your case it seems - clearly, if your name is Gross, having it in your username is logical.
That said, have a look at our policy on conflict of interest. Generally, editors are supposed to avoid topic areas where they know or are involved with or employed by the subject. We also have a policy on original research that would preclude your use of personal knowledge to write about your father. I have no doubt that you would write a clear and accurate account, but there is no way to verify that account. In most cases, and most particularly with biographies, we require references from reliable sources independent of the subject. If there are news articles about your father, that might serve as the basis for an article - but one that you probably shouldn't write.
There's a lot of information here - take your time and read through our policies, and ask any questions you have. I'll watchlist your page so that I see your replies. Good luck, UltraExactZZ Said ~ Did 13:38, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
OK, I think I get it. Thank you for the response & info.
As for the "conflict of interest" that was another thing that stopped me from continuing as I recall. I find it an odd policy that family members can't contribute bios, but if that's the case then I don't know what to do. His name does show in other articles & it's a shame there is no entry for him. I was putting together a fact-based non-biased article.
Meanwhile, I think I'm still officially blocked somehow. Not sure. I do occasionally make small edits in other articles where I find grammatical &/or factual mistakes. I'm an amateur historian & professional editor by trade.Grossmusic (talk) 21:03, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
If the article you were working on has proper sources, we can use those sources and come up with something that would work. It's not so much us saying that you can't write about your father because you're not going to be neutral, but rather that generally relatives of the subject don't write in neutral fashion, so let's avoid the whole problem by asking them not to do so at all.
Per WP:AGF, I'm going to go ahead and unblock you - on the condition that (for now!) you don't edit any articles about your father. Let me see what sources you've got so far, and I'll try to put together something that would work as an article. Perhaps we can figure something out. UltraExactZZ Said ~ Did 12:15, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
Just wanted to endorse Ultra's assumption of good faith; but also to clarify that "articles about your father" includes articles about bands he was in, etc. --Orange Mike | Talk 15:05, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
Thank you & understood.Grossmusic (talk) 16:39, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

Your article submission Jimmy Gross[edit]

Hello Grossmusic. It has been over six months since you last edited your article submission, entitled Jimmy Gross.

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. HasteurBot (talk) 16:03, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

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