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November 2010[edit]

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Foxconn edit[edit]

Thanks for adding something to the Foxconn page. You copied and pasted from this article. Please do add things, but please don't copy and paste your additions. I appreciate the fact that you cited the source, at least.

Everything on Wikipedia can be copied and pasted to another website. It's okay to do that, but not ok to do the reverse. It's because everything on Wikipedia has a Creative Commons copyright (this means it's okay to re-use or modify) and most other websites on the Internet do not.

So, you can't copy and paste something to Wikipedia because you're probably not allowed to by copyright law.

I have edited your contribution. Fleetham (talk) 18:01, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

Response[edit]

Yeah, I don't really know how much you need to change something for it to be considered "not copied and pasted". I would recommend not just reworking the prose you found but taking the facts you found and connecting them. Cited sources are best thought of as containing facts to use, not prose to change.

I would not recommend copying and pasting and then copy editing. If you want to add something, make sure it is true by finding something you can cite that says it. If you just add things you know are true, they can be challenged and removed if there isn't a citation to support them.

And you don't need to add citations, but it is helpful. Everyone is allowed to edit in any way they want, but people will remove stuff and say "sry, WP:NPOV" or Wikipedia:Please do not bite the newcomers or WP:BEANS and that shows you why they did it.

Sometimes it is okay to copy and paste, but use quotation marks ("...") when doing so. For some reason people think it's okay to quote copyrighted material, but only if it's short. Not an entire page. Some articles that have quotations in their leads include Viktor Bout, Tata Nano, etc. These quotes are not more than a paragraph, and the quote does not comprise the entire section. It's just one paragraph of a multi-paragraph section.

Sometimes you know something to be true, but the citation only supports some of it. So, you can "get around" this by using {{citation needed}}, which when you type it in makes this:[citation needed] This also helps you avoid WP:SYN, and shows a possible way to use more than one citation in a single sentence. If you want to make a two-citation sentence, just replace {{citation needed}} with the second citation. Don't make a WP:SYN error when doing this.

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"The last act of the play revolves around the character Cricky Thomas,[citation needed] and he dances and sings to the tune of seven guitars."[1] This is also the best part of the play.[1]

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  1. ^ a b Cricky, the everlasting Thomas Citations Galore.

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Response 2[edit]

I don't really understand your response to mine. All the rules are selectively applied, but that's not why they exist.

Basically the rules allow you to complain to an admin. who can do something you can't like make someone stop editing a page. Or "lock" a page so there is less vandalism. There are pages that you post your complaint on to get attention. I don't were they are but I was easily able to find them when I needed to. Then an admin. can say, "no, the WP:living persons means you can't say that" but also enforce it. Fleetham (talk) 04:37, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

Rape abuse wiki is the place for that[edit]

  • They undid your revision. [1] You can add things like that to http://abuse.wikia.com/wiki/Abuse_Wiki if you want to. It seems like a notable case, so many victims involved. The person doesn't have their name revealed yet though, so making an article for them would be hard. Just call them the Indonesian Toy Salesman if you wanted an article about them, adding in information as it becomes available. Dream Focus 22:07, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Smartphone sales figures[edit]

I think the Worldwide figures are more interesting and there is a good graph already (which makes the same point) so I've reverted your edit as it only gives US figures. -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 23:21, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Four emerging markets[edit]

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References[edit]

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Speedy deletion nomination of Indonesian Seven Summits Expedition Mahitala Unpar[edit]

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Thank you for your attention. It is not about a club, however the title is like that. The title is official until now. But as a big expedition there are many persons involved including from the Television and certainly other climbers. Some of them only accompany for two or three climbing. The aim is to reach seven summits by a team not only by several persons of the team, so if they cannot reach all the seven summits altogether as a team, the mission is fail, although as a person they still noted. I will make additional information I got and I think is better if their activities is for the country and not for the club only. I'm also agree if the title will be changed. Gsarwa (talk) 18:25, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of ASEAN 2030 FIFA World Cup bid[edit]

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Given that there isn't even an article about the 2026 FIFA World Cup, let alone 2030, it seems a bit daft to have an article about a rumoured 2030 bid.

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Encyclopedic language and sources[edit]

Your edits to systemic lupus erythematosus and Down syndrome fall well short of content policies and guidelines, and both have been removed pending improvements. In general, using newspaper sources on scientific topics introduces a level of inaccuracy as the journalists introduce lay language and concepts to make the content understandable. Your choice of words was such that it hyped the "new" discovery while actually giving very little information about how it worked (e.g. the monoclonal antibody in lupus or the blood test in Down syndrome).

Have a look at some science and health topics that are FA or GA quality. You will see what I mean. JFW | T@lk 10:21, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

Similarly, this edit took the newspaper's rehash of a manufacturer's press release as fact. At the time, there was no independent confirmation that the concerned regulator, Health Canada, had approved the drug, yet your statement was unguarded, saying the drug had in fact been approved. As it turns out, CBC News now has stated that they got an email from the regulator confirming the approval, but it still has not shown up on the HC database or in their news releases. Similar announcements have, on occasion, been used to manipulate financial markets or to pressure regulators to move, so they must be treated with circumspection. Please see also wp:MEDRS. Wikipedia is not Wikinews. In most cases we can wait for confirmation. LeadSongDog come howl! 16:48, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

Nomination of Four emerging markets for deletion[edit]

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Canals in Jakarta[edit]

Hi Gsarwa, welcome to Wikipedia. I removed your addition regarding the "U-shaped (flood control) canal" in the Jakarta article, mainly because there is no reference (book sources, citation, etc.) for your information. It is true that the canals are U shaped, etc. But always add citation into any additions to any article in wikipedia. Too many Indonesian article are created without any citations, making the article very unreliable and ranks low in quality. You can add the information again if you can provide citation. Thanks and happy wiki-ing. --Rochelimit (talk) 22:01, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

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Dear Gsarwa, Please forgive me regarding my last comment about Four emerging markets. I am definitely not an expert in International Management, so I do belief you have good intention and full knowledge in bringing this article into Wikipedia. I don't know but maybe you should place the Four emerging markets article into Emerging markets article as a subsection? My only suggestion is if you wanted to add an article, try to incorporate it into an existing article, or you can also ask more experienced users whether to create a new article or incorporate it into an existing article. --Rochelimit (talk) 18:35, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

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Welcome![edit]

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Welcome to Wikipedia, Gsarwa! I am N2e and have been editing Wikipedia for quite some time. Thank you for your contributions. I just wanted to say hi and welcome you to Wikipedia! If you have any questions check out Wikipedia:Questions, or feel free to leave me a message on my talk page or type {{helpme}} at the bottom of this page. I love to help new users, so don't be afraid to leave a message! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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Citations, and full citations[edit]

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Hi Gsarwa. I'm N2e and would be happy to help you learn how to better source the material you add to Wikipedia. I also work a lot on space-related articles and would like to see the Indonesian space program better covered in the English Wikipedia, so I am happy to help.

I have reverted your most recent addtion to the National Institute of Aeronautics and Space article, as no citation was included. If you have a source, but don't know how to do wiki-citations, I would be most happy to help you learn. Just send me the source you have that backs up the claims, and I will edit the article and add a good citation for you, as an example of how you can do it. Cheers. N2e (talk) 15:02, 28 March 2011 (UTC) N2e (talk) 15:02, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for trying to add a citation on the National Institute of Aeronautics and Space article. Unfortunately, the link seems to be broken and I can't find that source. See if you can take a look and fix the link.
On your recent edit to theNuclear power in Indonesia article, I have added the necessary information to make your bare URL source become a {{full}} citation. It would improve Wikipedia if you took a look at that citation I put in, and then used it as an example of how to make a complete citation. Let me know if you have any questions. I'll be glad to help you out. N2e (talk) 19:33, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for your help. My aim today is the substances, but I will make improvements later.Gsarwa (talk) 03:05, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

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Dengue[edit]

Thanks for your addition to the dengue fever article. At the moment, the "prevention" section only discusses measures that are currently used. It is less suitable for measures that are still experimental. The "research" section already mentions that a number of vaccines are undergoing testing, and this is probably sufficient until they are actually proven to work.

I hope you otherwise find the article helpful. I've been thinking about taking it to WP:FAC for some time. JFW | T@lk 05:49, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

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June 2011[edit]

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Hi. I've only checked a few of your recent additions but of the ones I've seen all have been copied word-for-word from the original source. Examples include [2] and [3]. See Wikipedia:Copyright violations. mgiganteus1 (talk) 14:50, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
Not even copying one or two lines is allowed - this still constitutes a copyright violation. The facts themselves are not copyrighted, but the way the information is conveyed *is* copyrighted. You must rewrite everything in your own words. If you don't feel comfortable doing this you can always leave a note on the talk page, linking to the source in question. mgiganteus1 (talk) 15:41, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
Thank you for your understanding. Happy editing, mgiganteus1 (talk) 03:27, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Scope[edit]

Hi Gsarwa and thank you for your enthusiasm in expanding articles about Indonesia. In the past days I reverted several of your edits for lack of encyclopaedic content. Please be aware that Wikipedia is not a newspaper and not a travel guide. There are however similar projects with these exact scopes such as our sister project Wikinews and the collaborative travel guide Wikitravel which would welcome such contributions. When you come across interesting information, please consider its encyclopaedic relevance prior to adding it here. Thanks. --Elekhh (talk) 08:32, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your consideration. I am aware of your good intentions, and am here to help. My edit summaries do explain the edits I make, and if not clear enough, don't be afraid to ask. Regarding you comments on Google maps coverage of Jakarta, there is also WP:NOTPROMOTION. Again that's something which would be more appreciated on a different website. Another issue: when referencing please provide proper citation if possible indicating author, date, publication, etc. Further info here. Finally, as you are probably multilingual, you might be interested in Wikipedia:Babel. Cheers. --Elekhh (talk) 12:32, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

I encourage you to write for the Wikipedia written in your native language[edit]

Hello. Thank you for your contributions. I would like you to consider writing for the Wikipedia that is written in your own language, rather than here at the English Wikipedia. The reason is that I find many of your edits difficult to understand. --bodnotbod (talk) 09:07, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

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Please note the word you could have used is automobile - or automotive - otomotive is not currently an english word. SatuSuro 00:56, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

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Remove NOTOC when it is in an article - that is there for a good reason.

Jangan merganggu kata kata di atas kalau disana untuk memperbaiki artikel.

Please try some form of english check when making summaries - kurang jelas!! sats 05:03, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

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Mio[edit]

In Indonesian car you mentioned a Mio. What is a Mio? Thanks.  Stepho  talk  06:45, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

Mio is abbreviation of Million and I think it is common in business term. But thank you for your query, I consider to change it, if necessary.Gsarwa (talk) 15:43, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
Thank you for the explanation. It must be a business/finance term - it's not familiar to me from the engineering world. I have modified the article to make it readable to more people.  Stepho  talk  20:47, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
Thank you for your concern and I didn't mind if you improve the article. When the article is first made, I think there are so many lacks, but now the article has growing, but lack of pictures. Some of them are same with the international design at least for the exterior, but the others have minor different.Gsarwa (talk) 01:58, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

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Aperture[edit]

Isn't it odd how Butler on dpreview carelessly drew the curves as if they can cross over, and somehow concluded that 7.6 is a lower f-number than 5.6 sometimes? I took that nonsense out, and copyeditted the rest of the section you added. Dicklyon (talk) 18:27, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

Butler mentions about Canon Crop format DSLR and not Canon Full frame DSLR, he also mentions that is valid from 65mm equivalent onwards when the widest aperture can be achieved is 5.6 (not 3.5). But thank you and I don't mind of your copyeditted, maybe is more easier to be read.Gsarwa (talk) 15:06, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

Sumba[edit]

Have edited. Not sure that you have a good handle on WP:V or english for that matter after your time here - please note that tourist information like that is more appropriate on WikiVoyage... satusuro 08:52, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

Thank you to remind me about WP:V, I only think that there are no sufficient info about Tourism in the article. When Bali initial to lure tourists or maybe explorers, there are no sufficinet informations (in late 19th century), but information is certainly important and the informations available might be not verified well. I will contribute the article with more verifiable information, if any.Gsarwa (talk) 15:17, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

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