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Hello, Gulbenk, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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Fayenatic London 23:23, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

Editing Protocol[edit]

Hello Fayenatic London. I think I've gotten off to a rocky start, since I replied under your talk page, rather than here. Hopefully you will respond back on this page, so I will receive notice of your reply. Gulbenk (talk) 09:02, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

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Do you have a reliable source that supports that information? --- Barek (talkcontribs) - 03:56, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I can add a reference to clean that up.Gulbenk (talk) 04:31, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! --- Barek (talkcontribs) - 04:34, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

Barek, before I add the reference, let me know if it passes muster with you. It comes from an authoritative source (see the bottom of the referenced page for the particulars) but I would rather be sure before adding. Don't care to be deleted a second time...

I'm not familiar with the source; but from an initial glance it appears to meet the threshold of a reliable source - that should work fine. Thanks for locating a ref and improving Wikipedia's content. If you need help formatting the citation, let me know. --- Barek (talkcontribs) - 04:59, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick review, and the offer of help. I think I did it correctly. I'm forcing myself to learn the process. Slow...but, for the most part, rewarding. Gulbenk (talk) 05:22, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

Barek, saw your revisions. Nice work. Thanks. Much better.Gulbenk (talk) 20:42, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

Hi again! I recommend that you install WP:POPUPS, as it makes it very quick and easy to fix such links in a single action. – Fayenatic London 12:03, 13 July 2012 (UTC)


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RE: Tehran Stock Exchange[edit]

Hi, my changes to Tehran Stock Exchange were relatively minor and I will honestly admit I don't even remember making them now. So feel free to look into doing a GAR, but other than agreeing with you, I don't really have any additional perspective to add. Cheers, Epistemophiliac (talk) 22:44, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your prompt response, all input is appreciated. The more I dig into this, the more it looks like the GA was a bit rushed. Gulbenk (talk) 22:54, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

Dating convention[edit]

Hi - I've reverted you as we have guidelines on making changes at WP:ERA. I hope you understand. Any questions, please ask at my talk page. Thanks. Dougweller (talk) 18:23, 27 February 2013 (UTC)


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Lakeside HS AAAA -> AAAAA[edit]

Unfortunately I am not familiar with the school so I cannot be certain when the change from AAAA to AAAAA occurred. I suspect it happened when GHSA moved to having six classifications (from A to AAAAAA), since some of the schools that I am more familiar with went from AAAA to AAAAA at the same time. -- (talk) 01:43, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

Maybe look at the history of the GHSA region navboxes? -- (talk) 01:45, 18 March 2013 (UTC)


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Thanks again and financial risk inversion[edit]

Hi Gulbenk, thanks again for your help on the IPO article. You made that much easier than I thought it was going to be. I absolutely think you should add the SEC regulation because I'm sure it was being trampled and it's really not fair to the balance of the article to leave readers hanging about whether the allegations, if true, reflect kosher behavior on the part of the brokers. If I had any familiarity with them I would do it right now.

Also I want to ask you about [1] which I have noticed the same effect in bond funds, where "low risk" produced the greatest return for the vast majority of time frames I've looked at in US markets. What do you think about this? I want to edit financial risk and maybe stock market etc. on this topic, but I'm not entirely sure what to say about it. Maybe you know somewhere else it's been covered? I'm pretty sure it has to do with larger firms' ability to hedge the hell out of everything and invest their spare cash in broad high-return concerns that they probably have a lot of asymmetric hidden information about. I would love to know your thoughts. EllenCT (talk) 23:51, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

Greeting... and relevance/verifiability[edit]

Greetings Gulbenk. Thank you for your note. The edit did not comply with Wikipedia's policy regarding Wikipedia:Verifiability. Regards, --Technopat (talk) 05:33, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

Phineas Gage[edit]

You thanked me for this edit [2] so (assuming you didn't click actually mean to click the nearby Undo link) thanks for the thanks. I'm wondering, though, how the situation came to your attention -- perhaps you have PG on your watchlist. If you do you may know that -- the recent brief flurry aside -- I work mostly in isolation there. For the moment there's one other editor who engages at all regarding this article, and I'd very much like there to be more (no offense at all to Mirokado, it's just that two is still a lonely number). Would you be willing? EEng (talk) 01:08, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

  • Yes, PG is on my watchlist, by virtue of a previous and rather ham-fisted edit to the "See also" section. I'm quite impressed with your work at Phineas Gage, as well as the organization and style of the article. While I appreciate your request to engage in future editing, I doubt that I could do as good a job as you have done. PG will remain on my watchlist, though. I would be happy to strike down vandals, should you not get to them first. Regards! Gulbenk (talk) 01:31, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

Tintin in the Land of the Soviets[edit]

Thank you for contacting me on this issue, Gulbenk. First, I apologise for having to undo your edits to Tintin in the Land of the Soviets; I do not relish undoing people's work, and understand that it is demoralising to go to the effort of adding something only to have it removed immediately after. However, I felt that there was sufficient reason to remove your edit to what has only recently become a Featured Article. While I am no Holodomor denier and have no intrinsic problem with the Tintin in the Land of the Soviets page linking to Wikipedia's Holodomor page, none of the Tintinological literature that was used to build up the article actually refers to the Holodomor. If Michael Farr or Benoit Peeters, or any other Tintinologist thought the Holodomor was relevant to Tintin in the Land of the Soviets, and stated so in their publications, then of course I would have included it here in this article. But they didn't, so I haven't. In that respect I fear that including references to Holodomor (or Soviet vote-rigging, human rights abuses etc) here would be in violation of Wikipedia policy.

Regarding my initial suspicion that your edit might be NPOV, it was based on a fear that this was simply another edit based on anti-communist or anti-Soviet bias, something that the Tintin in the Land of the Soviets page has faced before. Here at Wikipedia we have a big problem with editors (usually anonymous IPs or recently registered editors) simply going on to pages and pushing a very clear political agenda. So I hope that that clarifies my concern on that issue. Best, Midnightblueowl (talk) 22:32, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

I think it might be a good idea to take this issue over to Talk:Tintin in the Land of the Soviets, where it can be discussed a bit more widely. Does this sound okay for you ? Midnightblueowl (talk) 20:20, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
Have you had a chance to think about this idea yet Gulbenk ? Midnightblueowl (talk) 10:28, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

Hello Midnightblueowl, and thanks for the follow-up. Yes, I would very much like to try making a contribution to that article, along the lines discussed, starting with a discussion at the Talk page. However, more pressing concerns have delayed me. I hope to free up some time in the near future. Again, thanks. Gulbenk (talk) 13:00, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

That's fine, real life stuff takes precedent ! Whenever you have time to discuss the issue over at the talk page, just let me know! Best, Midnightblueowl (talk) 13:45, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia Loves Libraries 2013[edit]

You're invited! Please sign up at Wikipedia:Meetup/Atlanta/Atlanta 7. To get regular alerts regarding Atlanta meetups, please add your name to this page. Ganeshk (talk) 01:59, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

Your DYK nomination of Ira Roe Foster[edit]

Hi, the maximum allowed length of a DYK hook is 200 characters, but the one you supplied is 224. It will have to be edited or replaced with a shorter hook. MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 18:40, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

Done! Gulbenk (talk) 18:55, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Ira Roe Foster[edit]

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Your GA nomination of Geologic map of Georgia[edit]

The article Geologic map of Georgia you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold Symbol wait.svg. The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needed to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass, otherwise it will fail. See Talk:Geologic map of Georgia for things which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Buffbills7701 -- Buffbills7701 (talk) 15:01, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

The Bhopal Disaster - neutral enough?[edit]

Hi, Gulbenk! I suppose it was you who added "The neutrality of this article is disputed. Relevant discussion may be found on the talk page. Please do not remove this message until the dispute is resolved. (December 2012)" to the Bhopal disaster article. Would you be so kind and remove it? I asked you what is wrong in my book "The Bhopal Saga" (the encyclopedia of the Bhopal disaster), and you have still not answered. So how can you know the article is not neutral? Another important editor is UCC/Dow, and they seem to have nothing to say to the facts that I present. Ingrid Eckerman (talk) 23:26, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

Hello Ingrid Eckerman! The reasoning behind the neutrality banner was discussed during the GAR, but I am sorry that I did not respond directly to your question, as I should have. That was an oversight. The one authoritative review of "The Bhopal Saga" (here: praises the work for its description of "long-term health effects documented in the exposed population and [for suggesting] what might be done to improve health care for the victims." But it also highlights unsupported assumptions, selective use of data, and factual errors. The review further notes that you, as the author of the work, manifest "biases against industry and government".
I fully acknowledge the significant amount of effort that you have put into this article. You have made 610 edits to the Bhopal Disaster, which represents 16.88% of all edits made to date. Your book, and other works, are cited as references 72 times in the article. You, more than anyone else, have shaped this article into its present form. That, unfortunately, also imprints the article with the biases noted in the review of your book.
I am encouraged that some examples of bias, and use of weasel words, have been reworked since the GAR. But more work remains. I had hoped that the neutrality banner would not just serve as a cautionary note to readers, but also serve to stimulate other editors to become involved in the article. And some have. There have been about 135 edits since the neutrality banner was added, but the majority (I believe) are yours.
I greatly admire your efforts to chronicle the cause and description of the release, and its terrible aftermath. Your passions and concern for the welfare of the victims is unquestioned. But it is precisely those passions which must be tempered, with objectivity and factual data, if we are to arrive at a reliable and neutral article.
I would be glad to review the article, again, to see what effect those 135 recent edits have had. I would hope that the article is indeed "neutral enough"... or at least moving in that direction. Give me until the end of the month. Gulbenk (talk) 06:06, 18 February 2014 (UTC)


Could you please take a look at Elsa Collin and Brita von Horn. Would appreciate it!--BabbaQ (talk) 23:20, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

  • Hello BabbaQ. I've looked at the articles, what sort of help do you desire? Gulbenk (talk) 02:17, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Elsa Collin[edit]

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Leo Frank[edit]

You reverted me for adding more of Slaton's statement? Why in the world? Why do you call it editorial or arguing with Slaton? Did you check the source? "(In any event, the performance of my duty under the Constitution is a matter of my conscience. The responsibility rests where the power is reposed. Judge Roan, with that awful sense of responsibility, which probably came over him as he thought of that Judge before whom he would shortly appear, calls to me from another world to request that I do that which he should have done. I can endure misconstruction, abuse and condemnation, but I cannot stand the constant companionship of an accusing conscience, which would remind me in every thought that I, as a Governor of Georgia, failed to do what I thought to be right. There is a territory “beyond a REASONABLE DOUBT and absolute certainty”, for which the law provides in allowing life imprisonment instead of execution. This case has been marked by doubt. The trial judge doubted. Two Judges of the Supreme Court of Georgia doubted. Two Judges of the Supreme Court of the United States doubted. One of the three Prison Commissioners doubted." You won't find me adding editorial or unsourced quotes. Dougweller (talk) 20:38, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

  • Nothing personal. I do not question your integrity and experience as an editor. But the issue is not doubt. Slaton puts that to rest in the sentence you quote. The issue is absolute certainty, which can (in most cases during this era) only be achieved with a valid confession or undisputed observation (the supposed observer in this case did not meet those standards). So the addition of this "doubt" sentence is not supportive of Slaton's eventual reasoning. I posted to the Talk page, after my edit, to explain the reasoning, hoping that you would see it. Gulbenk (talk) 21:03, 23 August 2014 (UTC)