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Adam Clayton Powell IV (engineer)[edit]

Hi, sorry to bother you again, but I think guy is notable. His entire family is notable (two have been long-time Harlem politicians), and he frequently appears in NYC area papers and other media. He's notable enough in his own right as an engineer. While clearly a mess, the article can be fixed before it is deleted. The deletion of this without very clear consensus will likely cause bad publicity to Wikimedia. Please give me a few weeks to work on it, and then it can go to WP:AfD if you still feels it must be deleted. Bearian (talk) 15:14, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

I'm surprised to hear an admin tell me someone is notable because their family is, but whatever. If you think you can dig up sources go right ahead. Cheers. Hairhorn (talk) 17:51, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Courttia Newland[edit]

Yes, I guess that's what I should have done! Thanks, Pdfpdf (talk) 18:01, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

IGFBP7 RNA editing[edit]

Hi Hairhorn, can you please justify your claims of Original Research on the above article? I agree there are problems with it but I don't think OR is one of them. There also seems to be an excess of tagging eg. Expert-subject, Technical and Over detailed. This hardly seems to be the way to encourage a potentially useful new editor.--Paul (talk) 09:13, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

This page was a cut and paste move; I may have added more justification the first time around. For starters, all of the sources are primary sources. It's also more of a scientific paper than an encyclopedia entry; the difference is not always clear, especially for new users. Hairhorn (talk) 15:55, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
Move from where? I did notice that a lot of history seemed to missing. For many of the hard science articles it can take a loong time for good secondary sources to appear. I think the secondary sources are more important for the medical articles than the molecular biology ones. That's why we're arguing that these articles should be merged rather deleted. But just because it's using primary sources doesn't make it Original Research does it? I'd still like that claim justified please. --Paul (talk) 16:23, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:No original research. If you want to improve it and untag it, please do. Hairhorn (talk) 16:27, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
Hmmmm, the link between that definition of Original Research and these articles seems tenuous to me. I can see why first-hand accounts of an event would be bad, but a peer-reviewed article? Will wait and see if we can get some dialogue going with Johno4302 before improving.--Paul (talk) 16:40, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Talk:IGFBP7 RNA editing[edit]

Hi Hairhorn,

You added a merge tag on the IGFBP7 RNA editing. I have added a comment on this on Talk:IGFBP7 RNA editing. I would be grateful if you could you read it please ?

Many thanks, Acabashi (talk) 23:52, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: IUCAB[edit]

Hello Hairhorn. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of IUCAB, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: An international organisation is a credible assertion of importance I think. Needs to go to AfD if required. Thank you. GedUK  22:41, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Are you using a script? I didn't nominate this page, I just retagged it. Hairhorn (talk) 02:48, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Gateway Indoor[edit]

I don't know how I got involved with editing this club, but I did. Thanks a lot! ;) Drmies (talk) 02:53, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

You're welcome.... I guess... Hairhorn (talk) 03:14, 23 February 2011 (UTC)


I don't see "too old to speedy" as a reason not to delete anywhere on WP:CSD. Doesn't "speedy" refer to the process rather than immediacy after creation? – ukexpat (talk) 17:57, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Well, strict chronological age is not really a criterion, but, if there is an acceptable previous version to revert to, speedy is not an option. Cheers. Hairhorn (talk) 18:04, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
That I understand, but in this case the previous versions were so spam-riddled that there is nothing worth going back to that could actually survive as an article, so I think my tagging was justified.--ukexpat (talk) 18:53, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
Okay, I've replaced the tag then. Hairhorn (talk) 18:56, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
Face-smile.svg Thank you. – ukexpat (talk) 19:36, 25 February 2011 (UTC)


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Not trying to spam[edit]

Thanks for your response to my article about my not so humble self I guess. I thought that bona fide publications mattered and was not aware that self-published ebooks do not qualify. I am not opposing the deletion of my contribution - just wanted you to know it certainly was not intended as spam. I am an ethical professional with many years of experience and thought this would be OK. I guess I'll have to wait till I'm dead for someone else to write about me.

Thanks Earl W. "Buck" LawrimoreBlawrimore (talk) 22:33, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Joscho Stephan[edit]

Hi Hairhorn Thanks for your comments on the above page. I have been bamboozled by the process and notifications. (First created page issues) I am trying to work with these issue with your colleague Diannaa. The press release does indeed contain a copyright statement though it is based on a pre-existing press release. I will arrange for a unequivocal statement of copyright freedom from the artist's website for this material. Tomcan (talk) 23:35, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

Paloma Picasso's red period‎[edit]

Could you please remove the tag now? The hook might be used for April Fools' Day DYK. If it is merged, it would not be allowed. We could talk about merging after April 1. Thanks.--Mbz1 (talk) 04:17, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

Eh? Hairhorn (talk) 04:18, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
Please, it is nominated, and IMO it is a great April Fools' Day hook.--Mbz1 (talk) 04:26, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
Not a great reason not to merge, but whatever. For now. Hairhorn (talk) 04:28, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
Thanks, 3 weeks will not make a difference.--Mbz1 (talk) 04:32, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

Crews Control[edit]

Why did the article/page for Crews Control get deleted?

I have never used Wiki before and the instructions are not organized or clear in publishing content. I noticed tags {{ }} that I didn't insert inside the post so naturally I deleted the content that wasn't supposed to be there without realizing WHY they were there-- including the internal links to wiki pages of the Fortune 500 companies affiliated with Crews Control. I added the {{#hangon thingy}} to fix it and finally was able to make the article look like how I wanted it to look. I even added the {{#advert thingy}} tag IF that was supposed to be included. Then the page was deleted??? Makes no sense. Who was attacking the page for deletion??? Videoequipmentdiva (talk) 17:49, 12 March 2011 (UTC)videoequipmentdiva

.Beautiful catch[edit]

I Googled that one and somehow didn't find it, so I fell back on good ol' prod. Ah well, I thought it looked like a C & P. Peridon (talk) 20:28, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

Cheers. It took me a second to figure out what you were talking about... Hairhorn (talk) 02:00, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

Shaykh Whosit[edit]

I agree - see User_talk:Scapler#Shaykh_zain_siddiqi. Copyvio didn't fit the bill, though. Peridon (talk) 21:08, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

Merging would not help[edit]

User_talk:crosstemplejay Hi hairhorn this is user:crosstemplejay. Thanks for the observation but one major reason why the two topics should be separate is the article Optometry in the Western Region, sheds light on the low number of eyecare professionals in the region. It has the least number in the country with the lowest number of surgeries done. By merging the article the current sitation of the problem may be lost, thereby not shedding any further light on the millions of people who yearn for eyecare services.Crosstemplejay 16:04, 22 March 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Crosstemplejay (talkcontribs)

Harvey D. Strassman[edit]

Hey. I pointed out on the authors talk page and in the edit summary that it's not a copyright violation (at least of that source) but I still think it was copy/pasted from somewhere else. A place that may own the text before WP published it. I'm going to take a look around but keep me posted in case you find the text anywhere else. The author is the subject's son so if I had to guess, it was part of a eulogy or obituary written by his son that's floating around to different sources. OlYellerTalktome 18:21, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

My bad on this one.... this is clearly a pay-to-publish obit, probably submitted by the same person who wrote the wiki entry. Thanks. Hairhorn (talk) 18:23, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

Jake Mauga[edit]

Actually, you can't re-tag that for speedy deletion. Any editor other than the one who created the article may remove the speedy deletion tag. As soon as that is done, it may not be re-tagged. Instead, it must be taken to AfD, which is what I'm in the process of doing now. Qwyrxian (talk) 12:42, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

Uh, have you looked at the accounts on that page? That's clearly a sock edit. Although I admit I didn't notice at first. Hairhorn (talk) 12:42, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
I suspect that they may be socks, but I think we would need to confirm that at WP:SPI first before moving forward with a speedy deletion. Heck, maybe in the week of an AfD, someone can find sources that establish notability and actually make it a real article. Qwyrxian (talk) 12:49, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
I don't even expect this to last the whole week. Hairhorn (talk) 18:48, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

Question on tag removal[edit]

Hi, Hairhorn. I noticed you tagged then removed the G12 template here with the edit summary that there is a compatible license. I only see the Copyright © 2003-2005 Dr. Klaus Dierks on the site. I must be going blind because I'm unable to spot any compatible licensing -- could you please point it out to me? Thanks. CactusWriter (talk) 19:44, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

Hi, are we both looking here? Because I can't find the copyright notice you mention, I ony see "This work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 Unported License." all in caps at the very bottom of the page. I rather suspect though that this is simply text borrowed from a third page, which probably doesn't have the same license. Hairhorn (talk) 19:47, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
Ah, okay, I see the problem now. No, that is the wrong source. This page is the source for the text. The creator used this source in a few articles. CactusWriter (talk) 19:58, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
Yeah, okay, I found that page for the other entries. I'll retag it. Thanks. Hairhorn (talk) 19:59, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
Ah, you beat me to it. Cheers. Hairhorn (talk) 20:00, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
Yes, I've gone ahead and deleted it. (I was running through the creator's new articles and deleting any they used the same source for.) Thanks for checking though. Cheers. CactusWriter (talk) 20:03, 29 March 2011 (UTC)


Hey why did you edit with the sute Bulgunnia Station I have all legal right to copyright that information I request you to replace what you have changed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by NMiller96 (talkcontribs) 21:42, 31 March 2011 (UTC)


Cheers for the help mate — Preceding unsigned comment added by NMiller96 (talkcontribs) 05:08, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

inre Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Last Days of the Coliseum[edit]

The article had major problems, and you were wise to bring it to AFD for input. I'll grant it has a ways to go, yes... but even though beginning as [1] Last Days of the Coliseum is beginning to look beter. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 03:56, 4 April 2011 (UTC)


on that spider stub. --Doleusmc (talk) 03:31, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Ernie Halter[edit]

Hello! Please read the guidelines of notability for musicians:

Has released two or more albums on a major label or on one of the more important indie labels (i.e., an independent label with a history of more than a few years and a roster of performers, many of whom are notable).

. i.e.: if a musician has released two or more albums under a notable label, they are considered notable. Notable. NOTABLE.. I hope you understand. I suggest you to read ALL the guidelines of Wikipedia before tagging such articles in the future. Kind regards, (talk) 16:26, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

in fact this part of the guideline reads may be notable; this entry needs refs from third party sources, currently it has none. Hairhorn (talk) 16:55, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
It hasn't "none". It has FOUR(!) third-party , and reliable sources. You can find his name everywhere in the web in neutral, third-party sources. I can't believe my eyes, did you see this article somewhere like in a "new user's created pages" page that you are so eager to delete it?!! So what If I am a new user?? Unbelievable. I'm happy you left it though. (talk) 18:02, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
Third party sources are souces independent of the subject, the only possible candidate is Allmusic, which in general is neither reliable nor genuinely third party. since most of their bios are rehashes of press releases. Notability requires significant third party coverage. If he's notable, the coverage will be there, so it shouldn't be an issue. This is the whole point of maintenance tags, to assist editors in improving the entry, blanking the tags doesn't really help anyone. Hairhorn (talk) 18:41, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Invitation to take part in a study[edit]

I am a Wikipedian, who is studying the phenomenon on Wikipedia. I need your help to conduct my research on about understanding "Motivation of Wikipedia contributors." I would like to invite you to Main Study. Please give me your valuable time, which estimates about 20 minutes. I chose you as a English Wikipedia user who made edits recently through the RecentChange page. Refer to the first page in the online survey form for more information on the study and me.cooldenny (talk) 02:21, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

Might want to read the edits that you're reverting more carefully…[edit]

Just a heads up— [2]. --Gmaxwell (talk) 04:03, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I rolled back a vandal edit; that often does not involve reviewing the rest of the entry... Hairhorn (talk) 04:22, 24 April 2011 (UTC)
I think the edit you rolledback was a well-intended but foolishly implemented correction of the crap line immediately above it. Importantly, because your reversion effectively burred the crap edit it could have prolonged the amount of time required to actually put the article back into a good state, which is the real goal. Obviously I don't expect people to review the whole article with every revert, but reading the prior line when a bad edit is pretty clearly responding to the prior line would seem sensible. It's not worth having a higher quantity of revision patrolling if it comes with a loss of review quality that ultimately results in bad edits being hidden from review. --Gmaxwell (talk) 12:46, 24 April 2011 (UTC)
Thanks, I got the point the first time around. Hairhorn (talk) 13:20, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

Altered speedy deletion rationale: Cissi[edit]

Hello Hairhorn. I am just letting you know that I deleted Cissi, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, under a different criterion from the one you provided, which doesn't fit the page in question. Thank you. PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 00:45, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

My bad. Thanks for your help[edit]

Thanks for the correction. It was one of those "hmmm is that right?" type of edits. Appreciate your help. (talk) 02:53, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

No trouble, cheers. Hairhorn (talk) 02:55, 30 April 2011 (UTC)


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Notability Tag[edit]

Dear Hairhorn, To address your notability tag for Otavio Good article, I have placed references into the infobox and more throughout the text. Not all articles mention this person, but state the fact they reference. All infobox articles mention Otavio Good (For Technology Review article, you need to download full-text document to see the name though). Hope this helps. All the best, ~Zina~ (talk) 01:33, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

Edit reversion[edit]

Hi Hairhorn. You reverted my changes at Mark Wright (politician). I realise now I forgot to make the neutrality changes that Bigtimepeace suggested. Sorry - that was a copy & paste error. I think the extra info, and in particular the newspaper article dedicated entirely to him [3] do establish "notability". If I correct the neutrality stuff, will you allow this edit? What do you mean by "Try the article talk page next time"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 17:06, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

Hello Hairhorn?? Could you reply to this? (talk) 08:26, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

I can't actually see the article, I only see a preview. Also, notability normally requires significant third party coverage. Until you make the edit, I can't possibly tell you whether it's neutral or not. You can always propose changes on the talk page of the entry, although the talk page of a redirect is unlikely to get a lot of traffic. Hairhorn (talk) 13:21, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

PROD on List of countries by cultural group[edit]

FYI, I removed the PROD tag from List of countries by cultural group because it has already been proposed for deletion once, and contested. As such, if you wish to pursue deletion, you would need to take the article to AfD. Articles cannot be relisted for proposed deletion. Happy editing!! jsfouche ☽☾Talk 03:52, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

The next step and guidance please?[edit]

You posted a note about notability on the article I was working on. Since I am just starting this whole Wikipedia world, I wanted to confirm something. I will be adding more references withing the next 48 hours. If I feel it is sufficient, then do I post here and ask you to remove the tag? Second question, can this article be deleted with a notability tag? I wanted to know how much time I have to fix it. I have been working on the article for only a few hours and have still not finished what I feel is necessary to conform to the wiki policies. the article is Juan Verde Jaguilera909 (talk) 05:57, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

Tags can be removed by anyone if they no longer apply; all of the maintenance tags that were previously on this entry have been removed, I'm not convinced that they don't still apply. This entry is not up for deletion. See Wikipedia:No_original_research#Primary.2C_secondary_and_tertiary_sources for more. Hairhorn (talk) 18:11, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Comeback Season II listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Comeback Season II. Since you had some involvement with the Comeback Season II redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion (if you have not already done so). 117Avenue (talk) 03:02, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Atheistic mythology[edit]

You just nominated the article for deletion per G5. It's correct that the original author was blocked (by me) for sockpuppetry, but are they socks of a banned user? My rationale for blocking was just that two accounts, created almost simultaneously, respectively created the article and removed speedy tags from it. The current version of the article has little if anything to do with the original, which promoted some weird blog. Favonian (talk) 14:15, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Never mind. Overtaken by recent events. Thanks. Favonian (talk) 14:16, 18 June 2011 (UTC)


Hi, This is regarding Green Development. I had only taken two points from a website you mentioned that i copied from and you deleted the entire section, I even cited the website, did i not reference it correctly? Please let me know so I can avoid making the same mistake in future, Potpourr!^ ^ (talk) 13:43, 11 September 2011 (UTC) Hey Hairhorn! You requested the page Bert Mizusawa for a speedy delete with no other justification but it was previously deleted before. Did you review the script on my talk page USER:Missclark with the original deleter USER:Balloonman regarding this page? It was previously deleted for the conversation that pursued involving WP:COI when the individual was running for a public office (over a year ago). The individual is no longer running for political office and is noteworthy under WP:N WP:MILPEOPLE. Please read the two different articles and compare with the previous articles for deletion. Thank you. Missclark (talk) 18:21, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

I am still waiting for your reasoning. I posted this on the page as well—I am requesting that anyone who deletes this page state SPECIFICALLY why page is not WP:N per WP:MILPEOPLE. NOT JUST DELETING FOR NO REASON WHATSOEVER. Check your respective talk pages for further clarification. Anyone who deletes this page under the sole reasoning that it "was previously deleted" obviously is not abiding by the editing standards since they did not read the new article, to compare it with the deletion discussion (which took place over a year ago), and then come to a determination.Missclark (talk) 22:21, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
Since I am unable to read the previous version, it is up to an administrator to compare the two versions. The primary problem seems to be a lack of notability, in this version and the previous one (conflict of interest was not the only issue at AFD; pages are usually not deleted when COI is the only issue). Which of the criteria at WP:MILPEOPLE do you think he meets? I do not see it. Hairhorn (talk) 10:43, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Aelita Andre (buying an art show makes one notable?!?)[edit]

this struck me as the sort of article for which your judgement would be useful. article aelita andre raises an interesting issue: apparently this kid-artist's promoter-parents bought her a show at known vanity gallery, agora gallery in new york city. then out go the press releases. a tv channel seemingly not knowing that it is a rent-a-wall space put out an article about how incredible it was that a 4-year-old actually got a solo art show in new york city. other world media took up the story from there. everyone passing the story along because the first stories were from nyc and so must be a big deal (but generalist news reporters don't know which galleries are buy-a-show venues). so: if you're notable because media echoed other media talking about your solo nyc art show, but the initial reports were bogus --because really it was just a paid show-- are you REALLY notable? see Cramyourspam (talk) 18:32, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

DESH-VIDESH MAGAZINE — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ams1234 (talkcontribs) 19:24, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

I am using some of the text from becuase we are the owner of this web site. Rather than deleting the whole page, pl edit the text. I see other pages in same category and it uses similar text. I am new to wiki, pl help

Dow Museum of Historic Houses[edit]

….To whom it may concern:

Sorry for any confusion. All of the information on the Dow Museum of Historic Houses is courtesy and at the permission of the Museum of Arts & Sciences in Daytona Beach, Florida.

I wish I could give you the date of our brochures and booklet with the above information, it seems to have been printed by us over 10 years ago and there is no copyright information listed therein. I can assure you these, like the Dow Museum of Historic Houses itself is the property of the Museum of Arts & Sciences, Inc., of Daytona Beach, Florida – of which I am the Director of Communications/Marketing Director and I also edit the website, etc. Sloth1979 (talk) 17:00, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. Hairhorn (talk) 18:55, 6 July 2011 (UTC)


Hi Hairhorn, If you would care to specify the exact POV issues in Conservation of fungi - perhaps they can be rectified. As such there is no explanation in the talk page from your side. AshLin (talk) 14:42, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

The fourth word is "urgent"... there are other terms such as "major concern" that express an opinion that should be attributed to a source, rather than stated as fact. Cheers. Hairhorn (talk) 14:49, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
Got it - needs a rewrite to reflect that it is scientific opinion. Thanks. AshLin (talk) 18:32, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
Would this do? If its okay then request that POV tag may please be removed, else further comments would be helpful. AshLin (talk)

Changing the Meaning[edit]

Hi Hairhorn, I have noticed that you keep cediting the boiler point for the HDMA page but by doing so you are changing the meaning and not accurately reflecting the association. The association deals with healthcare products and services, as well with prescription drugs, so it should really read "the national association representing primary healthcare distributors" to be entirely accurate. Thanks so much for your help!

Why don't you change it to something more clear then? "primary healthcare distributors" is just jargon. Hairhorn (talk) 13:27, 12 July 2011 (UTC)


If you're interested - User_talk:Fastily#TripleA_deletion -FASTILY (TALK) 06:59, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

Altered speedy deletion rationale: Dancube Network[edit]

Hello Hairhorn. I am just letting you know that I deleted Dancube Network, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, under a different criterion from the one you provided, which doesn't fit the page in question. Thank you. GedUK  19:54, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

As before, I only replaced the tag, I was not the nominator. Cheers. Hairhorn (talk) 19:56, 18 August 2011 (UTC)


Hello, Can you tell me why you have deleted some text of Bhinder,Udaipur article after tagged?? Sean (Ask Me?) 20:01, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

I removed text from this entry (before it was tagged for deletion) because it was a copyright violation. See the article history for more info. Hairhorn (talk) 02:40, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Major “Bloody Bill” Cunningham[edit]

Reference Article: Major “Bloody Bill” Cunningham- You tagged.. This article or section contains close paraphrasing of a non-free copyrighted source. While there are areas of duplicated text "militia officers and magistrates" and "the whereabouts of" is it not close enough in total to deserve this tag. Please reconsider. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sapper Ancient (talkcontribs) 11:36, 29 August 2011 (UTC) Sapper Ancient (talk) 10:54, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

India Education copyvios[edit]

Hey, I see that we've been following the same copyvio trail on work coming from Wikipedia:India Education Program/Courses/Fall 2011/Economics of the Social Sector Year 2 Group A. I was just about to start on a complete checking of each student's claimed article, and then it occurred to me that I could save myself some time if I checked to see if you'd already done that, since I know that you've been cleaning up as many of their vios as I have. So, do you happen to have done a complete go-through of the student/article list? If not, I'm going to get started on that... A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 14:25, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

Please go ahead, I have only hunted-and-pecked my way through this and tagged what I've seen. There is also a a related class. Cheers. Hairhorn (talk) 17:19, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
What a mess! I've created a subpage in my userspace to help me keep track of who's done what. If you're up for a bit more punishment, your help would be welcome systematically checking the submissions/logging the results - ideally we'd end up with a list of whose are clean, whose aren't, and what warnings, etc the violators have been given. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 21:30, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
Wow, I'll let you know if I find anything more... you've already picked up on my latest changes (to Social security). Cheers. Hairhorn (talk) 21:33, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

Re: National Dairy Development Board section[edit]

I'm extremely sorry for that mistake. I had edited that section when I did not know about the "Copyright Violation" on Wikipedia. It was long back. Please don't block me. That article isn't even a part of my Assignment. Please view my recent record of editing and spare me from blockage.

Thanks. Basic.atari (talk) 01:55, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

Steven Kunes[edit]

Thank you for your diligence. I have my doubts about some of the filmwriting credits, and share your suspicions about the identity of the IP editor. I wish you well. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 02:36, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

Cheers. Several credits are sourced to dubious looking pages, those could probably be blanked. IMDB blanked his previous bio, but has bizarrely let him recently post a a less than reliable resume. And without wanting to out anyone, the IP geolocates to Pennsylvania, which is also mentioned in this article... Hairhorn (talk) 02:43, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
Gullible citizens of Bucks County, Pennsylvania - Beware! Cullen328 Let's discuss it 04:56, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

Deletion of Addition to an article[edit]

This is User Tank 32. I justed wanted to know why my addition to the Indian History section of the Female Education article got deleted. I would really like to know your suggestions as to what can i do to make it better. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tank32 (talkcontribs) 18:30, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

Responded on your talk page. Hairhorn (talk) 01:52, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

errors corrected[edit]

this is user sarbartho.mukherjee , thanks for pointing me about the close para phrasing in my article Innovations in Indian Banking System . As i am a amature in wikipedia it is very usual on my part to commit mistake. I have made necessary changes in my article. hope it is okay this time. i will need your help for further up gradation of my articles. thanks for pointing my mistake. sarbartho.mukherjee — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 20:22, 14 September 2011 (UTC) i have did the proper editing i hope it now correct. if any further problem persists please do inform me..... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sarbartho.mukherjee (talkcontribs) 17:21, 17 September 2011 (UTC) . okay give me some time of about 1 day , i will re edit it... hope after that there wont be any problems

Kunes redux[edit]

Well done! I just sent an email to the reporter involved, recommending that an in-depth follow-up story might be in order. Cullen328 Let's discuss it

Cheers! I figured this couldn't last forever, not when there are bounty hunters involved. I'm expecting the IP contribs to dry up now.... Hairhorn (talk) 01:53, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

Some waited three decades to see you and your colleagues expose the bio. Historically, this particular con is able to connect with his mark by creating the persona of a successful Hollywood screenwriter, devoted father and concerned contributor to community causes. Your public service gratifies victims and may dissuade potential marks from becoming victims themselves. Thank you. ||Regarding the credits: Writers Guild feeds the Filmography categories of Misc Crew (1 title) and Writer (9 titles). These specific, legitimate credits are verifiable with the union (WGAw). But as you know, the vast majority of user-submitted credits/bio are nearly impossible to verify. About the film sale reported June 10, 1992 (Streisand on p.1): Variety reporter Matt Rothman wrote "...surprised by the size of the transaction and the rookie status of both writer and (production company)..." Yes, Rothman was skeptical. About the plagiarism discoveries: should you wish background, let me know. Arrest, conviction and incarceration records in Los Angeles, Ventura, Santa Barbara and Santa Clara counties probably aren't your province or concern. WilsonBaker (talk) 23:01, 24 September 2011 (UTC)

Hairhorn, I have welcomed WilsonBaker on the new editor's talk page. Best to you. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 18:50, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
Cheers. I actually had him figured as a sock, but only because his sole contributions prior to now were pleas to keep the entry and remove all the legal background. Hairhorn (talk) 20:21, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

Sorry for the copyright Violation on Family planning in India[edit]

Sorry for the Copyright Violation on Family Planning In India. It happened by mistake. Now i know the norms regarding copyright violation through the campus ambassador. It won't happen again. Please don't block me. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sehaj.raina (talkcontribs) 09:45, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

Copyvios and help[edit]

Hey Hairhorn,

I was just about to revert all the edits of this user, Potpourr!^ ^ (talk · contribs) made to the Article, Green development, as a lot of it looks like total copyvio. However, some of it can be saved I think. Since I saw that you already had reverted certain edits...which fell under dubious copyvio, could you have a gander at it again and see if you can save anything or a complete revert is required.

Just to introduce myself, I am a Campus Ambassador assigned to this program, i.e. WP:IEP and an avid Wikipedian. For any assistance or queries, please revert back to my talk page.
Debastein1 (talk)
"Lets make this world a better and more informative place" 11:25, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

PROD on Colin Burnham[edit]

I went to delete the article and found that it had been deleted as a PROD once before. So the current article would be a contested PROD and it will need to go through the full AFD. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 11:03, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

PROD on European Certification and Qualification Association[edit]

I have removed the PROD on this article. If the references are to be believed (WP:AGF), then the organization has had significant academic impact. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 13:37, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

User at IP now back in London[edit]

You were recently keeping an eye on a user at IP You may therefore wish to know that, after his usual summer stay in Dublin, he has returned to London and is now editing at IP Esoglou (talk) 14:30, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Lovers Make Liars[edit]

Hello Hairhorn. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Lovers Make Liars, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Having members who are or were members of a notable band indicates importance/significance. Thank you. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 20:29, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

Would you review page revisions[edit]

Hi Hairhorn, can you let me know if you consider this revised article to have a neutrality problem? Thank you. MatthewJenkins (talk) 16:42, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Would you review page updates[edit]

Hello Hairhorn, I made some updates to the article on and added some references. I also realized that it should be a stub. Can any of the tags be removed? Thank you and best regards Winniez46 (talk) 15:12, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

James E. Wise, Jr.[edit]

Hi, Hairhorn. I've declined the speedy deletion of this article because the subject appears to meet the nominal notability standard. I know that G7 makes no mention of notability and I'm looking for input on that point. I won't be watching your page so if you have any thoughts to share regarding G7 and notability feel free to post at my user talk. Regards Tiderolls 06:02, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

Follow-up. I've left a message on the article creator's user talk explaining my action and letting them know they can request deletion if my action is counter to their wishes. I think the article would survive an AfD, but that's just one opinion. Tiderolls 08:27, 13 January 2012 (UTC)


Hey, you just removed one speedy deletion tag on the Luna the Fashion Kitty page I am creating, but there is one left. Do you think the page has enough references now not to get deleted? I don't create Wikipedia pages all that often so just wondering if I have reached the elusive standard of notability yet. thanks! akritenbrink — Preceding unsigned comment added by Akritenbrink (talkcontribs) 02:13, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

Zeff Fellows[edit]

Could you please let me know what is wrong with the page on "Zeff Fellow"

Myself a Zeff Fellow at Technion do not see any problem but How can you comment on it without being fellow? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nil pat13 (talkcontribs) 09:45, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

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Thanks for pointing out the copyvios in Vulagaman's contribs. I thought they look like copy-and-paste materials but couldn't find the original anywhere. ZZArch talk to me 02:01, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the information on our Ecqa page ... I´ve tried to include as much information about our association as possible with as much evidence on existing documents as well as explaining what the organisation does. So please don´t delete this page... Michael.reiner (talk) 09:46, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Lauren Burrows[edit]

Actually at this point I'd say that she's one of those people who was notable by the standards of the time when I originally created it (when the simple verifiability of her presence on the radio was sufficient in most cases), but I've tried several times in the past few years to source it up to current reliable sourcing standards and not had much luck — so, yeah, realistically I agree that it's got to go. Bearcat (talk) 04:00, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, I didn't have much luck either. Thanks. Hairhorn (talk) 04:01, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

John Kenkel[edit]

This is marginal PRoD. I would have sent it to AfD, but I won't second-guess you. Bearian (talk) 22:12, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

If you say so. This is an essentially unsourced BLP of someone who gives a lot of press quotes for their job (none of the biographical details are sourced, the refs are all articles where he's given blurbs). If you think it's marginal, go ahead and decline it; the last two things of mine you declined went to AFD and were deleted there instead. Hairhorn (talk) 00:44, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

Visualizing Cultures (website)[edit]

I moved the article on the controversy to this title, and started generalizing it. I think that while the controversy is certainly not appropriate for a article in its own right, the website as a whole may well be notable. I'm glad you placed a prod on it, which called it to my attention as I regularly check Prods about to expire. (BTW, "is this still here" is not really an adequate summary when PRODing an article--it's necessary to be explicit that one is proposing it for deletion by PROD.)

Obviously the section on controversy needs to be rewritten & shortened in a major way, and sections on other materials on the site, and courses associated with it need to be written.Perhaps you can do some of this, as I've not previously been familiar with the matter & you seem to be. I think a proper rewriting would deal with it much better than outright deletion, but even if you nominate for AfD it might be fair to try a rewriting first & if you don't wish to do the rewriting, I'll do what I can with it. DGG ( talk ) 16:49, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

Not sure why you would think I knew anything about this other than what I gleaned from a few cursory Google searches (enough to satisfy myself that there were no good third party sources available). I still don't see any notability, for the website or otherwise. I'm in no rush to send this to AFD; if it's still kicking unimproved in the far future, We'll see what happens then. Cheers. Hairhorn (talk) 01:05, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

Unsourced sales pitch?[edit]

The edit you removed on Fido Solutions was not intended to be an "unsourced sales pitch". The truth is, Koodo has set certain prices during its launch in March 2008, and such prices were matched by competitors Fido (still going strong) and Solo (almost discontinued). The same happened in 2011: Koodo started offering Canada-wide plans, and Virgin Mobile Canada (in lieu of Solo) copied such plans. Fido imitated them to a lesser extent.

If you have a way to make this pricing standard sound less like an "unsourced sales pitch", please let me know. That's what i want to do, to keep the articles neutral. Thanks. --True Tech Talk Time (talk) 14:22, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

Fred Sands - Vintage Capital Group[edit]

We have not added any copyright material. Any material that we have provided are copyrighted by us. Please indicate which material you believe is copyrighted by others.

Assistant81073 (talk) 19:24, 10 April 2012 (UTC)


Thanks for completing the PROD. There was in fact a valid, if spammy, article in the history about a real Russian business airline, but it had been taken over by a hoaxer. I have blocked him, restored the last good version, and thanked the IP for reporting it. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 13:14, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Mobile Forces Source[edit]

Thought you might be interested as your redirect was immediately reverted to the article content. Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Mobile_Forces_Source#Mobile_Forces_Source CaptainScreebo Parley! 13:45, 28 April 2012 (UTC)


Hi. That's due to an orthography issue with capital Es and recent changes in how French represents this. Yes there are cases of E not having the accent, in Belgium particularly due to Flemish influence, but generally several sources have to be checked due to the orthography/type issue. See fr.wikipedia. In ictu oculi (talk) 01:17, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Hmm, but in the Grauffel case appears I was mislead by a ghost Facebook entry and 2011 Nimes shooting competition. In this case you're correct, though as I said, the orthography practice with capital E has changed and Eric does have three spellings. In ictu oculi (talk) 01:25, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
Cheers! I'm surrounded by Erics, Ericks, Érics, and various others.... Hairhorn (talk) 01:37, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
Hi again, came across this local newspaper and photo. In ictu oculi (talk) 07:03, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Hi, new participant here![edit]

Hello Hairhorn,

Sorry you had to delete my previous post on network packet broker. The article I pulled if from I actually wrote myself :) But I've rewritten it and resubmitted. I'm happy to edit it further if we need to - I am new at this and just "learning the ropes"

Thanks, Kate Brew — Preceding unsigned comment added by Katebrew (talkcontribs) 18:23, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

Cheers! Hairhorn (talk) 18:24, 14 May 2012 (UTC

AfD for Maryse Selit[edit]

Be careful about accusing someone of having a single-purpose account or a sock puppet. Although I am also pretty fed up with the nonsense on the Maryse Selit AfD page, an admin noticeboard such as WP:SPI is the proper location for such complaints. NJ Wine (talk) 03:02, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

Well, I said nothing about socking, so WP:SPI is out. Please feel free to take the whole thing to an admin noticeboard yourself as a neutral party, I interpret the latest AFD comments as a legal threat. Hairhorn (talk) 03:08, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

Zionist Occupation Government[edit]

I have a hard time believing that the use of the term 'ZOG' or the opposition to its supposed existence is simply reducible to antisemitism. I would imagine there might be an antisemitic strain of people or groups of people that use the term 'ZOG' but the article raises a lot of suspicion to the reader when it bears the claim that it is objectively antisemitic. Perhaps the article could be reworded or expanded to clarify this. Please respond on my talk page. BakuninGoldmanKropotkin (talk) 00:52, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

PROD for Rod Roddenberry[edit]

I have removed the {{prod}} tag from Rod Roddenberry, which you proposed for deletion. I'm leaving this message here to notify you about it. If you still think the article should be deleted, please don't add the {{prod}} template back to the article. Instead, feel free to list it at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. Thanks! ShawnIsHere: Now in colors 22:52, 22 July 2012 (UTC)


You have recently sent me a message about my actions on Kodenshi America, Inc. I have replied in the talk of that article as to why I removed the alert that was on the page. Please review. Thank you. Dstrausser83 (talk) 18:39, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Ottawa Law Review[edit]

I removed your prod, because it has been published for 33 years, thus is possibly notable. Can you send it to WP:AfD? Bearian (talk) 21:57, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Renard queenston[edit]

Hello Hairhorn. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Renard queenston, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: The article is not substantially the same as the deleted version. A new deletion discussion is required. Thank you. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 20:05, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Joe LaPorta[edit]

Hello, I've assisted on modifying/stripping down the "Joe LaPorta" page so it's from a much more neutral POV and has more references/citations. How do the flags get removed from the top of the page since these changes have been made? Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stevesawyerrr (talkcontribs) 12:15, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

The entry actually says almost nothing about Laporta: it's a list of credits. And while some promotional language is gone, it's hard not to see this as little more than an online resume. Hairhorn (talk) 12:52, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

I've added some more information beyond credits while maintaining a neutral POV. Please advise. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stevesawyerrr (talkcontribs) 01:18, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Hello, I've added some more information beyond credits while maintaining a neutral POV. Please advise. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stevesawyerrr (talkcontribs) 11:51, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

Age of Narcissism[edit]

I have despeedied this as a Google search showed a source for the usage as made by the creator. In fact, the term is actually in a Psychology Today article. Dlohcierekim 02:54, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

The term is used (although I doubt it passes WP:NEO), but the entire entry was a sarcastic attack. Note that Age of narcissim from the same user was speedied. Hairhorn (talk) 17:25, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
I am astounded at your approach to a new user-- whom you have accused of vandalism. Then when you don't have your way with an inappropriate speedy deletion template, on an article that was already PRODed, you go out of your way to taunt and harass them? The original creation was by no means what would have been hoped, but your reading of it is purely subjective and shows a lack of understanding that many new editors are not as polished as they may become with patience and encouragement. To return to the vandalism slur, there was no pattern of vandalism in his edits, merely one of unsureness and unfamiliarity with the project. This is a new editor who needs help, not whatever it is you call your approach to new editors. Dlohcierekim 20:59, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
Furthermore, do you presume that a second iteration of a speedily deleted article should be treated as vandalism? That earlier deletion was for insufficient context. How are new editors to learn if we refuse to show them the ropes and brusquely taunt them for there lack of knowledge while labelling vandals? Dlohcierekim 21:06, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
Well, I'm willing to grant I could have been more helpful with this user, that much is true. I have to disagree, though, with your characterizations of both my actions and the entry. There's nothing unusual, for example, in nominating a prod nominated page for speedy deletion; (what is unusual is removing a CSD but then completely changing the content of the entry, that much is telling). I don't see any "taunting" on my part (and this isn't a new account, unless by "new" you mean a very small number of edits, if so, granted). The full log for Age of narcissim reads "neologism", not just "lack of context". And so on. Hairhorn (talk) 22:52, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
YES that much is very Telling. I do my best to rescue an article rather than deleting it. We are here to build an encyclopedia. Deletion should be the last resort. Cheers Dlohcierekim 23:04, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
And yes. Someone w/ a total of 7 edits is very new indeed. Dlohcierekim 23:12, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
"As for articles about subjects that do not hold to our basic tenets, keeping them actually can do more harm than one realizes – it sets a precedent that dictates that literally anything can go here." Hairhorn (talk) 18:30, 27 August 2012 (UTC)


I have made the necessary changes and the article looks more like a standard article now. Can you please suggest what else needs to be done for the article to qualify as a Wikipedia article? Details will help. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shreetamz (talkcontribs) 18:24, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

Hey thanks for the feedback. I have already changed the content after flags has been raised to stop using flowery language and also to remove content that had copyright infringement. I completely understand the second flag requiring a neutral point of view. However, since the content has changed since the article was flagged, can we not reconsider it and not continue to flag it for deletion?

Thank a lot.

The language in the entry is utterly promotional, not at all neutral... it goes well beyond being "flowery" to being spam, which actually qualifies it for speedy deletion. Hairhorn (talk) 18:34, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

Concord Mall (Indiana)[edit]

Malls are usually considered notable if the article has sources, which this one does. The last version deleted over 4 years ago didn't have any sources, nor were any available at the time. Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 02:29, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

brand ambassador[edit]

hi i request u to hold re-editing this page for the next 20 days atleast. this is a sincere request as the editing is being done for a university course assessment. co-operation will be appretiated. thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kavyakushalappa (talkcontribs) 21:49, 20 September 2012 (UTC)


Hairhorn: Thanks for your observation at WP:AN3 that you saw copyright violations being added to some marketing articles. I have semiprotected a few of those. If you notice any others, you can ask me to look at them or report them yourself at WP:RFPP. Two of the IPs involved geolocate to Maharashtra. EdJohnston (talk) 23:59, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Cheers... there are lots of pages, but many have not been persistently edited in this manner. Since there is no project page for the class it's hard (or impossible) to stay on top of all the edits. Hairhorn (talk) 01:06, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

Original Barnstar Hires.png The Original Barnstar
For beating me to adding that additional sock! Electric Catfish2 01:56, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Ha ha, you beat me to the speedy retagging... Hairhorn (talk) 01:57, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Nomination of Customer Development Process for deletion[edit]

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Customer Development Process is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Customer Development Process until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article.

Hi, letting you know that I have nominated for Afd, the article keeps reappearing! WWGB (talk) 02:01, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

American Perfection[edit]

There is no reason why American Perfection should be nominated for deletion. I apologize if this gets Hemmeband17 (talk) blocked, but WWE recognized them as a team and went for ALOT of tag team titles matches at number pay-per-views, and Vickie Guerrero said that she named their stable American Perfection on Twitter, but Wrestling Attitude abandoned the link, but I will find the link that proves that they were indeed American Perfection. 75. 176. 3. 213 (talk) — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 19:43, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

This page isn't up for deletion. Do you read the templates you delete? Hairhorn (talk) 19:44, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
The page is actually nominated for deletion, he just keeps deleting the nomination. Anyway, like I said all I needed was some time, but I finally found a link that says Vickie Guerrero herself said that she named the stable "American Perfection", and also that Tamina might was going to join the stable, but I guess WWE changed their minds about Tamina. Hemmeband17 (talk)
The template you deleted shows only that the page was previously nominated for deletion. It has nothing to do with the current state of the entry, Hairhorn (talk) 20:11, 11 October 2012 (UTC)


Hi there, I would appreciate it if you visit the site created and search the poets name in google as I have mentioned in the talk page. this person is notable and known and your request reffering to speedy deletion may have to change. thanq — Preceding unsigned comment added by DEBORAH1111 (talkcontribs) 13:00, 16 October 2012 (UTC) Hi there, thq for visiting the site created, there are more than 40 websites mentioned in the wiki page created, are there more needed? please advise in my talk page. thank you again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DEBORAH1111 (talkcontribs) 07:42, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

Jessen Noviello[edit]

Just to let you know, I declined your PROD because articles that have previously been through an AfD discussion are not eligible for PROD. Feel free to renominate the article at AfD, though. Ks0stm (TCGE) 23:28, 18 October 2012 (UTC)


Yes, I have salted it for a month and blocked this IP for a week. This is an odd case, a long-term hoaxer who creates plausible-looking (at first glance) pseudo-scientific articles on talk pages. They use a string of different IPs, usually located at Tunkhannock, Pennsylvania, sometimes at other locations near there. Until recently they have tended to be hit-and-run, and they are too many and too varied for a range-block, but they don't seem to have other uses and individual IPs are sometimes active over more than one day, so I am beginning to think that where they are persistent like this one a week's block might help choke them off. The talk-page hoaxes don't do much harm, but they are beginning to alter existing articles to match, which is more serious, so if you see any more it's worth checking the contributions. You might let me know, too: I am compiling a list of the IPs involved, though I don't know that we can do more than play whack-a-mole. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 22:19, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, this is the most thorough response to a salt request I've ever seen..... Hairhorn (talk) 17:29, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

Rainer Crone[edit]

Hello, just letting you know I removed your prod from the above article as it has previously been proposed for deletion. Thank you. Rotten regard Softnow 15:43, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

see the listing of his dozens of books on WorldCat. If you withdraw the AfD, I'll start adding them. DGG ( talk ) 22:52, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
Huh? AFD is usually thought of as an incentive to improvement, not an impediment. Hairhorn (talk) 00:12, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
I first thought of asking you to add them them yourself, or add half of them yourself, but thought you might take it as unfriendly, so I offered to do that part. AfD can result in improvement, but is best saved as a last resort. A request to me as the deprodder to see if I could find some material would have worked as well. that's why we have BEFORE--though not mandated, widely recommended & almost all good editors at deletion processes do it, at least sometimes-- tho we all sometimes make a guess as a short cut and find we're wrong. Perhaps you made a wrong guess, which in this case is understandable based on the history of the article About once a month something like this happens to me, and I apologize & do what I can to at least partially fix it, DGG ( talk ) 05:34, 2 November 2012 (UTC) .
thanks. My apologies for my somewhat excessive snippyness at the AfD . DGG ( talk ) 03:37, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

Please be more careful[edit]

Hello Hairhorn! I noticed that you tagged Anil Kumar (film director) with WP:BLPPROD. There is only one flaw with your tagging, BLP PROD is tagged if there are no sources on any form. The article really do have sources, 3 sources to be exact. Have a nice day and thank you. Mediran talk to me! 11:20, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

Visit or see WP:BLPPROD for more info. Mediran talk to me! 11:21, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
I placed this tag because it reads " All biographies of living people created after March 2010 must have at least one reference to a reliable source", which applied in this case. If you care to read the policy you've linked it reads "the BLP deletion template may be removed only after the biography contains a reliable source that supports at least one statement made about the person." Hairhorn (talk) 11:54, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

Ammar Aziz[edit]

Hi Hairhorn, you recently edited Ammar Aziz and removed the claim of being featured; here's the link to that: That is not merely a gallery but a compilation of articles about thirty people from all over the world. It would be great if you undo your edits. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 12:01, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Your copy-edit requests[edit]

Hi, Hairhorn, just a note to let you know that I've split your copy-edit requests at the GOCE request page for General Mohammad Akram and Khan Mohammad Mujahid; I've copied your text and sig verbatim. I've done this because copy-editors don't usually deal with two articles at once. Please feel free to contact me if you wish. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 03:21, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

[December 2012][edit]

Hi Hairhorn, thanks for the warm welcome. If all of the other folks on Wikipedia are as funny as you, I think I might really enjoy contributing to Wikipedia! Have a great day! Please read up on wp:Harassment . — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nu2wikipdia (talkcontribs) 14:32, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

Even if you weren't a sock, your edits will inevitably be seen that way, so pointing you towards relevant policy hardly qualifies as harassment. But thanks for the non-denial. Hairhorn (talk) 22:43, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

استناد غیر منطقی[edit]

سلام جناب آقای هیرهورن استناد به نظر خواهی ویکی پدیای فارسی اصلاً منطقی نیست. من که گفتم آن ها برخلاف معیارهای ویکی پدیا و مغرضانه مقاله ی نصرت اله خاکیان را حذف کردند و به این هم قانع نشده به سراغ مقاله ی انگلیسی آمده اند تا آن را هم حذف کنند.Kamran1370 (talk) 17:53, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

Invitation to WikiProject Brands[edit]

Fredmeyer edit 1.jpg
Hello, Hairhorn.

You are invited to join WikiProject Brands, a WikiProject and resource dedicated to improving Wikipedia's coverage of brands and brand-related topics.
To join the project, just add your name to the member list. Northamerica1000(talk) 22:50, 20 December 2012 (UTC)


Your suggestion at the SPI on Hektore was a good one, and I have added the report to the existing Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Kamran1370, and told Auric what I have done. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 20:22, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

Deletion of Chris Shearn and question on citation[edit]

Hey, I got your message. I understand that Chris Shearn was deleted. But I have been trying to do my best trying to find references. Anyway, what is a citation? Cheers! Ashbeckjonathan 14:05, 4 January 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ashbeckjonathan (talkcontribs)

"Citation" is just another term for a reference. I can't even see the Chris Shearn entry anymore, so any questions about it are probably better directed towards the deleting admin, Yunshui (talk · contribs). Cheers. Hairhorn (talk) 14:36, 4 January 2013 (UTC)


hi there, Thank you for your suggestion .I have added 5 more reffrences, and as I have mentioned before this person is notable, you may search her name in google in English,Persian and Arabic, you may find many pages , as a matter of fact there are 58 refrences which I have reffered to in the wiki page created, are there more needed? please advise in my talk page. thank you again — Preceding unsigned comment added by DEBORAH1111 (talkcontribs) 15:16, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Giving me advice[edit]

Thanks for your cooperation on giving me advice on Wikipedia like Mark Rogondino and other pages. I was trying to find more references on those articles like Jim Watson and Bryan Dolgin. (Talk) Ashbeckjonathan 21:18, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Speedy Deletions[edit]

The entries which I tagged for speedy deletion have no references, and no indication that they have significance. I made a mistake in tagging Herbert George Welch, but the other ones do not meet the A7 standard. (talk) 03:34, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

Nora Smith[edit]

Templates from this article was removed which I have reverted. I am not sure about the PROD template, if you think the issue is fixed, you can remove it. --Tito Dutta (talk) 14:19, 22 January 2013 (UTC)


Hi there again, I have evaluated some of the references they are ok, but Ill do it again. I have added more references. Thank you again for your kind support and help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DEBORAH1111 (talkcontribs) 08:35, 26 January 2013 (UTC)


please check and comment on the article (talk) 08:50, 26 January 2013 (UTC)


Hi there, thank you for leaving a message in my talk page, will you please help me and explain what should I really do? like what is the problem with the references? they are like 60 references refered to books, journals, articles, newspapers etc, should I remove some of them? and how can I upload a picture in the wiki page? Thank you again.DEBORAH1111 (talk) 16:19, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

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Tim Cates and Jeff Phelps[edit]

Hey, I am trying to do the best I can for Jeff Phelps and Tim Cates. There should be no reason why those pages should be deleted. That's stupid. You need to use common sense and tell me why they were deleted and how to rewrite them without plagarizing. That was idiotic. Use your head! Thank you! Ashbeckjonathan (User talk)

Disregardence on Jeff Phelps and Tim Cates[edit]

I don't care what your opinion is, I will disregard and I will disagree on this. Ashbeckjonathan (User talk)

Dead link[edit]

What is a dead link? User:AshbeckjonathanUser talk:Ashbeckjonathan

It's a link that doesn't work! Hairhorn (talk) 18:05, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

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Kinetic Void[edit]

I have tried to find suitable secondly references. Please tell me what is still needed. BlockBadger42 (talk) 23:01, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

For those who commented at the AfD, a merge discussion has been initiated.[edit]

As someone who participated in the AfD for Ethnic penalty you may be interested in joining the merge discussion which was indicated as a next possible step by the closer: Talk:Discrimination#Merge_Ethnic_Penalty.3F -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 14:38, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Drbkmurali[edit]

You may be interested in the outcome of this. I did not let you know when I filed it to avoid any claim of WP:CANVASSing. LGA talkedits 06:07, 11 March 2013 (UTC)


hi there hairhorn, as for the message dated 27 January 2013, since then I have been evaluating some of the sites concerning your request, I have added more references and I have evaluated the websites and references also, I have explained it in my talk page. Thank you for your good help and support on this. if there is anything more which I should do please leave a message for me in my talk page, Thank you again. DEBORAH1111 (talk) 16:20, 10 April 2013 (UTC)Deborah1111

SOG Knife[edit]

The SOG Knife is a particular style. The knives you mention are not that style but made by a company who made a replica of the original SOG knife. Your content might go better in SOG Specialty Knives, as they are the company that made them. I know, it's confusing to non-knife people.--Mike - Μολὼν λαβέ 22:51, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

Nomination of Stu Klitenic for deletion[edit]

A discussion is taking place as to whether if Stu Klitenic should be deleted or not. The conversation will be held at the Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stu Klitenic until a consensus is held and everyone is welcome to join the conversation. However, do not remove the AfD message on the top of the page. Ashbeckjonathan 03:25, 10 June 2013 (UTC)


Just a heads up, I will retire today and return to Wikipedia whenever I feel like it. Feel free to leave me a message at my talk page. Thank you. Ashbeckjonathan 21:35, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Craig J. N. de Paulo[edit]

Dear Hairhorn, your remarks about this philosopher and one of his academic publishers seems biased and impartial, which violate Wiki policies. As an academic myself, I can assure you that this is a notable person and a respected philosopher. Universitybuff (talk) 20:00, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

I'm curious which comments you mean. If you're referring to "borderline notable" that's demonstrably true, as far as the notability criteria are concerned. Further, I'm not even sure which policies you think I've violated. Hairhorn (talk) 13:29, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Augustinian phenomenology[edit]

Do you smell what I'm smelling? There's more of the same, I think, in that biographical article. Drmies (talk) 21:53, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. We have 582 articles in common? Clearly I have to get out more. Hairhorn (talk) 00:36, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
Mandarax and I hit 1000 years ago. We need to get out more. Drmies (talk) 04:45, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
And I think we've each got too many edits now; I can't get the tool to complete an updated run for us. But whatever the number was, it's now one more, after this edit.

Hairhorn, speaking of articles in common, I noticed the "Paloma Picasso's red period‎" section near the top of this page. It's really old news for you now, but I'm just seeing it for the first time. I think it's absolutely shameful that you were asked to remove a "merge" tag so that that garbage could become a DYK. About a year ago, I mentioned that it was possibly the worst article on Wikipedia, whereupon Drmies performed the merge. I told him that I considered my torpedoing of the DYK nomination and thus keeping that trash off of the Main Page to have been one of my greatest achievements here. MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 08:20, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Mandarax doesn't read a lot of K-pop, you know. Drmies (talk) 13:49, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Pardon my intrusion to your conversation, but it seems that Augustinestudent, Universitybuff, and a few IDs are likely to be all from the same individual, if you notice the repeated pattern of edits on all the articles that are related to Craig J. N. de Paulo, through "View History" tab. It appears that this individual is creating different log-in accounts to sidestep your and others' attempts to edit any articles even remotely relating to this Craig J. N. de Paulo. User:PhillyRez —Preceding undated comment added 16:46, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, I'd noticed that already, this makes it pretty obvious. Hairhorn (talk) 19:27, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

<legal threats and allegations from several users removed>

I'm not sure I get all your comments, but I've started a sock investigation here: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Augustinestudent; feel free to add your comments in the section where it reads "Comments by other users". But first please note that comments like "may be a scam artist" run foul of wp:legal, you may want to read that first. Hairhorn (talk) 14:44, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

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Posting on a retired page.[edit]

This is your only warning. Have you not read my old talk page User talk:Ashbeckjonathan that says DO NOT EDIT THIS PAGE OR YOU WILL GET A WARNING? If you are not allowed to post it, post it my new talk page. If you post it again, you may blocked from editing for 21 hours. Thank you. WisconsinBoyClevelandRocks228844 (talk) 22:40, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

About Sources[edit]

As Dr N H Wadia is Padma Awardee his notability is beyond doubt proved.Much of the information I have gathered is from,which according to me is a secondary source and a link of zee news is also a secodary source,even though i admit there can be lapses in my understanding about wiki sources as i am new,please make sure.Dr.potdar (talk) 18:23, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Marco Tulio Boasso[edit]

Hello Hairhorn. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Marco Tulio Boasso, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: The article is not substantially the same as the deleted version. A new deletion discussion is required. Thank you. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 01:28, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

Please help[edit]

Please look in to the article Asset Homes. I have rewritten it to look it neutral and also introduced links to other related articles. The external links are all credible. They are from New Indian Express, The Hindu Business Line and within the project of Government of Kerala namely Emerging Kerala published by DC Books. Please see if it satisies the notification? Thanks --Level2013 (talk) 06:19, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

Nomination of James Bates (sportscaster) for deletion[edit]

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Please check your sources![edit]

I find the removal of my name from North Atlantic '86 as inappropriate. (rm autobio namechecking, name not mentioned in either source) If you have a look on the startup screen of the game you will notice my name is indeed mentioned (bottom right image). I have also for your attention a letter signed by Mr. Chuck Kroegel who was Director R&D at SSI that I will be glad to provide.

Sincerely, Jean-Luc Morano (talk) 17:20, 20 July 2013 (UTC)

Are you also Lonekzin (talk · contribs)? My edit summary was correct, your name is not mentioned in either source given in the entry. The link you give above is not a reliable source (the standard for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth). Writing about yourself on Wikipedia is also strongly discouraged. See wp:autobio for a starting point. Hairhorn (talk) 20:54, 20 July 2013 (UTC)

Craig J. N. de Paulo[edit]

Do you intend to open a WP:SPI? [4] Wilhelm Meis (☎ Diskuss | ✍ Beiträge) 04:45, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your help in this matter.The SPI case has already taken place. I'm not sure it merits re-opening for a few IP edits, especially when this user isn't currently blocked. Cheers. Hairhorn (talk) 05:09, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
Actually, I see that exact IP address is listed in that SPI case, and it looks like the parent account is blocked. Wilhelm Meis (☎ Diskuss | ✍ Beiträge) 05:15, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
Sockmaster Augustinestudent (talk · contribs) not currently blocked as far as I can tell; block was only for 2 weeks and has since expired. Hairhorn (talk) 05:24, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
The user page is still tagged as blocked, but I see the block log shows it was a two-week block that should have expired a couple weeks ago. I guess I could take down the tag. Wilhelm Meis (☎ Diskuss | ✍ Beiträge) 05:29, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

Joe LaPorta[edit]

There were recently added Grammy winning albums that he was involved in but you then removed everything related to the Grammys (including his nomination) when you disagreed with the recent additions. It has now been revised back to only the official nominations with references. Thanks! Stevesawyerrr (talk) 14:33, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

Hello, you recently added a comment saying the Imagine Dragons nomination is "not in citation given". However, it is the second record listed in this this reference link [5] Please advise, thanksStevesawyerrr (talk) 04:13, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

Busy person[edit]

Hey, I am a busy person. Because you were on a break for that long, this is a free country. I not only contribute to Wikipedia, I also really contribute to City data.

Huh? Hairhorn (talk) 17:01, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Farid Mamundzay[edit]

Hello Hairhorn. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Farid Mamundzay, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: The article is not substantially the same as the deleted version. A new deletion discussion is required. Thank you. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 20:24, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

January 2014[edit]

why don't u add details by using u'r intelligent brain instead of redirecting to another page. The only thing people here can do is undo additions, not add materials. That's why contributions 've dropped to 20%. Fucking Wikipedia by the very people. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ‎Avieshek (talkcontribs)

La Toya Hankins[edit]

While I am not sure she's notable, this article's speedy deletion could be controverial. Please go to WP:AfD. Bearian (talk) 22:29, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Two pretty salient points: I did not nominate this for speedy, and every time you reject one of my PRODs it gets deleted at AFD; perhaps your criteria need fine-tuning? Hairhorn (talk) 17:29, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Blackfoot Gypsies[edit]

Hello Hairhorn. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Blackfoot Gypsies, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Having members who are or were members of a notable band indicates importance/significance. Thank you. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 19:44, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

I did not tag this page, it was tagged by Wysprgr2005 (talk · contribs). Also, if you're referencing wp:band, that's not what it states; it requires "two or more independently notable musicians," only one is mentioned in this entry, and only as a member of a "past lineup." Hairhorn (talk) 00:25, 7 July 2014 (UTC)


I've declined the speedy for George Jackson (conductor). The articles are written in a different way but the real reason I decided to decline it was because of the radio award. I don't really think that it's enough to where he'd pass notability guidelines, but it's big enough to where a second AfD might be a good idea. I'm kind of torn. I honestly don't think he'd pass a second AfD but I don't know how prestigious that award might be. If you want to re-tag it and/or get a second admin decision, I completely understand. I'm tempted to speedy it, but the sources are different enough to where it could be argued that it should've gone through a second AfD. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 13:04, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for giving it a look. Hairhorn (talk) 18:53, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

deletion of my page[edit]

hi, i've got your notice but i'm trying to post new reference, so sorry cause of not good at wiki editing — Preceding unsigned comment added by Antonio.hungnguyen (talkcontribs) 06:04, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: MediterraNaut[edit]

Hello Hairhorn. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of MediterraNaut, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: A7 does not apply to products. Thank you. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 17:34, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

Are you using a script? I didn't nominate this page for speedy. Hairhorn (talk) 19:44, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
Sorry about that. You restored the speedy deletion tag, and sometimes the script mistakes that for tagging the page. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 19:48, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

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Thanks. Wasn't entirely sure what to do with that article. Quick bit of advice please. Should it just go straight to PROD if not an obvious CSD and the problem is it has no sources? MM (I did the who in the whatnow?) (I did it!) 13:42, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

Any BLP needs refs, although prodBLP is only one way to hurry them along.... Hairhorn (talk) 13:46, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
Well shoot, three guesses as to who forgot about that BLP variation of PROD? ^^' Well, thanks again for fixing that mess. MM (I did the who in the whatnow?) (I did it!) 13:49, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

Hi, thank you for trying to improve Mr. Mendis' page. It appears that his circles of former students and military officials (like myself in Europe) to update his page. Is there a way that you could help improve this page? To me, he is widely known and documented his activities. We appreciate your assistance. Thanks.... Major General Steve Swatztkoft — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 20:31, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

Mr. Patrick Mendis[edit]

Dear Hairhorn, thank you for trying to improve Mr. Mendis' page. It appears that his circles of former students and military officials (like myself in Europe) to update his page. Is there a way that you could help improve this page? To me, he is widely known and documented his activities. We appreciate your assistance. Thanks.... Major General Steve Swatztkoft — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 20:13, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

More edits are welcome, especially ones that are neutral in tone, well sourced and are not from fake accounts. Hairhorn (talk) 05:29, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

Interdisciplinary team approaches to health care[edit]

I have removed the {{prod}} tag from Interdisciplinary team approaches to health care, which you proposed for deletion. I'm leaving this message here to notify you about it. If you still think the article should be deleted, please don't add the {{prod}} template back to the article. Instead, feel free to list it at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. Thanks! G. C. Hood (talk) 22:50, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

Nosratollah khakian[edit]

I've deleted it G4. I declined CorenBot's copyvio tag - the page cited is an attributed copy of the Wikipedia article. Peridon (talk) 13:46, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

Cheers. Hairhorn (talk) 13:47, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

Lassy Bouity[edit]

I reverted the speedy tag since the tag had been challenged by someone who was theoretically a third party (never mind that that the "contested deletion" notes between the two editors look remarkably similar....). I went ahead and put it up at AfD instead, where the article (and the sockpuppetry) will get an appropriate amount of attention. Thanks. --Finngall talk 02:44, 15 August 2014 (UTC)