User talk:Heegoop

Wrong place?

While it's quite nice to see you've started yourself a personal page, this may not be the best place for it. People post comments/notes/messages to and about you on your user talk page. Perhaps you could move this to User:Heegoop instead? - Fennec (はさばくのきつね) 17:57, 16 Jun 2004 (UTC)

I'll do it tomorrow

Great. :) Also, note that you can sign your messages with ~~~~. -Fennec (はさばくのきつね) 19:16, 16 Jun 2004 (UTC)

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Eye colour of redheads

I can't find many stats, but here's one data set I could see tabulated: [1].

Rank ordering is, from most common: 1. Brown, 2. Blue, 3. Hazel = Green.

-- The Anome 20:33, 27 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Skull and crossbones

Thanks for your note on my talk page! However, I'm not quite sure what you mean. It seems to me that the skull and crossbones article already to links to the Jolly Roger article, for example. Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you're talking about. Either way, the beauty of wikipedia is that you don't have to ask for changes to be made, you can make them yourself! If you feel something needs to be changed on that article, go ahead and make the change. On the other hand, if you feel that a page needs attention, it's better to post a note on the appropriate page (such as Wikipedia:Requests for page expansion or Wikipedia:Pages needing attention) rather than asking specific users. HTH!  – Jrdioko (Talk) 05:48, 30 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Vandal

For one, I don't even know what you mean. Second of all, why are you sending this to me? Mike H 20:19, Jul 10, 2004 (UTC)

(In answer to your question, Heegoop, no, I wasn't calling you a vandal. The entry on my talk page headed "Vandal" is someone else replying to me about a bit of tidying I did on an article, removing vandalism. It's not related to you in any way). -- The Anome 22:32, 10 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Re: deleting talk

Regarding the comment you left me on my talk page: I hardly ever delete content from my talk page, usually opting to move it to an archive page. However, that particular comment was unsigned, ungrammatical, and did not make sense to me in the context of the discussion. As such, I had no qualms removing it. If you have any more questions please reference Wikipedia:Talk Etiquette FAQ or feel free to ask me. —Ed Cormany 16:47, 11 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Re: humans as animals

Yes, thankyou very much, I am aware that humans are animals; I think I may have learnt that during my biology degree. What you added to the human article was silly and not up to the standard of the rest of the article;

"Humans are animals because (a. They are in the kingdom Animalia. (b. They are warm blooded like other mammals and birds" [2] - is patently obvious. The human#Homo sapiens compared to other species section is much better because it discusses the anthropogenic arrogance affect rather than just repeating info in the taxobox. Dunc_Harris|☺ 19:49, 25 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Althought I also think that humans are an animal species, adding a category of non-human animals seems too much like trying to prove a point of some kind. - Skysmith 11:57, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Cats as Carnivores

Re: Carnivore

I have a pet cat, and it eats grass. And I swear i've seen lions do so on a documentary.

It also will eat vegatables fed to it from the dinner table (even those with no contact with meat/meat products).

Now I'll agree it might not able to digest it. But are you sure that true carnivores can eat non-meat products, as long as they can't digest it. Rememeber much of the vegetative matter you eat isn't really digested either.

Good edit though. Did you have a weblink to where you got that list? Drop me line at my Talk Page. --ZZ 03:44, 1 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Years in television

Hi Heegoop! I changed the sections back, and explained why in the edit summary. As 2000 is the last year of the 20th century, it belongs to 1990s (there must be 10 years in all decades!). Let me know if you have questions.--Ëzhiki (erinaceus europeaus) 16:45, Oct 20, 2004 (UTC)

Yeah, it seems that decades can be named either ways (so 1990 can be either the last year of 1980s or the first year of 1990s). Since it would be silly going through all of the articles and changing them from one system to another (not to mention it would meet resistance from ignoramuses who still think 2000 was the first year of the 21st century), I will change "Years in television" back. Should have done my research first :) This does get confusing at times though.—Ëzhiki (erinaceus europeaus) 19:07, Oct 20, 2004 (UTC)

List of rock and roll albums

The list of rock and roll albums compiles professional best-of lists, so please don't add albums to it unless they are on one of the lists. Your addition of Tracy Chapman's self-titled album refered to the VH1 list, but the album is not on that list AFAICT, so I have removed it. Tuf-Kat 21:00, Oct 23, 2004 (UTC)

Duran Duran

Any good reason why you changed tried to tired? --Tagishsimon (talk)

Ageing links

I'm sorry to tell you this, but the article ageing should NOT link to the terms quadragenarian through nonagenarian. They re-direct to ageing as a survival of Vfd. Georgia guy 23:04, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Fields

Interesting question. Businesspeople generally give the product or service of their industry when asked their "field". So, someone who worked for Revlon would say "cosmetics", someone from IBM would say "computers". A medical doctor would say either "general practice" (or "family practice") if he's the kind of doctor you go to for ordinary sickness and minor injury (general practitioner), and would specify "radiology" or "emergency medicine" if he's a specialist, or he might say his field is "medical research". A veterinarian would specify either agricultural medicine, or companion animals (i.e. dogs, cats), or small animals (hamsters, gerbils) and exotics (i.e. pygmy goats, skunks). Tuf-Kat 21:22, Apr 22, 2005 (UTC)

Well, I'm not sure the many different kinds of fields have anything particularly unifying about them except in that they are careers. You could start a Wikiproject on occupations -- I bet there'd be some people interested in that. I'm afraid I've got too much on my plate for the moment to really help out though. Tuf-Kat 06:18, Apr 23, 2005 (UTC)

Years in television

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Stylistic changes

Please do not make stylistic changes to multiple articles without attempting to first reach a consensus. Your attempts to change all instances of "American" to "United States" or "United Statesian" is not supported by the Wikipedia style guide, and it makes the prose clumsier and less readable. Firebug 03:19, 30 May 2005 (UTC)

You have referenced Alternative words for American in justifying your alterations. First of all, this is an article, not a stylesheet. We have a List of ethnic slurs as well, but that certainly doesn't mean it's appropriate to throw them into articles. Also, even the article you reference as justification notes that "References to these words have been around since the early days of the republic, but they are virtually unused and American remains by far the most common term." NPOV doesn't require that we coin silly neologisms. Firebug 03:29, 30 May 2005 (UTC)

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Three-revert rule

It is Wikipedia policy that you may only revert an article a maximum of three times in a 24-hour period. (See Wikipedia:Three revert rule.) You have already used three reverts within the past day on Hasbro. If you continue to revert, you may be temporarily blocked from editing Wikipedia. Firebug 17:27, 30 May 2005 (UTC)

Since you performed a 4th revert within 24 hours to Hasbro after being warned of the 3RR, I have reported your actions on Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/3RR. You may be blocked by an administrator for up to 24 hours as a result of this infraction. Firebug 19:33, 30 May 2005 (UTC)

3RR

Hi Heegoop, you've been reported for a 3RR violation at Hasbro and have been blocked temporarily from editing. If you feel this block is unfair, feel free to e-mail me using the link on my user page. SlimVirgin ^(talk) 23:50, May 30, 2005 (UTC)

Aristotle vandalism

Please do not insert nonsense into serious articles [3]. If you want to have fun, try Uncyclopedia. Pavel Vozenilek 19:22, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

American / United States

Once again, I must ask that you please do not make stylistic changes to multiple articles simultaneously without attempting to first reach a consensus via proper channels. Whether or not the use of "American" to mean "from the United States" is etymologically accurate, it is the standard usage. Changing "American" to a multi-word phrase merely makes the prose clumsier and less readable. What is most troubling about this is that you have not made an effort to discuss this on the affected Talk pages. Rather, you have engaged in protracted edit war (especially on Hasbro) to enforce your desired style. This is not considered good Wikiquette. Please reconsider your actions. If you continue on your present course, I may open a RFC on your behavior in this matter. Firebug 03:49, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Wait a second, Heegoop. I really do appreciate what your wrote on my talk page, but there's a problem here. I didn't coin any terms. I actually found it pretty weird that this is happening, because it made no sense to me. Then I checked the edit history for the Vila Sésamo article (is that right?). Only then I understood. That was a mistake of mine. I didn't mean "United Stated" in the link. I meant "United States". That's where I wanted "American" to point to. It was really a mistake of mine. Like you, I also share some discontentment when I think the way that, whenever you say "American" to any person nowadays, they'll almost always end up thinking of the United States country instead of the American continent. It's kinda revolting, I agree. Some languages have terms that were created to try solving this issue. They are somewhat neologisms, but they are used once in a while. I can speak for Portuguese, which is what I speak. The term is "estadounidense". I think that's it.

However, yeah, it was all a mistake. I'm sorry. Didn't think you'd end up liking something like that either. I'm also sorry to say this, but it's better to leave this idea alone. It won't work. As far as I know, the term doesn't exist, so I think it's useless to try to create something like that right now. Hope you'll understand.

See you.--Kaonashi 02:32, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Are you listening to me? I said I didn't create that term, nor anything else. To keep asking for help makes no sense. I suggest you to hear what's been said about your actions instead of fighting against other people without even reflecting first. If you keep going against the rules, you will be punished. I hope I'm being clear this time.--Kaonashi 22:51, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

By the same token, you should not have moved American English to United States English without first seeking consensus by following the procedure at Wikipedia:Requested moves. I have moved it back to American English, which is by far the more commonly used term. --Angr/_{tɔk tə mi} 6 July 2005 06:26 (UTC)

I'm going to reiterate what has been said above: stop changing "American" to "US". First, it's "U.S.", not "US." Second, "American" is the proper adjective to describe someone or something that is of the United States. This is true not only in the United States but among English speaking people of other countries as well. Postdlf 23:28, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

I personally don't have a problem with you replacing "America" with "United States", as the latter is more common and precise as a reference to the country. But "United States" is simply NOT an adjective, nor is "U.S." the dominant term. "American" is the customary word, regardless of what you may prefer. Stop making those changes unless you can prove that someone from the United States is not overwhelmingly called "American" in the English language. Postdlf 20:46, 16 July 2005 (UTC)

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You may not remove the VFD template from articles while a vote is in progress. Doing so is considered vandalism. I have tried to assume good faith in dealing with you, but doing so is becoming harder and harder as a result of your actions. Firebug 22:11, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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Nashville

The information you are adding to the summary of the Nashville article is not correct. Nashville-Davidson (balance) does not correspond to the old City of Nashville. Nashville-Davidson (balance) is Nashville minus seperately incorporated satellite cities. It is a designation used only by the U.S. census (so that they don't count the same people twice for two cities) and has virtually no use or value of public interest. Nashville-Davidson (balance) includes many suburbs and rural areas that were not part of the old City of Nashville. The old City of Nashville hasn't existed since the 60s and no one in Nashville (besides historians and old folks) have any idea what it corresponded to as everyone these days considers Nashville synonymous with Davidson County. Putting esoteric information about a peculiar census designation in the summary of the Nashville article isn't appropriate in my opinion, especially since it isn't accurate to begin with. Kaldari 19:54, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

Nashville-Davidson (balance) would have to correspond to the former City of Nashville since it says in the article of the balance "This portion generally corresponds to the area of the City of Nashville before the formation of the consolidated Metropolitan Government of Nashville and Davidson County." Heegoop, 13 January 2006 (UTC).

It says that it "generally corresponds" because most of areas unincorporated prior to consolidation were sparsely populated and thus didn't make much difference census-wise. I have corrected the article to say "roughly" rather than "generally" so that it is less misleading. I wish I could draw you a picture to explain things better, but I'm afraid the wiki-software isn't that advanced yet :) Kaldari 20:18, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

Hopefully this will help it make sense:

Kaldari 20:39, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

I have moved our discussion to the Nashville talk page, as I believe it would be useful to have a record of it there. Please add any additional comments there. Thanks! Kaldari 21:03, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

I disagree with your edits to the Nashville-Davidson balance article. "Nashville-Davidson balance" is not the same thing as the former City of Nashville. It's not a city (or a former city). It's simply a technical demographic term used by the US Census bereau so that they can avoid counting people twice who live within cities that exist inside Nashville (and thus live in two different cities at the same time). The term isn't used for anything except statistical purposes. The article wouldn't even exist except for the fact that the bot that automatically creates wikipedia articles from census data created it. Kaldari 00:08, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Are you interested in discussing your edits to Nashville-Davidson (balance), Tennessee or would you prefer that we just keep reverting each other? Kaldari 03:02, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Pamela Anderson

Hello, I noticed that you added Category:Vegans to Pamela Anderson. Well, in her bio, in the section "Animal rights" it says that she's not a vegan. So, if she is could you change that, and give a source, if possible. Thanks. Gilliamjf 16:25, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

TMNT (1987)

Case of the Killer Pizzas

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TMNT (1987) Episode Airdates

I noticed you changed the airdates for the TMNT 1987 episode guide. Where did you get those dates? I don't know if the site is incorrect, but I got the dates here:

1. Turtle Tracks
2. Enter the Shredder
3. A Thing About Rats
4. Hot Rodding Teenagers from Dimension X
5. Shredder & Splintered

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Roseanne

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Your page move

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Suburb update

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Silver Ranger

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Violet

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Mesquite

'Why isn't Mesquite not in the Las Vegas metro area?'

The simple answer is it is not near the valley and it not considered part of the metro area as described in the article. Consider that there is 80 miles or so of desert between the valley and Mesquite. There are objections to including Boulder City in the metro area and that is close. If Mesquite is in the metro area, then add Lauhghlin, Pahrump and Bullhead City. 02:38, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Actually per the census bureau it is the Las Vegas-Paradise-Pahrump, NV CSA. The article has never been intended to map to that area, but to cover the valley and the name was chosen to match what was used for other areas. If you want to run with your definitiion, then you need to explain what is different between the Las Vegas metropolitan area and Clark County, Nevada. And that would leave the Pahrump issue open. Vegaswikian (talk) 02:50, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

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