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  11. July 2011— The end of the universe (current talk page)

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[edit] AppleInsider

I think AppleInsider probably meets WP:RS and thus it seems reasonable that they have their own article. Care to discuss it further? -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 21:57, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Sure. If you look at the PROD concern, it wasn't the reliability by the number of sources present, namely only one that's independent of the subject. You can read Wikipedia:Notability (web)#Criteria for yourself, but it requires multiple sources unless it's won an award (a fact which should be cited itself). I'm also concerned, but less so, about the quality of the existing source, which is seven years old and mentions the site as part of a onetime event. Nothing about what the site is or does on a daily basis is sourced. HereToHelp (talk to me) 22:49, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
I don't know what you can write about so I've re-prodded it. I guess if its deleted it should redirect to Apple Rumor Community. -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 07:09, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
Technically, one a PROD template has been removed the article can never be rePRODed, but the closing admin might make an exception. If not, it would make for an uncontroversial AfD. HereToHelp (talk to me) 16:42, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

[edit] July 2011 Newsletter for WikiProject United States

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[edit] Can you help with this confusion?

I am confused by Wikipedia instructions. I [requested a move], then another user [redirected instead], now what should I do? Prapsnot 2.0 (talk) 06:36, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Non-free rationale for File:Nanosaur2Screenshot2.png

Thanks for uploading or contributing to File:Nanosaur2Screenshot2.png. I notice the file page specifies that the file is being used under non-free content criteria, but there is not a suitable explanation or rationale as to why each specific use in Wikipedia is acceptable. Please go to the file description page, and edit it to include a non-free rationale.

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[edit] September 2011 Newsletter for WikiProject United States

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[edit] Talkback

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Hello, HereToHelp. You have new messages at Talk:Steve Jobs.
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-- Rrburke (talk) 18:18, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Orphaned non-free image File:IPhone 4 in hand.jpg

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Thanks for uploading File:IPhone 4 in hand.jpg. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Mosmof (talk) 23:33, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

[edit] iPhone 4GS

Can this page be unprotected and/or redirected to iPhone 4S? Cheers. -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 17:05, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for that. -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 21:15, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

[edit] New Page Patrol survey

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[edit] Categories for discussion nomination of Category:Portals needing attention

Category:Portals needing attention, which you created, has been nominated for discussion. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 20:15, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Unprotect

Can you please go through your your protection logs and remove any outdated protections, particularly to Apple-related articles? Marcus Qwertyus 00:49, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

These fall into two categories: full protection of nonexistent pages or redirects that sound like, but are not, Apple products, and semiprotection of actual articles. Pages in the former category should remain protected unless Apple releases a product of that name (e.g. iPad 3, about which nothing verifiable can be said -- at the moment). However, I changed the destination of a few of these redirects. In the second category, I notice:
  • Another admin, Courcelles, originally semiprotected iPad due to vandalism. I will unprotect the page.
  • iPod has been semiprotected for more than two years. I unprotected it.
  • iPhone is not protected.
  • Apple Inc. has been protected for more than a year. Unprotected.
  • Edit protection for Macintosh expired in August and apparently there has not been trouble.
  • I feel that Steve Jobs would attract a large amount of vandalism if unprotected, but if you insist we can try it and find out.
I reserve the right to reinstate semiprotection if a large amount of vandalism occurs, on a page-by-page basis. I also think that having sysop-only move protection is nothing to be concerned about. This was hardly an exhaustive survey or Apple articles, and I will happily examine any page you name specifically. Thank you bringing the matter to my attention. Cheers, HereToHelp (talk to me) 05:39, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
I was thinking more along the lines of IPhone 4gs, iPhone four, iPhone 4 prototype, Original iPad, Smart Cover, and Smart Covers. (I don't see how a small discussion can be made mandatorily enforceable by page protection)


To be honest with you, WP:Chrystal is a poorly thought-out policy and it should be interpreted within reason per WP:NOTBUREAU. The policy was originally crafted with the intent of keeping people from publishing their own rumors but "does not put a blanket bar on all speculation from outside sources." After I made a few wording changes to clarify the interpretation of the policy, in a discussion I was not involved in, a few editors got consensus to rewrite the policy with a blanket ban on rumor articles. The new policy does not appear to be within reason. If this shot in the dark, or all these can get an article, why can't iPhone 4S? If we're not supposed to document unacknowledged products then how are we supposed to document unacknowledged government special access programs like Area 51? Marcus Qwertyus 07:07, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
It's certainly a complicated issue, and I don't have the final say. My key concern is that while it may be possible to write a perfectly good article about product speculation, it often (usually) isn't actually done. Instead you get anonymous users creating three different copies of the same article with poor sourcing and abuse of formatting and no experienced user knows they exist and it's just total garbage from a quality control standpoint. That's the situation I'm trying to prevent - not experienced editors coming to a civil, thought-out consensus. More harm is done by people who don't know what they are doing, or don't bother to understand all sides of the issue, than someone who has made an informed decision different from yours. I'm trying to take the raw enthusiasm and shape it into something coherent. How well I achieve that goal is an open question.
I'll break your specific pages into three categories. The iPhone 4 redirects will never be worthy of articles, and on the off-chance that changes, they can be unprotected at that time. Unlocking Original iPad could start that whole discussion again, which I'm not opposed to doing in general, but the new consensus needs to precede the changing of the page. Besides, by the precedent of iPhone (original), you'd want iPad (original), and that page is unlocked. As for Smart Cover, you don't even need to start a discussion, just generate enough quality content in the unlocked iPad accessories#Smart Cover to show that it deserves a separate article. If you insist I will unprotect Smart Cover, but I really think the accessories page will suffice.
Please read item #5 of WP:CRYSTAL, which specifically forbids articles on product announcements. This may be the part that you referred to as "a few editors got consensus to rewrite the policy with a blanket ban on rumor articles," but it actually codifies what I've seen happen naturally. When the iPhone 4 leaked prototypes became so important we had to include them (though I was reluctant), they were part of the history section of the main iPhone article until the iPhone 4 was officially announced. This actually works in your favor: it's easier to craft a well-written and well-sourced paragraph than it is to write a whole article and justify its existence from meager speculative sources. Notice that these are very different arguments from "I must follow policy" (which, secondarily and subject to interpretation, still applies).
I'd like to emphasize another nuance of the policy, which is that plenty of topics which should not have a separate article can be mentioned or even discussed at length in articles not solely about them. My recommendation to you is to shift your focus from what articles we do or do not have to what content we have. Notice whether and to what extent it is organized, coherent, easy to maintain, well-sourced, and links to other content when appropriate. Cheers, HereToHelp (talk to me) 04:28, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

[edit] December 2011 Newsletter for WikiProject United States

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[edit] Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Cathedral of the Immaculate Conception of the Holy Virgin Mary

hello,

you opposed the promotion of this picture, but now, as User:Fallschirmjäger retouched the picture, can you take a second look? Thanks. ♫GoP♫TCN 19:22, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

[edit] January 2012 Newsletter for WikiProject United States and supported projects

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[edit] Barnstar

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[edit] MSU Interview

Dear HereToHelp,

My name is Jonathan Obar user:Jaobar, I'm a professor in the College of Communication Arts and Sciences at Michigan State University and a Teaching Fellow with the Wikimedia Foundation's Education Program. This semester I've been running a little experiment at MSU, a class where we teach students about becoming Wikipedia administrators. Not a lot is known about your community, and our students (who are fascinated by wiki-culture by the way!) want to learn how you do what you do, and why you do it. A while back I proposed this idea (the class) to the communityHERE, where it was met mainly with positive feedback. Anyhow, I'd like my students to speak with a few administrators to get a sense of admin experiences, training, motivations, likes, dislikes, etc. We were wondering if you'd be interested in speaking with one of our students.


So a few things about the interviews:

  • Interviews will last between 15 and 30 minutes.
  • Interviews can be conducted over skype (preferred), IRC or email. (You choose the form of communication based upon your comfort level, time, etc.)
  • All interviews will be completely anonymous, meaning that you (real name and/or pseudonym) will never be identified in any of our materials, unless you give the interviewer permission to do so.
  • All interviews will be completely voluntary. You are under no obligation to say yes to an interview, and can say no and stop or leave the interview at any time.
  • The entire interview process is being overseen by MSU's institutional review board (ethics review). This means that all questions have been approved by the university and all students have been trained how to conduct interviews ethically and properly.


Bottom line is that we really need your help, and would really appreciate the opportunity to speak with you. If interested, please send me an email at obar@msu.edu (to maintain anonymity) and I will add your name to my offline contact list. If you feel comfortable doing so, you can post your nameHERE instead.

If you have questions or concerns at any time, feel free to email me at obar@msu.edu. I will be more than happy to speak with you.

Thanks in advance for your help. We have a lot to learn from you.

Sincerely,

Jonathan Obar --Jaobar (talk) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chlopeck (talkcontribs) 22:48, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

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