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Human trafficking

Maintenance note[edit]

I maintain this page by deleting items after a week or two. Hmains (talk) 16:09, 15 October 2010 (UTC)


You may wish to make use of a 'Dates' tab in edit mode that will help with unlinking unnecessary date links. Simply copy the entire contents of User:Bobblewik/monobook.js to your own monobook. Then follow the instructions in your monobook to clear the cache (i.e. press Ctrl-Shift-R in Firefox, or Ctrl-F5 in IE) before it will work. It also provides a 'Units' tab. If you know what you are doing, you can copy and modify the subfiles as you wish. I just thought you might be interested. Regards. bobblewik 20:03, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

The reason it fails is because you refer to User:Hmains/monobook.js/dates.js and User:Hmains/monobook.js/unitformatter.js and these articles do not exist. You have two options:
Try again. I am happy to walk you through the process. So feel free to ask me again. bobblewik 12:03, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

hold for cat discussion until find example[edit]

There are some categories that are used only for categories, and never for articles. Some of these categories have been made into 'hidden' categories, and yet they are never in fact 'hidden' since the hidden feature only applies to articles and not categories. So the hidden category always displays on the category screen as 'hidden'--which is obviously a contradiction. I suggest, that category categories not be classified as hidden. When I have tried to remove the hidden classification in such cases, someone always just adds it back in. Without something said in this categorization guideline I have nothing much justify my removal.


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  • 12 to 12 handled by find/replace table; not by module

public public

to fix

to avoid disambiguation pages use: |{{.*dis}}


  • to auto fill edit summary: "I haven't found a way to get autocomplete in IE at https with the current setup on Wikipedia's side. If http is acceptable to you then you can disable "Always use a secure connection when logged in" at Special:Preferences, log out, close IE, start IE again and log in at PrimeHunter (talk) 16:50, 31 August 2013 (UTC)"

it may also be necessary to force the WP address to be http: instead of https:


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Hi Hmains, just wanted to let you know that I have added the autopatrolled right to your account, as you have created numerous, valid articles. This feature should have little to no effect on your editing, and is simply intended to reduce the workload on new page patrollers. For more information on the patroller right, see Wikipedia:Autopatrolled. Feel free to leave me a message if you have any questions. Happy editing! — ξxplicit 21:36, 3 July 2010 (UTC)


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Linking Dates (centuries, decades, years, months, days, etc)[edit]


As always, the content of the linked-to article must provide substantive content to the linked-from article. The MOS decided most dates do not do this. Hmains (talk) 03:36, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

what links here

filter by name:

  • calendar|day|week|month|year|decade|century|millennium|Showa|Shōwa|Meiji|Taisho|Taishō| in |Other events|(number)|(disambiguation)|Aught-|SO 8601|Timeline|acronyms|initialisms


  • {{Decadebox|{{Year dab|{{Year nav|{{Month header}}|{{Day}}|Category:Days of the year|{{Portal:Current events/Events by month}}|{{Months in the|Eastern Orthodox liturgical days|#REDIRECT|disambig|{{events by month links}}|month category|Months of the|The following events occurred in

Web page has expired[edit]

I follow the directions in the message shown on the screen.

"Click on the Refresh button on the toolbar to reload the page. After refreshing, you might need to navigate to the specific webpage again, or re-enter information."

On my computer I have to remember that "refresh" looks like a circle with an arrow at the top, and it's the fourth of five icons to the right of the URL. I don't even know what the others are. Then a box pops up and I have to click on "retry".— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 21:04, 1 July 2012 (UTC)


Since you are very active in the project, would you like to be an administrator? Do you need tools to move/delete pages for example? Are you active in WP space, involved in xFDs or something similar? -- Magioladitis (talk) 07:03, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

I'll second Magioladitis here. I think you'd do fantastic as an administrator. The choice is entirely yours, but just know that should you ever submit an RfA, you'll have my support. Kurtis (talk) 03:53, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
  • Thanks to you both, but I think I would lose interest in WP doing admin things. Hmains (talk) 03:56, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
Understandable. Do whatever you feel comfortable doing, it's not my place to pressure you.
But in the off chance that you ever change your mind, know that I would feel confident in entrusting you with the tools. =) Kurtis (talk) 04:05, 2 September 2012 (UTC)


Hi Hmains. I would like to thank you on behalf of the WP:WPSCH for the 100s of AWB cleanups you have been doing to school articles. Such articles are a regular problem area, so if you come across any redlinked alumni, please don't hesitate to remove them, and fix any obvious vandalisms. Also, if the article talk pages don't have the {{WikiProject Schools |class= |importance= |needs-infobox=}} you may wish to add it so we can assess them and keep a track on them. Thanks again, and happy editing! Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 01:08, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

  • Well thanks. Working on all the school categories has been a hard/exhausting task. The article fix up is just something that comes along with AWB general fixes, nothing I specifically targeted. Hmains (talk) 01:12, 24 September 2012 (UTC)


  • The delinking of dates was exhaustively discussed by WP prior to the current wording of WP:DATELINK and WP:YEARLINK and MOS:UNLINKDATES being agreed upon. Days, months, years, decades, centuries, etc were all included in the long discussion.

WikiProject Cleanup[edit]

Hello, Hmains.

You are invited to join WikiProject Cleanup, a WikiProject and resource for Wikipedia cleanup listings, information and discussion.
To join the project, just add your name to the member list. Northamerica1000(talk) 14:11, 24 February 2013 (UTC)


Whatever it is, this problem has not been fixed and there seems to be no activity by the people responsible for this mess to fix it. Hmains (talk) 02:13, 19 September 2013 (UTC) Hmains

I'm sorry that you're still having this frustrating problem. BJorsch named above the three different places where this problem may be caused: 1.your own computer, 2.the WMF's servers, or 3.a server in between you and the WMF's servers.

Each user is necessarily responsible for cacheing problems that appear in his own browser. Please follow all the steps at WP:BYPASS and let us know if that (hopefully!) solves the problem for you. If the problem is the WMF's caches, then it will likely be fixed relatively soon. If the problem is at a third-party server in between you and the WMF (e.g., on your corporate or university network or your local ISP), then I'm afraid that there is often nothing that either you or we are able to do about it except wait for the third-party server to update its cache. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 18:53

AWB: mass category creation[edit]

Can AWB create mass categories? E.g. i need to create categories from ”Football clubs established in 1900” to ”Football clubs established in 2020”. Each category must have 2 categories- parents, one stable ”Football clubs establishements by year” and second incrementable ”Establishements in {{year}}", where {{year}} has value from 1900 to 2020, for each new category incrementation +1. Its possible to do that with AWB? XXN (talk) 19:50, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

@XXN:, yes, check out CSV Loader. You will need to file a BRFA and get approval before you start creating the categories. Ganeshk (talk) 22:42, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
Thanks, but i dont understand how to use your plugin)) I know about bot policy, i will work on, i have already submitted an request for approval. XXN (talk) 23:35, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
Please follow the steps in this walk through. Please leave a message on my talk page if you have any questions or run into any issues. Ganeshk (talk) 14:17, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

Bodies of water categories[edit]

Hi! Would you mind not emptying out the county-level bodies of water category, please? I think it's sufficiently broad enough that they aren't "nearly empty" and I'm working on populating them with more articles. I think it's better for bodies of water not to be lumped in with landforms when there are so many bodies of water. For instance, Category:Bodies of water in Columbia County, Pennsylvania has nearly 30 pages. Thanks, --Jakob (talk) 13:08, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

  • In the category structure and in the Landforms article, bodies of water are just another landform. While the types of water bodies can be categorized as such at the state and national level, there is no reason to do so at the county level just because it can be done. To have an article categorized by its being a river or a lake in state xxx and being a landform in county yyy is completely sufficient for navigation. I am still working on getting all the landforms into county level categories instead of being in geography county level categories and I am doing this for all 50 states. You are adding an unnecessary and unneeded set of categories. Your example of a county with many water bodies is very rare across the entire set of US countries. Even if not very rare, the county water body categories are not necessary or helpful to WP. Hmains (talk) 01:48, 4 July 2014 (UTC).
  • It's certainly not that rare in Pennsylvania counties. And it's easier to navigate categories with ten articles instead of categories with hundreds of articles (state-level bodies of water categories) or tens of thousands (national-level bodies of water categories). Perhaps as a compromise though, I'll stop creating more county-level bodies of water categories without WikiProject approval if you'll stop removing article from the existing ones without WikiProject approval. Thoughts? --Jakob (talk) 02:02, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
  • I can stop but what WikiProject? As you must know, such projects are not authoritative over anything in WP and are often dominated/controlled by a small number (even 1) editor who have already established exactly what they want/not want in WP and will fight by any means to achieve that ownership. As to how to navigate: categories are not for doing finds against specific names of objects (search is for that) but for finding objects related to something else that you already know about. I believe if you look at national categories, for example, you will not find the thousands of articles you claim are there: the structure (most of which I established) is not set up that way. The county level landform categories are sufficient and will not overwhelm anyone looking around for related items within a county. Hmains (talk) 02:16, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
  • I've got no objection to that. I only wanted the county-level bodies of water categories to remain intact. --Jakob (talk) 18:40, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
  • Can you set this up as you go? I am still working my way though county landforms categories and still have a dozen or so states to do. When you create a county bodies of water category, can you put it into the parent categories (and sort order) as shown in Delaware? Can you create new Category:Bodies of water of xxstate by county categories as needed and also can you put it into the parent categories (and sort order) as shown in Delaware? Hmains (talk) 18:55, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
  • Also for each state, are you prepared to populate the bodies of water county categories with all the articles found in the types of water bodies in Category:Bodies of water of xxstate? Hmains (talk) 18:59, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
  • I can do that. --Jakob (talk) 20:11, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
  • I suppose the existing categories can be moved since there are only 72. Would that be a better job to do manually or with a tool like AWB? --Jakob (talk) 21:33, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
  • I use AWB to move lots of things and I can certainly move these if you want me to. The manual effort (I have no idea how to make AWB do such things) is to create all the necessary categories and put one article in each one. This is what takes so long in all my endless category work. Hmains (talk) 00:12, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
  • Jakob: I created the parent category Category:Bodies of water of Pennsylvania by county and moved all the county bodies of water subcats in it. I also changed the parent of each of the county bodies of water from 'Geography of xx county' to 'Landforms of xx county'--all as discussed above. If you can create all the 'Bodies of water of xxx County, Pennsylvania', then I can AWB move ALL the Pennsylvania bodies of water to those new categories, emptying the 'Bodies of water in xxx County, Pennsylvania' as discussed above. Hmains (talk) 16:56, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
  • Thanks, that was helpful. BTW are you aware that the page move function has been extended to categories? I'll get to that as soon as I finish repopulating the categories. --Jakob (talk) 17:31, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
    • I knew about the category page move but don't know who has it. I now see I have it, but I have not yet used it. Hmains (talk) 17:37, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
  • Jakob My mistake which I did not notice. Thanks for noticing. If you are editing each of these categories can you easily fix this? If not, I will fix them. Hmains (talk) 17:37, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
  • I think there are bots to recategorize the articles. --Jakob (talk) 18:16, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
  • There are bots that only admins can use; other bots can only be used by the bot owner; there are no 'public' bots. Hmains (talk) 18:53, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
  • I just fixed all example Bodies errors which I made. Hmains (talk) 18:23, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

Mitchell Falls[edit]

Thanks for the new category - I've been there several times. Dougweller (talk) 08:00, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

  • and thank you Hmains (talk) 15:40, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

Date links[edit]

Hi there! You do have an exclusion list for articles where dates should not be unlinked, correct? If so, could you please place the Pervomaysky, Russia article on it? I see you have done two AWB edits in the past few months, unlinking May 1, but that link is there as a part of an explanation of the etymology, not a random remnant from the days when all dates were linked. Explanatory date links are permitted by WP:DATELINK; this one seems to be an oversight. Thanks!—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); August 7, 2014; 12:09 (UTC)

  • I can do it, but what information contained in the May 1 article adds to what the reader needs to know when reading the Pervomaysky, Russia article. It looks like May 1 just contains 'so what' events that happened to happen on that day and adds nothing at all. Hmains (talk) 02:59, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

United States police[edit]

The United States Police are a gang. They all wear the same color based on their location or division, they control territory, and they traffic narcotics. They carry out intimidation tactics to make sure they're the only ones capable of operating in a certain area, and use excessive violence to uphold their 'turf'. They are, by all definition, a gang; a group of criminals. Their favorite method of intimidation is restraining the victim, then circling and kicking the restrained victim, they fire guns in the streets at innocents, and maintain that they're helping their neighborhoods when their mere presence escalates violence. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 18:30, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

What you or I my think about a subject has no relevance to what gets placed into Wikipedia. Wikipedia requires documentation and references from reliable sources for text to be placed into Wikipedia. Hmains (talk) 02:01, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

A kitten for you![edit]

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For keep giving us feedback for AWB :)

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You've recently edited a number of pages in the Lakes in Waldo County, Maine category, adding them also to the Lakes in Maine category. I thought WP practice was to put pages in more specific categories and usually not also put them in more general categories that also include the more specific category. Has that practice changed? Jbening (talk) 16:12, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

I added the all included template. There are exceptions and I would particularly make an exception to have a category match the rest in all other US landforms by county, which generally do not break out county landforms to subcats unless there are a great number of articles in each--which is certainly not the case here. Hmains (talk) 19:50, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
Interesting--thank you. Yes, just having checked three other states at random, I see they all categorize landforms by county but lakes statewide. So should the lakes-by-county categories for Maine be undone, to make that state consistent with others? Jbening (talk) 20:29, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
Once categories are created by someone, it is difficult for someone else to get rid of them. I just work around them. Hmains (talk) 21:50, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
If the articles on lakes in Maine were systematically removed from by-counties categories, and if no one objected, then the categories would only have a shadow existence, wouldn't they? I'm concerned that, as is, someone like me will think it was inappropriate to categorize pages with a more general category as well as an included more specific category, and will end up reversing your recent work. Jbening (talk) 23:40, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
I will not object, but some of my work yesterday has already been reverted by one editor who owns all things regarding Washington County, Maine and insists on having his county level landform categories for that county. Hmains (talk) 16:52, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
I've raised the question here ( and asked Nambia their opinion on the subject. If you know someone else with an interest in Maine and/or Lakes, I'd be interested in their input too. Jbening (talk) 03:33, 2 September 2014 (UTC)