User talk:HoldenV8

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Hello HoldenV8! Welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. If you decide that you need help, check out Wikipedia:Where to ask a question, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Please remember to sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. You may also push the signature button Button sig2.png located above the edit window. Finally, please do your best to always fill in the edit summary field. This is considered an important guideline in Wikipedia. Even a short summary is better than no summary. Below are some recommended guidelines to facilitate your involvement. Happy Editing! -- LittleOldMe 17:32, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
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Please be careful with links, and check them with the 'show preview' function instead of 'save page'. HDT links to heat deflection temperature, nothing whatsoever to do with the Holden Dealer Team. --Falcadore 21:40, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

NSWRL seasons[edit]

Hi there. Could I just ask you to do me a favour and refrain from removing all the redlinks on NSWRL seasons' articles? They might not look attractive, but they're very important and helpful when creating new articles for players.--Jeff79 (talk) 05:56, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Coordinates[edit]

I noticed your addition of coordinates to the Norfolk Scope article. How do you go about getting those coordinates, and what does the nomenclature about scale, etc. have to do with the location? 842U (talk) 13:26, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi. I notice you've been using {{coor title dms}} to add title coordinates to articles. That, and a lot of other coordinate templates, are being replaced by {{coord}}. Also, if an infobox has a provision for including coordinates, it's better (IMHO) to use that rather than to have another template down at the bottom.
—WWoods (talk) 07:57, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Also, it's ordinarily unnecessary to specify the position of a large object down to the hundredth of a second. (Unless you're trying to target a cruise missile on a particular player.)
—WWoods (talk) 08:13, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Image source problem with Image:128px-Manly_Sea_Eagles_home_jersey_1976.svg.png[edit]

Thanks for uploading Image:128px-Manly_Sea_Eagles_home_jersey_1976.svg.png. I noticed that the file's description page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the copyright status is unclear.

If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. MER-C 09:23, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

Rugby League edits[edit]

Hi - it's great to see you adding to the rugby league stats. To help even more, would you mind:

  • popping in the reference you use for the playing stats in the infobox. If it is the Rugby League Project, for example, just add the link inside a square bracket like this:
source = [http://rugbyleagueproject.com/players/Alan_Thompson.html RLP]
followed by the RLP or NRL Stats, whatever the source.
  • remove the new = yes parameter from the infobox once you have added the stats
  • if you replace the old position links, you only need to use one {{rlp}}, like this: {{rlp|FB|HB|CE}} for multiple positions - makes for less typing!
  • for retired players, it isn't necessary to put in an "updated" date
Many thanks! Florrieleave a note 16:38, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

British drivers[edit]

If you investigate Clark and Stewart's Formula 1 results, plus drivers like Coulthard, Franchitti, John Cleland etc, Scotland is not treated as a national and all Scottish drivers are considered British. Long established wikipedia practice, you need to take this arguement up elsewhere. --Falcadore (talk) 20:51, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

List of GAA stadia[edit]

Thanks for adding the coords the List of GAA stadia , please note that sortible tables cant use row span as they team breaks when you sort it Gnevin (talk) 20:52, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Garth Tander[edit]

I would ask if possible, not to include individual race results into the career results tables, it could massively blow out the length of these tables, for example what of someone decided it was edit-worthy to add all of Peter Brock's Bathurst 1000, then someone else decides that the Sandown 500 was a significant part of his career, then the table is 50 lines longer. I believe that individual races should be refered to in the narrative rather than the table for this reason. --Falcadore (talk) 21:08, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

File copyright problem with File:Newcastle Entertainment Centre.jpg[edit]

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File copyright problem with File:Distinctive Homes Dome.jpg[edit]

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I think (hope?) I've fixed this one. Pdfpdf (talk) 10:18, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
Hmmm. Apparently not. (See below.)
You're going to have to fix this yourself. If you want/need my help, feel free to ask. Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 12:15, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

File copyright problem with File:Challenge Stadium.jpg[edit]

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File copyright problem with File:North Shore Events Centre.jpg[edit]

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File copyright problem with File:AIS Arena.jpg[edit]

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File source problem with File:Distinctive Homes Dome.jpg[edit]

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March 2009[edit]

Information.svg Welcome to Wikipedia. It might not have been your intention, but your recent edit removed maintenance templates from Distinctive Homes Dome. When removing maintenance templates, please be sure to either resolve the problem that the template refers to, or give a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry, as your removal of this template has been reverted. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia, and if you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. AussieLegend (talk) 08:16, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Painful pedants[edit]

As I said before, if you'd like my help, please feel free to ask. Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 10:32, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Hmmm.
Are you going to do anything useful to prevent those pictures from being deleted?
Regarding this edit, may I bother you to explain why you reverted "AUD$16m" back to "$16m AUD"?
Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 12:04, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

File:Distinctive Homes Dome.jpg[edit]

I really would prefer that this file was NOT deleted. If it is not in violation of copyright, then PLEASE add source details to the page - don't worry about templates and/or formats, if necessary, I'll sort that out, but I really do need that basic data from you if we are going to save this picture from deletion. Pdfpdf (talk) 09:00, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Disputed fair use rationale for File:Woodvillelogo.jpg[edit]

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Fixed Pdfpdf (talk) 16:23, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Disputed fair use rationale for File:Torrenslogo.jpg[edit]

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Fixed Pdfpdf (talk) 16:23, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Disputed fair use rationale for File:Norwood logo.jpg[edit]

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Fixed Pdfpdf (talk) 16:23, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Disputed fair use rationale for File:Port logo.jpg[edit]

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Fixed Pdfpdf (talk) 16:23, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Disputed fair use rationale for File:West logo.jpg[edit]

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Fixed Pdfpdf (talk) 16:23, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Your uploads[edit]

Good day. I see that you have uploaded a number of images to Wikipedia. First off, thank you for your contributions. Unfortunately, there are some guidelines that we need to follow with copyrighted images. Specifically, you need to add a source for the image (a link to a website will do), a copyright tag (there are some listed at WP:ICT), and a rationale explaining why we can use a copyrighted image (explained at WP:NFURG). I see that your images fail to include one of these. Please stop uploading images and address the concerns listed above. If you need assistance, you can ask at the help desk. If you do not fix these images, and you continue to make bad uploads, you will be blocked and your images will be deleted. Thanks for your contributions! STBotI (talk) 17:48, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Disputed fair use rationale for File:Eagles logo.jpg[edit]

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Fixed Pdfpdf (talk) 16:23, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Disputed fair use rationale for File:Northroosterslogo.jpg[edit]

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Fixed Pdfpdf (talk) 16:23, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

The Dome[edit]

Five metres into the ground. Wow, that's a big hole! (I wonder what they did with all that dirt?)
The reason I'm writing is that the info box says "The Powerhouse" is both a current nickname and a former name of the Dome. As you would know, (and I don't know), could you please decide which is the correct option and remove the other? Thanks. --Pdfpdf (talk) 23:22, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Currencies[edit]

Hi, I've noticed you've been going around and fixing up or adding infoboxes to sporting grounds and stadiums etc... and that's great. Just to let you know, though, that per the Wikipedia Manual of Style on Currencies, a currency value should be written as [[Australian dollar|AU$]]40m rather than [[Australian dollar|AUD]]$40m or any other combination. --timsdad (talk) 00:41, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Icons in infoboxes[edit]

Hi - before you get too carried away adding icons to infoboxes, we've just spent the last few months removing them in line with WP:MOSFLAGS. So if you could stop now, that'd be really helpful! Thanks,  florrie  08:35, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

I gather you don't feel like being helpful.  florrie  08:47, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for that. Cheers,  florrie  15:06, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Infobox source[edit]

Hi. Please see User_talk:SpecialWindler#Infobox_source.--Jeff79 (talk) 17:39, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Coord template[edit]

Hi, please do not keep removing the parameters to the {{coord}} template. The region, type and scale parameters are used to set up the geohack page and for passing on to external users of our data. Many thanks. Keith D (talk) 23:45, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Google Earth images[edit]

Hi HoldenV8, I'm fairly sure that screenshots from Google Earth are not public domain (as you have marked some of them). Just letting you know as you may need to adjust the copyright license tags on them. Regards -- Chuq (talk) 04:35, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for File:Prospect Oval.jpg[edit]

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Fair use rationale for File:Brisbane Exhibition Ground.jpg[edit]

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May 2009[edit]

Information.svg Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. Please don't forget to provide an edit summary, as you forgot on your recent edit to Hidden Valley Raceway. Thank you. Bidgee (talk) 05:24, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Oval pictures[edit]

Hey! Good stuff!! Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 14:21, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
However, you need to be more careful / dilligent regarding copyright issues. There's no point in uploading copyright images - you're just wasting everybody's time (including your own), and disappointing those (like me) who like the pictures. Best wishes, Pdfpdf (talk) 14:25, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

St Andrew's (stadium)[edit]

Hi. I've reverted your edits to St Andrew's (stadium). Some reasons are more important than others. Particularly, you removed the metric conversion from the pitch size: this is required by the Manual of Style, and removed the source citation from this item without explanation. You may be unaware, but there is a consensus that footy stadium infoboxes don't contain full postal address, even if correct, which the one you added to St Andrew's was not, but just the general location, including the country. And I'd advise you to stop marking edits as minor when they are no such thing (you can turn this marking off at My preferences/Editing/Mark all edits minor by default). cheers, Struway2 (talk) 08:09, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Hi there, just a related note so say that postcodes are not needed in an encyclopaedic article. Just a basic location (e.g. the city and neighbourhood) will suffice. Such things are not difficult to find. Please do not remove the – for a plain "-", use the first icon in the insert bar beneath the "Save page button". Wikipedia does have plenty of non-standard things in the raw code but this is not an indication that there is something wrong or it needs removing. It is there for a reason, and usually a good one. Cheers. Sillyfolkboy (talk) (edits) 14:32, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
Don't worry about it mate. Cheers! Sillyfolkboy (talk) (edits) 16:05, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for File:Woodville Oval.jpg[edit]

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Replaceable fair use Image:Melbourne_Ballpark.jpg[edit]

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Baseball Stadia[edit]

How do you know the measurements of the fields you've edited? JRA_WestyQld2 Talk 13:35, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

They're not perfect, but I'm impressed, they're pretty close. You play baseball in Queensland, or not? JRA_WestyQld2 Talk 11:01, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Football Park[edit]

Hi, again. Your recent edit on Football Park has again brought up some things I've tried to bring up, but you appear to refuse to discuss.

  • Consensus reached at this discussion and many other discussions has decided that the stadium articles shall be named as their non-sponsored names (Football Park, not AAMI Stadium). You did not move the page, but you changed the stadium name in the infobox to AAMI Stadium and added Football Park to the former names. Football Park is not its former name, it is its current, neutral name.
  • You have been told many times on this talk page that many of the edits you mark as minor are not indeed minor edits. See WP:MINOR.

Piping of links[edit]

  • You changed [[West Lakes, South Australia|West Lakes]], [[South Australia|SA]] to [[West Lakes, South Australia]]. The former is preferred as a reader can visit the article on South Australia when they click on the 'South Australia' part, rather than the whole link being to West Lakes.
  • You also changed [[Australian dollar|AU$]] to [[AU$]]. This isn't a big problem, but there is something we call "avoiding redirects" which means piping links (see WP:PIPE) so that when the link is clicked, one will not be redirected to another page.

Thanks, and please reply here or on my talk page. --timsdad (talk) 09:20, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Ballparks[edit]

You're making a lot of changes to ballpark articles, with no discussion, and for no obvious reason. You need to bring this to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Baseball before you do any more of this work. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 08:16, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Cleaning up under what guidelines? For example, why are you rounding metric figures up to the nearest whole meter? Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 08:23, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
You should also go to User:Blackngold29's page and address his concerns. Also, after 3 years here you should know to sign your posts with 4 tildes. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 08:27, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
You said you would start adding 4 tildes, and didn't even do it in that very comment. What's up with that? Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 08:38, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, that change was actually done before I said about the tidles. Won't happen again.

Except it just did. Do you actually know what a tilde is? Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 08:45, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
I'm not talking about the edit summaries, I'm talking about comments on talk pages. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 09:19, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
You get the point, except you're refusing to do it. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 13:59, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

"I'm not refusing to do anything." - Whether you're agreeing (or not) is not the point. The point is, you are NOT doing it. Pdfpdf (talk) 15:03, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Which is ill-mannered on his part, but is also a distraction from the main point, that he is making changes to a bunch of articles without talking to anyone about it, and has started to get reverted for it. Whether that reversion continues will depend on when (or if) anyone at the project page takes notice of it. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 15:07, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Finally you did so, on the last post. Thank you! Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 15:12, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Marking edits as minor[edit]

You've been warned many times already. Do not mark edits such as this minor. From WP:MINOR:

A check to the minor edit box signifies that only superficial differences exist between the current and previous version: type corrections, formatting and presentational changes, rearranging of text without modifying content, et cetera. A minor edit is one that the editor believes requires no review and could never be the subject of a dispute. An edit of this kind is marked in its page's revision history with a lower case, bolded "m" character (m).

By contrast, a major edit is one that should be reviewed for its acceptability to all concerned editors. Therefore, any change that affects the meaning of an article is not minor, even if the edit concerns a single word; for example, the addition or removal of "not", which can vastly change the meaning of a sentence, paragraph, section or article, is a major edit.

The distinction between major and minor edits is significant because editors may choose to ignore minor edits when reviewing recent changes; logged-in users might even set their preferences to not display them. If there is any chance that another editor might dispute a change, it is best to not mark the edit as minor.

Users who are not logged into Wikipedia are not permitted to mark changes as minor because of the potential for vandalism. The ability to mark changes as minor is one of many reasons to register.

A good rule of thumb is that edits consisting solely of spelling corrections, formatting changes, or rearranging of text without modifying content should be flagged as a 'minor edit.'

This is your last warning. —EncMstr (talk) 15:32, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

B24 Succession box[edit]

With only two races in its history - a succession box for the Bathurst 24 hour is surely pointless? --Falcadore (talk) 23:24, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

I am not suggesting that the accomplishment be ignored. With just two occurances there will never be on occasion where the succession box is completely filled. The purpose of these succession boxes is to track long running histories of events. Two years is not long running. Neither is five years. Even ten would be questionable.
It is an achievement certainly deserving highlighting, but certainly not a succession box. There is a fault within wikipedia's editting policy to try an put tables and statistics instead of prose text, because it is easier to defend in a challenge, less deniable, whatever. This is a trend we must fight. We should not be afraid to write events out in sentences. --Falcadore (talk) 20:59, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
Again I ask about the pointlessness of a two event succession box, as you did not really justify it the first time around. The effort expended by the crews concerned does not magically created more races. You might as well add a succession box for the Calder 500 WTCC race. There was only one of them, but it was such a strenous race... please, I ask that the achievemnt be highlighted in text form, rather than a succession box that does not actually lead anywhere. --Falcadore (talk) 07:18, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

A9X Toranas[edit]

I'd be a bit wary about changing the descriptions of A9X Toranas. User:GTHO, who has put a lot of work into correcting model names of Australian cars has asserted previously that the A9X's had specific models names, SS5000 for the Hatchback, and SLR, maintaining the link to the previous LH Torana for the four door. --Falcadore (talk) 20:39, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

The Holden Torana page states that "This was the 'A9X Option' that became available on the four door SL/R 5000 and two-door SS hatchback in 5.0 litre V8 form". I believe that to be correct. I'll check through my issues of "Australian Muscle Car" and provide more on this soon. --GTHO (talk) 00:37, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
"Australia Muscle Car" Issue 35, page 52 states: "Model 8VD96 (Torana SL/R sedan) and 8VD77 (Torana SS hatchback) were the starting vehicles for the A9X". The same page has a reproduction of "GM Parts & Accessories News" No 444 of 31 August 1977 which reads "Distributors and Dealers are advised that a Performance Equipment Package is to be released under Option A9X on "SLR 5000" Sedans & "SS" 5 Litre Hatchback". --GTHO (talk) 01:38, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
Is there a reason why you are still changing entries for the A9X Sedan from SLR 5000 A9X Sedan to SS A9X Sedan? GTHO (talk) 03:29, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Kangaroos jersey image[edit]

Please stop adding the kangaroos jersey image to players' articles. They're all going to be removed again.--Jeff79 (talk) 17:13, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Malcolm Rea[edit]

Rea's first Carina in 1993 was a T170. --Falcadore (talk) 11:59, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Also, VN SS Group A's were VN SS Group A SV. The SV title was added to both Walinshaw produced SS Group As. --Falcadore (talk) 12:02, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

And the Lansvale VL in 1989 was a carburetted VL, not the injected SV version - did you check any of these or just make assumptions? --Falcadore (talk) 12:06, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Bathurst 24 Hour[edit]

It is the prefered form for Sports and GT races to leave all cars/links connected, refer 2003 24 Hours of Le Mans for an example of how the Sports/GT results sheets are handled. --Falcadore (talk) 05:01, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

It's worth looking at the Repeated links section in Wikipedia Help which states that tables are an exception to the rule on avoiding repeated links and that “each row should be able to stand on its own”. In other words repeated links should not be removed from any table. GTHO (talk) 03:37, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Waggott TC4V[edit]

The four cylinder Waggott engine was based on a Ford motor (Cortina/Kent if memory serves without looking up - but do not take that as gospell - confirm), the same engine which also become the Cosworth FVA. --Falcadore (talk) 22:10, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Similarly Repco worked on many different engines, not just the GM-based F1 engine and the Holden V8 based F5000 engine (which did not go into regular production until 1969 so how Matich could put it into his SR3 in 1968 would have been interesting). For example Repco also worked on the Maybach engine which powered the Maybach specials in the 1950s. Like Merv Waggott's smaller operation they were engine tuners rather than constructors. --Falcadore (talk) 03:28, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
I think you need to re-read the Waggott website because it says nothing like what you've just told me. The four cylinder engine simply could not be based on the Holden grey motor for the simple reason that the Holden grey motor is a six cylinder engine. The website descibes two completely different engines, the Waggott TC and the Waggott TC4V. It says on multiple occassions the TC is Holden based, and the photos clearly show it to be a six cylinder engine. It does not say anywhere the four cylinder engine, the TC4V is Holden based (to quote - 1968 New complete 2000cc TC4V race motor all designed and manufactured “in house”. No mention of Holden anyway). And just to cap it, is there any such thing as a four cylinder Holden engine? Before the Starfire 4 (which isn't a Holden motor to begin with) there simply wasn't a four cylinder product until... I'm not sure when but surely the 1970's? So how could they have magically created a four cylinder Holden engine?
Please get your facts straight. --Falcadore (talk) 11:03, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Allan Moffat's Ford Boss 302 Mustang[edit]

Please don’t replace “Ford Boss 302 Mustang” entries for Allan Moffat with “Ford Mustang Tans Am” as there is really no such thing as a “Ford Mustang Trans Am”. The Moffat car was originally built up as a Ford Boss 302 Mustang to race in the 1969 Trans Am Series but was subsequently modified to CAMS Group C Improved Production Touring Car regulations to allow it to compete, as a Ford Boss 302 Mustang, in Australian Touring Car races. And it actually raced here with “Boss 302” stickers on its flanks. GTHO (talk) 03:26, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Similarly the 'Super' Falcon nonsense. Why don't we start calling HDT Commdores 'Brock-mobiles' then? Or maybe Dick Johnson's XD could be relabeled 'Rock Car'. Or the Lowndes 00 Falcon could be the Green Eyed Monster. --Falcadore (talk) 03:50, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Bathurst 1000[edit]

Wikipedia:Linking#Repeated links. You don't have to delete all the links in the tables. While in the V8 Supercar article with only Falcons and Commodores it doesn't matter so much, but when there are a lot of different cars deleting all bar one of the links can make difficult to find the one link. --Falcadore (talk) 13:26, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

1985 Challenge Cup final[edit]

Not sure why you changed the attendance figure for the above match in 1984-85 Rugby Football League season. The BBC source states it was 97k.--Jeff79 (talk) 11:57, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

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Lap records[edit]

I don't know where you are getting some of this from but the Port Wakefield lap record was completely wrong. What else were you unsure of? --Falcadore (talk) 15:17, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Fastest lap at the 1955 AGP was a 63.1. The circuit was open for another six years afterwards and lap times dropped below 60 seconds. A 49 second lap time is purely in the realms of fantasy. --Falcadore (talk) 15:38, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
The reference I used to write the article originally stated the '55 grand Prix fastest lap time was a 1:03.1, and another book I have states the lap time dropped below a minute without stating how far and who did it. I can do some additional digging but right at the second I have a few other things going. What you put up was wrong, I'm not going to leave it there pending better data. --Falcadore (talk) 01:22, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
And yes you did write a 49 second lap - see here. --Falcadore (talk) 01:47, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
Lap record doesn't mean 'fastest lap you know of', if you don't have a source stating that it was the lap record, don't add it. --Falcadore (talk) 01:49, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
I have found a source stating that Bib Stillwell record a 56.0 at the 1960 Gold Star round, but I have no way of knowing that it became the final lap record. --Falcadore (talk) 05:57, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Tony Longhurst Racing[edit]

Nice work on all the additional material, but the team did win an actual championship, you might want to add that. --Falcadore (talk) 05:26, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Delinking results tables[edit]

Why are you delinking the Bathurst results tables? Please stop doing this. GTHO (talk) 03:30, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Indeed, it has been indicated before that in tables you do not remove links. Correct link to more accurate locations by all means but do not remove links. --Falcadore (talk) 07:20, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
I may be out of order re this. My plea to stop the deletion of repeated links in results tables was based on the relevant Help page as I had last seen it, i.e. when it specified that tables were an exception to the "repeated links" rule. The exception wording has since been changed from “tables” to “long sortable tables”, which suggests to me that multiple links in non-sortable tables may no longer be condoned. Please see [2]. What do we think? GTHO (talk) 03:29, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
Any table longer than about twenty lines should not be delinked, particular old school Bathursts as if, for example, the car you are looking at is not linked, then you have to search through the other entries to find it. In a long entry with wide variety that could take a while. Don't want to make it too difficult for casual browsers to use. Look at the Le Mans 24 Hour races by way of example, everything is linked. --Falcadore (talk) 04:11, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Easternats[edit]

For your information: [3]

The riots were actually quite well publicised. The event at Winton carried a different name. Easternats are for all practical purposes, dicontinued. --Falcadore (talk) 23:25, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Formula One car infobox updates[edit]

Hey, many thanks for putting some time into the car articles lately. It would be a good idea if you could be a bit careful about some of your edits though, please. In a number of cases you are actually making the infobox worse, not better. For example, the recent changes you made to the Renault RE40 article included switching a pipe for carbon fiber-reinforced polymer to simply carbon fiber and V6 engine to V6, and you removed all the punctuation. F1 cars aren't made of carbon fiber; that is quite floppy, fragile stuff. The material commonly referred to in that context as "carbon fiber" is actually the composite. Links should be precise. It is also conceivable that there will one day be a V6 disambiguation page. I know it redirects at the moment to the right place but it may not always be so, so removing precise pipes is going to effort that may just need repeating (probably by someone who isn't you) down the road. I appreciate that you are trying to improve things, and thank you for that, but with just a little more attention to detail it would save someone having to go round after you and clean up. Pyrope 04:58, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

"Updating" engine and chassis info[edit]

Hey, just another comment on your recent edits. You say you are "updating" the chassis info in the results tables, except you aren't. You are introducing information that is implicit (the page is about car X so we don't need to be told that the results refer to car X, unless the page also covers variants XA and XB) and removing information on the car's entrant! Please stop. Feel free to add the engine name to the engine field, but removing the car's entrant field is not at all helpful. Pyrope 15:24, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

F1 car articles[edit]

Hi HoldenV8. Thanks for the work you have been doing on F1 car articles. A couple of minor points to note though:

  • In the results tables, the "WCC" and "points" columns should only be shaded for 1st, 2nd and 3rd position in the championship
  • the WP:F1 standard abbreviation for "turbocharged" is "t/c" not "tc" (and likewise "s/c" for "supercharged")
  • we usually don't add "NA" to identify naturally aspirated engines in the results table, on the basis that this is the "default" engine type
  • engine links should not include the engine designation unless the linked article/section specifically covers that engine, e.g. [[Judd_(engine)#EV|Judd EV]] is OK, but [[Scuderia Ferrari|Ferrari Tipo 036]] should be written as [[Scuderia Ferrari|Ferrari]] Tipo 036, since the Scuderia Ferrari article does not explicitly mention the Tipo 036 engine.
  • the "pole position" note is not included above the table if the car didn't score any pole positions (and likewise for fastest laps)

But apart from that, keep up the great work! DH85868993 (talk) 16:19, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

No worries to all that, it helps to get constructive criticism rather than outright criticism from time to timeHoldenV8 (talk) 17:32, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

No problem. One more item I forgot above - when creating new infoboxes, it's preferable to use {{Infobox racing car}} rather than the redirect {{Racing car}}. I don't think it's worth going back and changing the ones you have already created (unless you're editing the article for another reason anyway) but it's preferable not to use the redirect for new ones. Regards. DH85868993 (talk) 02:52, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

I would like to echo DH's thanks, and add a proviso of my own: WP:F1 articles are conventionally written in British English, so you should use "carbon fibre" instead of "carbon fiber" when describing the monocoque construction. Don't worry, as it's not of any significance overall.--Midgrid(talk) 20:21, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Another minor point: in the car results tables, the race abbreviations should not be in bold (see the WP:F1 example table), so please start those lines with a "|", not a "!". Thanks. DH85868993 (talk) 02:51, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
And another... sorry! We generally try to keep the number of flags in articles to a minimum, so in those articles that are not specifically about the drivers (such as the cars) the driver nationalities are only flagged once (in the infobox). As far as the results table goes, the drivers are just another component in the combination so are treated as such: surnames only and no flags. Check out the recent (last couple of years) cars for the format that has evolved. I know that there are a few older articles (heck, I created a few myself!) that don't conform to this, but we are trying slowly to standadise things. Bye for now. Pyrope 16:10, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Australian Motorsport articles[edit]

I invite your comment and participation at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Australian motorsport#Australian motorsport articles have been selected for the Wikipedia 0.8 release please? Thank you for your consideration. --Falcadore (talk) 23:15, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Recent 1980s Bathurst 1000 edits[edit]

You did notice the column you've been chaning is listed as Team, not Entry. Entry reflects whatever is on the entry form and can take the form of a myriad different sponsored identities from year to year. Team is focussed on connecting a link to the correct article with regards to a motor racing team. For example, for a couple of years in the late 80s, Andrew Miedecke and Andrew Bagnall had different entries, but their Ford Sierras were run out of the same team, along with briefly Kevin Waldock, run by one of the Stone brothers prior to the Stone in question (can't remember which) joined Dick Johnson Racing. --Falcadore (talk) 23:02, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

And you shouldn't link to disambiguation pages like John Goss. --Falcadore (talk) 23:08, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

JPS Team BMW[edit]

You know they went through a few iterations of the 3 Series. They started with the 323i. 325i that came later might have been a six cylinder, have to look it up but the 323i and 325i had completely different engine configurations. --Falcadore (talk) 06:54, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Volvo in the ATCC[edit]

The Volvo team wasn't re-vamped between 1985 & 1986, they were completely different teams. 1985 was a largely privately funded New Zealand team run by businessman Mark Petch. 1986 was a factory racing team run by noted competition preparer George Sheppard mostly bankrolled by the Australian distributor. --Falcadore (talk) 13:39, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Holden VN Commodore SS Group A SV[edit]

Re the SV tag on the Holden VN Commodore SS Group A SV, you may like to check out the Holden VN Commodore SS Group A SV entry on the HSV Classics page. GTHO (talk) 06:51, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

It appears that HSV themselves disagree with you. Have a read of the very first sentence. Personally, I'm going with them. They built it. --Falcadore (talk) 07:09, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Holden VL Commodore SS Group A SV‎[edit]

This article is one of a group targetted for merger/deletion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Automobiles#Mass article merger. Rather than expand the VL SV, a better approach would be to convert to article into one about all four Group A edition Commodores. --Falcadore (talk) 15:34, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

Apostrophes[edit]

Hi HoldenV8. A minor note on punctuation: it's not necessary to use an apostrophe when making a plural, i.e. the plural of "Ferrari" is "Ferraris", not "Ferrari's". Regards. DH85868993 (talk) 02:45, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

F1 constructor and engine links[edit]

Hi HoldenV8. FYI, it's WP:F1 convention to link all occurrences of constructor and engine names in qualifying and race result tables, not just the first occurrence. Also, engine names should be linked to the engine manufacturer article, not subsections thereof, e.g. "Judd" should be linked to Judd (engine) not Judd (engine)#CV. If you disagree with these conventions, feel free to raise the matter for discussion at WP:F1, but in the meantime, please abide by the existing conventions. Thanks. DH85868993 (talk) 14:39, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. It's mainly about having consistency across the project. DH85868993 (talk) 14:51, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
I have reverted your edit to 1988 Mexican Grand Prix, because it delinked repeated constructors and engines in the race results table and failed to follow the WP:F1 naming convention for Ford engines, as detailed at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Formula_One/Conventions#Engines. I appreciate your efforts adding in the qualifying tables, but not at the expense of corrupting the existing content. DH85868993 (talk) 07:38, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
I've restored your edit, with the links corrected. BTW, if you're planning on adding any more qualifying tables, one point to note is that the table should be located in the "Classification" section of the article - see 1988 Monaco Grand Prix as an example. Regards. DH85868993 (talk) 10:58, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

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Flag Icons[edit]

FYI - GER is not the three letter code for West Germany. Try FRG. --Falcadore (talk) 14:02, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

Again - Germany did not exist prior to 1991 - West Germany should be used. --Falcadore (talk) 02:56, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
Mate, I wouldn't assume malice, apologies if it was taken the wrong way. --Falcadore (talk) 11:21, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

Enduro Top threes[edit]

Why have these been added out of curiosituy? Seems out of place. --Falcadore (talk) 14:21, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

Those that were already in place do not have accompanying articles and contained entrie results known. You may note that some of those have top six results or top eight, or full fields. As originially written it contained either full known results, or a link to the article which held them if that article existed. --Falcadore (talk) 14:55, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

Lights & Norwood Oval[edit]

Sorry, but I'm a bit puzzled.
Regarding the paragraph:

Night football returned to Norwood Oval during the early 2000s and Friday night games at the oval (all featuring The Redlegs) have been a regular feature in the SANFL ever since. With the popularity of the Friday night games, other clubs have started installing lights at their grounds with Elizabeth Oval (Centrals), Richmond Oval (West Adelaide) and Noarlunga Oval (South Adelaide) all having installed lights while Woodville-West Torrens are upgrading the lights at Thebarton Oval in a bid to play SANFL night games at the venue for the first time since the mid-1980s.

I have no problem with this bit:

Night football returned to Norwood Oval during the early 2000s and Friday night games at the oval (all featuring The Redlegs) have been a regular feature in the SANFL ever since. With the popularity of the Friday night games, other clubs have started installing lights at their grounds.

But please tell me, what has:

with Elizabeth Oval (Centrals), Richmond Oval (West Adelaide) and Noarlunga Oval (South Adelaide) all having installed lights while Woodville-West Torrens are upgrading the lights at Thebarton Oval in a bid to play SANFL night games at the venue for the first time since the mid-1980s.

got to do with an article about Norwood Oval?
(i.e. If you don't explain why it's relevant, I'm going to remove it.) Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 17:18, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

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Editing suggestions[edit]

Hi HoldenV8. Thanks for the race summaries you have been adding to the Formula One race report articles. A couple of points to note:

  • pages like Italian, Australian, etc are usually disambiguation pages, and should not be linked to. To describe a driver's nationality, link to the article about the country instead, e.g. describe them as [[Italy|Italian]], [[Australia]]n, etc
  • it's best to avoid words like "sadly", "tragically", "unfortunately", etc as these are considered "editorialising" - see WP:EDITORIAL for more information

But apart from that, keep up the good work. Regards. DH85868993 (talk) 10:37, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

Also, V12 is a redirect to a disambiguation page, so to refer to the engine configuration, you need to write [[V12 engine|V12]]. And even though V6, V8 and V10 redirect to V6 engine, V8 engine and V10 engine respectively, it's probably a good idea to always write [[V6 engine|V6]], [[V8 engine|V8]] and [[V10 engine|V10]] anyway, in case the redirects change in the future. DH85868993 (talk) 11:21, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

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"F1 car" infobox parameter[edit]

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To clarify, you need to be careful not to remove the parameter for pre-1984 cars, but you also shouldn't give it a value for post-1983 cars, as you did here (It's unnecessary for post-1983 cars, because there haven't been any non-championship races since 1983). Regards. DH85868993 (talk) 02:36, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
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Everard Bartlett[edit]

Even though is says previous clubs, you still put Adelaide 36ers in there to keep track of it. That's why you put "-present". The same with Hawke's Bay Hawks. DaHuzyBru (talk) 06:02, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Stop messing around with Bartlett's page. Check your sources first. Bartlett is in the Bay Hawks roster for 2012. Check it out. DaHuzyBru (talk) 04:24, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
Yeah I have left the 36ers out of his previous teams. Cheers. DaHuzyBru (talk) 10:59, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

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Bond has said while he was offerred a stint in car #1, he stayed in car #2 out of loyalty to Alan Hamilton. --Falcadore (talk) 10:59, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

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Editing notes[edit]

Hi HoldenV8. A couple of minor editing notes:

  • "bar" (as in turbo pressure) should be written with a lower case 'b'
  • per WP:CONTRACTION, please write "did not" instead of "didn't"; "was not" instead of "wasn't", etc
  • plurals don't require an apostrophe, i.e. it's one Ferrari, two Ferraris, not two Ferrari's
  • please don't make links to disambiguation pages such as Brazilian, French, etc. When referring to a driver's nationality, link to the country, with the nationality as a suffix or pipe, e.g. [[Brazil]]ian, [[France|French]], etc

But apart from that, keep up the good work. DH85868993 (talk) 02:29, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

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Use of the Infobox NBL Player[edit]

Hello HoldenV8 - I have noticed that you are a very active Australian Wikipedia editor. I wanted to bounce something off of you and see if you knew of other active NBL editors who also might weigh in. I am interested in converting players in the Template:Infobox NBL player over to the broader Template:Infobox basketball biography. In my opinion, this would make converting players who move across leagues much easier as the NBL is the only league who has its own infobox separate from the Basketball biography or NBA biography (which is actually just a redirect) boxes. I started a conversation about this over at WikiProject NBA. I want to check in with a few active NBL editors to make sure there are no issues with doing this. One issue I could foresee is that the "junior association" field would be lost. Heights and weights are also metric first on the NBL box, but that is also true of Europe so I don't think that is a show stopper. What are your thoughts? We may be able to code the box with NBL team colors as is the case in the NBA and Euroleague - I think that would be a nice enhancement. Rikster2 (talk) 13:39, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the response. Actually, the NBA doesn't have it's own infobox - it was converted over awhile back. I'm not sure how team colors, but I know the Euroleague boxes were just coded to do it this year so it is definitely possible - I think doing this for the NBL would be a nice touch if possible. I'll ask around. Have a good day! Rikster2 (talk) 13:46, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

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I think somewhere you have been mis-informed. Con-Rod Straight (original spelling) is not and has never been two kilometres long. It was 1.6 km long prior to the Chase' construction. Caltex Chase was not installed to comply with FIA edict on lengths of straights. The calendar for the 1987 WTCC was announced in July 1986, well before 1986 Bathurst was held. The circuit was inspected and approved prior the 1986 Bathurst taking place. Burgmann himself, as an office bearer of the Australian Racing Drivers Club was a party to the negotiations. --Falcadore (talk) 07:12, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

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The ANBL distinguishes the Australian/Australasian NBL from the New Zealand NBL when it crosses over between players who have played in both i.e. B. J. Anthony or other Breakers players such as Abercrombie, Pledger etc. DaHuzyBru (talk) 05:12, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

Right, well if you can't see the logic behind it then I'm not going to argue with you. Go right ahead and remove the 'A' from ANBL everywhere. DaHuzyBru (talk) 05:28, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

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Please cite your sources. Failure to do so just creates work for other editors. --Michig (talk) 12:41, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

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  • The speedway needs a separate article
  • Quotes of blocks of text like that are not BOLD as it looks like WP:SHOUTING

look at WP:MOS re quotes

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Hi, in case you're not already aware of it, a group of Adelaide Wikipedians has been meeting on a monthly basis since April, with the aim of improving the scope and quality of articles on South Australian topics. We meet at UniSA's City West campus, and our 23 July meeting will have a guest speaker from the National Trust of SA.

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Old Trafford[edit]

Thanks for the info you added to the Old Trafford article about Brett Morris' accident during the 2013 RLWCF. That info could do with a source, however, and I wouldn't have the first clue where to look, not being a rugby league fan myself. If you could add the necessary sources today, that would be best. – PeeJay 21:55, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

Unless the safety concerns are specifically addressed in the video, that's not really a valid source, but thanks for adding the other one. – PeeJay 22:40, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
We don't need a video of the accident, we need a published source that quotes someone talking about how the Old Trafford pitch directly contributed to Morris' accident. The ABC source you added is probably about as good as we're going to get, but I'd rather have something from after the game. I've removed the statement about Old Trafford continuing to be used since you couldn't provide a source for that, and also because it's reasonable to assume that, until anyone says otherwise, Old Trafford was going to be used in the future anyway. – PeeJay 10:04, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

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