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Adamson[edit]

Hiya, this source says Adamson is eliminated. And without getting too deep into it, I dont see any path they have into the final four. TheCoffee (talk) 10:42, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

I saw an Inquirer report of the same event saying they are "on the brink of elimination" so unless someone else doesn't outright claim that they are eliminated they should be denoted as still in contention.
In either case, the fourth placed team has 6 wins. Adamson has 4 wins, and has 2 games left. The UAAP always has a playoff for #4 if teams are tied on that spot. –HTD 13:31, 1 September 2013 (UTC)


Hi, Adamson cannot tie the #4 seed anymore. While its true that they can still get 6 wins, they still won't be able to make the Final Four. Both Ateneo and UST have 6 wins already, meaning the lowest win total of either team would be 7 wins since since they will still face each other. This means that Adamson IS eliminated from Final Four contention since they won't be able to get 7 wins anymore. Thanks von (talk) 12:45, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

We should only be shading Adamson after they lose, or if they keep on winning, after the Ateneo vs. UST game. –HTD 16:58, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
Good point. It is, however, misleading since people who are not informed would think that Adamson still has a legit chance of making the Final Four when in fact they don't. (talk) 17:28, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
The only time that they have 0% chance is not now, but when it happens. –HTD 09:30, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

Tagalog help needed[edit]

Hello Howard the Duck (great movie btw), I'm contacting you because we need some Tagalog translators to help with the deployment of the new VisualEditor on tl.wikipedia. There are help pages, user guides, and description pages that need translating, as well as the interface itself. The translating work is going on over on MediaWiki: Translation Central. I also need help with a personal message for the Tagalog Wikipedians. If you are able to help in any way, either reply here, or head over to TranslationCentral. Thanks for your time, PEarley (WMF) (talk) 17:29, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

There are 2 schools of thought currently in translating into Tagalog when using computer/technological jargon:
  1. Use pure Tagalog. However, this may look too formal or even silly for an ordinary man on the street. I knew people who LOL upon seeing Facebook's Tagalog translations.
  2. Use Taglish. The ordinary man on the street is comfortable reading/writing in this setup, but is generally frowned upon in formal writing.
For example, the word "stub" in Tagalog is "usbong". The thing is, until I saw it on the Tagalog Wikipedia, I dunno "stub" translates into "Tagalog"; an ordinary Tagalog speaker may have an idea that "stub" means something tiny. –HTD 12:39, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
Hey Howard, I'm talking to User:Sky Harbor about the same thing. We have a request here for a Taglish interface version - if that's the way tl.wiki regulars think is best, that's the way we should go. I'll speak to the developers about some options - i.e. having two interfaces (Taglish and formal Tagalog) and letting the user decide which (although one will have to be presented as the default, and the other as a preference option, I believe). PEarley (WMF) (talk) 20:55, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
Thanks. Though honestly, any Tagalog speaker (say 90%+) who accesses the internet wouldn't need Tagalog translations. Any Tagalog words outside bulletin boards or Tagalog-specific websites such as the Tagalog Wikipedia, or generally in places where you wouldn't expect it, would come out as "lulz". –HTD 08:38, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

September 2013[edit]

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Nomination for deletion of Template:PH Supreme Court case[edit]

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Bracket template help[edit]

Hi. I would like to ask for help in making a template for the UAAP Season 76 men's and women's badminton playoffs. The playoffs followed the stepladder format with a knockout tie for the #2 seed.

Thank you.Aeron Valderrama (talk) 15:46, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

Use the bracket found at UAAP Season 70 men's basketball tournament#Bracket. Leave the #4 seed playoff parameters blank. –HTD 15:52, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
Can we have something in such a way that the no. 4 playoff will not be shown completely? Thank you. Aeron Valderrama (talk) 11:22, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
I've made all 2nd/4th seed playoff games optional. I haven't debugged yet but you can test it out. –HTD 14:06, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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A barnstar for you![edit]

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Islamic/Moro insurgency[edit]

Hi HTD, I've carried out the move of Islamic insurgency in the Philippines to Moro insurgency in the Philippines as you requested, but cleaning up the article itself after the move is going to take more than just replacing instances of "Islamic" with "Moro" (indeed, that's not even feasible). I don't really know anything about the subject. Can you take care of this? Thanks, BDD (talk) 17:32, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

I'd recommend leaving "Islamic" alone when it is Islamic. What it needs is something about the Moro insurgency that is not Islamic. –HTD 09:45, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

WikiProject volleyball - invitation to discussion[edit]

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Opting in to VisualEditor[edit]

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Yes I've already enabled this weeks ago when TPTB removed the Visual Editor edit link. –HTD 03:59, 12 October 2013 (UTC)

October 2013[edit]

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Bob Ong[edit]

Hi Howard the Duck. After participating in that AfD regarding Ong's book, I was wondering if you or any one at WT:TAMBAY could improve the article on Bob Ong and increase its size five-fold so that it could be up for a DYK hook. Anonymity for authors of his popularity is fairly uncommon and indeed unusual, especially when one of his books is about to be adapted into a film, so it could probably make a good hook. Is that a good idea? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:26, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

Not interested. –HTD 03:14, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

Request review at WP:AFC[edit]

Hello Howard! Can I request if you can review my football match article between Loyola Meralco Sparks and Blue Guards because of their huge scoreline 33-0 in the 2013 UFL Cup? I just wanna know if this is notable or met the guidelines in writing an article like this. Thanks! FairyTailRocks (talk) 06:33, 16 November 2013 (UTC)

I'm passing that, but this is not exactly rare; San Beda defeated Letran 100-0 in high school football recently. –HTD 08:47, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
Wow! That's a massacre! But then, thank you for the suggestion in improving the article. Thanks! FairyTailRocks (talk) 11:19, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
Hey Howard! I've just updated the article, will this work? FairyTailRocks (talk) 15:17, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
It's all well and good, but the article has to demonstrate that there's "outside routine coverage" of the game as per WP:SPORTSEVENT. Even with a match report, it fails to do that. –HTD 15:23, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
What do you mean by that? Are there examples of articles to show "outside routine coverage"? Sorry mate, I've just recently joined here and being inactive for almost three months, but I have updated some of it and added new references for Blue Guards. FairyTailRocks (talk) 01:09, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
I believe WP:ROUTINE has the answers: "Routine events such as sports matches, film premieres, press conferences etc. may be better covered as part of another article, if at all."
TBH, as suggested by WP:ROUTINE and as I said in the AFC, I'd also suggest you just change the focus to an article about Blue Guards F.C. as that can more easily pass WP:N requirements. Or even prose in the 2013 UFL Cup article that barely has any. Or both. –HTD 07:27, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
Okay, maybe I didn't understand well the definition of WP:ROUTINE, and it kinda makes sense about it. I will deconstruct some sections of the article, and rename other parts of it. I don't know if I can finish this because of school, but nevertheless thanks for clearing things up. FairyTailRocks (talk) 09:35, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
Hey Howard! Just finished the article and transformed it into Blue Guards, can this be notable? FairyTailRocks (talk) 12:27, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Knockout game listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]

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November 2013[edit]

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Talk:Honduran general election, 2013[edit]

Your thoughts on a compromise version of the results table would be welcome. Cheers, Number 57 21:22, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

Lakas-CMD[edit]

Lakas–CMD (1991) is not a "nonexistent page." If there is a problem with the template, why not fix it, instead of reverting to a version that takes readers to the wrong page? --R'n'B (call me Russ) 14:51, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

You probably haven't seen the templates, haven't you? –HTD 14:55, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
That really wasn't so hard to fix. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 14:59, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
There's no problem that needed fixing in the first place anyway until yesterday... –HTD 15:02, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

December 2013[edit]

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Rosell Ellis[edit]

Would you mind taking a look at this article and filling in any missing PBA tenures in the infobox if you can? Thank you. Rikster2 (talk) 15:54, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

I've used Special:WhatLinksHere but the problem now is he has more 20 teams he played for and they won't fit. –HTD 12:01, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

/* Moved to Santiago, Philippines */[edit]

Wkjt14 (talk) 16:50, 28 December 2013 (UTC) Sir, please support me with the move I made on the article of Santiago City. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Santiago,_Philippines I moved it from Santiago, Isabela -> Santiago, Philippines. Some users here won't agree with my argument that Santiago, being an independent component city, is not part of Isabela anymore. thank you so much. :)

Hello, there's a discussion at WT:PINOY on how to deal with these things. I suggest to defer specific discussions until we've agreed on something already generally. –HTD 08:17, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
PS: It seems that there's no WP:RM, but the new location seems to be a better (but not the best) option than the original. If you're good with this and no one opposes it can stay there for the mean time. –HTD 12:03, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

Flag debate[edit]

I think you've misunderstood what the debate was about - it's not about flag on the top of {{Infobox election}}, but instead about their use on templates like {{Philippine elections}}. Cheers, Number 57 20:33, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

More reason to ditch, I say. –HTD 02:31, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

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Making stuff up[edit]

Thanks for the laughs, I've inaugurated a "I make stuff up" award in your honour. Glad you approach Wikipedia with such a sense of humour, keep up the good work! The Rambling Man (talk) 20:52, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Give me the template so I give it you with your laughable "400 million people watch the boat race" "fact". –HTD 22:24, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

GA Review for Global F.C.[edit]

Hey Howard! Since you're a Filipino who knows alot of Philippine sports. Can you review the second nomination of Global F.C. for GA? The first reviewer doesn't much know about this club, plus it will awesome if a Filipino football club can be good article. The second GAN will up soon after the copyediting by an another user. If you want I could do something in return. Cheers! FairyTailRocks 13:19, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

I'll pass. –HTD 16:51, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

Template:Bs cl2 team[edit]

There's a way to do this. I'll try to do this if I have the time. –HTD 08:42, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

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ITN/R[edit]

I assume you want NCAA basketball added to ITN/R. As such, I am going to point out it is in our best interest to have Boat Race listed as it kills the main argument of "no amateur sport". I will also add that I am unimpressed 57's close. First, it wasn't "equal numbers" it was 8.5 + you to 6. Second, the arguments of the opposers were thoroughly refuted. Third, several of the opposers are non-regulars who showed up specifically because they were upset at seeing it on the mainpage (those happy to see it were much less likely to be spurred into action). Later in the year, I will renominate it after more cultural based changes to ITN/R go through and expect it to pass easily then. It truely was hurt by the poor timing of the nomination. --ThaddeusB (talk) 13:26, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

I'm didn't even mention the NCAA nomination. I didn't bring that up when I questioned the close on the Boat Race. I'm questioning if the level of consensus was enough. ITNR's mandate was that consensus should be high enough that it would breeze through a normal ITN/C nomination. The NCAA tournament won't cut that. The Boat Race didn't cut. Several items in the list won't cut. That's why I was open to purging everything except for those which have clear consensus to stay. That's my point when I argued about the close, nothing else. I didn't even question about the NCAA nomination as that was done correctly, assuming the closer knows that the consensus mandated should be high enough, but even if s/he didn't, it clearly wasn't high enough. –HTD 13:33, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
I believe the requirement is only that it is likely to be posted each year, not that it is likely to breeze through each year. If you look at the ITN/R page it uses language like "an attempt to standardize which get included" and "assists editors in ensuring a reasonably balanced coverage" and nothing about high levels of consensus. --ThaddeusB (talk) 13:41, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
I can't find the original discussion, but I do remember that the agreement in 2008 was that the requirement that "we shouldn't have a discussion of this same shit every year when we're going to post it anyway". Now, consensus can change, and now we have an ITNR list in which someone always has a beef against one or more items. This isn't recommended. –HTD 14:01, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
The original discussions appear to be here and here. I don't really see any discussion of inclusion criteria - just discussion over which sports were worth including. Needless to say, the criteria have weakened considerably since then when it comes to sports (i.e. a lot more are listed now), and particpiation is higher now... Maybe we should ahve a discussion on the inclusion criteria now. --ThaddeusB (talk) 14:22, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
TBH, there hasn't been an inclusion criteria at all at any time. People even used to sneak in items on the list, then removing it would've been close to impossible (Gaelic sports). I think there was another page where the "breeze through" criteria was discussed (not the exact words) but I couldn't find it. –HTD 14:37, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

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Category:International national basketball competitions[edit]

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Visual editor[edit]

Hey, that feature is just horrible. I noticed that it messes up the template/boxes in the under-17 FIBA tournaments for example. So, can't you make the changes the "normal" way please? Check the history to see what i mean. Kante4 (talk) 18:16, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Sorry about that. I was looking for a quick fix. –HTD 18:20, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Philippine Football Taskforce[edit]

Hi Howard the Duck!

I saw your discussion with some other users in the Philippines national football team talk page and I liked the updates that you were proposing for the article and liked how you handled the objection of the other users, so I went ahead and checked out your user page. Seeing that you seem to be a great contributor on Philippine related topics, I was wondering if you'll be interested in a project I am currently starting. I'm trying to start a Philippine football task force to further improve the  Philippines related football articles on wikipedia and seeing as you're quite diligent and knowledgeable about the topic, maybe you'd be interested in participating in the project. I'm relatively new at editing content in wikipedia (I only created an account and started editing five days ago) so I don't really know how all these task forces and wikiProjects work haha. Hope you'll consider my invite :) Thank you!

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WP:JSTOR access[edit]

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Benedict Fernandez[edit]

Do you have any information on his playing history? The article is very outdated and could at least use an update to his playing history in the infobox? Could you help? Thanks! Rikster2 (talk) 12:25, 9 August 2014 (UTC)

I think the guy isn't playing anymore, at least professionally. Let's see if I can fetch anything. –HTD 12:29, 9 August 2014 (UTC)

Would you mind checking some edits?[edit]

Hi HTD - would you mind checking PBA player edits by this user? Based on his edits to NBA players I am assuming they are vandalism, but don't have access to updated PBA info. Thanks Rikster2 (talk) 15:19, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

All edits were vandalism. –HTD 15:23, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for checking. Rikster2 (talk) 16:02, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

Updates[edit]

Hey, i never ever have seen that done in the past and anyone arguing why it should be done. It just makes a mess in my opinion and making some people believe that they can update the standings "live". Kante4 (talk) 11:41, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

WP:LIVESCORES prohibits it, but i'm not enforcing that rule. What I'm saying is if you're adding quarter scores, you should add the running score too. It's like a footballbox listing the goalscorers but not the goals per team. –HTD 11:59, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
But some people would think that the game is over (even with a mention what time is it). And it was never done and just causes confusion. Even IP's and new editors don't add running scores, so i'm confused why you want it (you are doing a good job overall, so that should not be a dealbreaker for us ;)). Kante4 (talk) 12:08, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Then don't update at all or have a hidden note that we'd only update at the end of each quarter. –HTD 12:13, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
That was never needed as no/rarely editors updated the score before the game was over (you have a few in every kind of sport). Kante4 (talk) 12:29, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
In football it's actually quite easy to do this but they clamped down on it. It's worse in basketball as the score changes all the time. Like I said, my position is if there'd be quarter score updates, there should be running score updates too. –HTD 12:36, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
I gave my reasons above why it should not be done (confusion for users/readers and so...). Agree to disagree. Kante4 (talk) 13:03, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
It would be a lot more confusing for the readers to see quarter scores and not seeing the total running scores. If we're afraid of driveby edits we're pussies. Look, it's driveby edits, it's not even vandalism. –HTD 15:05, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

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V[edit]

V. Okay. Perhaps you love V so much huh? Maybe you were a previous editor? Haha. Well, I just didn't see the need for that link to be italicised... But if you would insist, that wouldn't be much of a big deal. Thanks! I'm doing the article of Colleges of the University of Santo Tomas. Kindly check it out! :) Pampi1010 (talk) 12:16, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

The titles of publications are always italicized. It's normal practice. See WP:MOSTITLE#Major works. See also Template:Ateneo de Manila University. –HTD 12:24, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
Thanks! Anyway, some bot or user edited the Colleges article and removed all the seals of the colleges. I patterned the article from Oxford, Cambridge, and Durham University articles which have all the college logos in one page. Obviously, I missed something, but what? I've seen the link that the user gave me for explanation. I understand in a way why he had to do it. Could you help me do something about it? Thank you again! Pampi1010 (talk) 05:23, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
The logos themselves have to be notable to merit a separate article. –HTD 11:56, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
This is not about V. UST Article is back as a Good Article, however, its not listed in the Wikiproject Universities as one. I can't seem to find when and how it became a good article again. Would you know why? Is the "good article" legit? Thank you. Pampi1010 (talk) 02:55, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
It's been delisted. –HTD 08:54, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

Heyy another! Some user "patrolled" the Colleges article. What does that mean? Is it a good thing? I didn't really understand how "patrol" is defined in the special page:patrol of wikipedia. Yes, it monitors.. but how? Thank you! Pampi1010 (talk) 15:17, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia:New pages patrol/patrolled pagesHTD 15:19, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
So its a bad thing because its now labeled as an article for speedy deletion? Something like that? Ugh. Pampi1010 (talk) 15:25, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
It just means someone else noticed it. –HTD 15:30, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

2014 FIBA Basketball World Cup[edit]

Hello.

I noticed that all standings tables report goal difference. However, FIBA uses goal average in order to rank teams after ties (as stated in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_FIBA_Basketball_World_Cup#Preliminary_round). I tried to test out the "Bs cl2 header navbar" template, in order to incorporate the goal average, but it seems like I am way too newbie to successfully do that.

My question is thus: does a template that incorporates a working version of goal average exists and if so, will you endorse its usage?


Partoni (talk) 15:20, 1 September 2014 (UTC)Partoni

Goal average is only used in case of three-way (or more) ties. Overall goal average is only used when all tiebreakers have been exhausted. We'd be using goal averages for the tie column if it comes to that. –HTD 17:05, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
Senegal not 3rd, Croatia still plays a game right?18abruce (talk) 14:31, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
Yeah sorry I was trying to clean that up when edit conflicts happened. :p –HTD 14:53, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
I've done wsy worse, no worries. Group C is wild, Ukraine now has to defeat USA or they are out.18abruce (talk) 15:16, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
Group C was a tough case to deal with. People were confused on what to do. –HTD 14:56, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
I think saying people were confused is being very kind. Stubbornly ignorant and unapologetic seems more accurate, risk of 3Rs (and a little perspective) kept me away for most of the day. Appreciate all your work.18abruce (talk) 18:56, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
I'd like to think there are people who were confused as well. FIBA has that table ranked by points and goal average and they were using that. Well, those confused people were stubborn, if that counts. –HTD 18:58, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Seth Corteza[edit]

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sindikatu[edit]

Now that Naruto mentioned the AFD for Seth Corteza, I thought maybe you and Nar should take a look at that page as well. Blake Gripling (talk) 06:34, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

Luzon map image in Luzon article[edit]

Hi Howard,

This edit to the Luzon article came up on my watchlist. One thing that did was to restore a {{cleanup}} hatnote which complained, "Jumps between island and island group. (February 2014)". Scrolling down, I saw File:Luzon_regions.PNG, and I got the point.

I see that you uploaded that image, so I thought to ask you about updating it. I don't do much image editing, but I could take a whack at it if you don't want to. I'm thinking that these things need to be done:

  1. The MIMAROPA region ought to be removed from the Luzon regions map. If the MIMAROPA region is somehow associated with Luzon island, the details of that association ought to be clarified in the Luzon article and in other articles (e.g., the Mimaropa and Regions of the Philippines articles)
  2. The color for the Central Luzon region ought to be changed so as not to make Laguna de Bay and Lake Taal seem to be part of that region, and Palawan Island probably ought to be shown on the Luzon regions map.
  3. A separate File:Luzon_island.PNG image ought to be made which eliminates the bits of the image which are not on Luzon island itself.
  4. After the Luzon island map image is available, the Luzon article ought to be changed to use that image instead of the Luzon regions image.

What do you think? Could you put this on your to-do list? If not, do you mind my taking a crack at it?

Or perhaps this discussion ought to be located at Talk:Luzon. If you think it belongs there, feel free to move it.

Cheers, Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 21:54, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

There are several definitions of "Luzon". The two mostly in use are the "island" and the "island group". The former is the "geographical" definition while the latter is the "political" one. The geographical definition refers to the Luzon mainland; the political definition is the part of the Philippines within Regions I to V, NCR and CAR. Think of the analogy between Great Britain#Political definition and the Orkneys, Shetlands and the Isle of Wight.
  1. I haven't checked the MIMAROPA article, but the Regions of the Philippines includes that region within Luzon.
  2. The map has the geographical (red shade) and the political definition (red+maroon shades). It should be quite apparent that the island shaded red is Luzon island per se.
  3. The lakes are white, which should be a visual cue that it's a body of water and there's no land in there.
HTD 22:35, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

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Philippines national football team[edit]

Please do not remove! you can see the biggest defeat of the Malaysian national football team , there is a 8-2, 6-0, 7–1 and etc. (Tommy 11:10, 11 October 2014 (UTC))

Er no. The biggest defeat is the biggest defeat. God this is basic English. –HTD 13:08, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
And apparently, basic mathematics too. Apparently there was a 14-1 loss against Malaysia that's bigger than the 12-goal losses against Indonesia. –HTD 13:13, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

Invitation for a discussion: Serbia national basketball team[edit]

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Volleyball players layout[edit]

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careful[edit]

not sure why you want to mangle the colors for Golden State. Frietjes (talk) 17:43, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

I'd have to blame technology on this one lol –HTD 17:59, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

NCAA Season 90[edit]

So, we will NOT put the 3rd place playoff anymore? TNSD (talk) 14:44, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

At this point you can choose only one. Which is more important? Or we could ditch both in the brackets. The problem with the one you're using is that it's flat out wrong; you used the 4th seed playoff options for the #1 seed, and the 2nd seed playoff for the #3 seed. –HTD 15:13, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

Oh, okay. I get it. TNSD (talk) 04:00, 23 October 2014 (UTC)