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3 revert rule[edit]

115ash replaced Michael Madhusudan Dutt , A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada (founder of ISCKON) , Mani Lal Bhaumik ,Sharadindu Bandyopadhyay creator of Detective Byomkesh Bakshi , Rash Behari Bose founder of INA

with Allama Azizul Haque , Pola Uddin, Baroness Uddin ,Shakib Al Hasan(not much ODI record) ,Abdul Hamid Khan Bhashani , Shefali Chowdhury (did two three supporting roles in HarryPotter movies, there are dozens of guest roles in Blockbuster movies. Only edit of 115ash that can be supported is replacing Fazle Hasan Abed with Ziaur Rahman

I removed Indians Uttam Kumar and Suchitra Sen from the list and added Bangladeshis Jawed Karim and Irene Khan as i found them a better choice . He gave this reason for revert Really? All of them don't appear to be notable. he was questioning the notability of Michael Madhusudan Dutt , A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada (founder of ISCKON) , Mani Lal Bhaumik ,Sharadindu Bandyopadhyay , Rash Behari Bose . He is picking up people from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangladeshis and adding them on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bengali_peopleCosmic Emperor (talk) 00:54, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you expect me to do here. You have reverted at least as often as him, so I'd be careful about WP:3RR myself if I were you. Furthermore, there's a talk page discussion going; reverting has stopped. Huon (talk) 04:52, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

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Thanks for your outstanding contribution to help new user.  Masum Ibn Musa  Conversation 04:04, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

Un-welcoming[edit]

Okay: I understand.
To place my point that user was welcoming users those who were already welcomed. But after reading your message, I understand my point: and I am sorry for my act.
I will keep this point in my mind and never do this mistake ever.
Sorry for the harm done
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Request on 09:33:49, 7 April 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by 176.205.217.164[edit]


Can i know why my article dont get accepted

176.205.217.164 (talk) 09:33, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

If this is about Lovelynoora, that draft was declined (and then deleted) because it was a piece of puffery that promoted her YouTube channel without even attempting to provide reliable sources. The draft on Mindy Mcknight was deleted because it was a blatant copyright violation, copy-pasted from here. Huon (talk) 18:00, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

Teikhang[edit]

Could you clarify why you reverted this article so heavily here please?©Geni (talk) 09:05, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

@Geni: There were no reliable sources given for any of the content, there were issues with the grammar and with fragments such as a timestamp appearing in the middle of it. Some parts of the content sounded more like local legends than facts, and for others, particularly the religion, I doubt they're true. At best it was original research, at worst propaganda. Huon (talk) 22:08, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

IDIPIA[edit]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Babu_ID/IDIPIA can you review it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Babu ID (talkcontribs) 13:28, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

@Babu ID: Unfortunately that draft has already been deleted because it was over-the-top promotional. I have to agree with that assessment. To provide just one small example, consider this excerpt: "... focused on providing highly scalable services with innovative approaches and advanced methodologies". What information does that provide? Very little. What makes the services "highly scalable"? On what scale? What are the approaches, what innovations do they contain, and who reported on them? What are the methodologies, and compared to what others are they advanced? The draft answered none of those questions, and it's pretty clear the purpose of that phrase was not to help our readers' understanding of IDIPIA but to impress them with its greatness. That's simply not what Wikipedia is for. Huon (talk) 22:08, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

Please see my talkpage[edit]

Although I am indeed one of those 4,000 cadets and not an official of the Academy, I'm not just having a little fun. This IP should be blocked because it will only contribute WP:VANDALISM that looks poorly on the Academy. I think allowing account creation is the perfect solution. --140.32.16.3 (talk) 02:25, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, but no. We're not here to protect the Academy's reputation from its own cadets. In the history of that IP address blocks have been comparatively rare, and the most recent contributions seem to be in good faith. Thus there's no reason to block it, certainly not indefinitely. Huon (talk) 20:18, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
I was the one who posted this request while logged out. I'm not looking to protect the Academy's reputation so much as I am the encyclopedia from nonconstructive edits. What will you do when vandalism arises once more from it, though?--DawnDusk (talk) 02:27, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
If vandalism becomes an issue, then it's time to block the IP. We do not block preemptively because someone might use the IP for vandalism, though. Huon (talk) 17:59, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

Thank you[edit]

Hello again. Thank you for your mature and helpful response at User talk:QUSRAAFCAF. Everyone makes the occasional mistake, myself included of course. I also appreciate that being an Administrator on Wikipedia can tend to be a fairly thankless task too. So for my part I apologise for the confrontational tone of my comment. I have self administered a few upper cuts since writing it and will try to be a bit more circumspect in my responses in the future. Kind regards. Anotherclown (talk) 11:15, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

I can't quite say "my pleasure" to that affair, but I'm glad we got it all sorted out. I only hope we didn't drive off QUSRAAFCAF in the process. Huon (talk) 18:29, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

Thank you too[edit]

Thank you, Huon. Any idea why the unicode characater appears correctly - on my system - just after the word "abbreviation" at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tironian_notes#Current but does not show up correctly - on my system - when viewing this page?

I don't think my own computer can be the issue, in this fact pattern. RiverStyx23{submarinetarget} 23:50, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

Actually your browser would be my first suspect. I found a comment that the Internet Explorer running on WinXP may need a little extra support to correctly display unicode, for example. The next piece of advice I can give is to use the {{unicode}} template or <span class="Unicode">⁊</span>. Huon (talk) 00:02, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

Just a question[edit]

Hello, I was looking for past contributions made today and found a talk page I deleted for "[redacted]" to be deleted [link redacted]. Any reason for this? I only welcomed the editor and left him warnings (2) for his edits. --FAT RAT (talk) 20:31, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

On this edit [1], I either used rollback or a managed Twinkle revert so there could have been no nasty comment I made that should be invisible. --FAT RAT (talk) 20:33, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
@The Fat Rat of Chepstow: That username clearly is inappropriate because it accuses a specific person of a crime; it has been oversighted for that reason (you won't find the user in the user list any more). There was nothing wrong with your edits (except the edit summary probably mentioned the username), but the username in question is itself at best a BLP issue, at worst a blatant personal attack. Please don't spread that username around. Huon (talk) 20:41, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
Sorry, I got a little overzealous with redacting links; while the diff you point out is no longer visible, that's because the previous revision is problematic; your revision (excepting the edit summary) is still available. To see a diff betwee two edits, neither edit may have been oversighted; otherwise the problematic content would still be accessible. Huon (talk) 20:54, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
Yeah I've got the picture now, basically the very name is an offending remark so it shouldn't be uttered anywhere on the site; and in order to clear it from the system, surrounding damage is inevitable because you'd have to blank visibility on two revisions and summaries at fewest and there is no way out of it. So without intention, the rollback options all give the reverted editor's user name. As for spreading it around, don't worry, now that it's gone I don't think I can even remember it verbatim!!! Which is the best way :) :) :) --FAT RAT (talk) 13:35, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

Malcolm H. Stern page - quotes[edit]

Hi Huon. Thank you again for being so helpful and constructive on the IRC channel. I don't know what it is but I really hear what you are saying when you give me feedback. And I really appreciate it.

I just wanted to let you know I cleaned up most of the quotes on the page, and lo and behold, I think it significantly improved the page. Using the quoted material weakened the page and actually made it less clear. So I really appreciate your help with that point.

I am going to evaluate the works and publications section and may write some sort of summary to encapsulate the breadth and scope of the work Stern did. I may also carve off the works and publications to its own page. I need to figure that out.

Again, thanks so much. I was at my wits end and you really restored my faith in Wikipedia, although I am still pretty upset at my initial mistake, and then the pain it took to fix the problem.

Sorry, didn't mean to yammer on. I wish there was a way that I could reciprocate in kind on Wikipedia, I'm just so thankful to you for your patience and kindness. All the best, Huon. -- Erika aka BrillLyle (talk) 19:56, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

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Thank you for helping me on IRC, for always having links to resources and information, and for your kind assistance! BrillLyle (talk) 20:16, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

Did not notice the C C; sorry[edit]

Hi, I did not notice that the text at Draft:BaFa' BaFa' - Cross Cultural/Diversity Simulation was licensed. Sorry about the mixup! wia (talk) 19:10, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Don't worry; that's rather easy to miss. I have added a licensing tag to the bottom of the page. Huon (talk) 20:13, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Ross Palombo[edit]

The subject article was PRODed by yourself - it has been restored as a contested PROD. You may wish to consider WP:AfD in the light of this result. Ronhjones  (Talk) 19:32, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Interesting template. Thanks for the notification. Huon (talk) 20:13, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

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For brilliant detective work. All the best. 1Potato2Potato3Potato4 (talk) 19:34, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

Files on the Commons[edit]

Thanks for your quick response. Not sure where I go from here. How do I access "file pages" (with "Upload a new version of this file" in the "File history" section")? And if I have an email from the current Bishop saying that I may place the former Bishops' pictures from the Diocesan website in the public domain, can I send this email somewhere (to Wiki) and have this happen, so that they will retain the pictures? If so, where?Jzsj (talk) 18:33, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

@Jzsj: When you're at the Wikimedia Commons, you'll see an "Uploads" link at the top right of the page, right next to "Log out". That will show a list of files you uploaded, with links to the pages on the individual files such as File:Bishop Osmond P. Martin.jpg. Regarding the copyright, from Wikipedia's (respectively the Commons') point of view it would be best if you could ask the Bishop to send that email confirming that the images are released into the public domain to permissions-commons@wikimedia.org himself (or have an authorized representative of the diocese send the email); the people dealing with that email queue will then add the appropriate permission tags to the various files. A standard release form can be found here: WP:Declaration of consent for all enquiries. You should maybe point out that releasing it into the public domain isn't required and may be more permissive than he'd like; personally I'd suggest releasing them under an acceptable Creative Commons license such as CC-BY-SA 3.0 instead. That way, any derivative works would need to be released under a compatible license, and the diocese would need to be credited (for example via a link to their website, which would be a good idea in any case). Huon (talk) 19:36, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

permission for pictures[edit]

Thanks for sticking with me on this, but I keep running into terms for which I don't understand the reference in this context ("template," "URL"). Can I do this. After waiting seven days for my submission of 7 pictures to be removed, I'll send an email with the 7 photos properly cropped to Wikipedia commons. It will mention that I am a representative of the owner of the photos (I have an email declaring this), and, since the photos are merely pictures of Bishops, the Diocese doesn't care if someone wants to use them: they're in the public domain. (I tried the "delete" option but I couldn't find where to enter the tag, so I decided to go this other route.) Bishop Chris Glancy in Belize is very busy and would prefer for me to handle this, given his permission in an email he sent me.

I would strongly advise against this approach. Basically you're saying, "I can't show any independent evidence, but I'm allowed to enter legally binding agreements on behalf of the diocese, trust me". I do not expect that will work. I see no indication that the diocese doesn't care about copyright; quite the opposite: The page the images are displayed on bears an explicit "© 2015 - The Roman Catholic Diocese of Belize City & Belmopan" tag at the bottom. Even if the Bishop really means to release the image into the public domain, I do not think the kind of evidence you have would be considered sufficient by Wikipedia without a confirmation from the diocese itself, either by adding a note to that effect to the website where the images are displayed or by sending an email from an official email address to permissions-commons@wikimedia.org. An email of thanks for uploading them is not evidence of release into the public domain. I'd also advise against waiting until the images have been deleted; that's an unnecessary delay that will not resolve or simplify any issues. My advise would instead be to try and address the permission issue as soon as possible.
An URL means an internet address, something like http://www.example.com or http://catholic.bz/v1/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=99:belize-bishops&Itemid=86 (our article on URLs is rather technical, unfortunately). If you mean the Email templates, that's just the standard meaning of the term, a form letter that can comparatively easily be filled out to let the copyright holder provide evidence of an image's licensing. Otherwise, "template" on Wikipedia refers to code that's meant to be easily re-used on multiple pages. Huon (talk) 20:40, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Hopefully...[edit]

If I understand you correctly, I can request that the Bishop send an email from an official email address to permissions-commons@wikimedia.org. declaring that "the 7 attached pictures of Bishops are completely in the public domain, and released from any copyright." Also, I'm sorry I can't locate the tag you told me to place on the pictures I want deleted. Please resend the tag and clarify for me exactly where I place this tag once I go to the picture's special page. Again, thanks for getting me started on all this.Jzsj (talk) 21:28, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Yes, if the Bishop sent such an email that would help. The people who deal with that email queue will then take the necessary steps to mark the images as being in the public domain, resolving all the licensing issues (that may take some time, though; I hear the email queue is somewhat backlogged). I didn't send any tag for deleting the images, and in fact I'd recomment not to have them deleted. If you want to upload cropped or resized versions of those images, you can do so under the same name without having the old ones deleted. To do so, take a look at the file pages such as commons:File:Bishop Osmond P. Martin.jpg; as I mentioned on your talk page, you'll find an "Upload a new version of this file" link in the "File history" section of those pages. You could also upload the cropped versions under new names, say "Bishop Osmond P. Martin cropped.jpg"; that of course also wouldn't require the deletion of the original images. Huon (talk) 22:16, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

El rostro de la venganza[edit]

Hello. I don't want to revert the user Duduty96 because I do not really want to return to be blocked. But will happen to your edits in the article El rostro de la venganza?.--Philip J Fry Talk 23:17, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

I have reverted that page as well to restore the information for which you provided sources. Reverting once is not a problem; reverting over and over again without an attempt to discuss the issue is. Huon (talk) 02:03, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
OK, thanks for the help.--Philip J Fry Talk 02:17, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

Violetta (telenovela)[edit]

Hello sorry that bother you again. But on this occasion there is some problem with an IP. If you look at the history of the article you will see the type of issues that this Ip has made. Leave you a message, but don't think that you lend him much intention. As he could not do this edition, He made this edition. Their editing would reverse, but it would be a loss of time. Since I don't think see you the message that lets you here. Could you do something about it?.--Philip J Fry Talk 02:38, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

@Philip J Fry: I have re-added the cast list as it stood before the IP's edits. There's a longer cast list in the body of the article, but there's nothing wrong with the infobox summarizing the most important actors - just as the rest of the infobox also summarizes the most important information about the telenovela that should be explained in greater detail in the body of the article. Regarding the IP editor, unfortunately I must say that I didn't find the message you left them particularly helpful. From context it was pretty obvious what the IP aimed for; have you considered helping them, telling them how to achieve their goal, or explaining why achieving that goal is not desirable? I'd bet from that IP editor's perspective your removal of the cast list will have looked a lot more destructive than their attempts at restoring it. Huon (talk) 17:18, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
I've left him a message on his discussion to the ip on its latest edition. Because the Edition is still incorrect, the main protagonist of Violetta are: Diego Ramos, Martina Stoessel, Jorge Blanco, Mercedes Lambre, Lodovica Comello, Clara Alonso, Pablo Espinosa and Diego Domínguez. Facundo Gambandé not is the protagonist of this telenovela, the only part of the secondary cast. And put "Pablo Espinosa (S.1)" seems unnecessary, because for this already this section of the cast, describing in that season I participate every actor. That single ip is organizing the cast to your liking. And where I understand the template's only television should be the main cast organized as it appears in the credits of the program. I've left him a message, I don't know if my message is clear.--Philip J Fry Talk 13:04, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

Check for mistakes[edit]

Can you please check my draft , if i made any unintentional mistake. .https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Shorshe_Ilish --CosmicEmperor (talk) 17:01, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

@CosmicEmperor: We have a dedicated review process for drafts, and yours is correctly submitted for a review. At a very short glance I don't see any obvious issues except the bulleted list of URLs at the end. Those that duplicate references should be removed outright, and for the others I'd suggest you either summarize what those sources say (and turn them into inline citations in the process) or add some metadata (for example via the {{cite news}} or {{cite web}} templates) and turn them into a "further reading" or "external links" section. Huon (talk) 17:18, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
@Huon: , I don't understand much . My one article is accepted , two are rejected. I spent entire day for creating this. If you can kindly edit what you are writing above , then i will learn. You please go to the draft and edit. I don't have much energy left right now to edit the same draft i prepared for so many hours . The draft will be reviewed shortly--CosmicEmperor (talk) 17:25, 18 April 2015 (UTC)


Hi Huon nice to meet you through Wikipedia. I have question how do I change my username. Also, since it was never built maybe we should put as a former planned route. Thank you for the tip about the username. DietCokeIsTheBest (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 21:53, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

Okay[edit]

Hi Huon nice to meet you through Wikipedia. I have question how do I change my username. Also, since it was never built maybe we should put as a former planned route. Thank you for the tip about the username. DietCokeIsTheBest (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 21:53, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

@DietCokeIsTheBest: You cannot change your username yourself, but you can request a username change at this page: WP:Changing username/Simple. That page has detailed instructions on how to add the request. Huon (talk) 22:00, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

User:98.116.21.171[edit]

Hello, could you help me?.On April 21 I asked for help here, but so far no one has responded. User 98.116.21.171, is adding misinformation in various soap operas articles of Televisa, already leave you a message, but seems that it ignores them and really don't know to do in this case. This user already takes several days doing the same issues.--Philip J Fry Talk 02:52, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

I'll take a closer look tomorrow. At a quick glance I agree the IP editor's contributions are not beneficial, but right now I don't have the time to look more closely into the issue and to determine the best way forward. If you're merely looking for helpers to keep an eye on the IP, WT:WikiProject Soap Operas may be a good place to ask for help, but if the disruptive edits don't stop, a block likely is necessary. Huon (talk) 01:13, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

Ronn Torossian[edit]

Would appreciate if you can help me. Feel free to email at ronn@5wpr.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.254.85.130 (talk) 20:53, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but I don't write Wikipedia-related emails. If you need help, you can contact info-en-q@wikimedia.org (which will reply via email). Huon (talk) 21:48, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk back[edit]

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Hello, Huon. You have new messages at Acagastya's talk page.
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...that external linking can't be made internal?
aGastya  ✉ Dicere Aliquid :) 20:17, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

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Drafts[edit]

Can you check these two drafts please; if you have time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:1987_Meerut_Riots

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Tomato_Date_Chutney --C E (talk) 14:46, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

@CosmicEmperor: To be blunt, Draft:1987 Meerut Riots reads like an untterly partisan screed, detailing Muslim atrocities in detail while omitting almost any mention of arson and murder by the PAC and Hindus, despite practically every single one of your references detailing such actions, including an alleged massacre of 42 people in police custody. In a particularly cynical twist, the draft makes it appear as if the murder of muslims were part of "controlling the riots", not part of the riots themselves. The references aren't just used to give a one-sided view of the riots, at times - despite explicit claims in the body of the article - they do not say what you cite them for. Furthermore, the chronology of events is unclear, events are not portrayed in a meaningful order, and while I acknowledge that the riots apparently were a complex, multi-faceted affair, the draft does not come close to giving an overview of what happened, much less why.
I'd say Draft:Tomato Date Chutney focuses too much on the recipe itself and has too little encyclopedic information about the dish. Wikipedia is not a cookbook. Two of your references don't provide any information on the dish beyond recipes; the third, the ToI article, is only slightly better. Since tomatoes are not native to India, when was this dish invented, and when did it become a must-have at "traditional" weddings? Was it a variation of previous dishes that were popular at weddings? Your draft doesn't say, and neither do the references. If recipes are all that can be found, I rather doubt this particular dish can be considered notable. Huon (talk) 16:33, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

In the previous version, I mentioned the details of massacre of Muslims; but it was rejected by a reviewer and asked me to merge it with Hashimpura massacre . But i felt this needs a separate page for itself--- as in this case 350 people died and in that Hashimpura massacre 42 people were killed. Meerut riots got huge coverage during 1987, but only Hashimpura massacre was remembered as the accused were police. And an article existed in WP. I thought if I mention about Hashimpura massacre in this draft once again, they will ask me to merge with an existing article, something which i can't accept. Even in Teahouse; Host Cullen accepted that the page 1987 Meerut riots do deserve an wikipage, he asked me to fix the bare URLs and add more details. Now as WP follows copyright issues, i was not sure how much to add from the sources. And you are right, I myself couldn't decide the chronology as different sources mention different things. And all of them are reliable sources.If the draft gets accepted, i will add more details from the sources.

And regarding that recipe, i couldn't find much sources. C E (talk) 17:38, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

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YMB29[edit]

Thanks for reviewing YMB29's block. Could you please also consider whether their talk page access should be turned off? This was their third declined unblock request, and all they use their talk page for is tendentious attempts to justify their actions to support further similar (and doomed to fail) unblock attempts. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 06:26, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

Michael Soussoudis[edit]

I just wanted to thank you for approving my article and ask a few quick questions. As I am a new user (making this article for a class) I had trouble uploading a picture onto my page, I believe I didnt have enough edits to upload one. I was wondering if you could possibly help with putting that on the page, the link is below. Also I noticed my article was graded a starter class. Upon looking at the example of other starter articles, I have to disagree. I understand my article is short, but that is all the relevant information about my topic online, there is not a plethora of things about Michael Soussoudis to be found online. Thank you for your time, and have a good day!

http://imgur.com/TGxX4jQ - Picture of Micahel Soussoudis — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thomasmatthew83 (talkcontribs) 14:06, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

Offline sources are also acceptable; you will have to provide enough bibliographical information to allow our readers to look up that source in a library. The video at WP:Referencing for beginners explains how to easily create nicely-formatted footnotes to cite print sources. If you feel the article meets C-class criteria you're welcome to change the rating, but I don't think it's a big issue either way. Regarding the image, we'd need to know whether it has been released by the copyright holder under a free license that allows everybody to re-use and modify it for any purpose, including commerical purposes. I see no evidence of such a permission. Thus we cannot use that image on Wikipedia. Huon (talk) 15:40, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

Draft:Jefferson Flanders[edit]

Hi Huon, I am writing to seek your advice. As I know, other wikipedians appreciate your tolerance for newcomers and constructive approach. I have created a draft article for submission via WP:AFC. Here it is: Draft:Jefferson Flanders. Could you please have a look at it and tell me whether it can be accepted under WP:LIVE?

As you can see on my user page, I have added a disclosure of paid contributions in compliance with Terms of Use. I would like to make my draft neutral and avoid conflict of interest. Please let me know your opinion about my wiki article. JF2015 (talk) 16:47, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

@JF2015: I'd say that draft will need better references. Of the current references:
  • Interviews are not independent coverage.
  • The Kirkus and Foreword reviews were bought and are not an indication of notability.
  • The Washington Times review apparently was written by a friend of Flanders' father, not quite as independent a source as we'd prefer.
  • Speaking of Flanders' father, the obituary does not cover Flanders himself in any detail.
  • I rather doubt the Kirkus Authors page is independent coverage under Kirkus Reviews' editorial control; it looks more like a part of the promotions they offer.
That leaves us with the HuffPo review as the only truly independent coverage of Flanders, and a single source, even if it were something higher-profile than a HuffPo-hosted blog, is not enough to establish that Flanders is notable. Huon (talk) 23:31, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
@Huon: I really appreciate such a detailed and comprehensive comment. Thank you for your time and efforts. I see your reasoning and don't dispute that we need more independent coverage to establish notability. I will look for more sources to support my submission or re-submit this draft later, when they are available. JF2015 (talk) 20:38, 5 May 2015 (UTC)