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Happy New Year[edit]

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Draft:Sachin Sharma[edit]

Hi Huon, Thanks for the discussion on the Draft: Sachin Sharma link. I made improvements as suggested and submitted for review by pressing the green button. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by P20121 (talkcontribs) 00:50, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

@P20121: You're welcome, but you may want to check the draft's tone. With phrases such as "endorsed by many legendary artists" or "widely appreciated by audiences internationally", it currently sounds rather promotional, and the latter, at least, isn't backed up by the reference cited at the end of that sentence. Huon (talk) 23:50, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Hi Huon - thank you. I have edited accordingly for review. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by P20121 (talkcontribs) 11:39, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

Happy 2015![edit]

Dear Huon, Sending you greetings on the New Year, wishing that 2015 brings you good work and a modicum of stress...I still smile to myself when I think of our tussles...I learned a great deal, much more to learn. Cheers! Miramaribelle (talk) 06:36, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

@Miramaribelle: Thanks a lot for your good wishes; may you also have a happy and healthy new year! Huon (talk) 23:50, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

A cup of coffee for you![edit]

A small cup of coffee.JPG Here, this will help contribute energy to keep you going in #wikipedia-en-help. Keep up the good work! Command and Conquer Expert! speak to me... 05:24, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

Agnes Bennett[edit]

Thanks Huon for your help with Agnes Bennett Lakelady2282 (talk) 07:05, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

@Lakelady2282: You're welcome, thanks for writing the article in the first place! Huon (talk) 23:50, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Interview for The Signpost[edit]

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A kitten for you![edit]

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Happy days! and thank you! :-)

EllenvanderVeen (talk) 10:48, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

You're welcome, my pleasure! Huon (talk) 23:50, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Disruptive editing[edit]

I saw your block of an IP today. Here is another example of this IP's edits today (see end of thread, message addressed to me). ~ P-123 (talk) 21:24, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

Yes, that's trolling, but I'm not sure what you'd like me to do about that. The IP is blocked already. Huon (talk) 22:19, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

Nur Khan Deletion[edit]

Hello Huon,

Thanks for getting back to me. After a long winded process and much back and forth with real time chat editors, I was advised to exclusively use sources that were independent of Nur Khan's website. The editors advised me that he had enough media coverage to exclusively use those as references. That is why in the second draft I omitted Nur Khan's website as a source. I didn't even use it. Where do you see the copyright violation? I want to create a third draft but want to make absolutely sure it will be approved. I haven't once copy and pasted. Really looking for some guidance! What would you advice? Thank you Huon.

Matte finish wiki (talk) 23:12, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

I rather doubt it's a coincidence that both your draft and Nur Khan's website contain phrases such as "has since set the industry standard" (which is not based on the given source, but in fact contradicted by it) or "[...] gritty rock and roll scene, featuring a series of concerts by established iconic rock and roll artists [...]" (and given that the source cited for that statement only covered the opening night, it couldn't say anything about a "series of concerts" either). You have taken the content from Nur Khan's website and hung some more or less related sources on it that may mention some keywords. That's not the way to write an encyclopedia article. Huon (talk) 00:09, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for your response Huon. I think there has been a lot of confusion as this has been an ongoing project for me and I've rewriting it several times. For the next submission, I'll make sure that all of the language in its entirety is in my own words. I'll be sure to cross reference. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Matte finish wiki (talkcontribs) 15:21, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

Huon/Jaeze Can't figure out where to put this but it refers back to response you gave me.[edit] article about J S Shipman article by Seago and Shipman Anhinga Haiku Article about Dr. Shipman's Presentation on Good Germs, Bad Germs Among othersJaeze (talk) 02:57, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

@Jaeze: Let me go through those references one by one:
  1. Unless I'm missing something, all the Mycological Society of America newsletter offers is a note that Shipman is giving away a book he wrote about mushrooms. It's not a book review and provides no facts about either Shipman or the book (beyond Shipman giving it away). Thus it won't prove particularly helpful for Wikipedia's purposes. In particular, it's not an article about Shipman.
  2. The Bioscene article is by Shipman, not about him. Wikipedia content should be based on independent sources, not on a person's own writings.
  3. Read about it is Shipman's own blog. Another primary source. See above, except this is also self-published.
  4. The Brookline note about Shipman's presentation arguably is the best of the four because it's apparently not written by Shipman himself and provides a little biographical information about him. But it's far too little for an encyclopedia article about him, and I rather doubt the Brookline Senior News and Events is subject to the editorial oversight required to be considered a reliable source by Wikipedia.
In summary I see no indication that Shipman meets Wikipedia's standards of notability, and we should neither have an article about him nor add him to the poets list. Huon (talk) 03:58, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

Article for deletion need to review[edit]

You had once helped me with Gidugu Venkata Ramamoorty. I had put Gajendra Rathi for deletion and 1 vote agreed. It was closed with no-consensus. I still want it delete I want it deleted because I think that the person is not known like others who have their biographies here. Can you relist because you are an admin? నిజానికి (talk) 08:14, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

See User talk:Becky Sayles#Articles for deletion of Gajendra Rathi. Huon (talk) 13:18, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
Deleted by you now. Thanks!! నిజానికి (talk) 16:03, 11 January 2015 (UTC)


I deleted the last paragraph from , as suggested. not sure what to do re: inline citations, as I taught with him at Parsons and this is all from memory. if that means the article has issues, well, that's the best I can do. thanks. (talk) 01:01, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

Personal memories are not acceptable sources for Wikipedia; our content must be verifiable from reliable published sources. What cannot be verified in this way should be removed. Huon (talk) 17:36, 12 January 2015 (UTC)


thanks for blocking I'm checking / reverting the changes now — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 22:26, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

Category:AR platform[edit]

Category:AR platform, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. DexDor (talk) 07:57, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

see User talk:Dannis243[edit]

see User talk:Dannis243 Dannis243 (talk) 16:49, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

Kibi78704 & Porting :Template:Cite web to Scottish Gaelic Wikipedia[edit]

Thanks, Huon. That is exactly the information I needed. I may have a few questions once I start the process, but this is enough to get started. Happy New Year, Kibi78704 (talk) 21:19, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

see User talk:Dannis243[edit]

see User talk:Dannis243[edit]

see User talk:Dannis243 Dannis243 (talk) 12:51, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Thank you...[edit]

Thank you Huon for giving me this advice:

The image you uploaded was previously uploaded here. Thus it looks as if you didn't take it yourself but merely copied it from there. If you hold the copyright, please send an email from an address affiliated with that site to for confirmation. A standard release form can be found here: WP:Declaration of consent for all enquiries. Huon (talk) 18:37, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

I have emailed with a standard release form gathered from WP:Declaration of consent for all enquiries. Do I now wait for a response?

Lighthouselane (talk) 20:06, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

@Lighthouselane: Yes. Unfortunately I don't have access to that email queue myself, but other volunteers will deal with it. Please be patient. Huon (talk) 20:15, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

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see User talk:Dannis243[edit]

see User talk:Dannis243 Dannis243 (talk) 12:39, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

unrealated to my request[edit]

Hi, I have been working on the article with an editor called norbert in the live chat and we think it is ready for review. He asked me to ask you directly Huon, since you have previously reviewed it. Thanks a lot in advance. Carmen — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 15:53, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

see User talk:Dannis243[edit]

see User talk:Dannis243 Dannis243 (talk) 12:59, 18 January 2015 (UTC)


Upload Wizard (again)[edit]

Hello Huon - first, a belated Happy New Year! I see that your last 'Talk' correspondence is dated 14 Jan - so I am sure you are pretty busy again. As my title (above) says, I have been struggling with WikiCommons - and despite my best efforts, lost (or seem to have done so) see: What did I do wrong?? Eager to stand corrected (!)

    • Prev: Ah! found it - I think.
      Second Generation CHAT

My last encounter with commons was 3 months ago, so, I must have been getting a bit rusty. There are still two things, though: 1. How/where do I adjust the pixels? 2. The image is a bit askew. Is it possible to replace it with a 'better' one later on? Thanks again so much. (Pronacampo9 (talk) 14:05, 18 January 2015 (UTC))

Second Generation CHAT
Hello Pronacampo9, and a happy new year to you, too!
  1. You can adjust the size when the image is displayed; the "thumb" parameter creates a "thumbnail" of the image in a standardized size, but you can explicitly change that size by adding a parameter for the size in pixels; for example [[File:Second Generation CHAT.jpg|thumb|300px|Second Generation CHAT]] will give the enlarged image displayed below.
  2. At the Wikimedia commons, at the bottom of the "File history" section, there is a "Upload a new version of this file" link that can be used to replace the image with a newer version. The only restriction is that the new image must still be of the same file type (here, still .jpg).
On an unrelated note, there seems to be a "marbled" strip at the bottom of the image, possibly an artifact of the scanning process. If you upload an improved image anyway, could you try to remove that strip, too, maybe by cropping the image a little? Huon (talk) 19:22, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
Duvel, a typical blond Belgian ale
    • Ah, what can I say! : as usual, you make it all (seem) all too easy. For the rare times I go on Wikimedia it is for me like walking on hot coals –scared of setting a foot wrong. When I could not upload what I had ‘created’ into my article, I thought fate had struck again.

But there you were again, to get me out of the shifting sands: thanks so much for all the extra advice, too. Yes, I noticed only too well that ‘marbled’ strip, but not until it was ‘too late’ – happy to hear though that, here too, I can make amends. There is still a third diagram to come – will have to prove that, at last, I can walk on my own. Have this one on me! (Pronacampo9 (talk) 20:40, 18 January 2015 (UTC))

You're welcome, I'm happy to help. Thanks for the ale! Huon (talk) 20:55, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
 : 19 Jan: Aint I a big boy now:

PS: One little fly in the ointment: I ended up with the date (19.01) in the latest (3rd) diagram. (Pronacampo9 (talk) 14:02, 19 January 2015 (UTC))

 :: Yes, Huon, if the subtitle could simply say "Third Generation CHAT", (ie minus the x and the date), that would be perfect. It would also nicely harmonize the third with the second graph, which now says "Second Generation CHAT". Thanks for offering a pathway to do that. In the meantime I have figured out a way I could, perhaps do this myself: as you can see, I successfully replaced the 'marbled' and skewed 2nd graph with a 'clean' one. I could, therefore simply replace third graph with a new one, too, which swimply says "Third Generation CHAT". You see, when scanning the PP I had stupidly entered the date (19Jan) on the (saved) scanned jpg file and that unfortunately came through in the final product. Now, with these two synchronized files, File #1 stands out a bit, as it says "Image Caption", rather than "First Generation CHAT", as would be desirable. So what I suggest is that I will deal with the synchronization of the 2nd graph, first. (I'll have to wait till tomorrow to do that, as I have no scanner where I am now). But, please, if you would be so kind, could you have a second look at the first graph and possibly change the present "Image Caption" title to: "First Generation CHAT". PS: I think all of this will be worth the trouble: this is the only wiki article I know of where the three generations are presented on the same page, and I have a hunch that those graphs are going to be pretty heavily copied and used in the future. Muito obrigado! (Pronacampo9 (talk) 18:44, 19 January 2015 (UTC))
PPSS: now that I am 'at it', perhaps I could insert a new file for Graph 1, too, in the way I uploaded graphs 2 and 3, so that we get three graphs, all the same size and with the same (type of) subtitle. What do you think? (Pronacampo9 (talk) 18:54, 19 January 2015 (UTC)}
Re: my suggestion would be to upload the "clean" version, currently at File:Vygotsky Basic Mediated Action.jpg as a newer version in place of File:First Generation CHAT.jpg and have the then-duplicate at File:Vygotsky Basic Mediated Action.jpg deleted.
A: (NB: Knowing now that you hold company with dragons, (renewed) Respect! for you, Huon!)
Had a quick look, and, really, ‘we are getting there!’. As I said, I will have to wait till tomorrow for tackling this – (remaining, 1st generation) – job hands on. Only, as I have still the original PP draughts, I thought it might be simpler to make a new, “clean” copy from scratch, which resembles the two other ones as closely as possible, and then upload the new version on File:First Generation CHAT.jpg? The only instance where I cannot quite follow you, Huon, is when it comes to “deleting” File:Vygotsky Basic Mediated Action.jpg? Is it at all possible to delete anything on Wikipedia? I thought that anything you write or put there is archived there indelibly for ever and ever, amen? (-:
Thanks also for doing the Engeström principles adjustments. It’s a long time since I wrote that, so I will have to revisit that issue and see whether it would/will carry the approval of the big man from Finland if/when he sees it. Thanks again for all the painstaking work. (Pronacampo9 (talk) 20:30, 19 January 2015 (UTC))
If you intend to upload a newer version anyway, that's a much easier solution than what I suggested. It's possible to delete content both on Wikipedia and (for images) on the Commons, but it's not done without good reason - having two images that look the same probably would be one such good reason. For Wikipedia, deletion is governed by the WP:Deletion policy - the main reasons are probably "blatant nonsense or vandalism" and "the topic isn't notable enough for an encyclopedia article" (say, for local bands or small businesspeople writing about themselves), neither of which is an issue here. Huon (talk) 20:59, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
20 Jan Dear Huon: I had just created a new ‘First Generation' slide to replace the one at present in the article with, but, when I opened thumb|285px|First Generation CHAT I saw that it was exactly the same as the new image I had created to replace it with . . . . So, no, I don’t think you ‘messed up’ yesterday: everything is for the best. I will now have another look at Engeström’s five principles. All the best (Pronacampo9 (talk) 10:33, 20 January 2015 (UTC))
21 Jan: Yes, me again, Huon: (re - a possibly pedantic ps): it is not uncommon for multilinguists to mix up especially the spelling of words. So, because for some years I had predominantly used French (eg Burkina Faso) I kept spelling the English word 'exercise' as “exercice” (fr) It took years for someone to pull me up on this. Now, this morning, when I was checking the Engström principles, I had another look at the 1st generation graph and it struck me that ‘Artifact’ is spelled there as ‘Artefact’. Checking up on google I find that: Artefact is the British spelling of the noun meaning, primarily, an object shaped by human workmanship, especially one of historical or archaeological interest. Artifact is the American spelling. Both spellings are etymologically justifiable, and both are hundreds of years old in English. The British preference for artefact is a new development. The two forms vied for ascendancy in British writing through much of the 20th century until artefact finally gained the upper hand around 1990. Quite some years ago, a (British) publisher made me change all by British spellings to American spelling and I have stuck to this ever since, including in this article.
Q: do you think this would be worth changing the present 1st generation diagram for or shall we let sleeping dogs lie? (Pronacampo9 (talk) 12:22, 21 January 2015 (UTC))
Wikipedia's stance on local varieties of English is that articles should be internally consistent, but unless the topic has a strong national association (say, England or Isaac Newton versus California or James Dean), whatever style the original author (here, you) chooses is okay and should not be changed just for the fun of it. Whether a diagram should use the same variant of English as the article it's displayed on is debatable; I'd say it's nice if we are consistent, but the same diagram may be used on different articles using different variants of English, so we can't hope to always be consistent where images are concerned. I wouldn't bother with changing that diagram. Huon (talk) 18:44, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
Thank you so much for this second opinion, Huon. Google Image fields both the Artisan and Artesan versions (including Pronacampo9’s, even though the article aint ‘published’ yet!). I think your reply is well balanced, but I needed some confirmation about ‘letting sleeping dogs lie’, as, indeed, I am using the ‘artisan’ (Am) spelling in the main body of the next. Back with the nose to the grindstone now. (Pronacampo9 (talk) 19:41, 21 January 2015 (UTC))

On deleted pages[edit]

Thanks for explaining. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mylittlebirdies (talkcontribs) 21:48, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

Odd reversion?[edit]

Hi—I don't really understand your reversion of [my edit here], as I'd never edit other people's reference entries. Any report that I'd done so would be an error (bug?). – AndyFielding (talk)

@AndyFielding: I assume that was an accident of yours. In your edit, you had not only changed "she" into "McCartney", but also duplicated a lot of stuff at the end of the page. If you look at the total effect of your edit and mine, you'll find I only removed that duplicate stuff at the end, but left "McCartney" (I didn't revert all of your edit, despite the edit summary). Huon (talk) 20:23, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

Help With Todd Kerns Musician Page[edit]

Thank you for your assistance. Knowing where the incorrect information was coming from will help in getting the Birthday corrected. I really appreciate it! — Preceding unsigned comment added by NJY1976 (talkcontribs) 18:40, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

ANI notice[edit]

Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 15:41, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for your help![edit]

Thank you for your help with editing the Tierra de Reyes page. I wish it didn't require third party intervention. It was never my intention to start an edit war, but all information I entered was immediately deleted despite proper citations, correcting English grammar errors, and adding more useful information. Once our bans were lifted the other user, once again, began deleting all my entered information so I'm done with Wikipedia. I don't know how you have the patience to stay at it but I'm glad that you're in there helping people and helping get good articles written. As a professional writer and editor I can tell you got the chops for it from looking at some of your other work. I hope you're working in the field, you'd be a great line editor at any firm!MJDecker (talk) 18:03, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

RS and first-party sources and MP3 Rocket[edit]

Apropos "reliable third-party sources" and this edit of yours - IIRC, reliable first-party sources are fine when it comes to verifiability of stuff about themselves - like in this case. That's policy, IIRC. So what policy justifies you removing them?--Elvey(tc) 05:11, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

I'll reply at the article's talk page. Huon (talk) 13:00, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

Daniel O'Keeffe (judge)[edit]

Thank you for your help! Ballyeagh (talk) 18:43, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

a week has passed and no one objected[edit]

see User talk:Dannis243 Dannis243 (talk) 12:13, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

I have implemented the changes; now Party of the Swedes looks exactly the way User:Huon/Test does. Huon (talk) 20:48, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

27January - Technical Assistance[edit]

Morning, Huon! Yes, indeed, I hit another snag – or rather, several ones at once:

  1. went live yesterday but google cannot really ‘find’ it, or, at best, it is a 'hit-and-miss' with my Pronacampo9 (identical) Test page
  2. Lakun.patra left a message saying, as you can see, that the article is an orphan re: This article is an orphan, as no other articles link to it. Please introduce links to this page from related articles; try the Find link tool for suggestions. (January 2015) I spent a long time reading a number of ‘how to link’ Wikipedia advisory pages but was not able to act on them. I sent an email to Lakun telling him about the 3 other wiki.en articles, but did not get a reply.
  3. I just got an Disambiguation notice from DPL bot, saying that Hi. Thank you for your recent edits. Wikipedia appreciates your help. We noticed though that when you edited Cultural-Historical Activity Theory (CHAT), you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page Michael Cole (check to confirm | fix with Dab solver). Such links are almost always unintended, since a disambiguation page is merely a list of "Did you mean..." article titles. Read the FAQ • Join us at the DPL WikiProject. It's OK to remove this message. Also, to stop receiving these messages, follow these opt-out instructions. Thanks, DPL bot (talk) 08:59, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Q: All three questions are, really, a bit too technical for me and even if I deal with them, I may mess up. I suppose that the google search problem has to do with google resetting its alogarithms, but not sure. So, your guidance would, yet again, be extremely well appreciated in all those three instances. (Pronacampo9 (talk) 09:42, 27 January 2015 (UTC))

PS: re: previous
The 'Disambiguation' problem pointed at by the bot concerns === Developments in the West === section in the article (which starts with [Michael Cole] between (double) square brackets, which, indeed, leads to a Michael Cole disambiguation page and, a bit to my surprise 'our' (professor Cole) does not, as I had thought he had, a dedicated wikipedia page, but now I discover that this appears not to be the case. So, I am removing the square brackets and will find some other hyperlink to the Michael Cole's name of the article to. The 'orphan' question, however, is a tougher nut to crack and the wiki 'help' pages on this matter read a bit like high Mandarin to me (!) (Pronacampo9 (talk) 10:10, 27 January 2015 (UTC))
PPSS: I have now hyperlinked Michael Cole differently
re: === Developments in the West ===
Michael Cole, then a young Indiana University (Pronacampo9 (talk) 10:23, 27 January 2015 (UTC))
PPPSSS': Explanation: I had planned to 'sit on the fence' and 'brood' on the CHAT article for quite a bit longer. What prompted me to act, though, was the thought that, as long as the "Cultural Historical Activity Theory (CHAT)" Title remains 'open' it also remains 'open season' in wikiland, iow, anyone at any time is free to claim the as yet 'unoccupied' wikipedia title and start another article under precisely that heading. That would, in one stroke, invalidate months of hard-slogging work. So, publishing was in some ways a measure of 'self-defence'. (Pronacampo9 (talk) 10:44, 27 January 2015 (UTC))
20:20hrs Tuesday - Thank you for your intervention, Huon. From which I deduce that some possibly procedurially improper shortcuts were taken. Though this was the way I was shown by the Spanish wiki bibliotecario to go about it. It is a very long text, so I will leave it till tomorrow and go through it again with the fine-tooth comb. And then press the green button. . .and see what happens! Thanks again. (Pronacampo9 (talk) 20:28, 27 January 2015 (UTC))
20:50 - just before turning in I changed my mind. After fixing the Michael Cole anomaly which the bot had picked up earlier, I thought it might be better to press the green button regardless, and see what really happens. I went through the text countless times and at best can only pick up a few tiddling typos. While there may be major issues which I only will know about by pressing the green release button. So, here we go. (Pronacampo9 (talk) 20:55, 27 January 2015 (UTC))
done: Ah, I remember now. . . - I got my yellow box. After my excursion into wiki:es I had rather forgotten about wiki:en etiquette. Sorry. (Pronacampo9 (talk) 21:03, 27 January 2015 (UTC))
Sorry, we're working at cross-purposes here, and I'm too slow at explaining what I do. I'll revert the submission in a moment; the {{userspace draft}} template I added was meant to serve an entirely different purpose. Full explanations on your talk page when I find the time, ie within a few hours - I'm doing other things on the side. Huon (talk) 22:27, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

28 January chat about CHAT[edit]

Thank you soooo much for your time Huon – no need telling me how time-consuming all this is! It looks indeed that, last night, we were synchronically distance-editing on the same page, thus cross-purposely frustrating each other’s efforts. Sorry.

  1. I am not an orphan any more. Which is worth a mini-celebration!
  2. Michael Cole is already hyperlinked in the introductory section re: The term CHAT was coined by Michael Cole<ref>{{harvnb|Cole|1996|page=105}}</ref> and popularized by Yrjö. I had forgotten that, further down in the text, I had placed Cole between double square brackets, thus landing me in Disambiguation territory. Further down, in the ==Developments in West== section, I see that the Cole (repeat) hyperlink has been replaced by [Michael Cole (psychologist)|Michael Cole]]. However, this results in a (inauthentic looking) ‘red’ tab. I hope you do not mind I (temporarily) removed all links, leaving us with a ‘plain’ Cole. In the hope that we find a thoroughbred ‘blue’ tab. (PS: I wrote this before I read your explanation on this specific issue - see further down here nr 8. (cross-purposes, again!).
  3. I see that in Large Group Capacitation the caption namely the Cultural-Historical Activity Theory (CHAT)-based branch of Social Psychology,[44], now links to the new wiki article. Thanks for this. I am planning, in the next few days, to skim through other wiki articles to find similar links, starting with the ==See Also==section of the LGCapacitation article (which, I trust, will get me out of the “Orphanage” for good). (PS: more comment on this here further down nr 7.)
  4. re: (→‎External links: remove submission template: Article is live already) Thanks for this, too – I already heard a Laurel&Hardy “Now, that’s a fine mess you got us in” coming. (Apart from saving us the regular “three weeks plus” waiting time. . .).
  5. I see that google is still straining to find it, but, as you say, things can only get better in the future (re: then soon the live article will be the only one to be found).
  6. Thank you for saving me from that editorial bear pit (re: "we already have a live article; please edit that instead").
  7. Links added to CHAT to the Large Group Capacitation and Laboratory of Comparative Human Cognition (LCHC) articles. (re: maybe you can take a look and find a better place within those articles where CHAT should be mentioned (and linked)?: A: Yes, this will keep me out of mischief for the next couple of days.
  8. Anyway, the red link is a sign for readers: "Notable topic here that an article could be written about!" – Oops: see supra. I already had removed the red marker before I read this. Sorry. And now I have lost the red link!. Anyhow, for readers really interested in Cole, he is already hyperlinked in the Introduction section. I will insert the relevant wiki link whenever the huon article comes of the conveyer belt!
  9. Now, what can I say or do?: after I have already toasted you to a Duvel on this same page, I can assure you that Grimbergen is the best of the best. Highly recommended. Gezondheid! (Pronacampo9 (talk) 10:24, 28 January 2015 (UTC))
29 January: I have been adding links and have received a couple of thankyou's from authors of other sites. Querying google this morning "Cultural-Historical Activity Theory (CHAT)" (placed between quotation marks), is now listed third: progress - google seems to be catching up. (Pronacampo9 (talk) 10:01, 29 January 2015 (UTC))
Thanks from me, too, for adding those links! It's nice to see Google getting things right, too, though that's usually something that simply happens over time without any input from us - Google likes Wikipedia, and it tends to list our articles rather highly. Huon (talk) 20:08, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

Please give us your reason for deleting our wikipedia page[edit]

Hello Huon,

How are you?

This is kashif. I created one page name Rahul N Anushka some days ago. I guess you deleted that page.

In support of our page i am typing some references here

" Reference about rahul-and-anushka "],, Information about Rahul and Anushka.

“Reference about rahul-and-anushka"], [[Reference about rahul-and-anushka ]], Information about Rahul and Anushka.

" Reference about rahul-and-anushka "], Reference about rahul-and-anushka, Information about Rahul and Anushka.

Thank you for your feedback.Can you please tell us reason why you delete our page Rahul N Anushka. We are trying to create and upload content from a neutral perspective about a designer label. This is similar to existing content and pages about other Indian designers such as Ritu Kumar, Manish Malhotra and others.

Some example links of other Indian designers: (Manish Malhotra) (Ritu Kumar)

Kind check above links, compare and guide us on how we can modify the content so that it is accepted like the other designers pages shared.

Look forward to your mail and support

@Atmarketindia: There are a couple of problems here. Let's start with those that led to the article's deletion (and for which, by the way, I'll also delete your draft, which is virtually identical to the deleted article): The content is unduly promotional and reads like something straight from Rahul n Anushka's PR agency, not like an encyclopedia article. In fact, you have been warned about that before, and yet you write something like, "It fast gained universal appeal as a vibrant and youthful brand offering a bold and confident line of Club, Cocktail & Luxury prêt for the modern woman", seriously? If it has gained universal appeal, where are the articles in Vogue and Elle about this brand? Of your three "references about rahul-and-anushka" given above, NJAL rather obviously is not a reliable source; it looks more like self-published content. The other two do not so much as mention "Rahul n Anushka", and even assuming the Londonist's comment about "RNA" is about them, there's no useful content that would help us write an encyclopedia article about them. I can only echo User:Tokyogirl79's comment that I'm concerned you're only here to promote Rahul n Anushka, not to improve the encyclopedia. As an aside, while other problematic articles would not be an excuse to write more of the same, take Ritu Kumar: "Ritu Kumar to win the Padma Shri - Times Of India" - reliable third-party coverage that expliciltly focuses on Kumar and incidentally confirms that she really is honored for her skill, not just vacuous spam. That on its own makes for an article far superior to your draft. Huon (talk) 20:08, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Peter Prior (Gulumba) has been accepted[edit]

Peter Prior (Gulumba), which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.
The article has been assessed as Redirect-Class, which is recorded on the article's talk page. You may like to take a look at the grading scheme to see how you can improve the article.

You are more than welcome to continue making quality contributions to Wikipedia. Note that because you are a logged-in user, you can create articles yourself, and don't have to post a request. However, you may continue submitting work to Articles for Creation if you prefer.

Thank you for helping improve Wikipedia!

DGG ( talk ) 13:39, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

Someone You just block is going around it.[edit]

Hey Huon,The IP you previously blocked User talk: is now editing under User talk:Task Force Tagger.I have previously had to deal with the string of User:Wild Wolf puppets and appreciate any help. --Molestash (talk) 02:36, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

Adjusting pilot start date - WP:Co-op[edit]

CO-OP Logo 2.png

Hello Huon,

I'll be putting out a formal update sometime soon, but I wanted to inform you that I've decided to push our start date back to mid-February rather than in January. There are number of reasons for this, but the biggest factor is that we are now facing the hard work of implementing our designs on the Mediawiki interface. It's a limiting environment to work with from a web-building perspective, and the team that worked on the Teahouse can offer similar testimonials to these challenges. We also want to make sure there is time for us and for you to test the environment out, ask questions at our project's talk page, and give us a little time to make any last changes before we start inviting editors to the space. If some of you know you will be unavailable during this time, it's totally fine if you need to bow out for the pilot. But we do need all the mentors we can get, so even if you can take the time to mentor just one or two editors, that would be fantastic.
Thanks a bunch, I, JethroBT drop me a line on behalf of Wikipedia:Co-op.

(Opt-out Instructions) This message was send by Jim Carter through MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 08:47, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

Some bubble tea for you![edit]

Bubble Tea.png Cheers to see you again! JustBerry (talk) 16:07, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

see User talk:Dannis243 (thank you but the other problem still persists)[edit]

thank you for fixing the form of the result boxex and it seems to be working on Party of the Swedes but while the form is fixed on other political party articles the distance between boxex is still abnormal on other political party articles, can you please make all "infobox political party" like User:Huon/Test because it was like actually like that before december 2014 Dannis243 (talk) 16:52, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

No, I can't, for three reasons. Firstly, you once again are so vague in your description of the problem that I have no chance at all of determining what you dislike, much less of fixing it. Secondly, I have modified the infobox template, and it work the same on all pages. The distance between boxes does not change from one article to the next. Thirdly, you yourself reverted the changes of December and were unhappy with the result of that reversal. I have no idea what mythical state the template supposedly had before December, but it appears you're not happy with that state, either. I had almost suspected that implementing the changes you had explicitly said would give the layout you wanted would not satisfy you. I'm done with this issue; it's hardly severe enough a problem to waste time and resources on. Huon (talk) 17:15, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

Edit request or Article removal request[edit]

Can you please protect the article Or edit with the website as you already discussed in the talk page? I think it could be better to be protected or erased, since the war edit remainsRamdiesel (talk) 17:00, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

Currently no website is given in the article. Given the disputes about what is the official website (and why would the official website on a Costa Rican university or business school use a .pl domain?) that may be for the best. Huon (talk) 17:59, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

Wignulight93 sock[edit]

You declined an appeal of a two week block here because the account was a Wiglunight93 sock. But shouldn't that mean the two week block of that account is converted to an indef? DeCausa (talk) 20:42, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

Yes, and Salvidrim said they'd do so later tonight. In fact, I assumed the block was already indef. Huon (talk) 20:46, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
OK, thanks. I see you've now done the indeffing - thanks. DeCausa (talk) 21:07, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
Can you tell if User:Sabot Cat is another of these socks? This user only began editing after these socks were blocked, and is reverting to the edits of the blocked sock on the Israel article. Gouncbeatduke (talk) 22:23, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
Just going by the edits, I'd guess "no". User:Sabot Cat's edits are about whether or not Israel is a representative democracy, which doesn't seem in the least related to the parts of the article Ashurbanippal edited. Also, Sabot Cat is far older than the Ashurbanippal account, and I don't think the editing patterns match, either. Huon (talk) 00:23, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
Hi, Sabot Cat here. I just wanted to put in reliable sources for the claim that Israel is a representative democracy to resolve the dispute, and I think that's what WP:AD procedure is, unless there's more rules for this elsewhere, and if so my apologies for being in potential violation of them. Sabot Cat (talk) 01:06, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for your help with the Calico Jack page![edit]

I appreciate your fixing the birth and death dates. When I first read the page, the death date was "january 16, 2003" so I felt urged to fix it. Unfortunately, I wasn't familiar with the formula. Thanks again!

June w (talk) 13:01, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

You're welcome. Usually the template pages, such as Template:Death date and age, have some documentation on how to use the parameters. Huon (talk) 13:06, 1 February 2015 (UTC)