User talk:IFreedom1212

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Double vote[edit]

Did you vote twice on Chelsea Manning? Pass a Method talk 20:16, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

Edit conflict[edit]

Hi IFreedom1212. Please be careful that when you add comments to a talk page that you do not remove others' comments. With this edit you removed Bob K31416's recent addition to the page. I've restored it. Thanks. Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 01:55, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

  • My mistake. That was not intentional. Thank you for fixing it. IFreedom1212 (talk) 02:02, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

You did it again with Knowledgekid87's comment in this edit you made. I've fixed that one too. Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 02:22, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

  • How am I missing these? IFreedom1212 (talk) 02:27, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
    • When you hit "save page", when this happens there ought to be a warning screen titled "Edit conflict" that appears instead of letting you immediately save the page. If that's not happening, maybe there's something screwy with the MediaWiki software, which I've heard sometimes will happen on a page that is very busy with lots of edits in a short period of time. Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 03:03, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
    • I see that every now and then but I always try to correct the discrepancies. I'll keep an eye out for it but perhaps MediaWiki isn't catching all of them. IFreedom1212 (talk) 03:12, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

Rhetoric softening[edit]

Rather than saying things like "I will continue to refer to him as a male as long as he has a dick and a Y chromosome", can you in the future (or even edit that comment now) phrase your opinion in a way that your opponents won't cherry-pick as an insult and ignore the opposition itself? It just gives them ammo for the "you're transphobic!" accusations. If that is actually your opinion, that's fine (though effective opposition to this needs to be grounded in Wikipedia policy as well), but perhaps consider phrasing it like "As long as he is physiological male, I will refer to him as he" or somesuch. Tarc (talk) 13:23, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

I see what you're saying but it does not seem necessary. My stern responses are, at least in my opinion, not as crass as those who demand I call Bradley a "she." I wrote that in such a way so that it would come off as something to the effect of "not only will I continue to refer to him by male pronouns, but how dare you ask me to do otherwise" or something like that. IFreedom1212 (talk) 01:22, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

RFAR:Manning naming dispute - Formally added as party[edit]

The drafting arbitrators have requested that you be formally added as a party to the Manning naming dispute case. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Manning naming dispute/Evidence. You can also contribute to the case workshop subpage, Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Manning naming dispute/Workshop. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration.

For the Arbitration Committee,

Seddon talk 18:35, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

So...[edit]

You're my prison mate, eh? Hitmonchan (talk) 07:25, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

You have been named in a proposed ArbCom decision[edit]

Hi, IFreedom1212. In the open Manning naming dispute case, a decision has been proposed which relates to you. The Arbitration Committee is voting on the proposals, and discussion is taking place on the talk page. If you have any comments or concerns, you should respond at the talk page. For the Arbitration Committee, Rschen7754 05:13, 9 October 2013 (UTC).

Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Manning naming dispute closed[edit]

This arbitration case has been closed and the final decision is available at the link above. The following remedies have been enacted:

  1. Hitmonchan (talk · contribs) is indefinitely topic-banned from all pages relating to any transgender topic or individual, broadly construed.
  2. IFreedom1212 (talk · contribs) is indefinitely topic-banned from all pages relating to any transgender topic or individual, broadly construed.
  3. Tarc (talk · contribs) is indefinitely topic-banned from all pages relating to any transgender topic or individual, broadly construed.
  4. Josh Gorand (talk · contribs) is indefinitely topic-banned from all pages relating to any transgender topic or individual, broadly construed.
  5. Baseball Bugs (talk · contribs) is indefinitely topic-banned from all pages relating to any transgender topic or individual, broadly construed. He is also topic banned from all pages (including biographies) related to leaks of classified information, broadly construed.
  6. David Gerard (talk · contribs) is admonished for acting in a manner incompatible with the community's expectations of administrators (see #David Gerard's use of tools).
  7. David Gerard (talk · contribs) is indefinitely prohibited from using his administrator permissions (i) on pages relating to transgender people or issues and (ii) in situations involving such pages. This restriction may be first appealed after six months have elapsed, and every six months thereafter.
  8. The standard discretionary sanctions adopted in Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Sexology for (among other things) "all articles dealing with transgender issues" remain in force. For the avoidance of doubt, these discretionary sanctions apply to any dispute regarding the proper article title, pronoun usage, or other manner of referring to any individual known to be or self-identifying as transgender, including but not limited to Chelsea/Bradley Manning. Any sanctions imposed should be logged at the Sexology case, not this one.
  9. All editors, especially those whose behavior was subject to a finding in this case, are reminded to maintain decorum and civility when engaged in discussions on Wikipedia, and to avoid commentary that demeans any other person, intentionally or not.

For the Arbitration Committee, Rschen7754 01:34, 16 October 2013 (UTC)