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PS I did need to restore the wikipedia tags you removed from Rasul Bux Palejo; as you'll see from the policies above, the article still needs proofreading, work on an encyclopedic tone, and inline citations so we can verify the information is from reliable sources. Please leave the tags in place until then, and just let me know if you have any questions-- Khazar (talk) 16:25, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

Karachi neighborhoods[edit]

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Re: Karachi modification[edit]

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Punjabi/Sindhi order[edit]

Is there any specific reason why you are swapping the order of Punjabi and Sindhi when both terms appear in a sentence? You seem to be trying always to place Sindhi before Punjabi. It makes no sense to me at all. - Sitush (talk) 18:10, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

Sindh is a province of Pakistan, entire cities of Sindh are densely populated with Sindhis, Karachi is mixed, but if we get deep into historical background, Muhajirs are largest in population, and if you think Punjabi constitute provincial settlement in Sindhi then you are wrong, but if you say on some basis Punjabi should be second anyhow, then Pashtuns are second largest in population in Karachi. In-fact I think we should not all add these ethnics there. Check cities of Punjab, if you could find mention of ethnics like Pashtun, Muhajir etc. Please check and then reply me back. It has nothing to do with anything, Punjabis are my friends and I would also like the same for cities in Punjab, to put Punjabis at first, then Pashtuns. (Indusengineer (talk) 18:22, 25 January 2012 (UTC))

None of that is a reason to move Sindhi in front of Punjabi. You have absolutely no way of verifying which ethnic group is more numerous than any other because there has been no such census since 1931. The easiest, fairest way to deal with such lists is to put them in alphabetical order. - Sitush (talk) 20:01, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
Actually, sorry, I was in "India mode" above. You are referring to Pakistan. Can you show me some numbers, please. - Sitush (talk) 20:03, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
Which numbers, brother? Please explain, so I may reply back (Indusengineer (talk) 20:12, 25 January 2012 (UTC))
Ok got it, yeah alphabetical-order is good, but in-fact there should be no mention of ethnics at all, as there is no mention of ethnics in other biggest cities like Lahore, Faisalabad, Rawalpindi, Islamabad, Peshawar, Quetta, etc. Only cities in Sindh have been given such ethnics. I come from Sindh, I would love to show world accurate information and knowledge about my province, why would I try to malign beauty of my province, it is taken totally in negative way, by most of people down here. Thank you for pointing me out!

Not sure I follow[edit]

Hi there. I noticed you were editing articles about districts in Pakistan, and in general I assume you know what you were doing so I just left it, and was happy to remove pages from my watch list. However, I'm not really sure about edits like this one and since you are not supplying an edit summary I'm left in the dark. Why did you remove the year of establishment from the infobox? It seems to be in the article body with a source. I presume you removed the Nazim since Syed Muhammad Ali Shah Jamot is no longer the Nazim, but who is? Why not add the new one instead? As a side note, I think talukhas should not be capitalized. Thanks in advance for clarifying these matters. --Muhandes (talk) 09:10, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

Hello, Thank you for pointing me out, and considering reviewing article recently edited by me. Brother, District Government was launched by former President Gen: Pervez Musharraf, he had appointed 'Nazim' (Mayor) on basis of establishing 'Local Government' system, Nazims were in charge of each district in Pakistan. This form of Local Government was abolished after elections of 2008, in which political parties, abolished country-wide Local-Government, and reverted back to Commissioner of District in charge of district-wise responsibilities. Please read this, Commissionerate System Restored in Sindh and this. Please update the section, Thanks! (Indusengineer (talk) 09:37, 26 January 2012 (UTC))
As I said, I assumed you know what you were doing. I think such system wide action could have been discussed at WT:PAK first, but frankly, I don't care enough if you just do it and see if anyone cares. It would help if you added an edit summary, something in the form of "removing outdated information". Anyway, why did you remove the establishment date? --Muhandes (talk) 14:47, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
It was aimless to let 'establishment date' there, since previous form of government was restored, earlier than 2000, when Local-Body government was introduced/established. Thanks for asking me this. (Indusengineer (talk) 15:15, 26 January 2012 (UTC))
Are you saying that the district no longer exists? If so, the article should reflect this with a proper reliable source, since my understanding was that districts still exist, they are just not locally governed. Am I understanding this corrrectly? Side note - why do you keep removing the section heading of the next section, thus mixing up the two discussions? --Muhandes (talk) 16:16, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
No brother, districts do exist, I was referring to the title of form of government that was introduced by former President Gen. Pervez Musharraf. He discontinued 'Commissionerate' form of government (the issues of district were handled by Commissioner of Police), thus he (Musharraf) introduced new system and called it 'Local Body Government', which was abolished by current government recently, and restored 'Commissionerate' (District Commissioner Officer). Thank you for discussing it with me, and expanding my information. Sorry for removing headings brother. (Indusengineer (talk) 18:57, 26 January 2012 (UTC))
I think we have a misunderstanding. I was asking why you removed the date of establishment from the infobox at Matiari District, as it still seems valid, no matter what the current situation is. If you don't mind, I will simply remove it, and wish you well in continuing to improve Wikipedia. Best regards. --Muhandes (talk) 20:00, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
Thank you brother for informing me! (Indusengineer (talk) 20:08, 27 January 2012 (UTC))

Copyright violations[edit]

Are you clear on this now? Besides the text, I also deleted the image you uploaded as it was copied from a web page. Dougweller (talk) 10:37, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

Brother, please inform me more so I can best follow the rules, thank you for informing me, I also checked few times back. Thank you for your help, do reply back!
When you use sources, don't copy them, and make sure that what you write is clearly very different from the source. You can't just make a few changes. Don't upload images you find on the web unless it is stated that they are copyright free and then make sure that you add the appropriate tags to the image. Unless something says it is copyright free we assume it is within copyright in most cases. Thanks. Dougweller (talk) 10:54, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
Thank you very much for your efforts, I try from now on to keep strong check-and-balance on source. Thank you brother for lookout! (Indusengineer (talk) 10:55, 26 January 2012 (UTC))

Naudero[edit]

[1] - some good changes, some bad. Changing "Father of the Nuclear programme" to " founding-father of nuclear programe" is not good - getting rid of the caps was good, but taking an 'm' out of programme and removing the 'the', plus the hyphen in 'founding-father', not good. You've capitalised some proper names, good, but Guar canal wouldn't be Gaur-Canal, why the hyphen? As it appears the article uses British English, 'centre' was correct, not 'center'. 'head-quarter' was wrong, but it should be headquarters, not headquarter. Spelled and spelt are both correct but as the article uses British English spelt should have been left. Dougweller (talk) 15:18, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

I'm really sorry to trouble you brother, that was not my intent, I actually know about British and American spelling, but I thought Wikipedia was following U.S. English. Once again I really appreciate your time brother for keeping an eye on the movement. I should be careful, always appreciate your help brother. (Indusengineer (talk) 19:00, 26 January 2012 (UTC))
It depends upon the articles, see WP:ENGVAR. Dougweller (talk) 19:38, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
Thank you brother for providing this informative article on English versions. I appreciate your help, thank you brother!! (Indusengineer (talk) 20:07, 26 January 2012 (UTC))

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May 2012[edit]

Regarding Images of the Prophet[edit]

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Also please read Talk:Muhammad/FAQ to understand why those images will not be removed. And you may also want to look at Depictions of Muhammad. The prohibition against images of Muhammad is not universal among Muslims (in fact, depictions are quite common in Iranian households). ~Amatulić (talk) 16:04, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
Alright Peter Deer, thanks for reply. Indusengineer (talk) 11:43, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
Amatulic, those depictions in Iran, are not of Holy Prophet Muhammad PBUH, but son-in-law of Holy Prophet, named Ali; because Iran is a Shia state, who are actually followers of Ali (remember, this is sensitive issue and it is universal among Muslims to not depict Holy Prophet PBUH, you may watch opening lines in famous film [[2]]. Anyways, thanks for reply Indusengineer (talk) 11:43, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
Actually, I have seen several account of Iranian families having images of the Holy Prophet, not his son in law, in their homes. Such images are common among Shia (see this article on devotional images for example). I have also seen (and I wish I could find the reference) a Sunni interpretation that Muslims are forbidden to create such depictions but not forbidden to view them. Furthermore, please read depictions of Muhammad and you will find that the prohibition is not universal among Muslims. It is especially telling that scholars believe those ancient depictions currently in the Muhammad article were created by Muslims. ~Amatulić (talk) 16:52, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
Iranians alone don't interpret entire Muslim Ummah. Plus, few families don't represent the entire Muslim Ummah. I cannot take for granted, what you have seen. But, I believe what you are trying to say, that Sunni are forbidden to create such depiction, but not forbidden to view them; however when Islam forbids to create images of Holy Prophet, it voluntarily, applies not to view them (this does not mean that Muslims are never to think about the Prophet Muhammad PBUH; as seeing Him in dreams, is considered blessings among Muslim Ummah; however it is all for the sake of not imagining a Holy personality, that Muslims regard so highest). It may not be universal, it can be based upon sects present in Islam, Wahhabi and Ahmadiyya sects have got such belief about Prophet Muhammad PBUH. Thank you brother for clearing it Indusengineer (talk) 20:20, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

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