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October 2014[edit]

The Signpost: 01 October 2014[edit]

ANI[edit]

Hi Innotata, the nomination of your articles is obviously designed to be pointy. I've asked for uninvolved administrators to consider them collectively at ANI in this thread. Stlwart111 07:59, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

The Signpost: 08 October 2014[edit]

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Animal anatomy project[edit]

I'm concerned by your abrupt exit from the discussion on the animal anatomy project. Was something said there that offended you? --Epipelagic (talk) 07:19, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

No, no. I don't care whether it's a project or a task force or whatever. —innotata 14:13, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

Bad Move for Joseph F Ware Jr[edit]

Hello Innotata,

I noticed that in September you moved Joseph F Ware Jr page to Joseph F. Ware, Jr.

Your punctuation is correct, but the move does not allow a link to work with Gmail. When sending the link to someone, gmail's system is leaving the period off at the end of the the link, and as a result, Wikipedia then says the page does not exist.

I originally put up the page without the punctuation for a reason, and unless systems are changing that require the changes, it needs to be unpunctuated so that gmail references/hyperlinks work.

ALSO

Is there a way to email you or someone here without making a public post of it? Thank you.

Almhath — Preceding unsigned comment added by Almhath (talkcontribs) 15:49, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

There shouldn't be any problem with linking the page in Gmail. If pasting the link in doesn't work, you can also use the article's old title, which redirects to the current title. —innotata 16:20, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

The Signpost: 15 October 2014[edit]

Plural disambiguation pages.[edit]

Thanks for your input in these move discussions. If you are interested, User:RussBot/Plural dab pages/001 contains a long list of disambiguation pages that should potentially be moved to make way for redirects to the singular primary topic. Please feel free to propose WP:PLURALPT moves for any of those (but please note on that project page if you do). Cheers! bd2412 T 20:18, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

Closes for plurals[edit]

As a non-admin closer, you should consider reverting your close at Talk:Blades (disambiguation). It was not unopposed, and you have subsequently shown that you have strong opinions on the interpretation of WP:PLURALPT, by commenting in several similar RMs. There's certainly no reason why you can't participate in the discussions, but it does show that you have an opinion, which goes against Wikipedia:Requested_moves/Closing_instructions#Non-admin_closure, which says: "Non-administrators are reminded that closing a discussion calls for an impartial assessment of consensus or lack of consensus ... Any editor wishing to express an opinion on the requested move should join the discussion, not close it." Thanks for your consideration. Dohn joe (talk) 23:46, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

I didn't have any opinion on this case at the time and still don't, and since I started commenting on different cases of disambiguations for plurals, I've only moved uncontroversial (unopposed) cases. My closure probably was reasonable, since it was based on the consensus and more policy-related arguments. Bring this up at WP:MR if you really disagree. (Anyway, as a non-admin, I can't revert my edits.) —innotata 23:52, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

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The Bugle: Issue CIII, October 2014[edit]

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The Bugle: Issue CIII, October 2014, Redux[edit]

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DYK nomination of Cornelis Hazevoet[edit]

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DYK for Theora mesopotamica[edit]

PanydThe muffin is not subtle 00:58, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

Reviewing Farris article[edit]

Thanks for reviewing the article on John Lauchlan Farris. Just wondered if you had any comments on it? Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 03:26, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

Not really, reviewing it just meant I marked it as not having any major issues, which needs to be done with all articles relatively new users create. I mean, it could be expanded further and use better sources if possible, etc., but that's true of most Wikipedia articles ;) —innotata 05:13, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

Thank you![edit]

Dear Innotata,

As a new contributor, I want to thank you for being so friendly and welcoming. I had heard a lot about how contentious Wikipedia edits (and editors can be) so I appreciate your contribution to changing that reputation. It matters. I will read the intro section you recommended. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stone Lantern Two (talkcontribs) 00:42, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

@Stone Lantern Two: Well, there definitely is plenty of contention ;) but actually there's a lot more collaboration, at least from what I've seen. You're welcome, and hope you enjoy contributing! —innotata 02:10, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

The Signpost: 22 October 2014[edit]

DYK for Cornelis Hazevoet[edit]

HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 12:02, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Momoko Kuroda[edit]

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Fort Nikolaevskaia[edit]

DYK nomination of Fort Nikolaevskaia[edit]

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Momoko Kuroda[edit]

Hello, Innotata. I apologize for not responding immediately to your (and Yoninah's) comments/edits to my Momoko Kuroda post. I am still learning how to use the Wikipedia contribution system. I can add a link to another item that cites Momoko's bio, but I am afraid that there is very little written about her in English. Most of the citations are in Japanese. Still, I will see what I can do. Is it okay to cite a Japanese language article or book in an English language page?

Also, (until I figure out how to respond to Yoninah's edit regarding the link), the characters in Momoko's name is not momo=peach, but momo=apricot. It is an unusual Chinese character for Momoko, usually pronounced "anzu" but "momo" is a variant pronunciation. Anyway, the distinction is important so when I figure out how to edit a wiki text, I will try to add that comment next to Momoko's name.

Stone Lantern Two (talk) 23:58, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

@Stone Lantern Two: Yes, those edits definitely helped, and the editor who was reviewing also helped by citing some sources and formatting and expanding the article. It's definitely OK to cite Japanese (or any non-English) sources! We do that all the time; as long as it's a good source, language is not an issue. If you've got any information that's only in Japanese sources that you were wanting to add, you really should add it to the article. —innotata 00:09, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
@Innotata: Okay, I will do that. Thank you.Stone Lantern Two (talk) 00:32, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Luxembourg and the United Nations[edit]

PanydThe muffin is not subtle 12:02, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

Page moves[edit]

Hi, I'm not saying that you should revert your move of Vijay Kumar Singh to V. K. Singh but I think you ought to be made aware of the fact that Indian names can often end up being disambiguated many times over and that the chances of that happening increase if initials are used rather than full names. You may already know this and, yes, redirects can be done in either direction, but past discussions at the India project have, IIRC, tended to favour using full names despite COMMONNAME, which might well be considered a policy that enshrines an element of systemic bias. It's a while since and I'm not in a position to do the searches right now but if you are likely to consider moving other similarly-formatted Indian articles then it might be something to bear in mind.

Singh is a particularly obvious example because every single male Sikh bears the name; more generally, the caste system and its naming conventions tends to cause a multitude among a population of 1.2 billion, more so than say the number of Smiths. You could be unintentionally opening a real can of worms, although it looks as if that has not (yet) happened in the case of V.K.S.

My apologies if you know all of this: it is intended merely as a "heads-up". - Sitush (talk) 13:08, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

Yes, I'm quite aware. I'm just pretty sure V. K. Singh is appropriate per WP:COMMONNAME. He's also extremely likely to be the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for this name as a highly prominent general and now a foreign minister, so if disambiguation is needed moving the page back is an option, but creating a "V. K. Singh (disambiguation)" page is as well. —innotata 14:18, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

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Olympic marmot[edit]

Hi. I don't personally see Olympic marmot as being of FAC standard. I find it quite depressing looking at it and finding faults, and I guess you don't like it being criticised either. Looking at the article's history, I see it was worked on as part of a class project and it seems to me it contains many small inaccuracies, mis-statements, awkwardly-stated sentences etc, and lacks the polish I would expect in a FAC candidate nominated by a single author who has been improving it him or herself. I don't usually play much part at FAC but when I submit an article it seems only proper that I should review one or more others. Olympic Marmot seemed an obvious choice as it's an interesting subject and we had Rodent at FAC at the time. If I had looked at the article more carefully in advance I would not have chosen to review it because I prefer encouraging and supporting nominations and other editors to discouraging and opposing. And by the way, I have looked no further than the Ecology section at the moment and am not particularly keen to continue reviewing the rest of the article. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:38, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

You're right that I underestimated the problems with the article, but I'm not sure just yet that it isn't close to FA status. There was not so much incorrect information pointed out in your comments, as content that could be edited to be clearer, the section on pelage for example needed to be reordered more than anything else. —innotata 16:42, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

The Signpost: 29 October 2014[edit]

November 2014[edit]

DYK for Fort Nikolaevskaia[edit]

HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 00:03, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Anime and manga#RfC[edit]

You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Anime and manga#RfC. Thanks. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:52, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Momoko Kuroda[edit]

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:03, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Sikkim Scouts[edit]

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:04, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

If you need a ride to November 2014 edit-a-thon, I'd be happy to provide one[edit]

Hi, Innotata, I wasn't sure why your indication of interest in the November edit-a-thon noted that Maplewood doesn't work for you, but if that is strictly a question of transportation, feel free to let me know (I have email enabled on my Wikipedia account), and I would be happy to give you a ride if that helps. We haven't set a date or a place yet for the event, so I'm actually not entirely sure the event will fit my schedule, but if it does, I'd be glad to make it possible for you to join us, after seeing you at several previous local Wikipedia meet-ups. Email via my user page is the best channel for discussing what's feasible once the date and place of the edit-a-thon is locked in. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk, how I edit) 18:37, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

Thank you!! Yes, I'll email you if that might be helpful. —innotata 19:43, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

The Signpost: 05 November 2014[edit]

DYK for William Gill (sea captain)[edit]

HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 00:03, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

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DYK nomination of Roosevelt Protected Landscape[edit]

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DYK for Maude Delap[edit]

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DYK for Cumhurbaşkanlığı Sarayı[edit]

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The Signpost: 12 November 2014[edit]

DYK for Washington, D.C. Attorney General election, 2014[edit]

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The Bugle: Issue CIV, November 2014[edit]

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DYK for Robespierre Monument (Moscow)[edit]

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:22, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Francis Arthur Freeth[edit]

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:08, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

Ping! - Harrison B. Tordoff[edit]

Hi Innotata. I have raised a minor query at Template:Did you know nominations/Harrison B. Tordoff. Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 23:35, 25 November 2014 (UTC)