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Speedy deletion of LiMo[edit]

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LiMo Platform[edit]

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Eta Carinae[edit]

Hi. I have tagged the claim that Eta Car is the most massive star in the observable universe, another user removed it, but do you have a reliable source for that claim so it might be added again? Thanks. ~AH1(TCU) 21:41, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Chart, Mobile OS and native code[edit]

A suggestion: is there a summary page for Mobile OS's? If so, you might want to discuss the native code issue there, in a subsection. If not, you seem like a thoroughly responsible and appropriate person to create one. I'd contribute as I get time. For that matter, how is a mobile OS being defined in your chart? (Btw - I'm now assuming that you created it, which gives you some extra moral authority..) If it's handheld devices, then why isn't eg the PSP or that open src Taiwanese thing listed? If it's phones, then why is maemo there? What do archos devices use? Umptious (talk) 17:56, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

{{Table Mobile operating systems}} edit[edit]

Hi,

Another user has already expressed concern about the current version, and not only does it go against Wikipedia's convention on navigation templates, it also causes large and ugly gaps on certain browsers when it interacts with in-page {{ambox}}es. For this reason I believe the navbox version should remain. Please explain why the benefits outweigh the drawbacks - so far as I can see, the only benefit is an apparent personal aesthetic appeal over the first draught of the navbox version. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 17:07, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Just a reminder that you said you'd be back to write up an argument on this... Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 09:16, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Solar System[edit]

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Your recent edits[edit]

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Your recent edits[edit]

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Propofol[edit]

Please respect the discussion process. There is no consensus to support changing "Abuse" into anything at the moment—not into a term you prefer, not into a term I prefer. Until we (we as in everyone who is participating in the discussion) reach an agreement, please don't push change to the article's current wording. You're only laying the groundwork for an edit war. Fvasconcellos (t·c) 17:35, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

August 2009[edit]

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Cosmic Latte (talk) 21:15, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Stop hand nuvola.svg This is the only warning you will receive for your disruptive edits. If you vandalize Wikipedia again, as you did to Wikipedia:Manual of Style (medicine-related articles), you will be blocked from editing. From discussions on propofol article you know full well that off-label use is a specific designation of use within medicine, i.e. prescribing outside of guidelines etc. Please stop your POV vandalising and editing warring of highly important guidance articles on wikipedia. Literaturegeek | T@1k? 16:36, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

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Usurping titles[edit]

When you moved TV ONE to TV One (New Zealand), and then redirected the old title to the disambiguation page TV One, you perhaps overlooked this guideline, which advises that "it is strongly recommended that you modify all pages that link to the old title so they will link to the new title." You left several hundred pages about New Zealand television topics pointing to the disambiguation page. In future, if you wish to change the target of an existing title, please be sure to fix links as well. Thank you. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 14:32, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Android (mobile device platform)[edit]

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WP:ANI#Move reversal request for Solution stack / Software stack[edit]

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I have no opinion as to the actual article title but copy-and-paste moves like that violate the GFDL, as we lose the article history. I've reverted it for that reason. Use the move function if you'd like. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 19:27, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Reverted at Primary color[edit]

Since my talk page comments didn't catch your attention, I went ahead and reverted your rewrite of Primary color. If you think we need to change the definition, or call come uses incorrect, you'll need to provide sources to back up such a change. Dicklyon (talk) 08:51, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Modplug[edit]

I noticed you created the above article, and was wondering if you had any additional sources for a couple of articles I'm helping to work on (Eyetech and Warp3D) --Skamecrazy123 (talk) 04:20, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

Hi Meme, sorry to harp on about Notability, but I don't think that a seperate article on Modplug Player can be justfied based on the current amount of coverage presented. Per WP:PRODUCT, the article should be merged to a broader topic. My hunt for issue 113 of Computer Music magazine continues, although it looks like that if I dip into any issue, I will find some information on one tracker or another. Thanks, Marasmusine (talk) 07:54, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

Hi there! Heh, you sure keep a sharp eye out for edits. The reason I made a separate article for ModPlug Player was primarily to separate the content from the OpenMPT article. I'm not really bothered whether ModPlug Player has its own article or not, as long as the information isn't cluttering the OpenMPT article.
Having said that, the reference I provided for ModPlug Player states that it is a popular player for Windows. Isn't that proof of notability?
Another idea could be to have a separate article for the now deprecated ModPlug Tracker (which has been replaced by OpenMPT), and to include ModPlug Player in that.
See you round : ) InternetMeme (talk) 23:14, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
Linux journal is fine for verification, I'm just not sure the overall coverage is enough. Looks like it might belong in a "list of..." article instead, but I'll leave it for now. Marasmusine (talk) 07:57, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

Trackers[edit]

Hi InternetMeme, it occured to me at this AfD that several users are upset at my recent shake-up of the tracker articles - which is understandable of any topic that has a strong community. I've proposed starting a new wiki (I suggested Wikia) dedicated to tracker software, as I don't think one currently exists. This can be a repository for all the tracker related topics that are unsuitable for Wikipedia. What do you think? Marasmusine (talk) 07:54, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

Sounds perfect to me. Let's do it. InternetMeme (talk) 14:02, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

Hi again. Why are you removing citations to createdigitalmusic.com and marking it as a minor edit, without an edit comment? Marasmusine (talk) 10:55, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

Sorry about that, I have "minor edit" on by default and forgot to change it.

All the other trackers listed in the table have either a link to an article, or a reference; but not both. So I moved the reference into the article. Does that seem good to you? InternetMeme (talk) 11:07, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

Yes, thanks for the explanation. I didn't spot that it had its own article now. On a related note, the "Palm Sounds" blog doesn't meet WP:RS, so its possible that SunVox still isn't currently notable enough for a seperate article. But we'll se how it goes. Thanks, Marasmusine (talk) 12:01, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

Brig[edit]

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Contentious editing[edit]

Please don't make contentious edits, such as moving Brig to Brig (ship) when such edits are under discussion. Shem (talk) 16:53, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

System Shock[edit]

Citations aren't required in lead sections, per Wikipedia guidelines. Its influence on BioShock is discussed, with references, in the Legacy section. Please try to avoid snap judgments next time. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 22:55, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

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Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District[edit]

If you knew me, you'd know I don't assume good faith ever, but since I've not seen you in the creationist articles, I'll AGF for one revert. This edit completely changes the POV of the article from neutral to an anti-evolution bent. The school district wasn't sued (for the first time or ever) because of it's biology curriculum, but because they were trying to cram down the throats of the students a creationist dogma. Your edits made the Dover School District appear to be a bunch of innocents trying to teach a fake science. Further, among the many critical points about the lawsuit was that it was the first to attempt to block the teaching of Intelligent design as equivalent to evolution. Your original edits were regarding the date and location. It's there so many times as to blast you in the head. Your one line seemed like a throw in. So, I found it a tad disingenuous to describe your edit as moving around some dates and locations. It was much more than that, intentionally or unintentionally. OrangeMarlin Talk• Contributions 05:17, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Ah, the Orangeperson is blunt but does have a point, as indeed you had with the edit that's been reverted. Taking it to talk was good, I've had a look and made this change which responds to the issue you've raised. Trust all are now contented, or at least fairly contented :-/ . . dave souza, talk 18:58, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

.net is an platform ?[edit]

Hello InternetMeme, you are arguing here .NET Framework is a platform, comparable to java. Main focus is the language independence, unlike the java goal of platform independence. Platform difference to Java is the non-availability for multiple OS (linux, osx, bsd, etc), it is exclusively available for the windows platform (see article, even with the mono reimplementation it is debateable). Therefore I consider .net just a API or library extension to the windows api/platform (like directX) and not an platform by itself. cheers, Shaddim (talk) 11:25, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

push? please commentShaddim (talk) 20:40, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

I believe .net is a platform comparable to Java. To be a Windows program, something must use Win32.

InternetMeme (talk) 13:15, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

dot net uses the win32 api.... exclusively (unlike the java runtime engine which can run on other platforms/OSs too). Shaddim (talk) 09:55, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
Well, yes, obviously. Ultimately, everything running on Windows uses Win32, doesn't it? I'm talking about programs that use it directly, as opposed to using it via some other API, such as Java, MS.Net, etc.

InternetMeme (talk) 13:33, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

so the question is: Is dot net just a api extension to win32, like mfc or directX? i would say 'yes' for several reasons, all of them run (only) on top of win32 api, all of them are only available for the windows platform. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shaddim (talkcontribs) 06:50, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
I don't think it's right to give special favour to an API just because the creator refuses to port it to other operating systems; we shouldn't exclude (for example) Java, just because the creators of Java made the extra effort to make a version for Mac, Linux, etc.
I am fine with adding to the list software that works with MS.Net, provided we also add software that works with Java, Flash, etc.
Also, DirectX is different from MS.Net, as certain hardware features depend on it to work; there are things that are inaccessible via Win32 without using DirectX.
InternetMeme (talk) 18:38, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
exactly, thats the difference. java is careing about running on different OSs and hardware, therefore java can called a platform on it's own. dot net is not trying to be platform independend therefore it is only an extension to the win32 api for the windows platform. cheers 21:23, 12 July 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shaddim (talkcontribs)

October 2011[edit]

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Fallout 3 edit[edit]

Hi InternetMeme,

Concerning this edit, Sino is a common word to things relating to China. The study of China itself is in fact called Sinology.

Other examples:

Compare Anglo and not 'English', Franco and not 'French', Russo and not 'Russian'.

Happy editing, --Soetermans. T / C 10:39, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

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Steven Wright and Steven Wright (disambiguation)[edit]

I'm contesting your move of Steven Wright and your subsequent cut/paste of Steven Wright (disambiguation) to Steven Wright. There are only 2 articles about people called Steven Wright. One is the comedian, the other the baseball player Steven Wright (baseball). In the last 90 days the comedian has had 72957 views while the baseball player has had just 389. I think this shows that the comedian is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Any move should be discussed using the WP:RM procedure. Thanks. Tassedethe (talk) 17:07, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

That seems reasonable. I'm more concerned with the disambiguation between this and Stephen Wright, really. InternetMeme (talk) 17:39, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

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Syntactic sugar[edit]

Adding a good clear example will require some exposition. --Macrakis (talk) 21:24, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

September 2012[edit]

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, articles should not be moved, as you did to Nexuiz (2005 video game), without good reason. They need to have a name that is both accurate and intuitive. Wikipedia has some guidelines in place to help with this. Generally, a page should only be moved to a new title if the current name doesn't follow these guidelines. Also, if a page move is being discussed, consensus needs to be reached before anybody moves the page. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. from Nexuiz - pls see my reasoning there about creation of DAB pages and moving primary articles. Also, next time you move things, please fix the links going to the DAB page. Widefox; talk 11:32, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

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Your so called "deadvertising"[edit]

Please stop removing worthy information from the Lumia 920 article. The article is in no way advertising the product, it's even way less optimistic than the iPhone 5 or Samsung Galaxy S III articles. Why make this article less comprehensive than the others? Do you have any personal feelings against Nokia and/or Windows Phone? Wikipedia editors should not remove information without getting consensus to do so (WP:CRV). So please stop doing that or else I will report you to an administrator. Thanks for your cooperation. --Lprd2007 (talk) 16:27, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

Hello, InternetMeme![edit]

Welcome to Wikipedia. I noticed that your username, "InternetMeme", may not meet Wikipedia's username policy. If you believe that your username does not violate our policy, please leave a note here explaining why. As an alternative, you may ask for a change of username, or you may simply create a new account for editing. Thank you. I think this is neccesary because your username may appear to be slightly misleading. Thanks! (Kevin12xd (talk) 22:04, 17 October 2012 (UTC))

We need to talk about Kevin...[edit]

Hi Internet Meme. I'm starting to share your concerns about Kevin12xd (in case you weren't aware, I was the admin who unblocked him the other day). His message to you above is perhaps a little pointy; I see no issue with your username (neither has anyone else in the last four years) and so I suggest you remove the comment entirely - I nearly did this myself, but it's your talkpage, after all. As regards his blanking of his own talkpage, it's acceptable (though not encouraged) under the talkpage guidelines (specifically WP:BLANKING) - whilst users aren't allowed to remove notices regarding a current block, once the block expires/is lifted, they are permitted to delete those templates.

I'll be keeping an eye on his edits, but if you see anything else untoward, please let me know. Yunshui  08:38, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

Yunshui is correct. I have not been watching Kevin's account and actions but I am watching now. This message about username is not warranted. I do not understand people that do not want to help the project, then why edit at all? But I digress. We'll see what his behavior is going forward. -- Alexf(talk) 10:08, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
I read your post to Yunshui's talkpage. I honestly had no idea that it was against the rules of Wikipedia to clear your talkpage. I am sorry about any inconvenience I may have caused towards you. I am currently trying to sort out the current issues I'm having with Wikipedia (it's not Wikipedia, rather I believe it's my behaviour.) Anyway, I am sorry that you considered my post to your talkpage to be vandalism. I can assure that it was in good faith. Thank you. KazLabz 00:52, 19 October 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kevin12xd (talkcontribs)
Hi InternetMeme.

I posted the username warning template almost entirely as a test. I enjoy looking for templates to add, and so I decided to test one out (again, I am sorry). I found you by looking in random Talkpages of random Articles. --KazLabz 22:31, 19 October 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kevin12xd (talkcontribs)

Isla Fisher[edit]

Stop Edit warring on this article, I've added two sources discussing her writing I can easily add half a dozen more and it won't change the fact that her writing is notable and has been covered extensively in high quality sources. Notability does not apply to article content, only to the existence of the article its self however your previous edits do breach guideline/policy(linking Oman breaches WP:Overlink "do not link large geographical areas" and redirecting London to London moves it from the appropriate article to a redirect to a disambiguation page.) If you are unwilling to discuss your proposed changes on the talk page, then the likely result is admin intervention and possible banning. Stuart.Jamieson (talk) 12:50, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

You haven't provided any sources to suggest that her works are notable. If you can provide a link to a reliable source that establishes her as a notable author, then go ahead and add that occupation to the lead. As it stands, she is an actress who has attempted to become a respected author and not yet succeeded. InternetMeme (talk) 12:55, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
I've added the Independent and the Sunday Mirror as source, these are reliable sources. I can also add The Daily Mail, the Sunday Mail, The Charelston Mail, Another Independant Article, The Daily News (L.A.), The Rockhampton Morning Bulletin and others discussing her writing - what are you looking for a Pulitzer or Booker prize? Stuart.Jamieson (talk) 13:04, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
Well, in order to mention her being an author in the lead section, we need something that establishes the books as notable works, that have some merit beyond having been written by a famous actress. The fact that neither of her books have Wikipedia articles gives a hint as to their notability. InternetMeme (talk) 13:31, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

Mass title changes[edit]

Hi there. I noticed you retitled the generations of video games articles. Another user has changed it back, as would I have, had I gotten to it first. Please wait and find consensus before making lots of important changes like this. They were titled that way for a reason. If you want to discuss changing the title, I'd recommend starting up a discussion at a place like Wikiproject Video games first. Then make changes if there's a general agreement from the discussions. Thanks! Sergecross73 msg me 20:27, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

I've started a discussion at Wikiproject Video Games at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Video_games#Renaming_the_.22History_of_video_game_consoles_.28eighth_generation.29.22_articles - I'll let you describe what you want to do, so I don't misconstrue your viewpoint. Sergecross73 msg me 14:17, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
Um, it's been about 48 hours now, and it seems you haven't presented any sort of case yet. Have you had a change of heart? Sergecross73 msg me 15:39, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
No, I still think it's the right thing to do, it's just that I've come to realise that it's a matter of overall wiki title logic, and I'd be presenting my case to a bunch of video game geeks (I don't mean that disparagingly, I'm one too). Their interest lies in the details of video games, and they're not likely to have any regard for the kinds of reasons I believe exist for re-titling the articles. I'm having a look to see if there are any other places in Wikipedia that deal with editorial/language/titling issues rather than article subject content issues, as they're more likely to understand the kinds of things I'm talking about.
Or to put it another way, the video game folks couldn't care less if an article title is too long and unwieldy, of if there are no other history articles that have no accompanying parent article, or whether the current title was a result of random article evolution rather than logic. They just want things to stay the same, and instead deal with the questions of how many levels there really are in Pac-Man or whether the PS3 is selling better than the XBox 360 (worthy questions to be sure, but not the kind of sphere of knowledge I want to deal in).
Nevertheless, I'm very grateful for your time and help; without you I probably wouldn't have looked into the system enough to realise this, and would have embarked on a protracted and fruitless quest for title consistency and conciseness : p InternetMeme (talk) 15:53, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

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Page move without discussion[edit]

I see that you recently moved 'Alternate History' to 'Alternative history (genre)‎'. I do not see that this change was discussed anywhere. Article name changes without discussion are a problem because other users don't know the reason for the move, and may have compelling arguments for keeping the article under the old name. Dialectric (talk) 17:45, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

I have moved the page back to the previous title. If you want to propose the move again, please discuss it on that article's talk page. Dialectric (talk) 11:36, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

Second Warning - Mass changes to video game generations articles[edit]

Hello again. I see you are once again making massive changes on the generations of video games articles again. I'm pretty sure I told you last time - when you're making massive changes to such over-arching topics, discuss the changes first.

The first time you did this, I can chalk it up to not knowing any better, but we've already been over this before. Gather consensus before major changes like this. I've shown you how to do this before, and I can tell you again if you like, but you've really got to stop doing this, or we may have to take this to WP:ANI. Sergecross73 msg me 18:39, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

What? I altered only one article, and I didn't move it. I simply made a new article with the appropriate name, and put the relevant stuff there. I took your concerns into consideration, and tried something different. This is just how Wikipedia works. I agree that the previous edits I made were large scale, and I was wrong to not seek agreement, but this was a pretty minor edit, and in the spirit of WP:BOLD, combined with the fact that it's not a controversial edit (Putting non-history information in a non-history article is pretty much common sense).
The only problem is that all the video game people can't see the forest due to the trees, and haven't spent any time organizing the larger article group structures properly, because they're too busy with article content. You're welcome to revert things like this if you disagree, but you shouldn't complain when people make bold edits from time to time. As I said, I was wrong to move a whole lot of articles at once, but in this case, making a single new article, with an appropriate name, didn't seem like a big deal. The video game people just want to maintain the status quo, whether it's right or wrong (and I'm pretty sure it's wrong).
No wonder the articles are such a mess. The information in those articles is so disorganized that I doubt any reader could find any information they might want to know. I could really help with that, but you won't let me.
InternetMeme (talk) 02:31, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
(edit conflict)You are correct in the respect that the first time, it was renaming, where this time, it's about moving. Otherwise, everything else I've told you before applies. I told you before, things were set up for a reason, and you should discuss with others to understand those reasons before making big changes. If you're going to revamp some random, obscure, inactive game article, go for it and be bold, but when your dealing with something that spans a ton of content, like 5+ years worth of different company's video games consoles, you discuss it first. A ton of different articles link to it, so you can mess a lot of other stuff up when you split it like that.
It's very simple. If it's as "common sense" as you say it is, then it will be very easy to discuss and find consensus to support it. But as it is now, there is clear opposition to your edits, through User:Arkhandar reverting your edits, and my comments on the talk page. So again, discuss before moving further. Sergecross73 msg me 02:37, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
I don't mean this offensively, but I don't think any of you know/care much about article structure or large-scale article group arrangement. In fact, all of you seem opposed to good practice in these areas. So what a trained editor would consider "commin sense" might seem completely unreasonable to you guys. Even if this isn't true, let's think hypothetically for a second:
Let's say that due to their common nature, all of the video game people didn't know much about those things, and were therefore opposed to fixing the articles. And a lone editor who happened to have some education in that area came to fix things (and kept getting reverted by the video game people who didn't know any better). What would be the solution? Are there any other teams of editors who are expert at general article layour and title structure? Who should he talk to? (I do accept that I may be wrong, of course, but even so, just for the sake of hypothesis, what would be the solution?). InternetMeme (talk) 02:52, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
You open an WP:RFC on an appropriate talk page to draw attention. But you certainly don't say "my way is best, you are all wrong" and make unilateral changes. (In fact, I would argue you are very wrong. All the generation articles are sub articles of "History of video game consoles" broke out be generation, as opposed what you are doing in calling the parents as "Video game consoles (x generation)" with the "History" article as the subarticle. The latter is definitely something to be avoided per WP:SS. ) --MASEM (t) 03:14, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
I don't mean it as personally as that. I'm not trying to say "my way is best, you are all wrong". I'm trying to say that the current state of the article arrangement was a result of random evolution rather than calculated organization, and that the reason the video game people want it to stay the same is due to them being comfortable with the status quo, and not having the expertise or interest to see any reason to change things. The fact is that the article is a mess, and part of the problem is that the title is too specific. That fact is made clear by looking at certain sentences, in which the writer has strained unnecessarily to present the information in a historical context, just to fit the title of the article. There is a great deal of information about each generation of consoles that is not hisory related, and there are currently no articles to put it in, so it is shoehorned into the current, inappropriate articles. InternetMeme (talk) 03:31, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
That reasoning makes it sound like you had the self-awareness that the idea may be opposed, making it all the more wrong that you decided to go about doing it without discussion. But none the less, now you know you have to discuss it further before proceeding. There's the respective articles talk page (which you started, just failed to wait for any sort of discussion to occur first.), WP:VG's talk page, or starting up an WP:RFC. You seem to have no problem discussing it at length on yours or my talk page, so it really shouldn't be any different at these other avenues... Sergecross73 msg me 14:17, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
It doesn't sound like that at all to me. Previously, you guys seemed to be unhappy mainly about my editing multiple articles at once, and renaming them. So I thought you might not mind if I stuck to just one article, and refrained from renaming it (I made another article instead). That way there are no problems with redirects, for instance. Never mind, I have another idea. I think the basis of the current layout stems from the fact that the generational articles are all linked from the "History" section of the "Video game console" article; this kind of forces them into the context of being named "History" articles themselves, even though that's not what they are (they are general articles with specifications, lists of console, and a history section). I plan to add a "Generations" section to the "Video game console" article, with a table listing each of the generations, and also the main consoles that are part of them. This will give some context for the hopeful later addition of general purpose "Video game console (X generation)" articles linked from there.
Anyway, thanks very much for taking the time to explain the point of view of the video game people, and listening to what I have to say. I do actually appreciate it, even though our conversation can sometimes be terse : )
InternetMeme (talk) 14:26, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
Like I said before, just make sure to discuss these future plans before implementing them. Not only is it how it should be done, but when working on such high profile, large scope articles, if you don't discuss before hand, your changes will likely just get reverted again, like your prior attempts, because of the high visibility of the articles. Sergecross73 msg me 14:44, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Pisces[edit]

Thank you for editing at Pisces. I think what you have done gives the article the balance it needed. I made some changes since then, a little formatting and organizing. - s t a r c a r (talk) 22:32, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

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Repeated reverting[edit]

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Hi there. It's not really an edit war, it's just some random anonymous IP user being a pain. For the record, Dear Esther is not generally accepted as a video game (I should probably provide some more sources). InternetMeme (talk) 17:35, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
An edit war is an edit war, even if one person finds the other a pain. And IPs are people too! I agree Dear Esther is a grey area, but digging up and discussing sources is always the best way to forward if you encounter resistance from those who support the status quo. --McGeddon (talk) 18:53, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

Harlem Shake (meme)[edit]

By do you say "by talk" in this edit? It wasn't discussed on the talk pege anywhere. Also, please don't add unsourced information. Where does any source say it's a dance (let alone that it is performed in public places)? The article is not about a dance (see the article title). (If you still wish to discuss it, start a discussion on the talk page. I don't think it's a good idea to discuss it here.) --Moscow Connection (talk) 19:21, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

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S. M. Stirling[edit]

Please see "alternate" on Wiktionary. It is also an adjective.--Jim in Georgia Contribs Talk 19:12, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

This was fake?[edit]

I am not sure what the best term is, but piped links to a section are not fake. What you did is an improvement though. Thanks. Blue Rasberry (talk) 18:21, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

May 2013[edit]

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Ahh, my old friend and adversary : ) Thanks for the tip. I think I ran into a name conflict at some point, and it made things a little difficult. If there's a better way to go about this, do let me know! InternetMeme (talk) 05:12, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

digital distribution or download[edit]

Hi InternetMeme,

Concerning this edit: it is called an optical disc, and either 'digital distribution' or 'download', 'digital download' is redundant. Thanks, and happy editing. --Soetermans. T / C 15:10, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

> Concerning this edit: it is called an optical disc, and either 'digital distribution' or 'download', 'digital download' is redundant. Thanks, and happy editing.
Hi there,
I think you've got things a little muddled. Here are some synonyms:
  • Digital disc, optical disc, digital optical disc.
  • Digital download, online download, digital online download.
So as you can see, the word that is universally redundant is 'digital'; all of these forms of data are digital. You may be running into a common error, mistaking the word "digital" for "electronic". An optical disc is not electronic, but it is digital (I've completed several papers on digital (and analogue) electronics, so I am quite confident in this assertion). InternetMeme (talk) 15:45, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
Let's try to keep this conversation in one place, please use the Talkback template!
Look, I'm just an editor with a more-than-average interest in video game articles. As far as I know the common term is optical disc. It has an article on Wikipedia, digital disc doesn't. Digital download is a disambig page, and makes a distinction between (to) download, as a proces, and digital distribution, as a method of distribution, which, in the case of Portal 2, is the right way of calling it. --Soetermans. T / C 16:31, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
But online distribution works just fine of course :) --Soetermans. T / C 16:34, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
Hey, that's cool. I appreciate your input! If you're interested in precise terminology for these things, with a specific example of antonyms, here are a few topical examples:
  • Physical 1 (such as a disc or an envelope) as opposed to Electronic (such as an http web request or a phone call).
  • Physical 2 (such as a brick-and-mortar retail store) as opposed to Online (such as a web site).
  • Digital (such as the data on a disc or data transferred online) as opposed to Analog (such as a drawing on a piece of paper or a recording on an audio cassette).
As you can imagine, these terms can get very intermingled and confused, and the distictions are often lost to lay-people such as reporters or the Wikipedia editors who named the articles you mentioned.
The reason it is wrong (but not incorrect) to refer to Portal 2's online distribution as "digital" distribution is not because it is not digital, but because all of its forms of distribution are digital; the word is redundant. We could equally correctly (but wrongly) refer to it as "digital binary software data disribution". But the disc version can be equally accurately described as a "digital binary software data disc". So if you omit all of the redundant words (that apply to all of the ways it is distributed), you're left with only "distribution" or "disc".
Just for your interest, here is the Britannica article on digital discs:
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/163300/digital-disc
InternetMeme (talk) 16:50, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
Ah, now I get your point, it is the word 'digital' that bothers you. Is is it okay if we Wikipedia keeps using it, even though it is wrong to use it? If not, you can always ask for moving articles and such.
Actually, I'm not too bothered whether or we use the word or not, provided we're consistent, in order to avoid confusion. So, wherever we use the term "digital download" to describe a download, we should ensure that we use te term "digital disc" to describe the equivalent disc. Overall, though, it probably makes sense to not use the term at all, as it is always redundant (as everything on pretty much every computer in the world is entirely digital. Using the term unnecessarily will lead to confusion about that type of thing. InternetMeme (talk) 21:28, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
And concerning the talkback template, it's real easy to use. Just write {{talkback|'your username here'}} at another user's talk page. {{talkback|Soetermans}} shows up as
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Thanks for that! It might be an idea to correct the "Talkback Template" article, as it is formatted incorrectly there: Template:Talkback#Example. InternetMeme (talk) 21:28, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
Oh my goodness. InternetMeme has touched so eloquently upon one of the most grotesquely obvious faux pas of the modern age. HOW did this logical travesty ever happen, let alone become so ubiquitously entrenched? I guess it's a clearer type of download, not like ye olden days of scratchy, hissy, analog downloads anymore. — Smuckola (Email) (Talk) 16:48, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

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"dude to"?[edit]

Dude, I reverted your improper cut-and-paste page move of NCSOFT. I find no discussion of so-called "dude to" bug on the article's talk page. Dicklyon (talk) 16:15, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

Rv notice[edit]

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Sandy Bridge and FinFET[edit]

Hello there! Just as a note redarding the latest edits / reverts on Sandy Bridge article, FinFET redirect page was broken, and I've corrected it by using an explicit anchor. As we know, Wikipedia:NOTBROKEN suggests that redirects should be used. I'm more than happy to discuss it further, if required. — Dsimic (talk) 15:08, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

Castle Bravo[edit]

Since when has Wikipedia changed policy on wikilinks? The practice of links appearing with different text than the actual link is commonplace and required. There are many cases where using link names as they exist would be disruptive in text. Tarl.Neustaedter (talk) 14:09, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

I don't think the policy has changed, I think that it has always been to use piped links to match the given grammar constraints of a sentence. I don't think Wikipedia's policy has ever been to use piped links as a substitute for footnotes, which is what had happened here. InternetMeme (talk) 14:21, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

December 2013[edit]

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Castle Bravo. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

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Looking over your contributions, it appears that you have been attempting the mass removal of piped links. Please stop immediately, as there is clearly no consensus for these removals. VQuakr (talk) 21:28, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Human Rights Now![edit]

Hi. I'm afraid I don't understand why you changed the name of the Human Rights Now! article to omit the exclamation point. It is part of the name, in Amnesty International's own use at the time (see the tour booklet image), in their subsequent use, in media use at the time, in media use since then, and so forth. The "stylization" issue that you seem to think this is about refers to more unorthodox, unpronounceable spellings, such as locating articles at Kesha instead of Ke$ha or at Pink (singer) instead of P!nk. But exclamation points at the end of a word or phrase represent normal English usage, spelling, and pronunciation, and are always included in WP titles. See for example Wham!, Oklahoma!, Help! (song), Help! (album), Airplane!, Tora! Tora! Tora!, and many others. The article name should be moved back. Thanks. Wasted Time R (talk) 11:44, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

Title's shouldn't include exclamation points without including quotation marks. Those other titles you listed are also incorrect; feel free to fix them too if you have time, as I'll be busy for the next day or two. InternetMeme (talk) 12:21, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
On what WP guideline do you base your belief? WP:TSC doesn't say anything about this. WP:NCTR doesn't say anything about this either, and indeed gives Are We Not Men? We Are Devo! as an example of a properly located article. WP:MOS#Article titles says "The final visible character should not be a punctuation mark unless it is part of a name", and in all these cases, the exclamation point is part of a name. Wasted Time R (talk) 13:23, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
Seems to have a point. Clearly there is a MOS policy with regard to punctuation that does permit its use at the end of some article titles without the use of quotation marks— otherwise the statement above would not exist. Unless there are significant examples that can be shown where such a punctuation mark was deliberately excluded from a similar article title (pref. one that is the title of an org of some kind) in adherence to the general policy of not adding them in, it looks to me like Human Rights Now! should stand as the title of this article.

Your reversion of my edit to Satin weave[edit]

Hi, I noticed you recently undid my edit to the article on Satin weave in which I had turned the article into a redirect to the one on Satin, stating that they seemed to duplicate each other. You stated in your edit that the articles do not duplicate each other at all. Can we discuss this? Both of the articles make use of the same b&w image of a satin weave, and both discuss the way the fabric is made. Both reference the same articles on twill weave and plain weave, and both discuss the different materials out of which the fabric can be made. The article on satin even begins with the sentence "Satin is a weave that typically has a glossy surface and a dull back..." If satin is a weave, then I am not sure I understand why we need to have an article on "satin" and another on "satin weave." If you feel my redirect was hasty, would you be opposed to a merger that eventually results in such a redirect? Do you think that the article on satin could pretty much cover the content of the one on satin weave? Or can you explain to me why you think it is important that we have separate articles on each? Thanks. KDS4444Talk 07:38, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi there. Within the "Satin" article I just did a page search for a few phrases from the "Satin weave" article, and noticed that not all of them were there, and so concluded that not all information was duplicated. I also noted that there was no "Satin weave" section heading in the "Satin" article, which would be necessary if the articles were merged.
Based on those two things, I figured that you'd probably made some minor error, or just been in a rush, so I thought that in the mean time it'd be safer to revert it, as there are probably a large number of users coming to the article in order to find out what a satin weave is, and in the previous state, the article did not serve them.
Feel free to merge the articles again, but keep in mind that I'm pretty certain it's necessary to include a specific "Satin weave" section which includes all content from the respective article.
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‎Betty Ong's phone call[edit]

'There was never any suggestion that she confirmed Sweeney's presence aboard.'

"Amy and Betty were trying to, RELAY information so ... as I was talking to her [Sweeney] she would, y'know she would ask Betty: "Did you, see this?" or... y'know, so they were kind of working in TANDEM, to get the information - out."

~ American Airlines' manager Michael Woodward ' Last Hour of Flight 11 '.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lfIjuQbfjw @ 34:39. Beingsshepherd (talk) 02:06, 23 February 2014 (UTC)Beingsshepherd.

Thanks for the research! It's good to know what that was about. I was meaning to say that there was never any suggestion in the article that she confirmed Sweeney's presence aboard. If the article is to state that she didn't confirm a particular fact, the article must also state the supposed fact itself, in order for the reference to make sense.

Do you think this information (in addition to the previous statement) should be added to the article? Is it relevant enough to include?

InternetMeme (talk) 18:34, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

I'd like to include it, but I doubt that 'Documentacus' is/would be deemed reliable (though it clearly features Woodward's account in person).
Inexplicably, in the numerous sources I've read, and after having had the question viewed over 1,500 times(http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=22459); the woman who discourses with Ong in the audio file, remains hitherto unidentified.
Plus, a cleaner of Flight 11 (Wayne Kirk) claimed that he had boarded the plane (as the SkyChefs caterers were leaving), approximately 40 minutes before the arrival time given by the last pilot Lynn Howland; who was 'sure' it had connected to gate B33 rather than B32.
Therefore, there's the serious possibility, that there were two different planes oO(need one cite the: absence of choking Mace in Sweeney's report, and a bomb in Ong's; 'Flight 12' & doctor discrepancies?).Beingsshepherd (talk) 03:36, 24 February 2014 (UTC)Beingsshepherd

Links[edit]

Hi InternetMeme! I just wanted to drop by and explain why I reverted on Project Steve. As I'm sure you know, we don't want easter eggs in the article, where a word is linked to a totally different page. However, that doesn't mean that links have to be exactly the same words as the article title we point to. Your most recent edit puts brackets around words in the article prose, which is certainly undesirable. Your first edit was better, but as I noted in my edit summary, changing "common ancestry" so just "common" is linked also makes things less than obvious. "Common ancestry" is the idea we're trying to link, and it's ok that the word "ancestry" doesn't appear in the article title. Linking just "common" makes it appear as though we're pointing to Common, which would be strange! Does all that make sense? Let me know if you have any questions! Thanks!   — Jess· Δ 05:20, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

Perfect Fifth[edit]

Yea, hi, I gave the discussion my full thoughts. Many of your comments echoed my feelings, as did a few others (Just Bill). I hope I clarified my original and helped find words that help future readers, yet satisfy the others.... Regards, -- Steve -- (talk) 02:44, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

April 2014[edit]

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"Debs" easter egg or not?[edit]

To me the usage of "Deb" for "Débutante" does not constitute "an intentional inside joke, hidden message, or feature". But then I was around when the last debutantes were presented at court. Chapter 12 of Anne de Courcy's 2007 book "Debs at War: 1939-1945" is specifically about those who served at Bletchley Park. This is not worth an edit war, but you might like to look it up.--TedColes (talk) 12:37, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

Pace] --TedColes (talk) 11:52, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

Egg in thermal pulse?[edit]

Apparently to continue from the note just above this one, and in particular that above entitled "Castle Bravo", it is not apparent to me in Operation Plumbbob how exactly the code:

[ [Effects of nuclear explosions#Thermal radiation|thermal pulse] ] ----> "thermal pulse"

is an EasterEgg. Your change makes it

[ [Effects of nuclear explosions#Thermal radiation] ] pulse ----> "Effects of nuclear explosions#Thermal radiation pulse"

which is grammatical nonsense. I think we'll leave it the way it was, as there is no hidden meaning or inside joke, or even much jargon, involved. I'm aware you dislike piped links, but all I can suggest is to get over it. SkoreKeep (talk) 17:01, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

OK, now you've changed it again with the explanation "(WP:EASTEREGG (you're mistaken: this has nothing to do with hidden meanings or inside jokes).)", to:
   [ [Effects of nuclear explosions#Thermal radiation|thermal radiation] ]  ---->  "thermal radiation"
That change I can support; it actually makes grammatical sense, and it didn't change the meaning of the sentence very much. It certainly isn't the change you first essayed. However, I'm somewhat flumoxed by your interpretation of "Effects of nuclear explosions#Thermal radiation|thermal pulse" as an Easteregg, which seems to be defined as a "piped link [used] to create 'easter egg links', that require the reader to follow them before understanding what's going on". First, I don't see how it applies, and second, you didn't remove the piped link, all you did is replace "thermal radiation" for "thermal pulse", leaving the piped link as it was. I could agree and won't argue with the edit but your explanation this time is odd. But, nevermind, don't try to explain, you've confused me quite enough. SkoreKeep (talk) 19:18, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

Mass title changes, again![edit]

You need to not be making mass title changes to articles where you neither have consensus, had your changes reverted repeatedly, and been told to stop, even so far as this being brought up for discussion and still doing it after no decision was made. The video game Generation pages are being moved back until a clear discussion has been made on this. Please do not move these pages again. BcRIPster (talk) 18:45, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

Please come over to the project talk page for discussion. BcRIPster (talk) 19:43, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

May 2014[edit]

You have been blocked from editing for a week. I've already warned you twice not to make huge changes to the generations of video games without discussing or finding consensus first, because they are high traffic articles that link to a large volume of other articles. Once again, you've ignored that, and riled up a bunch of editors. When you come back from your block, please discuss before changes, and only make changes if there is consensus to do so.

(These articles are always going to have a lot of sets of eyes on them, so don't think you can just stealth-edit your changes to them like this.) Sergecross73 msg me 13:05, 10 May 2014 (UTC)