User talk:Ipankonin/Archive 2

re: Iraq War mediation case

Hello Ipankonin, I will indeed offer to take the Iraq war mediation case. Thank you for bringing this to my attention. --דניאל - Dantheman531 23:44, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Image Help

{{Help}} I uploaded a new version of Image:UK Arms 1714.svg, but the old version is still displayed. I know that I uploaded the right version, because when I click on the last item in the upload history, the version I download is correct. Will this sort itself out? Should I re-upload the new version? Thanks! -- I. Pankonin (t/c) 03:23, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

I think you should. I see no difference from the blue. -Goodshoped 03:28, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

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Flags

All the flags I uploaded were created from Image:Royal Standard of England.svg which is public domian. Astrotrain 10:13, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

For you...

		The Graphic Designer's Barnstar
		For your hard work on the provision of so very many arms! DBD 11:58, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Great work & congratulations

Some spectacular work on the arms, you've very much earned that Barnstar! I was wondering if you could explain the process of how you created them and what program you used, and if I supplied a blazon, could you create a graphic for me please?

Regards, Paul Proberton 05:24, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for such a prompt reply. The blazon is for the Robertons of that Ilk: Quarterly, 1st and 4th Gules, a close helm argent, 2nd and 3rd argent, a cross crosslet fitchee, gules.

If it isn't too much trouble, could you also do the differenced arms for my more immediate ancestors, the Robertons of Earnock? 1st and 4th Sable a close helm argent, 2nd and 3rd Argent a Cross crosslet fitchee Gules

Regards, Paul. 05:46, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

proberton(at)optusnet(dot)com(dot)au

Thank you :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Proberton (talk • contribs) 13:18, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Royal Standard

Could you please explain why you changed the Royal Standard of the UK on commons with a version that is not correct thanks. --Barryob Vigeur de dessus 19:54, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

The harp is wrong [1] and the orignal image was much more detailed. --Barryob Vigeur de dessus 22:42, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

The Royal standard that is flow above the place is not an exact replica of the coat of arms as for the crown copyright Template:PD-BritishGov would cover it on Wikipedia but it is not needed as the image was created in inkscape and released into the public domain. --Barryob Vigeur de dessus 23:10, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

It is not using Template:Non-free Crown copyright --Barryob Vigeur de dessus 23:27, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Armorials

Like I said. Lines of Succession, by Jiri Louda and Michael Maclagan. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Michaelsanders (talk • contribs) 00:34, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Also:

• Leopold I's arms are Hungary in the first quarter, Bohemia in the second, impaled AustriaFile:Dukes of Austria Arms.svg and Old Burgundy in the third, and quartered Castile & Leon in the fourth, all on a bicephalous eagle with haloes around the head and clutching sword and sceptre

• Joseph I's are Bohemia in first and fourth quarters, Hungary in 2nd and 3rd, with impaled austriaFile:Dukes of Austria Arms.svg and old Burgundy placed in escutcheon upon that, all on the bicephalous eagle as described for Leopold I

• The arms shown for Charles VI are not shown upon the eagle in LoS; they may represent those he used whilst pretender King of Spain, rather than those he used as Emperor. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Michaelsanders (talk • contribs) 00:51, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Charles VI is not shown with an eagle at all; but nor is Ferdinand III, who would have had one (it's because in Ferdinand's case, the only difference between personal and imperial arms is the eagle). On the other hand, it could indicate that they were his arms in pretense (the prominence of Spain would suggest that). I don't know.

As for Albert II, though, he is explicitly shown and described as having used simply "Austria alone on the breast of a one-headed eagle." Those of his wife as shown as Hungary and Bohemia quartered. Michael Sanders 01:24, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Elisabeth of Bohemia's arms are shown as Bohemia and Hungary quartered, indicating that his own personal arms were likewise. Michael Sanders 01:34, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

hi

Too many pictures/templates already in the article, and he was only HRE for 4 years, and you placed it into the king of Hungary section. Basicly that article needs more text above more pictures/other stuff. Cheers. Hobartimus 14:35, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Just wondering...

How come your shields for The Duchess of Cornwall and The Countess of Wessex are not diamond-shaped, whereas Princesses Anne, Beatrice and Alexandra are? DBD 12:26, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Thank so much for clearing that up! Perhaps royal women are an exception, seeing as how their shield comes from the sovereign... And anyway, whilst Angus Ogilvy seems to have a coat, I doubt very much that Tim Laurence does! DBD 15:37, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

HRE Arms removal

It looks much more pretty now :) My last removal was because of placemenet, it was mixed with the text :( ≈Tulkolahten≈^≈talk≈ 09:44, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Arms

Congratulations both on your award and on the fantastic work. Keeping in mind I know basically nothing, other than that you use Inkscape, could you give me a brief idea of how you go about creating the various coats of arms? is it just as complicated and fiddly as it seems, or are there some ways to make it easier? thanks a lot 04:05, 10 November 2007 (UTC)deguerra

It helps a lot to go to Commons and borrow from work somebody else has already done. There are very few images that I have shaped entirely by hand. Almost all of them have an element or two from previous works. Two particularly helpful pages are commons:Category:SVG coat of arms elements and commons:Category:Heraldic figures. If you'd like more information on heraldry in general, I'd recommend Boutell's Heraldry by Charles Boutell. -- I. Pankonin (t/c) 04:47, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Cheers those are neat and thanks for the quick reply. Two more questions I'm afraid: 1. How do you actually draw up the original coat of arms? Just using the tools in Inkscape or have you got a template for that as well? and 2. so do you actually "create" all the sub-arms yourself, rather than copying them from somewhere else? ie for the english coat of arms, would you get the lions and fleur-de-lys from some page, and then create the various sections yourself, or would you actually copy+paste. if its the latter, i there any easy way of making it fit into the "shape" of the shiled? thanks again, and sorry for the annoyance :D 05:20, 10 November 2007 (UTC)deguerra —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.191.58.126 (talk)

I draw the basic shapes myself: divisions, ordinaries, etc. For example, when I made the current arms of the UK , the lions and the harp all came from existing images , but I made the double-tressure and the quarters myself.

There's a tool in Inkscape called "Draw Bezier curves". To make a shape, click on that icon and just click where you want the corners to go. If you want the lines to curve, you can drag them into the right shape with the "Edit path nodes" tool. I also use guide lines a lot. If you need a straight line, just click on the ruler at the top or left and drag onto the page. You can read the Inkscape help file, but the best way I learn is to just jump in over my head with a new project and learn along the way. -- I. Pankonin (t/c) 05:43, 10 November 2007 (UTC)