User talk:IronGargoyle

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Help with article Glossary of Belly Dance Terms[edit]

Hi! I saw that you had contributed to the article on Belly Dance. I have created an article “Glossary of Belly Dance Terms” because many of my dance students have been asking for it. I am new to Wikipedia and I was hoping that you would be able to help out by contributing or helping with formatting (I need that!) or adding citations. Thanks! MonicaDance (talk) 21:22, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

I appreciate the thought, but it's likely that I only contributed by reverting vandalism. There are not many things I know less about than Belly Dancing, lol. It seems like a decent start. Adding incoming links from other pages and adding categories seems like a good next step. Best, IronGargoyle (talk) 11:38, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

Head's up[edit]

Hey, just wanted to let you know that I extended the block on User:Ignitepictures because it looked to be the name of one of the companies involved with the movies. I wanted to let you know just so I didn't step on your toes or anything. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 03:06, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

No problem. It seems like a good block extension. Best, IronGargoyle (talk) 11:39, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

Redlinks, II[edit]

Guidance on redlinks at the Beer in New Zealand page? That's almost entirely unsourced redlinks. I'm happy to trim it back, but wanted to get your judgment on that. Prof. Mc (talk) 11:41, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

I think they should be removed. I'll probably get to them at some point if you don't. Best, IronGargoyle (talk) 13:49, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
Done. <It's a lazy Monday>. Prof. Mc (talk) 14:08, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

Message to IronGargoyle[edit]

With modesty i wanted to ask wich of the parts that i edited in the Jiro Ono page where not needed. Even though i saw these edits as a inprovment to the info that was provided by this page. that is why i reverted it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 15:26, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

I'm afraid I'm not sure. I reverted your IP address on another page (Billy Joel). This may or may not have been you. Sometimes multiple people use the same IP address. I didn't revert your edits to Jiro Ono. That was another editor. You will have to ask them. IronGargoyle (talk) 01:05, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

Waste of our time[edit]

You cannot claim to be a complete novice to Wikipedia, so I assume you're pet peeve is "red links in lists of people" and just don't care about niceties like WP:DIS or WP:TALK nor if a list is carefully supervised or a random opportunity for people to add their name to. You've forgotten that you've pulled your dragnet through the list of oboists before, in August and November 2012 and June 2013, also without ever leaving a word on the talk page. Though it has been a lot of work creating a reasonable list like this and keeping it clean over time, I'd taken those assaults largely on the chin (it costs just too much time) and, among the 44 deleted contemporary artists, I only reinserted 6 (just some of the most outrageous ones, like Ray Still, who now has an article). Your standards seem to have changed for the worse and, while you're only at the letter H, you've deleted 47 more contemporary oboists, only 1 postdating your last purge. What gives? Are you gonna delete Ray Still again?

The first time you came by you deleted all 50 or so red-linked oboists with a reference to an article in the Grove Dictionary of Music and Musicians, making you a club of one thinking that that is not a reliable source. Since you admit to not having any knowledge on the subject, why would anyone have faith in you deciding what link provided is and isn't a reliable source? For example, you discount third person bios on famous orchestra and conservatory/music school sites. Oboists generally are not celebrities; while playing first or indeed second chair for the Berlin, Concertgebouw or even the Metropolitan Opera Orchestra compares to being in the starting lineup for an NBA team, it may be impossible to find a what you would call independent biography online. You now also don't accept non-English Wikipedia bios; pray tell me where in WP:LISTPEOPLE it says that a page like Sandro Caldini makes one worth including in the list while, say, a page like de:Emanuel Abbühl doesn't (I've left the obviously just self-promoting Wikipedia (English or otherwise) bios off the list already). If you find dead links, you could try to follow WP:LR and fix or simply tag those, rather than deleting the whole line. If you find a source dubious, you can tag it as well and give other people a chance to improve on it, with above limitations in mind. Since these are such basic Wikipedia guidelines, my guess is that you've made your own interpretation of WP:LISTPEOPLE that overrules them all. Afasmit (talk) 23:17, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

I don't mean any offence, but the list is in terrible shape. WP:LISTPEOPLE is very straightforward. Entries on lists of people need to be bluelinks or redlinks with reliable sources that speak to their notability. If the list entry has an article and is an oboist, it obviously wouldn't be deleted. So, no, I won't be deleting Ray Still. You'll notice that I also studiously avoided deleting the Grove Dictionary entries. I am deleting entries that don't have an article on the English Wikipedia and don't have independent reliable sources (in other words, I remove redlinks with only faculty bios, personal websites, record company bios, etc.) IronGargoyle (talk) 00:17, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

Recent edits to List of Jamaican record producers[edit]

Information.svg Hello, and thank you for your recent contributions. I appreciate the effort you made for our project, but unfortunately I had to undo some of your edit(s) because I believe the article was better before you made that change. Feel free to contact me directly if you have any questions. Thank you! (talk) 18:14, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

Please review the WP:LISTPEOPLE guideline. Entries in lists of people should have Wikipedia articles already, or they should have independent, reliable sources which verify their notability and membership in the category. IronGargoyle (talk) 18:17, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

Request for comment[edit]

Hello there, a proposal regarding pre-adminship review has been raised at Village pump by Anna Frodesiak. Your comments here is very much appreciated. Many thanks. Jim Carter through MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 06:47, 28 May 2014 (UTC)[edit]

The IP that you threatened to block without warning for adding false information to articles here is at it again. I'd take him to ANI except for the fact that he hasn't actually received a full suite of warning templates. Note that this user has, in the past, added the same sorts of nonsense to many of the same articles from dynamic IPs in the range. Deor (talk) 13:11, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

Reply:June 2014[edit]

Yeah, sorry about that. I was trying to revert vandalism, and I accidentally undid your revision. McCann27 (talk) 23:05, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

Not a problem. IronGargoyle (talk) 01:21, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

Your reversion at Pir Sadardin[edit]

This IP is copying text into multiple articles from [1]. I'll block him shortly. Dougweller (talk) 16:03, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

Could you please check this issue of paid editing out and possibly block certain users and/or IP addresses[edit]

I strongly believe that employees of Advisorshares, and/or Arrow Invesment Advisors are editing the “Advisorsshares” and Wikipedia pages. First of all, Advisorshares and Arrow Invesment are both based in Maryland and there have been an unusual amount of ip edits in the history sections that come from near both firms headquarters in Maryland according to Wikipeida’s suggested geotag sites. In fact one edit on the page from March 20, 2014 traced back to ARROW INVESTMENT ADVISORS using the WHOIS tool. Other IP address from around Advisorshares’ headquarters in Bethesda Maryland, include:

A username “AdvisorShares” made an edit before it was banned on Feb. 14, There’s a large possibility that this was a paid employee of Advisorshares trying to put an ‘official’ entry, which is just firm marketing material. This account was quickly blocked by IronGargoyle. These two usernames seem to be sock puppets of the same user (probably an Advisorshares or employee): UserNameUnderContruction which edited the “Advisorshares” page and “ETFinvestor” which edited the page. They deleted basically the same sentence on May 26 and May 27 respectively. On the Advisorshares history it took away 331 bytes in the history and on the page it took away 337 bytes. Other possible sock puppets of this same user include, Babylon1894 and Jigsaw574 UserNameUnderConstruction has been warned twice on their talk page that if they are a paid employee of a company whose page they are editing, they need to declare it. Both times they avoid answering if they are a paid employee or representative and claim that other users can’t make such assumptions.Tempuser788 (talk) 19:06, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

There could very well be something shady going on, but I would suggest that you take this over to WP:SPI. I don't have the technical tools to investigate on the technical end of things (I'm not a checkuser), and I don't have the patience to get into a detailed behavioral investigation. Best, IronGargoyle (talk) 16:00, 24 June 2014 (UTC)


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is there anyway you can add that the romanians are or have been known to be gypsies for 24 hours please — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 01:31, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

I'm not an expert on the demographics of Eastern Europe, but I don't think that's accurate. There are certainly Roma people in Romania, but all Romanians are not Roma (or Gypsies). Anything you add should have a verifiable, reliable source. If you don't have that, it shouldn't be added to the article. IronGargoyle (talk) 16:04, 24 June 2014 (UTC)


CUT IT OUT! I CENSORED THE F-WORD FOR A REASON! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Matt200055 (talkcontribs) 18:49, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

Please review WP:NOTCENSORED. Wikipedia does not censor material simply because it is offensive. This is particularly true in direct quotations where fidelity to the source is important. IronGargoyle (talk) 18:58, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

Universal Community Calendar[edit]

Hi, you removed an external link to 'Universal Community Calendar' but also the whole reference to it I realise now that it's best if I create a proper Wiki page for the calendar and link to that I've literally just signed up so if you could link me to a template page I can use to create the page that would be great thanks Litmusafreeman (talk)LitmusLitmusafreeman (talk)

My suggestion would be to head over to Articles for Creation. IronGargoyle (talk) 19:24, 9 July 2014 (UTC)