User talk:Iryna Harpy

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A fair word of advice[edit]

As I also explained to you on the talk page your Machiavellian methods of resolving disputes are unacceptable and have effectively forfeited the fact that we should have any normal discussion. Your attempt to undermine my editorial credibility by attacking my supposed ethnic and religious background whilst being generally rude and sarcastic [1] is breach of WP:CIVIL, WP:FAITH, and WP:PERSONAL whilst also establishing a WP:BATTLEGROUND here. [2] Not to mention the fact that you are tossing around threats of ANI and "formal venues" as if they were grass seed. Just make sure to keep in mind WP:BOOMERANG will you. Praxis Icosahedron ϡ (TALK) 14:54, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

Dear User:Iryna Harpy, you challenged User:Praxis Icosahedron on talk:Islam in Bosnia and Herzegovina, that if he were a Sunni Muslim bosniak then he may not be able to remain neutral on this topic. I am asking you the same question. User peaceworld is a devout Ahmadi Muslim. Will he remain neutral when it comes to Sunni Islam and ahmadiyya movement. Seriously speeking, user peaceworld has a great influence on me too. I used to be neutral while editing Islam related articles but thanks to his pro-Ahmadi edits I have become pro-Sunni, pro-Shia.Septate (talk) 06:20, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
If you don't believe me, please have a look at the edit history of Intercalation (timekeeping), see the edit made by user peaceworld(Obvious POV and pro-Ahmadi) which I reverted. This is one of the thousands of the examples of his pro-ahmadi edits. I need you explanation.Septate (talk) 06:29, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
Thank you for pointing out that focal ambiguity, Septate. Clearly, though, there is a lack of good faith with the user in question being quick to attempt the unjustified incrimination and undermining of editors she may not agree with or understand, effectively pointing to a battleground mentality as already demonstrated. The user, moreover, quite unnecessarily brings the matter to a head by engaging in "private" deliberation with "Peaceworld" where she "envisages" the matter going to the administrator's noticeboard because dispute resolution would apparently be futile. In fact, the user has not yet demonstrated the sincere will to hear out or truly understand the counter arguments. I firstly welcome an honest and sincere dialogue between the editors involved characterized by a genuine intention to understand each other, and in case that leads no where, dispute resolution or a request for comment. The so far only incident about the whole situation that would actually warrant ANI is Iryna Harpy's inappropriate behaviour. WP:TPNO for example ordains Do not ask for another's personal details. Let us try to avoid shooting ourselves in the foot.Praxis Icosahedron ϡ (TALK) 01:28, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
Praxis Icosahedron and Septate - In case you have not noticed the tag on the top of this and my user page, I've only just managed to troubleshoot my computer in order to keep it going until my new computer arrives, at which point I'll need to configure the new one. Hopefully, this will all be accomplished by the end of the week.
In the meantime, you're more that welcome to start an ANI into my "Machiavellian" editing behaviour, points of civility... plus all of the other supposedly WP:TE I have deployed against the both of you. After all, it is abundantly clear that you are neutral editors whose AGF and impeccable credentials stand on their own merits for any neutral administrator to see. Looking forward to discussing the issue of WP:OWN, as well as a persisting inability to understand my "bureaucratic" position regarding the difference between the WP:TITLE and the content (title = "Islam in Bosnia and Herzegovina" / title ≠ "Bosniaks" / title ≠ "Islamization of Bosnia and Herzegovina".
Incidentally, Septate, take care with invoking WP:TPNO after describing Peaceworld as "... thanks to his pro-Ahmadi edits I have become pro-Sunni, pro-Shia." and user talk page sections with your POV and quizzing Peaceworld as to personal opinions. Praxis, after your characterisations of me as opposed to your AGF editing and edit summaries, as well as "discussions" earlier in the year, yes... I would seriously be concerned about WP:BOOMERANG per WP:IUC: "You need to learn boundaries, honestly. You're always welcome to stalk my page if you like. I'm flattered. Just beware of WP:WIKISTALKING. Like I said, I will not be discussing with a person who so deliberately creates an oppressive personal environment." Wikistalking? Oppressive personal environment (my querying where the content is going is "oppressive" to you)? Finally, there is nothing invidious about my missive on Peaceworld's talk page as I am fully aware the you both have that talk page on your watchlist (i.e., rather sharp don't you think, Septate?). For the moment, happy editing to you both; and be careful of "focal ambiguities". --Iryna Harpy (talk) 06:27, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
I will not be editing this article for quite some time. Do away with it best you like. Cheers. I'm disappointed it should have to be this way. And for your information, I am an agnostic. Praxis Icosahedron ϡ (TALK) 06:33, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
I'm sorry that you've taken this personally, Praxis Icosahedron. My only concern was not giving some form of very brief acknowledgement be given to forms of Islam in the contemporary nation-state, and have no intention of making any changes other than a nodding, but not UNDUE, reference in the lead. Should Peaceworld, or any others, try to use it as a WP:COATRACK, I would/will be just as persistent about tossing anything undue out. I truly do strive for neutrality and the kind of information a reader would expect to encounter. It's a pity our paths have crossed in such an unpleasant manner as I certainly feel that you are one of the good ones. Cheers! --Iryna Harpy (talk) 06:50, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
Dear User:Iryna Harpy, you mentioned that the article is (title = "Islam in Bosnia and Herzegovina" / title ≠ "Bosniaks" / title ≠ "Islamization of Bosnia and Herzegovina". But my dear fellow the article before my edit stated the following thing The Bosniaks are predominantly Muslim by religion, the majority of which are Sunni Muslims who subscribe to the Hanafi school of thought, while a minority are Shia Muslims subscribing to the Twelvers school of thought. There are also a small number who subscribe to the Ahmadiyya school of thought. Can you explain this? This statement is clearly about religion of Bosniaks not Islam in Bosnia. Furthermore, it doesnot distinguish between whether minority of bosniaks are Ahmadi or minority of Bosnians are Ahmadi.
Regarding my question about homosexuality, I only asked it for my own information. I didn't want to hurt peaceworld. The only thing that went wrong was that neither peaceworld nor you would expect me being gay. But its true that I am homosexual but I hate being homosexual (That's my personal matter). I know Sunni and Shia views regarding gays but not about Ahmadi views. I hope you would understand.Septate (talk) 07:39, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
My humble suggestion would be to stop wastage of time. Peaceworld should provide a reliable source regarding ahmadis in Bosnia (plz don't give book source because no one can verify it) and mention ahmadis at the right place in the article which they deserve.Septate (talk) 07:47, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
Dear all, I am not interested in writing chunks of paragraphs to defend myself (which I could). I'd just like to say that having a particular editing interest is no crime.@User:Septate, User:Praxis Icosahedron--Peaceworld 11:37, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

Help with translation?[edit]

I'm looking for a bit of help with translation of a map from the Russian Wikipedia. Under the heading География действий at the page Вооружённый конфликт на востоке Украины (2014), there is a good map of all the battles that have taken place in Donetsk and Luhansk. I'd like such a map for our 2014 insurgency in Donetsk and Luhansk article, but I can't at all figure out how to translate it and transfer it over here. Do you think you could help me get that map into our article? Or perhaps you know someone that can? RGloucester 22:43, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

It's based on a generic map using a template available in Russian Wikipedia. If there's an English version of the template, I could put it together in a half an hour or so. The problem is that I don't know if there is a corresponding English Wikipedia template. I'll search around, but will ping Ezhiki and Ymblanter in case they can help out. —Iryna Harpy (talk) 03:31, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
Thanks very much. RGloucester 03:33, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
Okay, I've found the correlating template and have made a start on the map here. There are still a few hidden comments in need of being translated, plus the visible translations are rough. You might want to change the titles and descriptions from the sandbox map, or by leaving comments on its corresponding talk page. Cheers! —Iryna Harpy (talk) 05:58, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
Perfect! I really appreciate it. RGloucester 06:03, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

Editor of the Week[edit]

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Your ongoing efforts to improve the encyclopedia have not gone unnoticed: You have been selected as Editor of the Week, for being so kind to others and calming down many edit wars. Thank you for the great contributions! (courtesy of the Wikipedia Editor Retention Project)

User:Buster7 submitted the following nomination for Editor of the Week:

I nominate Iryna Harpy as Editor of the Week. She approaches all matters in good faith and has her heart in the right "humanitarian" place. She gets involved with calming down many edit wars, POV pushing and editor disputes. She steps into conflicts and makes clear, understandable distinctions for both sides. She works on articles about ex-Soviet republics, the Balkans and the Middle East, fighting POV fanatics and is willing to expend inordinate amounts of time following their trails and reverting where necessary. She is happy to avail herself in discussions surrounding content and has cultivated an ability to remain as objective as is possible...."committed to accessibility without sacrificing comprehension". In her own words she "lives the life of the NPOV Wikipedian, happy to clarify distinctions". A fellow editor thanked her for "..disagreeing without being disagreeable". Not many editors can get that level of acclaim.


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Iryna Harpy
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Editor of the Week
for the week beginning June 29, 2014
Reduces editor conflict on articles about ex-Soviet republics, the Balkans and the Middle East.
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"...disagreeing without being disagreeable".
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Thanks again for your efforts! Jim Carter (talk) 08:16, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

Thank you, Buster7 and Jim Cartar! That's sweet... and much appreciated. Face-smile.svg --Iryna Harpy (talk) 06:37, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
You deserve this award for your outstanding work. Thank you. Jim Carter (talk) 11:30, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
  • Congratulations! You deserve this award, surely. Your civil stalwartness is much appreciated. RGloucester 15:51, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
  • Congratulations from me as well. You are doing a great job, even though it may often seem that no one notices. Some do! :)—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); June 30, 2014; 16:15 (UTC)

Please help[edit]

Please have a look at this and help if possible, I have no idea who to turn to with this so I'm trying to contact more experienced Wikipedians that I've come across.

--Samotny Wędrowiec (talk) 22:27, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

Yes, I do agree to an extent. There are some editors who have a high profile in having refactored history (or Polonized it dramatically in the past, although Polish editors are not the only Slavic editors to do so). I don't think that writing a comment on the Polish article talk page is going to get results. The only way to address the issue is to actually find evidence of the WP:CHERRYpicking and refactoring, then take the individuals before an AN/I. Some may have already been involved in arbitration and sanctions (you can follow various links from these arbitration and sanctions cases to a number of dedicated pages). --Iryna Harpy (talk) 01:59, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

Francis Brabrazon[edit]

Thank you for your ongoing interest. SaintAviator talk 08:12, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

You're welcome! Unfortunately, we started off on the wrong foot, for which I apologise. I'll continue keeping my eye on the article in case POV pushers from any side decide to turn it into something less than encyclopaedic and informative. Cheers! --Iryna Harpy (talk) 01:42, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
Irnya I apologise too. I think we fought because we are alike. Lol. Anyway I checked out your WP contributions and like your inputs. You are fair and even tempered. SaintAviator talk 23:26, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
I suspect we're both sticklers for policy... and that can sometimes come off as being inadvertently bullish. While Wikipedia is a magnificent concept, we're all at the disadvantage of only being able to communicate via missives rather than face-to-face. Happy editing! --Iryna Harpy (talk) 00:10, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
Agree with that. Lol. BTW, just opened a soc investigation here. Guys becoming uncivil too. [[3]]. SaintAviator talk 06:51, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
Okay, I've just added the investigation page to my watchlist. I'm logging out for the day, but will check in on how things are progressing tomorrow. Cheers for now! --Iryna Harpy (talk) 06:57, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

You don't own this Wikipedia[edit]

If you don't understand (doesn't make any sense), read books rather than removing the truth.Xx236 (talk) 06:46, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

You are not making any sense whatsoever. I know you love using article talk pages as a WP:SOAPBOX, but you don't belong here. In fact, you're WP:NOTHERE! I certainly don't own Wikipedia, but I know a WP:TROLL when I come across one. Take your forum babble to an actual forum, or write your own blog. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 10:22, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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For your diligence and for your very valuable contributions concerning to the 2014 pro-Russian conflict in Ukraine and related articles. Mondolkiri1 (talk) 22:00, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
Thank you so much, Mondolkiri1. Much appreciated! --Iryna Harpy (talk) 23:30, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

Possible page about the Ukrainian community in Portugal[edit]

Iryna, since you're of Ukrainian descent and I am from Portugal, and Portugal, by what I've seen, has the 2nd largest Ukrainian community in Western Europe (only behind Italy), with between 40-150 thousand people (figure from wikipedia), do you think it could be a good idea to start a page about this community, in Portugal? I'd be very glad to contribute for such eventual page!Mondolkiri1 (talk) 22:14, 7 July 2014 (UTC) |}

Award[edit]

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I give you this Order of Prince Yaroslav the Wise for your very useful edits in Ukrainian related Wikipedia articles during your Wikipedia career!
Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 19:11, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
Дякую дуже! Face-smile.svg --Iryna Harpy (talk) 03:50, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

Russian language map[edit]

No, the issue hasn't been resolved. The map suggested by Giorgi doesn't include several states and regions in which the Russian language is official. I completely agree with you in the sense that there is enough edit warring, and you returning the incorrect map doesn't help. We cannot ignore the official status of the Russian language in the regions. --WhyHellWhy (talk) 02:50, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

My response is to be found on the relevant talk page. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 04:36, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

Special:Diff/616679907[edit]

Just in case you didn't see it, this revision's edit summary mentioned you. Dustin (talk) 18:22, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up, Dustin. This user has been problematic and confrontational since becoming a contributor earlier in the year. Time to report him/her for edit warring. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 22:55, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
It was no problem. Face-smile.svg Dustin (talk) 23:03, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

Impersonation[edit]

We've both been impersonated today, by horrid sock-puppets of L'Aquotique. Please note that none of the comments on Hilltrot's talk page came from me. They were all made by RGloucaster (talk · contribs). I've really been made a fool of. I'm surprised you didn't catch it, to be honest, as that fellow sounds nothing like me, and I'm sure you are aware that I spent a ton of time arguing against inclusion of that paragraph back when we first found it in the text a few months ago. Regardless, L'Aquotique did not stop there. He/she also tried to impersonate you with Iryna Harpey (talk · contribs). This has confused Hilltrot into harbouring some distaste for me, and I'm not sure how to remedy the situation. Regardless, I just wanted to make this a bit clear. Keep on the lookout for more of these little socks… RGloucester 04:42, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

I wasn't directly involved, but I happened upon the discussion on Hilltrot's page when it was first created, so I came back to it at one point, and when I looked at the page history and saw edits by RGloucaster, I was like, "that is not right". I remember that RGloucester's name was derived from Richard, Duke of Gloucester (yeah, I tend to remember stuff like that and whatnot), so I went to the page and discovered that it was a sock puppet of that user L'Aquotique. After that, I struck through the false comments to help, and it was not a problem. One of the sockmasters I deal with is far more persistent and insulting than L'Aquotique. This sockmaster has used over 200 false accounts and over 200 individual IP addresses. L'Aquotique isn't a problem compared to this user, but I am still sorry that you have been impersonated, though. Dustin (talk) 05:33, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
I've dealt with other sockmasters who cause more disruption, but I've never had one try to have a conversation with his/herself, for no real reason that I can see. Most sockmasters, in my experience, have a goal or target. I know one, for example, that insists on using Imperial units in all articles, and creates endless accounts for the purpose of Imperialising the project. This fellow just appears to be trolling for no reason other than to troll, has no goal, and enjoys talking to his/herself. Pretty queer, if I do say so. RGloucester 05:40, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
What a trite, vacuous little life this insidious piece of vermin must lead. Le k'nickers to L'Aquotique! Face-smile.svg --Iryna Harpy (talk) 05:50, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
Some might consider that tempting the vandals, so proceed with caution. In any case, the sockmaster I am dealing with only started vandalizing after getting blocked for a different reason. Dustin (talk) 05:54, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
This is completely unimportant, but that name "L'Aquotique" sounds French for some reason. Well, that's all I will say for now. Dustin (talk) 05:55, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
Sorry I keep adding stuff, but see this revision? Dustin (talk) 05:59, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
Probably should be reported. I'd certainly understand this person to be psychologically capable of self-harm. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 06:06, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
It was a several days ago, and L'Aquotique has obviously not killed him/herself. While it's most likely an empty threat, perhaps we should discuss this tomorrow; if L'Aquotique was being honest, then the account L'Aquotique is only a sock puppet of yet another sockmaster. (I won't be able to do much for another 8.5 hours or so; I am going to bed). Dustin (talk) 06:10, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
Okay. It is probably worth discussing (just in case). Unstable personalities can do harm other than commit suicide... but, yes, probably just an empty threat. Sleep well, and we'll talk in the morning. Goodnight! —Iryna Harpy (talk) 06:16, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
  • I've already asked about that particular remark at one of the SPI cases. The checkuser said that those two accounts are not related. As far as the name of the user, it was meant to be an impersonation of User:L'Aquatique. Originally, before the page was deleted, L'Aquotique had copied L'Aquatique's user-page, to make one think he/she was a sysop. If you look at many of the accounts used by him/her, they follow a pattern of impersonation. RGloucester 06:21, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
Hmm. Sounds as though it's someone who's more interested in going out with a bang rather than a whimper... but unlikely to actually be interested in the bang. I suppose there isn't much to be done other than to leave it with the checkusers. As atypical as the behaviour is for a standard troll, it doesn't seem likely that they are interested in actually engaging with anyone other than themselves. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 06:34, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
I think it may be French after all; L'Aquatique appears to translate to "The Water". Also thanks to RGloucester for dealing with the BjeliRabac issue before I even brought it up. Also, while not as severe in reality, I believe I once heard a checkuser say something like "a dog dies every other time we block a user" (when the users they are blocking threaten to "shoot their dogs"). So maybe there is something to the threats, but there most likely isn't. Dustin (talk) 14:45, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
Sadly, cyberspace is the ultimate domain for anonymity and lack of accountability. Sad, frustrated and downright malicious personalities are going to be attracted. We can't deal with every one of them on a personal level, nor should we feel ourselves liable for their actions. Just look at the subject matter we deal with: as if that weren't tragic and horrifying enough. The one thing I finally managed to learn in my professional life was to switch off at a point at which I realised I had done all I could for an individual. Whoever this person may be, I can only hope they find their own way to coming to terms with existence without inflicting themselves on others (including helpless animals). The world is a complex and hostile place for too many already. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 22:39, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

Need opinion[edit]

Dear fellow, please give your valuable comments on Talk:Religion in Russia#Is this census reliable?Thanks.Septate (talk) 15:21, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
Yes, I caught up with the discussion this morning (as it's on my watchlist). I'm just going to check around for other sources and comment on the page. Cheers! --Iryna Harpy (talk) 23:39, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

Revert of IP editor[edit]

Discussion regarding use of South-East Ukraine moved to Talk:Ukraine page.

→ --Iryna Harpy (talk) 06:28, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

Religion in Germany[edit]

Please take notice of Religion in Germany. A user is modifying lede and removing sourced material without proper con census. I cannot revert his edits because I am a mobile user.Thanks.Septate (talk) 14:59, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

Okay. I've left my opinion on the relevant talk page. In this instance, I think you need to produce some solid arguments for introducing the supplementary content. Personally, my preference is for relying on an official census unless it is extremely dated or has been identified as having unequivocal fundamental flaws (such the Russian census). I'll take a look at the article in detail in the next couple of days in order to establish whether supplementary information from reliable sources can and should be worked into the content. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 01:23, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

Minor business[edit]

Ms Harpy, I was wondering if you could help me with some minor business. I've added some information to 2014 insurgency in Donbass from this OSCE report. It mentions a place in Kharkiv Oblast called "Havrishi", but I can find no trace of this place on any maps, or in any Google searches. I figured that this was some kind of transliteration error, or something like that, but I can't seem to figure it out. I'd like to be able to know where it is, so that I can verify the account for the sake of the article. I thought I'd ask if you could transliterate the name back into Cyrillic, so that perhaps I can look for it on Ukrainian/Russian maps or on the Ukrainian/Russian Wikipedia. Thanks very much in advance. RGloucester 21:39, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

Hi, Richard. It appears to be (coordinates) Havryshi in Bohodukhiv Raion. Hope this helps... and, please, call me Iryna. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 00:15, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
Thanks very much, Iryna! That was giving me a headache. RGloucester 00:19, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
It actually took me about 15 minutes to work it out! My first response was to think that the 'aitch' could be wrong. OSCE simply confused the transliteration of 'y' and 'i'. It's amazing how little it takes to throw everything into confusion. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 00:27, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

Dispute at Russia[edit]

Hello! There is a DR/N request you may have interest in.[edit]

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This message is being sent to let you know of a discussion at the Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard regarding a content dispute discussion you may have participated in. Content disputes can hold up article development and make editing difficult for editors. You are not required to participate, but you are both invited and encouraged to help find a resolution. Please join us to help form a consensus. Thank you!. You are being notified because you tried to reason with another editor, not because of any issues with your behavior. Robert McClenon (talk) 19:54, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for informing me, Robert McClenon. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 01:45, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

Untitled[edit]

Ms. Harpy, You are actually really bothering me. I don't really understand what you are talking about, and you are making me afraid. I ask your assistance in resolving this matter either by you explaining what you are saying to me without using links or slang or by directing me how to make a grievance against you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.164.226.48 (talk) 01:32, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

Please don't panic, 75.164.226.48. The above notice refers to a completely unrelated matter. Please do not be intimidated by the 'slang'. I am merely providing you with links to policies and guidelines relevant to your use of talk pages. The notices on your IP talk page/s (as I've noted, you appear to have a dynamic IP, meaning that your ISP constantly resets your IP address so that it doesn't point to the same IP address each time you leave a comment) are for your edification pertaining to Wikipedia rules for editing and interacting with other editors. Please make a little time to read these 'rules' in order that you understand the methodology for contributing to Wikipedia. I am not reprimanding you, but am trying to help you out should be be interested in becoming a Wikipedian. Happy editing! --Iryna Harpy (talk) 01:56, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

So what exactly are you talking about: I believe you wrote that I have not provided proper sourcing in the freedom of speech talk page?75.164.226.48 (talk) 02:05, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

That is correct. You have been discussing the matter in abstractions rather than providing reliable secondary sources to illustrate and support your contentions. In order to discuss changing the content of an article, the onus is on you provide sources (not simply personal opinions or analogies which are original research). Neither is it considered appropriate to leave messages on other editor's pages positioning yourself as an authority over and above that editor. Wikipedia policy is very clear on this matter: "Do not make personal attacks anywhere in Wikipedia. Comment on content, not on the contributor." --Iryna Harpy (talk) 22:28, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

Personal Note[edit]

My wife is a Russian-speaking Ukrainian and her "Ukrainian" name was Iryna as well (used in all official documents, passport, etc.). She changed it to Irina when she got her US citizenship. Of course, no matter how they spell it, Americans still call her "Eye-reen-uh". --Taivo (talk) 22:53, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

Tfoo! My name was Anglicised to Irene. Initially, I would ask friends and colleagues to call me Iryna, but it almost invariably came out as "Eye-reen-uh". I've opted to go back to Irene simply because it doesn't make me want to punch them as much as the horrendously bastardised variant. Just call me Chuckles! --Iryna Harpy (talk) 23:48, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

Russia GDP misleading information[edit]

Iryna the information on your edit change on Russia's GDP[4] needs to be addressed referring to Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard "Talk:Russia#MISTAKE IN RANKING NOMINAL GDP.It's 9th![5] which user Gladio4772 has been acting on ip hoping pushing the same discussion on anti Russian statements by creating new user names and pushing the same agenda (Russia GDP, denouncing Russia as a superpower, Russia kicked out of G8 and more - links of ip's and user names history down below. So I am reporting this problem with the administrator's on Gladio4772.
The facts are Russia is the 5th largest GDP economy now and is the biggest in Europe http://rbth.com/business/2013/07/17/russian_economy_becomes_biggest_in_europe_28149.html
Here's the facts http://rt.com/business/russia-gdp-5th-largest-158/
http://thebricspost.com/russia-ranked-5th-largest-economy-world-bank/#.U7x7oE1OXnM::::http://en.ria.ru/business/20130715/182248723/Medvedev-Lauds-Russias-5th-Place-in-World-Banks-GDP-Rating.html
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/business/article/russia-takes-5th-place-in-world-gdp-rankings/483190.html
http://www.bne.eu/content/moscow-blog-russia-overtakes-germany-become-5th-largest-economy
http://www.fundweb.co.uk/emerging/russia-now-worlds-fifth-largest-economy-in-gdp-terms/1075160.article
http://rbth.com/business/2013/07/17/russian_economy_becomes_biggest_in_europe_28149.html
Gladio4772's is ip hoping and using user names on this adenge, his history is here[6] and ip as 151.40.13.125 for disruptive ip hoping on these same discussions, speaking against Russia in all ip’s I found below have been using. All the same editor, all ip addresses are from Florence Italy. I am reporting his comments as all the same wording slamming disruptive edits against Russia since 2013 that this is not effective when users like this are disruptive and are doing the opposite. See the links of the contributes starting July 8, 2014‎ - 151.40.13.161[7] , July 7, 2014 151.40.45.125[8], March 17, 2014 - 151.40.95.82[9], April 2013 - Bocca Trabaria[10], March 2014 - 151.40.24.9 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/151.40.24.9], March 2014 -151.40.7.192[11], Sept 23, 2013 - 151.40.18.30[12], Sept 15, 2013 - 151.40.55.125[13], March 18, 2014 - 151.40.35.236[14], March 18, 2014 - 151.40.9.149[15], March 17, 2014 - 151.40.72.141[16], March 16, 2014 - 151.40.14.179[17], March 16, 2014 - 151.40.83.17[18], March 15, 2014 - 151.40.69.199[19], March 15, 2014 - 151.40.34.218[20], March 15, 2014 - 151.40.120.19[21], Feb 4, 2014 - 151.40.63.30[22], Feb 4, 2014- 151.40.16.167[23], Dec 28, 2013 - 151.40.107.93[24], Dec 27, 2013 - 151.40.27.25[25], Dec 27, 2013 - 151.40.64.77[26], Dec 25, 2013 - 151.40.54.32[27], Dec 23, 2013 - 151.40.41.170[28], Dec 22, 2013 - 151.40.9.139[29], Sept 8, 2013 - 151.40.102.200[30], August 14, 2013 - 151.40.125.50[31], May 10, 2013 – Mediolanum[32], Oct 22, 2013 - Glc72[33], May 21, 2013 - 151.40.11.180[34], May 14, 2013 -151.40.59.151[35], May 14, 2013 - 151.40.60.108[36], May 11, 2013 - Bocca_Trabaria[37]
Gladio4772 you’re not fooling anybody with your ip hoping pushing on your anti Russian statements on the same subjects.
--198.23.81.141 (talk) 19:46, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
I will respond to your missive on the "Russia" talk page where you have posted the identical information. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 23:42, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

1)Please Iryna i ask you to correct 8th referred to nominal gdp also at the start of the article.It' seems that Russia is 8th by 2014.The citation aside is referred to 2013. 2)I'd like to be your friend ...if you like).Image now not only i consider you a lot but make you as gift also flowers)I like a lot callas)If i could i give you a star to recognize what you did ,but i think i can send jsut flowrs,the best ones).Gladio4772 (talk) 05:40, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

Yes, I've found it in the lead and have changed it to 9th there, too. So, between us, we've established that there were three instances of the wrong ranking. Do you mean calla lilies? I LOVE calla lilies, so thank you for the gift! Incidentally, I also have bipolar disorder, so you don't need to explain what it's like when you're going through a bad patch. I understand it very, very well. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 05:57, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

Thank a lot.I feel you now so close.I think that people with particular problems (not too great that can't be managed) should be helped and not hit in Wikipedia.This would be civil for a site like this.You acted in a wonderful way.In the past (some years ago) i wrote totally or partially several articles on Wikipedia, then i stopped because of ill).In the real life i'm Giosue' Lorenzo Campi and i'm in Linkedin .If you are there....as you like).I admire you!)Gladio4772 (talk) 06:06, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

No, I no longer have an account with linkedin since I retired from work. I am here, though, on most days. Wikipedia actually has all sorts of volunteers with disabilities contributing, and is a very tolerant and friendly community. Sadly, that's not to say that there aren't intolerant people here. Some articles and users can be very difficult and unpleasant at times. Cheers for now. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 06:27, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

To you too).My email is giosuecampi@libero.it.I'm always open to you!Always).Gladio4772 (talk) 07:16, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

A kitten for you![edit]

Kitten in a helmet.jpg

Wonderful woman

Gladio4772 (talk) 07:18, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

Iryna 64...is lasting in attacking me in areally disturbing way.I suppose he his the same person with IP 198......How can i block them?Gladio4772 (talk) 09:49, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

Please Iryna explain you to Keithbob in few words.You are better than me in explaining all).Gladio4772 (talk) 18:35, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

March of Ukrainian Nationalists[edit]

Hi. Can you take a look at this: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/March of Ukrainian Nationalists? It looks like someone wants to delete the article for political reasons.--BoguSlav 16:02, 23 July 2014 (UTC)