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Talk:United States[edit]

It is never okay to edit someone else's comments, except to remove a personal attack. Please do not do it again. --Golbez (talk) 23:27, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

April 2010[edit]

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Your recent edits[edit]

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Autopatrolled[edit]

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Welcome toWikiProject United States[edit]

I just wanted to say welcome to the project. --Kumioko (talk) 22:26, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

May 2011 Newsletter for WikiProject United States[edit]

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WikiProject United States History[edit]

Greetings, It was recently suggested that WikiProject United States History might be inactive or semiactive and that it might be beneficial to include it in the list of projects supported by WikiProject United States.

I have started a discussion and will contact each of the active members for their comments and input on the suggestion. Please take a moment and add your comments to the discussion or feel free to contact me if you have any questions. --Kumioko (talk) 19:43, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

US National Archives collaboration[edit]

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United States National Archives WikiProject
Would you like to help improve Wikipedia's coverage of topics related to the National Archives and its incredible collection? This summer, the National Archives—which houses some of America's most important historical documents—is hosting me as its Wikipedian in Residence, and I have created WP:NARA to launch these efforts.

There are all sorts of tasks available for any type of editor, whether you're a writer, organizer, gnome, coder, or image guru. The National Archives is making its resources available to Wikipedia, so help us forge this important relationship! Please sign up and introduce yourself. Dominic·t 15:22, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

July 2011 Newsletter for WikiProject United States[edit]

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September 2011 Newsletter for WikiProject United States[edit]

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--Kumioko (talk) 21:18, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

Thanks[edit]

Thanks for your editing and contributions to the Pedro de Ibarra page. We were pleased to find it and link it to our page. --Alvaro_Mexia (talk) 00:46, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

New Page Patrol survey[edit]

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November 2011[edit]

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute to the encyclopedia, one or more of the external links you added to the page Portuguese Argentine do not comply with our guidelines for external links and have been removed. Wikipedia is not a collection of links; nor should it be used as a platform for advertising or promotion, and doing so is contrary to the goals of this project. Because Wikipedia uses nofollow tags, external links do not alter search engine rankings. If you feel the link should be added to the article, please discuss it on the article's talk page before reinserting it. Please take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. Thank you. andy4789 · (talk? contribs?) 19:24, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

December 2011 Newsletter for WikiProject United States[edit]

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January 2012 Newsletter for WikiProject United States and supported projects[edit]

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List of Puerto Ricans[edit]

Sorry, but the instructions clearly state that "each addition to the list must also provide a reliable verifiable source which cites the person's notability and/or the person's link to Puerto Rico, otherwise the name will be removed." There are no exceptions and the rules apply to everyone. Therefore, the names of Deborah Aguiar-Vélez and John Rodriguez have been remmoved. You may add them once more with the references that are required. Tony the Marine (talk) 14:20, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Rudy Pérez[edit]

Hi, I have noticed you are the major contributor the article Rudy Pérez. I have found two major problems with this article in that it is not written in a neutral point of view, and some of the text is copied and pasted, with only very slight alterations to the wording. I would very much appreciate it if you can help me improve on the article. I would also recommend reading WP:NPOV and WP:C-P. Thanks! Kinkreet~♥moshi moshi♥~ 23:55, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

Talkback[edit]

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Nomination for deletion of Template:Peoples of the world[edit]

Ambox warning pn.svgTemplate:Peoples of the world has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Night of the Big Wind talk 12:41, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Latin American music task force[edit]

Hello Isinbill! I've noticed your works on articles related to Latin American music. I would like to invite you to the Latin American music task force a collaborative effort which aims to create, expand, and maintain Latin American music-related articles. If you'd like to join, please sign up here. Thank you. Erick (talk) 23:21, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

WP:Latin music members[edit]

Hello, I posted a message on WP:Latin music about a future collaboration between all members to bring Latin music to FA status. Please join in the discussion :) Best, Jonayo! Selena 4 ever 22:47, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Classical music biographies[edit]

Please do not add infoboxes to articles on Classical musicians per Wikipedia:WikiProject Classical music#Biographical_infoboxes. Thank you.MisterCSharp (talk) 12:29, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

Nicaragua/Yemen[edit]

Thanks for editing the pages: Nicaraguan American and Yemeni-American. I will try to help making them better. Biol. Cons. (talk) 00:01, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

Ethiopian American[edit]

wikipedia has many references that is not an excuse because all information must be referenced and verified as this is an encyclopedia. Just the fact that the history section needs references is what made that the label of references be placed in the article. All the information of wikipedia should be referenced. Meanwhile, Ethiopian students, most could have returned to Ethiopia but who emigrated because of war and poverty in their country are living in the United States until the situation in their country change, and are their descendants basically who founded the community of Ethiopian Americans. --Isinbill (talk) 02:09, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Correction: all information must be reliably and neutrally referenced. The fact remains, however, that everyculture.com is not a reliable source. It is self-published source, just like Wikipedia. As such, it makes no difference if the webpage is appended with references. Self-published sources in general are discouraged, especially with regard to material on living people (which would include Ethiopian Americans). Per WP:SPS:

Anyone can create a personal web page or pay to have a book published, and then claim to be an expert in a certain field. For that reason, self-published media, such as books, patents, newsletters, personal websites, open wikis, personal or group blogs, Internet forum postings, and tweets, are largely not acceptable as sources. Self-published expert sources may be considered reliable when produced by an established expert on the topic of the article, whose work in the relevant field has previously been published by reliable third-party publications.[1] Take care when using such sources: if the information in question is really worth reporting, someone else will probably have done so.[2] Never use self-published sources as third-party sources about living people, even if the author is an expert, well-known professional researcher, or writer.

Regards, Middayexpress (talk) 13:55, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
  1. ^ Please do note that any exceptional claim would require exceptional sources
  2. ^ Self published material is characterized by the lack of independent reviewers (those without a conflict of interest) validating the reliability of contents. Further examples of self published sources include press releases, material contained within company websites, advertising campaigns, material published in media by the owner(s)/publisher(s) of the media group, self-released music albums and electoral manifestos:
    • The University of California, Berkeley library states: "Most pages found in general search engines for the web are self-published or published by businesses small and large with motives to get you to buy something or believe a point of view. Even within university and library web sites, there can be many pages that the institution does not try to oversee."
    • Princeton University offers this understanding in its publication, Academic Integrity at Princeton (2011): "Unlike most books and journal articles, which undergo strict editorial review before publication, much of the information on the Web is self-published. To be sure, there are many websites in which you can have confidence: mainstream newspapers, refereed electronic journals, and university, library, and government collections of data. But for vast amounts of Web-based information, no impartial reviewers have evaluated the accuracy or fairness of such material before it's made instantly available across the globe."
    • The Chicago Manual of Style, 16th Edition states that "any Internet site that does not have a specific publisher or sponsoring body should be treated as unpublished or self-published work."

Wikipedia Loves Libraries Seattle[edit]

Decemmber 8 - Wikipedia Loves Libraries Seattle - You're invited
Seattle Public Library
  • Date Saturday, December 8, 2012
  • Time 10 a.m. – 3 p.m.
  • Location Seattle Public Library Meeting Room 1 on Level 4, Central Library, 1000 4th Avenue, Seattle WA, 98104
  • Event An editathon on Seattle-related Wikipedia articles with Wikipedia tutorials and Librarian assistance on hand.
  • Hashtag #wikiloveslib or #glamwiki.
  • Registration http://wll-seattle.eventbrite.com or use on-wiki regsistration.

Yours, Maximilianklein (talk) 03:02, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

Nomination of Yakut American for deletion[edit]

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Proposed deletion of Angolans in Brazil[edit]

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The article Angolans in Brazil has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

modern-day migration appears non-notable in spite of common language; colonial past can be covered by Slavery in Brazil

Article was recreated after AfD deletion: Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Log/2008_December_23#Angolan_Brazilian. All accounts in favor of keeping were deemed sock puppets: Wikipedia:Suspected_sock_puppets/Troy86.

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Jean de Kindelan[edit]

Hi Isinbill - perhaps I can interest you in Jean de Kindelan as you have been the main editor of the Sebastián Kindelán y O’Regan article ?? Also, I have a need for an editor with excellent Spanish and perhaps good French to explore items that can be found via google but which I cannot understand well!! Jean de Kindelan (or Juan) was a Spanish Army Officer who served Napoleon in the Division of the North and was excluded from the plans to escape from Denmark in 1808 because of his pro-French opinions. ( We can easily read the Danish accounts!) Are you interested? or do you know of another Spanish speaker on English Wikipedia who might help? Thanks in advance Viking1808 (talk) 09:56, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

Lalo Rios[edit]

Thanks, it was just a random adding sources to bios. Sure, happy to help add more info In ictu oculi (talk) 14:31, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

Eritrean Americans[edit]

Hi. Kindly stop revert warring on the Eritrean American article. Your unjustified removal of the collage and images is unacceptable and smacks of WP:GOAT. Please desist from this. I would also like to discuss with you the validity of the so-called "North African American" neologism. If we cannot come to an agreement on this, I will nominate the page for deletion. Regards, Middayexpress (talk) 19:32, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

I do not think I'm doing any vandalism. I provided information that you deleted it and sustituiste other. However, one of the references that you used was the one I used for my information. You deleted it my information, and changed by another, using, among your sources, which I had used, when you could simply have deposited your information with mine without removing anything (why remove my information for re-inclusion you with your words?). I do not eliminated your contributions, which you you included after me, I just ask you to accept my contributions. You also say that my images are unacceptable, even having left three of the five that I included in the article. I really do not know what happens. And as the article of the North African Americans, I've just thought to call it North African in United States(this is just a topic that interests me and which I wanted to do an article).--Isinbill (talk) 19:44, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
Well, you changed the text to indicate that most Eritreans arrived in the 1980s, when they actually arrived in the 1990s. It was specifically during the 1965-1991 period when most Eritrean immigrants in the 1980s. The bulk of Eritrean Americans as a whole actually arrived later, following the civil Eritrean/Ethiopian conflicts. Regarding the images, you removed the collage I created and replaced it with individual images, including some of people who are only distantly of Eritrean ancestry, are not born in Eritrea, have never lived there, and are not really a part of the Eritrean community abroad either. You also removed the community center and restaurant pics. That said, I agree that renaming the North African American page would be an adequate solution. Regards, Middayexpress (talk) 19:56, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
Now I'm not sure if I Should leave the answer here or on my page for you to read ... Qwanell Mosley and Nipsey Hussle, whose photos I included in the article, are people who have a parent Eritrean each. And I I repeat, you deleted it all the information I included to rewrite most of them with your words, basing on the same reference that I used. For that, it would have been better to accept my information, at least for the most part.--Isinbill (talk) 20:06, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
Actually, what you indicated in several instances differed from what the link says. The most conspicuous example of this was when you wrote that most Eritreans arrived during the 1980s, when the link actually states that most who arrived during the 1965-1991 period specifically came during the 1980s (as opposed to the 60s, 70s, or 1990-91). This was probably a mistake, but an error all the same. Also note that the link is on the Eritrean population in one city, not everywhere. The wiki English was also sub-par, so I rendered it more encyclopedic. As for those two gentlemen, they are only partially Eritrean, were not born in Eritrea, have never lived there, nor are they really part of the Eritrea community abroad. The purpose of the infobox image area is to show notable representatives of the community, not just any person, famous or otherwise, who happens to have some Eritrean ancestry. Middayexpress (talk) 20:22, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
Pictures of people that are only partially descended ethnic group speaks of an article (in the case of the pictures I got, 50%), located in the data box of the article, is something that is repeated in almost all wikipedia articles that talk about ethnic groups. That yu can see on items such as English American or German American. Furthermore, the fact that I've made ​​some mistakes does not mean you have to remove all information that I included and re-write it for the most part, in the item, in other words.--Isinbill (talk) 20:35, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
Kindly stop arguing for the sake of arguing. Several bits of that material was actually wrong, as already explained. And yes, per WP:COMPETENCE, material should be written in proper English, and in a neutral, encyclopedic register, which I saw to. The fact that you didn't spell "North Africans in the United States" correctly only further demonstrates that proper English is an issue here. As for the pics, I never stated that peoples of partial ancestry should not be included on that basis alone. I said in my last line above that despite the fact that the gentlemen in question have some Eritrean ancestry, they are not representative of the community because they were not born in Eritrea, have never lived there, and are not really part of the Eritrean community abroad either. Ella Thomas, on the other hand, is representative because she was born in Eritrea and is an active part of the Eritrean diaspora as well. Also, please post your response if any here so that the discussion is all in one place. Middayexpress (talk) 20:49, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
No need to have been born or raised in the United States to be an Eritrean American, just that he descends from Eritreans, but has always lived in the U.S., as you put it in the introduction of the article.--Isinbill (talk) 20:57, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
With respect, that's a strawman. And for the second and last time, please remember to post any future responses here where the full discussion is found. No need to double post. Middayexpress (talk) 21:06, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
Ok. If it is true the that you said, I think it's good for article, delete the information I adhered on it, if that information was bad spelling and should be corrected it, so as to enhance the interpretation that I made on some points of the source on which I relied. While the source, although basically it speaking of Chicago, the beginning of the article talked about the reasons for the Eritrean emigration and showed some data on their migration in the United States in general. These data were the ones I took (not the data of Chicago, because before you said that the references only spoke of a place). As for the photos, although I accept them as they are now (as thou put it), I do believe that an American that is 50% Eritrean can also feel very connected to Eritrea and joined the Eritrean American population (many Americans that descending only a partial origin still feel part of that origin, even some celebrities). Just want to ask you a favor: When you delete the information that I include in an article, do you can send me a message telling me and explaining the reasons for the removal please?, because this should not take me by surprise and disappointment, to see how my contributions (if are many) are removed without explication. Regards. --Isinbill (talk) 23:38, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
Actually, I did inform you of what was the problem in my edit summary, and was the only one to do so. I also started this talk page discussion, so I don't see what there is to be surprised about. At any rate, most of that link was on Eritreans in Chicago. Your redaction of it was incorrect in spots, as already explained, and I fixed that. There were also grammar and tone-related issues which I adjusted. Lastly, I never said that someone of 50% Eritrean ancestry cannot feel very connected to Eritrea. If that had been my argument, Ella Thomas obviously wouldn't have been included since she too has a non-Eritrean parent. The difference is that she is nonetheless representative of Eritreans in the States because she was born in Eritrea and is an active part of the Eritrean diaspora as well. She's not just someone who happens to have some Eritrean ancestry. Regards, Middayexpress (talk) 14:04, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
I wanted to clarify that I meant that I only used the information from the beginning of the article Eritreans of Chicago, from the source of the Encyclopedia of Chicago, where he talked about the reasons for the emigration Eritrean and some general information about your precensia in the U.S., I did not use more data from that reference. Although that was the only one I used (I understood how you thought I was saying have used various sources and you just saw that). As for the correcting my spelling and sentences of the article based on that reference, I said that I´m agree in your made changes in the article to that it can be understood better and have a better spelling in it. So I have nothing more to object to that effect. Regards,--Isinbill (talk) 17:30, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Love history & culture? Get involved in WikiProject World Digital Library![edit]

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Love history & culture? Get involved in WikiProject World Digital Library![edit]

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"Afro-Dominican" vs. "Black Dominican"[edit]

The issue is that in the Dominican Republic is inconceivable to say that "Afro-dominicans" are an ethnic group. The article was written to portrait the North American point of view of the races and ethnics, following the "One drop rule", which claims that all offspring of an African will always be African, but not all offspring of an European is European. That has nothing to do with the Dominican situation, and is nonsense to apply that in this article. I found remarkable that just 3 days ago, Listín Diario, the major Dominican newspaper, published about this issue: ¡Dominicano, no seas un color!

This article is about a Dominican ethnicity and it must be about what is for Dominicans that ethnic, because ethnics are a social contruct, not like races that are a scientific and a genetic construct. There must be an article about black Dominicans and another one about multiracial Dominicans.

The Afro-Dominican article was heavily biased and was abundantly about how "African Dominicans" reneged on their "blackness" and "preferring" their "white side". (Some biased sentences were changed by me, before I did the Move to Black Dominican)

An ethnic includes a cultural factor that race does not have. Because in the United States most of multiracial people where born to black female slaves and white male owners, they continued to dwell with blacks and where raised by blacks in places where they were rejected because of their "blackhood", and now they are known as "African Americans" too in that country, like non-mixed ones. But in the Spanish Empire, the situation was different. Most of racial mixture was a result of marriages where white parents in racial-mixed families gave to their children their education and transferred to them their culture.

The Spaniard anthropologist Claudio Esteva Fabregat, states in his work "La hispanización del mestizaje cultural en América" (The Hispanization of the cultural miscegenation in the Americas, page 35/43 in the PDF doc) that Santo Domingo is culturally a "predominantly European, with an strong African contribution and scarce indigenous contributions" nation.

Nacho Mailbox ★ 22:00, 26 May 2013 (UTC)


Well, the way that that article is written is to meant that Afro-Dominicans are an ethnic group, also there is an Ethnic Group’s infobox in that article; I try to correct the article’s misconceptions, but you undid the changes I made, so I tried to explain to you why I did those changes. It is not that you did actually said that, but you made me think that you might have thought so, or that you just could have been confused, because much of the article suggests that racial blacks and racial mulattoes are of a same ethnicity (like in the United States). Nacho Mailbox ★ 00:14, 28 May 2013 (UTC)


A cookie for you![edit]

Choco chip cookie.png I saw your recent edits on people groups in various places and I think you're doing a good job! Rosiestep (talk) 00:03, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Nonsense edits at Template:Asian Americans[edit]

I noticed your recent edit to the template [1]. Your edit is marred with WP:OR and is far too unconcise for a template. For example, for footnote 1 saying "The Middle East is geographically in Asia; According to the US Census Bureau persons in any of the original people of the Middle East are White American" is more than enough for a template. Claiming the "The term "Asian" is officially used by the USA governmment [to] refer to the racial populations originating from East Asia ([from] Pakistan to the Asian Pacific)" is completely original research, as no one (or at least no one sourced) call Pakistan East Asian. Also, dragging in discredit racial typologies (i.e., Caucasian) is just wrong and confusing (and this is in part because the government is using them wrong as well); for example, South Asians like myself are cranially categorized as Caucasian (though the genetics disagrees to some extent) yet we are Asian and recognized as Asian. Please use the talk page before attempting to revert back. Thegreyanomaly (talk) 15:49, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Isleños[edit]

Hi. I noticed that the Isleño American article you've been working on is starting to get a little long. It's great that you've collected so much information. I'm not sure if it is a good idea or not, but what if you could create separate articles on Isleños in Louisiana, Isleños in Texas, etc? That way some of the information could be moved and the main article on Isleños in America would be trimmed a bit. Is this a good suggestion? Thanks. Solar-Wind (talk) 10:25, 8 May 2014 (UTC)


Colonial and Mexican Governors of Texas[edit]

Hello! I wouldn't mind doing some, just have to find the time ! DLS Texas (talk) 19:13, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

(Thanks for your contributions in the articles about Texas history! I wanted to ask you if you would want to publish some article of colonial governors of Texas (List of Colonial and Mexican Governors of Texas). I think all (or most) them should have articles in Wikipedia because they were governors of this place. So, I posted many of them because before there was almost no colonial governor of Texas who had articles on wikipedia and I am interested in this theme. I was wondering if you wanted to help me by publishing some of them. Thank you.--Isinbill (talk) 19:09, 4 July 2014 (UTC))

Disambiguation pages[edit]

If you are going to create or edit disambiguation pages, please familiarize yourself with the Manual of Style for these pages. In particular, all disambiguation pages should contain a {{Disambiguation}} template, and should not be placed in Category:Disambiguation pages manually; see the note on that category description page. When not one, but two, other editors pointed out that Brazo (disambiguation) was inconsistent with Wikipedia standards, you should have discussed the issues rather than simply undoing their edits without any comments. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 19:20, 31 August 2014 (UTC)


WikiProject Lagos[edit]

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Demographics of Nunavut and Yukon[edit]

I just noticed the two tables you added to Nunavut and Yukon. I had to remove both as there were errors. There are three indigenous groups in Canada and they are collectively known as Aboriginal peoples in Canada. Aboriginals consist of First Nations, sometimes referred to as Indian and listed by Statistics Canada as "North American Indian", the Inuit, formerly known as Eskimo, and the Métis. These three names are not interchangeable. For Nunavut you forgot to update the source from Yukon. It should have been this. In the Nunavut table you put First Nations but that is incorrect. The majority of people in Nunavut are Inuit with very small numbers of the other two groups. You also put a total number of 50,415. However, the total population of Nunavut is on 29,325. Stats Can allows for multiple response so the line listed "Aboriginal origins" may include people who say they are Inuit-British. You can't add the Aboriginal origins, the Inuit and North American Indian to get a "First Nations" total as they are already included. For the Yukon you seem to have added Aboriginal origins and First Nations, which as per the Nunavut table is incorrect. Also the total population from all the ethnic groups listed there added up to 60,445 which is larger than the total population of Yukon. CBWeather, Talk, Seal meat for supper? 20:08, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

October 2014[edit]

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Uniparental markers[edit]

Hi. Please stop suggesting that certain African American individuals are descended from specific African nations. No one knows this for a fact. It's just speculation based on uniparental markers like Y-DNA and mtDNA, which are not ethnically let alone nationally exclusive. Regards, Middayexpress (talk) 19:51, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

The DNA analysis is one of several resources used by scientists and historians (included Colleges) to learn the origins of the Afro populations of the Americas (along with old records of slaves, linguistic and cultural studies of certain groups of African descent in places like the Caribbean, etc. .). In fact, this has been particularly important in populations of African origin in northern Colombia. It was possible to establish genetic relationships of the black population from there about certain stocks of certain parts of Africa. Although this population proved to be very blended, also indicated that certain genetic differences had a black population to another. That is, some of these communities were partly descended from other ethnic people, because they had their genes. Some of their African genes (which they referred to certain ethnic groups) were more distant than others. It was clear, for example, that many Afro-descended were descendant of people of the current Namibia because they possess certain genes of some places from there, but they were very distant genes. So the question was yes really slaves were exported to Colombia from day-present Namibia or whether they were ancestors of slaves exported there. It was clear about their Namibian origins, but it was not in regards to how they came. They believe they probably were not exported from Namibia but African slaves carrying genes of people from certain places from there because their ancestors came from there. With this they tried to explain their Namibian genes.
All human peoples of the world who live for generations in a given location develop certain genes that are characteristic only of that place. For example, it was discovered that Canarian people in general, we had developed certain genes that also had the Guanches and that were found only in the Canary Islands (along with genes carried by the Guanches and Europeans, mainly Iberian). Thus, the genetic resource has become an essential element in knowing the origins of certain populations. While it is true that DNA analysis may have errors and should be studied carefully, but are reliable from official view. While, over time, as they improve the procedures and measures used to study the DNA, will be more reliable. I'm not entirely fio analiss of DNA but can bring us at least, partially, to certain origins of black populations. By the way, some people whose photos you deleted it, are people who know their origins because they were the ones who had their grandparents or great-grandparents or because this was spoken in their families for generations. Furthermore, in the Caribbean, there are many ethnic groups whose cultures remain African origin and they are aware of their origins, although they have not done DNA analysis to find out (after it is verified and confirmed by certain historical studies, with certain differences. For example, in Jamaica the idea that Jamaicans are descended mainly from African Akan people slaves of present Ghana and the Igbos of Nigeria is widespread, but historical records show that it is backwards. Both peoples were effectively the main ethnic groups to be exported there, but the Igbos dominated over the Akans). For now, I prefer to keep photos of African Americans in the articles that talk about the people of whom come supposedly their ancestors.--Isinbill (talk) 21:38, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
I realize that. However, uniparental marker tests are not able to determine the specific ethnic group which an ancestor may have belonged to since Y-DNA & mtDNA haplogroups are not ethnically exclusive [2]. Regards, Middayexpress (talk) 21:55, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
I read the reference you leave. The fact that African Americans show genes from various African locations is normal, because the slaves came from various African ports and were exported to the Americas. Eventually they and their descendants were mixed and the ethnic diversity of African Americans grew increasingly. Think, for example, in Americas, in places such as Venezuela, there were slave revolts, but these riots were formed from the sixteenth century by slaves from the same ethnic group, because there were people buying more slaves in the same ethnicity. This made the European traders changed the formula and that from that time bought slaves of different ethnicities, different cultures, so that the relationship between them was very weak and thus save the riots. Slaveholders also married their slaves on the slaves of other people, though their ethnicities were different. In the sixteenth century there were many slave revolts but most of them were riots specific ethnic groups (eg Yoruba revolt in northern Brazil in the first half of the sixteenth century). There came to actually having riots blacks together regardless of their ethnicity until the late eighteenth century, when Europeans had forced the slaves, regardless of ethnicity, to blend together (although surprising that in the case of Latin America, the most black people that was revealed in the nineteenth century were descendants of slaves while recent slaves were not revealed - as in Brazil, Cuba and Puerto Rico remained slaves exported, although illegally, after which the United Kingdom had prohibited trafficking slaves in the world). So I never thought that that African Americans had only one or two seemed to indicate origins as DNA analysis, and always supported that people ought to have ancestors from different parts of Africa. The origins indicated in the analysis of DNA would only some of its origins.
There were many slave kingdoms in Africa who sold slaves to the Europeans, hence the huge ethnic diversity in the African American population and the great mix that this had for centuries. On the other hand, one of the people mentioned in the article said that DNA samples had indicated that partially descended from slaves from Mozambique. Think that Portugal had already occupied its shores in the late fifteenth century and especially in the late sixteenth century, the date on which the merchants of the then European kingdom began to buy slaves in Mozambique (until then, they had bought slaves mainly kings and aristocracies of Ndongo kingdoms (in northern Angola) and the Kongo kingdom, and Guinea Bissau, Cape Verde and Sao Tome and Principe (archipelagos that were populated by Portuguese and slaves of the places mentioned above). Although, they also got some slaves of the Coasts of the slaves (eg Ashanti). Mozambike was one of several places in Portugal which served its slave trade in the sixteenth century. Many slaves from there were exported to Brazil and the Portuguese slave traders sold many Mozambicans to other European traders. Such slaves were mixed with the population of the places that came (although in some places they left certain ethnic groups that have survived to the present, as is the case of Makua in Cuba). They sold slaves to the Spanish, Dutch, French and English. Mainly Portugese sold slaves Mbundu and Kongos, but also from other African places. The fact that African Americans have ancestors Mozambicans is not surprising, really. But those tests are unreliable when there are African Americans who said they have ancestors in places such as the Central African Republic and Zambia, for example, who had no relations with Europe until the late nineteenth century (although they may be descended from African slaves who were descended from people those places).
In short, not much I distrust the DNA analysis, so I think people saw that they had ancestors in certain parts of Africa, possibly they had reason (although they only partially descended from them, unlike what many of them believe). Regards--Isinbill (talk) 00:00, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
Understood. The thing with uniparental markers is that they are generally not ethnically circumscribed. This means that while the chances of African American males carrying paternal haplogroups that are common among males in West/Central Africa is indeed high, the tests won't be able to identify much beyond that. That is, they won't be able to pinpoint which specific ethnic group from which particular area may have contributed that lineage. So while Chris Rock was apparently found to belong to the B2a1 paternal haplogroup, we can't tell which particular ethnic group the ancestor of his who contributed that lineage hailed from since it's the most widely dispersed haplogroup B subclade in West/Central Africa. We can hypothesize that that ancestor was probably from the Cameroon area since the haplogroup is apparently pretty common there. However, this tells us nothing about the paternal haplogroups of Rock's many other male ancestors on his mother's side. That said, have a look at this chart [3]; notice all of the other ancestors in the middle whose lineages are not counted in these uniparental tests (whether Y-DNA or mtDNA). This is what Gates et al. mean when they assert that the uniparental tests aren't particularly informative beyond general regional provenance information and for only some ancestors at that. Regards, Middayexpress (talk) 16:16, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
I don´t know if you know Spanish, but the web page about of the DNA analisys of the Afro Colombian population, if is possible, you would should read it, because that web page indicates the presence of certain genes only existing in certain African ethnic groups (and not in other ethnic groups, not even in the places where they lived) in the Afro Colombian community. The idea provided by Conclusion is interesting because much sums everything explained by researchers before, even pointing out that groups had contributed to the genetics of Afro-Colombian communities studied: http://www.academia.edu/1035303/Variaci%C3%B3n_dental_no-m%C3%A9trica_y_el_tr%C3%A1fico_de_esclavos_por_el_Atl%C3%A1ntico_la_ascendencia_biol%C3%B3gica_y_los_or%C3%ADgenes_geogr%C3%A1ficos_de_una_poblaci%C3%B3n_afro-colombiana Variación dental no métrica y el tráfico de esclavos por el atlántico: la ascendencia biológica y los orígenes geográficos de una población afro-colombiana (Nonmetric dental variation and the slave trade in the Atlantic: biological ancestry and geographical origins of Afro-Colombian population). The page, pershap, can be translate en Internet putting the name of the same page en Google seach (well, reading that page is just a recommendation). Regards.--Isinbill (talk) 18:44, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
I realize that certain genes are mainly found in only certain ethnic groups. However, the links in question aren't on such ancestry-informative markers (e.g. sickle cell alleles). They are instead on uniparental markers (Y-DNA & mtDNA), which aren't ethnically circumscribed. It's just weird seeing Chris Rock called "Cameroonian American" on the basis of one of his various Y-DNA lineages (if it were based on autosomal DNA, though, that would be another matter). Like all males, he actually has several such paternal lineages, including that of his mother's father, that of his paternal grandmother's father, etc. The genetic test Rock took only identifies his father's paternal lineage. It's a bit like suggesting that certain U.S. immigrants from northern Cameroon are "Spanish American" on the grounds that many males from that part of Cameroon carry the same R1b paternal haplogroup as many Iberians and other Western Europeans. See what I mean? Anyway, it's no big deal as far as I'm concerned. Just don't be surprised if an actual Cameroonian later balks at Rock being passed off as one of his/her compatriots. Regards, Middayexpress (talk) 19:29, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

Duda[edit]

Hola usuario Insibill, reciente mente me metí en la wikipedia hispana, y me di cuenta que la información que puse en mi pagina Italian immigration to Guatemala, algunas cosas las pusiste en tu pagina hispana Inmigración italiana en Guatemala, y no hay problema, solo que me gustaría saber donde conseguiste algunas informaciones ya que la referencia La ciudad es como tu, Cumple no encontre informacion sobre: Enrico Felice, quien conquistó la selva de Izabal, estableciendo cortes de madera y cultivos, así como Acchile Borghi, que modeló en bronce la primera estatua de Barrios en San Marcos y el león de Los Altos. Solo es una duda, gracias :) --ElreydeEspana 19:25, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

No necesitas hablarme en ingles, también soy de España :), saludos tío

Zenaida Manfugás[edit]

Will the citations for this article ever be posted?66.74.176.59 (talk) 04:56, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

Quisieras colaborar[edit]

actualmente estoy creando paginas de inmigracion por pais, y necesitaria tu ayuda, ya que necesito a alguien que entienda mi idioma, esperare tu respuesta (ELreydeEspana) 6 del 12 del 2014, 15:26 (UTC)

Oh, muchas gracias, por ahora pienso crear Inmigracion en Costa Rica, pero por la hora si quieres la hacemos manana, buenas noches (ELreydeEspana) 6 del 12 del 2014, 20:26 (UTC)
Discúlpame por molestarte, pero realmente necesito a alguien de habla española y que este acá en esta wikipedia, me gustaría que si revisaras mis paginas y me tradujeras mejor el ingles, ya que yo no tengo mucha practica, y si quieres algo a cambio, dímelo, gracias (ELreydeEspana) 19:23 15/12 (UTC)
El problema con el caso especifico del idioma es que yo tampoco soy muy bueno en inglés. Sé leer más o menos en inglés pero los artículos que publico necesitan corrección por parte de otros editores porque aun cometo muchas faltas y mis expresiones en inglés a veces no son las correctas. --Isinbill (talk) 19:15, 16 December 2014 (UTC)